Also good: Do one heroic on each alt, parked at the entrance! Pick an item you want to unlock for your account for each alt, and take them in a granular fashion!
@@locazoluki you have alts, you park them infront of the dungeon set to heroic, and once a day you log onto each alt parked infront of the dungeon do one heroic and then log on to the next alt. as most things such as transmog, pets, mounts, toys are shared account wide you dont need to get everything on a single character and considering the HUGE Amount of seals you need most likely you wont grind it out all in one session (frankly that would be impossible) basically instead of counting how many hours you need to farm something you can count how long youre willing to wait, thats why the old legion invasions were such a great way to level alts, even though legion invasions only spawned about every 20 ish hours you could do them in about half an hour and get 4-5 levels in that time, sure TECHNICALLY that means you get 5 levels every 20 hours which doesnt sound good as you can get about 1 level per hour while normal questing but you only need to SPENT half an hour leveling so in reality its 5 levels in 30 minutes, the rest is just waiting for the next invasion, and the other 19 1/2 hours you can do what ever, you can gear up your main, farm transmog, do auctions or stuff unrelated to wow cook dinner, watch a movie, go on a date etc so while the time to level up OVERALL is alot longer your actual time INVESTMENT is much lower, the way it works with seals is (simplified) this: imagine there are 5 mounts you want to buy, each costing 100 seals, one heroic dungeon gives you 5 seals while one normal dungeon only gives you 1 seal per dungeon, lets say the dungeon takes 1-6 minutes to complete if you farm it out with just normal dungeons on one character thats 500 dungeons with 10 dungeons per hour (which is the fastest possible speed) you will spent just over 2 days aka 50 hours of doing dungeons if you have 5 alts and only do on heroic a day it will take you 20 days to get all mounts... but in reality you only spent 100-600 MINUTES aka 1 1/2 - 10 hours PLAYING the game compared to the 50 hours of playing the game doing it with normal dungeons so
That's pretty awesome to know that you can get some on normal, I never realized that you could get them on that difficulty. I thought it was only heroic. Thanks for the tip, glad this showed up in my feed!🥰
Great tips! When I did this grind, I broke it up over a few different alts so I could get all of the mounts faster. I assigned each alt 2-3 mounts to purchase and it significantly cut down on the number of weeks I had to grind dailies/dungeons. I managed to get all of the mounts (even the paladin specific ones) during the Shadowlands Pre-Patch at the end of BfA
Recently came back and enjoy your content. One thing to mention about anything earlier than Cataclysm is that Transmog wasn't introduced until Cata SO..many people don't have the appearances from these old dungeons. One more reason to run through them on each armor type, so pick one alt of each armor type, grind out one item and repeat
I have been farming this normally, by using the mount, and I hated it. The mechanics are horrible and it takes so much time... Learning you can dismount and fight them has been life saving. You have saved possibly hours of my time THANK YOU.
yooooo(......)oooo I wanted the squire for remote bank access somethin' fierce but stopped immediately after starting the seal grind cos...yeah, thats one big mountain (of seals) to climb. But this is huge, i had no idea. Thank you!
Now that the champion's seals are transferable between toons on your account in TWW, you can farm the seals on alts and compile them on a main that has the most progress with the tournament. I have too many alts. I farmed up over 100 in a day, but that was ALL day. If you have 10 alts, pop the heroic dungeon on each one, that'll net you 30 seals per day easy.
Once I decided to grind this I dug out my old alts on an old server and started the dailies grind on 5 old characters. I do the dailies and one heroic. *Another benefit is you can get and do the quests, then return to chromie in your capital, change your timeline to northrend, and get 1/4 to 1/3 of a level every day up until 48*. It's 2 hours a day minimum for what is still weeks, but at least it's not going to take over a year.
thank you so much! this was so helpful :D ESPECIALLY that i don't have to do it on the back of a freaking horse, omg i haaaaaaate jousting xD [just edited to say that that they will try to stun-lock you if you're not mounted, so just be ready for that and kite them :)]
just a minor tip. U dont start with those champuins seals, u need to earn the right to earn those. Aaaarch the argent tournament is just one complicated mess xD
Than you so much for this! I was struggling with the idea that I could only do 4 seals a day. I'm new to the game and Pet battles/collecting is my end game...
