Missing Joshua Maddux found 7 years later in the Chimney of an abandoned Cabin | Accidental?
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PLEASE, when someone asks you why you're covering a story, still cover the story. There will always be someone who hasn't heard of the story. Like me, I've never heard of Joshua's story until I watched your video. So thank you!! Keep covering stories!! 🖤
Right?! This was new to me. I actually heard a similar case to this. So sad.
this. and even if they have heard ok cool then they dont have to watch.
There's another case in Ohio near where I live in Sandusky Ohio. boy got in a vacant house and got stuck in the chimney.
I didn’t know either until this video Thankyou for covering this
I also had never heard of this story and have been listening to true crime for years
Aw he had such a lovely smile
I remember this case and it has haunted me for so many years. What a horrific way to go and it just doesn’t make sense I really think they need to just reopen this case and have another look. Joshua deserved more!
He may have been suffering from hypothermia and was removing clothes. Perhaps he was intoxicated…..if 2 people tried to get rid of him dead or alive perhaps his head went in first as planned but somehow the knees dropped at the same time and he fell in a lodger position. For me that is the only explanation. Someone moved the bar in front of the chimney to alleviate chances of anyone finding him. The clothes were possibly forgotten and left behind.
Thanks for covering this. I think I heard a little about it before but not much. Very sad situation.😢
What if it was some prank gone wrong. Teenagers are dumb, what if he was there with some 'friends' and they thought "wouldn't it be hilarious to shove Josh in the chimney." He got stuck, maybe died of positional asphyxia and then they panicked and shoved the breakfast bar up against the fire place so no one would find him.
This is a theory I haven't really heard and to me it seems pretty plausible.
This case shoulds like Harley Dilly. 😮 crazy , so sad
It’s to close for me to throwing someone down a well!!!!! Creative anonymous Disposal for sure. Nobody goes down a chimney like.
This case used to keep me UP at night. I really hope they solve it soon!
Was the day he went for a walk a day before his birthday?
That was definitely fault play.
It’s very possible this was a prank gone terribly wrong. But in any case I believe there are more than one person who knows exactly what happened.
Oh hold up!!! Spoke too soon. The dude admitted he put him in a hole???
If you are interested you could look up the case of Harley Dilly. The same thing happened to him.
10 to life has an elaborate episode on his story.
@@freestylestuntkayak this is the exact case I was thinking of whilst watching !
I agree, it was a prank
@@freestylestuntkayak
That case is really upsetting to me because the kid was evidently trying to sneak into a vacant house to get away from his abusive homelife for a few hours, and it led to a horrible demise he didn’t deserve. I feel so bad for that kid.
your hair is gorgeous!
I second this! I want to know what she used to achieve these curls she is beautiful
Her hair is amazing!!
Incredible! Dang
@@reneegbI don't know particularly, but she did an Instagram maybe earlier this year and she used a lot of Carol's Daughter products.
Ok! I was glad I wasn’t the only one admiring it!
With Josh's body being found naked, it gives me the vibes this could have been a prank / dare / hazing of some kind. When I was a teenager I remember hearing about the kinds of dares where someone has to humiliate themselves by taking clothes off and doing other stupid things. Maybe this started out as something like that, and it just went wrong or out of hand intentionally or unintentionally.
That's a good theory.
people usually know about that when they're gonna happen so I doubt that. if it was a prank or whatever gone wrong you'd think someone would tell authorities or even his family what happened. those don't usually happen one on one more like in a