Hi! Do you know by any chance, why I don't have any dailies in that zone? I've tried to do few quests to probably unlock them but nothing, there is litteraly 0 dailies...
It's been so long since I checked out the Argent Tournament. I need to double-check and see what I'm missing from there. I have most of the mounts, but not the paladin ones. I don't know about the pets, though. This is a great tip to catch up on that stuff!
Have you been working on Island Expeditions as well? For some reason that came to mind when thinking about TotC -- I've been working on the Champion's Seals for years. Literally. I don't think about it much, so this was a great reminder!
@@KrakenLatte Nice! I've stuck my toe in with my SPriest but haven't done much. What's weird to me is that she was my main for over a decade, but I would always play her to group with my husband's pally. Well, husband lost interest pretty quick in Shadowlands, so I parked her and started playing on my Enhancement shaman, who is my main/alt now. I just don't do much for Island Expeditions with my shaman because most of my achievements are on my spriest. Ah, dilemmas -- because I still don't consider my shammy my main.
Blizz could really improve old grinds like this by either giving a few more seals, or just reducing the cost. These mounts aren't impressive to look at, and they're well over a decade old. I went through a few months of grinding for some of the alliance race specific mounts and kept going for the other mounts you can buy and the grind was just painfully boring. How are new mount collectors supposed to even get close to the 150, 200, 250 mount achievements if they have to run against a wall like this for months on end. And even with a well prepared and patient as all hell player like yourself taking such a long time, this would just be an instant pass for most players. I can understand keeping certain old content mounts as hard to get through achievements or low drop rates, but stuff like this is a clear indication that they just want you to be logged in every single day. And God forbid if you miss a day or a week from this grind, cause then you feel like crap and see the finish line that much farther away. This kind of content isn't rewarding, it's just a treadmill that beats you down.
Two small notes, you can tear up the Faction reputations using the Trial. I seem to remember that you get a ton of rep doing the daily using whichever faction flag you use and then at each rep. stage with the Trial. That is a great way to work on heritage sets on the sly. The last thing would be the agrent squire with his mount. 150 seals for a bank or vendor anywhere you can mount.
I still use the squire occasionally when I can’t mount and need too empty my bags. (I know there are other options, but mail box, vendor or bank is just my go too). Do you get a bug with the squire, where he keeps being resummoned on any loading screen after being dismissed until you use a different pet, then dismiss that? It happens every time (I’ve had him since Wrath), and him tooting at being resummoned is annoying (and he just follows after 2 mins of vendor or post, so is not much use unless you want a standard bearer). Would be interested if anyone else has the same thing, I’ve had multiple pc’s reinstalls etc. Is it just my squire?
There are the daily quests in the neutral tent too, which has more things to buy. Without doing dungeons iirc it was possible to get 26/day, but it’s been about a decade since I maxed this out on one faction. So maybe I don’t remember exactly… it’s nice to see the dungeon is soloable now though!
this is a great video but imo instead of doing normal, it's a lot more time efficient to just do the dailies on alts (corresponding race to the items you're trying to get). also having a buddy to do the mount dailys is huge as they can one shot the enemy for you, and no tag is needed. wormhole from wotlk is very nice too as the icecrown teleport takes you right above the western tent, i usually save this for otw back to turn everything in. The alts that i currently have doing them atm, are parked directly in front of the neutral site dailies, and my hearths take me back to the faction tent.
I have two toons farming the tokens. Forgot about the dungeon token drops. If I do the quests and dungeons one a day on both toons I can have 100 seals in 5-6 days
no... no.... dont tell me I forgot about the dungeon... I literally just finished grinding up enough to buy the hippogryph mount... At least I now will remember to do this for the next one...
Unless they've changed it, no it doesn't work for the outdoor dailies. You can fight someone else's opponent while not mounted but not your own. Dismounting during your own challenge will end the encounter. Back when this was current content there would be people that would go around and ground fight other people's opponents. I would always purposely dismount when they tried it with mine because even though it would make the fights quicker, it would also sometimes glitch them and make them not count for the quest and then you'd have to do another one to make up for it. I liked the jousting portion and got really good at it so the outside "help" was more of an annoyance to me.
Sooooooo glad i did it all back in the day, was even worse back then btw as it was one of the few places to get heirlooms to hehe... so you needed to buy them for new alts you fancied making and leveling.. happy days
I was hoping for something faster. I need 91 seals for 1 paladin mount (as i already farmed everything else when it was current). which means at 10 an hour, i'll be doing this dungeon for the next 9 hours.... ugh. That's rough. I may just make it a habit to do these dallies plus the dungeons every day. That would be better time spent.
I wonder, is it not quicker to run several alts through the dailies until each of them can buy one item, rather than grinding out all the items/seals on a single alt?
pls help ! for some reason i cant buy nothing for any of the vendors... i can only "chat" with them ... why is that ? any prequest line? ( didnt play in woltk)
I dont think I played during Wrath but tried to farm Champion's Seals today. Im level 60 with current gear but i didnt get any Champion's Seals for clearing the raid... Is there a prereq or did they take the Champion's Seals out of the game?
The seals won't come from the raid, but they do come from the dungeon! If you did the dungeon too and got nothing, it is possible you need to complete the Valiant quests first, but I doubt that considering you can farm this each day while doing them (I did).
I seem to remember that you got some more quests opened up as you completed the area, there are definitely at least 10, I’d guess you might be missing a low level quest (somewhere in Northrend 🤷♂️) and that’ll open up the rest. Try the small island north of the tournament as well, it’s been a long time since I unlocked them, but I passed the other day and they were around 10 speed over 2 tents (one is just outside, but in the main). I’ll get the names for you of them, hopefully you can track back with wowhead. I’m stuck at home with a broken ankle anyway. No excuse not to do that 50-60 grind on a few alts now I suppose.
I did this back when it was still new content. I got to the point where I unlocked everything and was earning the champion seals. Then I paid for a faction/server switch and it reset my progress back to the beginning, basically I had to do everything all over again. Kept the seals, but they were useless cause you had to unlock those dailies before the vendors could unlock. Once I realized this, I gave up completely and never went back there again (other than the SL prepatch stuff)
On my main bnet account I am done, but this is my alt bnet account so I can make videos on stuff like this. I've done *almost* everything on my main bnet account, soooo that makes it really hard to do vids on things I've already done years ago. >n
HAH. i noticed something. i can do EVERYTHING in this tournament in under 1 month. you need to split the factions to your alts. i think i can do all in like 25 days.
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Also good:
Do one heroic on each alt, parked at the entrance! Pick an item you want to unlock for your account for each alt, and take them in a granular fashion!
How do you do this?
@@locazoluki you have alts, you park them infront of the dungeon set to heroic, and once a day you log onto each alt parked infront of the dungeon do one heroic and then log on to the next alt. as most things such as transmog, pets, mounts, toys are shared account wide you dont need to get everything on a single character and considering the HUGE Amount of seals you need most likely you wont grind it out all in one session (frankly that would be impossible)
basically instead of counting how many hours you need to farm something you can count how long youre willing to wait, thats why the old legion invasions were such a great way to level alts, even though legion invasions only spawned about every 20 ish hours you could do them in about half an hour and get 4-5 levels in that time, sure TECHNICALLY that means you get 5 levels every 20 hours which doesnt sound good as you can get about 1 level per hour while normal questing but you only need to SPENT half an hour leveling so in reality its 5 levels in 30 minutes, the rest is just waiting for the next invasion, and the other 19 1/2 hours you can do what ever, you can gear up your main, farm transmog, do auctions or stuff unrelated to wow cook dinner, watch a movie, go on a date etc so while the time to level up OVERALL is alot longer your actual time INVESTMENT is much lower, the way it works with seals is (simplified) this:
imagine there are 5 mounts you want to buy, each costing 100 seals, one heroic dungeon gives you 5 seals while one normal dungeon only gives you 1 seal per dungeon, lets say the dungeon takes 1-6 minutes to complete
if you farm it out with just normal dungeons on one character thats 500 dungeons with 10 dungeons per hour (which is the fastest possible speed) you will spent just over 2 days aka 50 hours of doing dungeons
if you have 5 alts and only do on heroic a day it will take you 20 days to get all mounts... but in reality you only spent 100-600 MINUTES aka 1 1/2 - 10 hours PLAYING the game compared to the 50 hours of playing the game doing it with normal dungeons so
That's pretty awesome to know that you can get some on normal, I never realized that you could get them on that difficulty. I thought it was only heroic. Thanks for the tip, glad this showed up in my feed!🥰
You just reminded me that I need to finish that grind. I have a couple mounts left to grind out. Thank you.
Great tips! When I did this grind, I broke it up over a few different alts so I could get all of the mounts faster. I assigned each alt 2-3 mounts to purchase and it significantly cut down on the number of weeks I had to grind dailies/dungeons. I managed to get all of the mounts (even the paladin specific ones) during the Shadowlands Pre-Patch at the end of BfA
I remember that grind, the amount of mounts was insane, I really do miss wotlk, probably my best time in wow.
Recently came back and enjoy your content. One thing to mention about anything earlier than Cataclysm is that Transmog wasn't introduced until Cata SO..many people don't have the appearances from these old dungeons. One more reason to run through them on each armor type, so pick one alt of each armor type, grind out one item and repeat
I have been farming this normally, by using the mount, and I hated it. The mechanics are horrible and it takes so much time... Learning you can dismount and fight them has been life saving. You have saved possibly hours of my time THANK YOU.
yooooo(......)oooo
I wanted the squire for remote bank access somethin' fierce but stopped immediately after starting the seal grind cos...yeah, thats one big mountain (of seals) to climb.
But this is huge, i had no idea. Thank you!
i would like to add ik this is 2 years ago but with now warbands you can send them across characters takes way less time now :D
This is one of the many things on my to-do list, so this is really REALLY helpful! Thank you!!!
Now that the champion's seals are transferable between toons on your account in TWW, you can farm the seals on alts and compile them on a main that has the most progress with the tournament. I have too many alts. I farmed up over 100 in a day, but that was ALL day. If you have 10 alts, pop the heroic dungeon on each one, that'll net you 30 seals per day easy.
oh thank god I just did the math on how many seals I need & was ready to end it all
Just checked my OG character from back in Wrath and I have 43 seals, it's a start lol
Thanks for the info. Also the animated toons are just ADORABLE!! ^.^
Once I decided to grind this I dug out my old alts on an old server and started the dailies grind on 5 old characters. I do the dailies and one heroic.
*Another benefit is you can get and do the quests, then return to chromie in your capital, change your timeline to northrend, and get 1/4 to 1/3 of a level every day up until 48*. It's 2 hours a day minimum for what is still weeks, but at least it's not going to take over a year.
A plus to this is you can receive all the appearances. :) So I imagine you could get all the appearances by 100 seals for each alt.
I actually like easy rinse and repeat stuff a lot. Thanks for this! 💕
thank you so much! this was so helpful :D ESPECIALLY that i don't have to do it on the back of a freaking horse, omg i haaaaaaate jousting xD
[just edited to say that that they will try to stun-lock you if you're not mounted, so just be ready for that and kite them :)]
Likewise, I didn’t know. I’m an expert jouster now though, but arrrrrgh!
Im actually slowely farming trough the argent tournament. Thnx for the tips
just a minor tip. U dont start with those champuins seals, u need to earn the right to earn those. Aaaarch the argent tournament is just one complicated mess xD
*groans in Argent Crusade dailies* I thought I escaped that frigid hellhole. :D
Most helpful i will try this
Than you so much for this! I was struggling with the idea that I could only do 4 seals a day. I'm new to the game and Pet battles/collecting is my end game...
Hi!
Do you know by any chance, why I don't have any dailies in that zone? I've tried to do few quests to probably unlock them but nothing, there is litteraly 0 dailies...
Thanks for the guide. Want to farm that one mount for the nightelfs for 100 of these things.
It's been so long since I checked out the Argent Tournament. I need to double-check and see what I'm missing from there. I have most of the mounts, but not the paladin ones. I don't know about the pets, though. This is a great tip to catch up on that stuff!
The squire is handy. Vendor, post and bank access (I know there are other options), but I’ve used him since wrath!
this is an amazing video but i’m also obsessed with the add ons you have, my computer could never
Have you been working on Island Expeditions as well? For some reason that came to mind when thinking about TotC -- I've been working on the Champion's Seals for years. Literally. I don't think about it much, so this was a great reminder!
I have been doing Island Expeditions! They're super easy to do solo now. :D
@@KrakenLatte Nice! I've stuck my toe in with my SPriest but haven't done much. What's weird to me is that she was my main for over a decade, but I would always play her to group with my husband's pally. Well, husband lost interest pretty quick in Shadowlands, so I parked her and started playing on my Enhancement shaman, who is my main/alt now. I just don't do much for Island Expeditions with my shaman because most of my achievements are on my spriest. Ah, dilemmas -- because I still don't consider my shammy my main.
your ui is wild but im here for it. LEET length video too. +rep
Thank you very much.
Blizz could really improve old grinds like this by either giving a few more seals, or just reducing the cost. These mounts aren't impressive to look at, and they're well over a decade old. I went through a few months of grinding for some of the alliance race specific mounts and kept going for the other mounts you can buy and the grind was just painfully boring. How are new mount collectors supposed to even get close to the 150, 200, 250 mount achievements if they have to run against a wall like this for months on end. And even with a well prepared and patient as all hell player like yourself taking such a long time, this would just be an instant pass for most players. I can understand keeping certain old content mounts as hard to get through achievements or low drop rates, but stuff like this is a clear indication that they just want you to be logged in every single day. And God forbid if you miss a day or a week from this grind, cause then you feel like crap and see the finish line that much farther away. This kind of content isn't rewarding, it's just a treadmill that beats you down.
Two small notes, you can tear up the Faction reputations using the Trial. I seem to remember that you get a ton of rep doing the daily using whichever faction flag you use and then at each rep. stage with the Trial. That is a great way to work on heritage sets on the sly. The last thing would be the agrent squire with his mount. 150 seals for a bank or vendor anywhere you can mount.
I still use the squire occasionally when I can’t mount and need too empty my bags. (I know there are other options, but mail box, vendor or bank is just my go too).
Do you get a bug with the squire, where he keeps being resummoned on any loading screen after being dismissed until you use a different pet, then dismiss that? It happens every time (I’ve had him since Wrath), and him tooting at being resummoned is annoying (and he just follows after 2 mins of vendor or post, so is not much use unless you want a standard bearer). Would be interested if anyone else has the same thing, I’ve had multiple pc’s reinstalls etc. Is it just my squire?
There are the daily quests in the neutral tent too, which has more things to buy. Without doing dungeons iirc it was possible to get 26/day, but it’s been about a decade since I maxed this out on one faction. So maybe I don’t remember exactly… it’s nice to see the dungeon is soloable now though!
this is a great video but imo instead of doing normal, it's a lot more time efficient to just do the dailies on alts (corresponding race to the items you're trying to get). also having a buddy to do the mount dailys is huge as they can one shot the enemy for you, and no tag is needed. wormhole from wotlk is very nice too as the icecrown teleport takes you right above the western tent, i usually save this for otw back to turn everything in. The alts that i currently have doing them atm, are parked directly in front of the neutral site dailies, and my hearths take me back to the faction tent.
just spend 2 months on getting my argent warhorse and hippogryph never knew about normal dropping champion seals rip
Awesome! Thanks 😊 love your vids!
I am so glad I got all the rewards with the seals a long time ago this was definitely a grind to do and took forever
I learned the hard way that progress at the Argent Tournament does not transer when you faction change.
I have two toons farming the tokens. Forgot about the dungeon token drops. If I do the quests and dungeons one a day on both toons I can have 100 seals in 5-6 days
All I need is the silver covenant tabard for my Void…I mean High elf Warrior :)
You can now do the heroic once a day on ALL your alts and transfer the seals to your main and buy all the things you want to collect ^^
Now you can transfer seals between alts, so you can farm it out on like 10 alts and transfer to one for whatever you wish
This was so useful thank you so much! Time to grinddd : ]
no... no.... dont tell me I forgot about the dungeon... I literally just finished grinding up enough to buy the hippogryph mount... At least I now will remember to do this for the next one...
I did th4e farm of all the mounts TWICE back in the day.... before everything became account bound D: :P
So helpful! Thanks for posting this! =)
can you tell me what RP or UI mod you have to make dialogue options like that? I really like it
Immersion is the addon changing the quest/option dialogue and such :D
My Swift Burgundy Wolf is still one of my faves. It was the first mount I really earned back in lich king and none of my friends had it.
Thank you for this tip.
I love the Argent Tournament but only have 1 of the mounts and really need to set up some of my alts there to finish this out.
This really helps a lot! 10 per hour ~ish! I'll take it!
after 5 months of grinding, does she have enough to by all the mounts?!
Thank you kindly dear!
What is the addon that makes your windows look transparent? By the way, love your videos.
Wait you can dismount for Trial of the Champion?? I've been doing it for weeks without dismounting...
Does it also work for the jousting dailies?
Unless they've changed it, no it doesn't work for the outdoor dailies. You can fight someone else's opponent while not mounted but not your own. Dismounting during your own challenge will end the encounter. Back when this was current content there would be people that would go around and ground fight other people's opponents. I would always purposely dismount when they tried it with mine because even though it would make the fights quicker, it would also sometimes glitch them and make them not count for the quest and then you'd have to do another one to make up for it. I liked the jousting portion and got really good at it so the outside "help" was more of an annoyance to me.
any idea why only the Blood Elf vendor shows me their wares? I'm a blood elf, but I want to buy the undead horses. I'm exalted with Undercity.
thanks for the info
Sooooooo glad i did it all back in the day, was even worse back then btw as it was one of the few places to get heirlooms to hehe... so you needed to buy them for new alts you fancied making and leveling.. happy days
ty vm
I was hoping for something faster. I need 91 seals for 1 paladin mount (as i already farmed everything else when it was current). which means at 10 an hour, i'll be doing this dungeon for the next 9 hours.... ugh. That's rough. I may just make it a habit to do these dallies plus the dungeons every day. That would be better time spent.
So helpful! Thank you
I wonder, is it not quicker to run several alts through the dailies until each of them can buy one item, rather than grinding out all the items/seals on a single alt?
Do you get any seals from the raid(s) itself?
Not that I've seen, unfortunately.
pls help !
for some reason i cant buy nothing for any of the vendors... i can only "chat" with them ... why is that ? any prequest line? ( didnt play in woltk)
Can i do this as Horde player? And can i transfer to another character ?
I dont think I played during Wrath but tried to farm Champion's Seals today. Im level 60 with current gear but i didnt get any Champion's Seals for clearing the raid... Is there a prereq or did they take the Champion's Seals out of the game?
The seals won't come from the raid, but they do come from the dungeon! If you did the dungeon too and got nothing, it is possible you need to complete the Valiant quests first, but I doubt that considering you can farm this each day while doing them (I did).
Coffe field content is awsome :D
Thanks!
I am exalted with all Alliance Vanguard reps and can only find 3 quests/dailies to do, did I miss something?
I seem to remember that you got some more quests opened up as you completed the area, there are definitely at least 10, I’d guess you might be missing a low level quest (somewhere in Northrend 🤷♂️) and that’ll open up the rest. Try the small island north of the tournament as well, it’s been a long time since I unlocked them, but I passed the other day and they were around 10 speed over 2 tents (one is just outside, but in the main).
I’ll get the names for you of them, hopefully you can track back with wowhead. I’m stuck at home with a broken ankle anyway. No excuse not to do that 50-60 grind on a few alts now I suppose.
Are champion seals warband now?
Yep! :D
Heroic only gives (me) 1 seal per run, same a Normal :/
I did this back when it was still new content. I got to the point where I unlocked everything and was earning the champion seals. Then I paid for a faction/server switch and it reset my progress back to the beginning, basically I had to do everything all over again. Kept the seals, but they were useless cause you had to unlock those dailies before the vendors could unlock. Once I realized this, I gave up completely and never went back there again (other than the SL prepatch stuff)
Are you done collecting all of them?
On my main bnet account I am done, but this is my alt bnet account so I can make videos on stuff like this. I've done *almost* everything on my main bnet account, soooo that makes it really hard to do vids on things I've already done years ago. >n
I did the whole thing daily for months to get everything when it was current content. LOL
what ui addon is that?
do u get any from the raid ?
No.
what other way is there to get them?
From the dailies ^^
"Only champions of Stormwind may purchase what I have to offer"
I think I figured it out.. More grinding.. :|
I couldn't do a better video if I was payed to
HAH. i noticed something. i can do EVERYTHING in this tournament in under 1 month. you need to split the factions to your alts. i think i can do all in like 25 days.
look, I'm most of the way through the insane title (just the faire left to do) this is nothing
13 minutes video, u could have made it 3 min and be to the point.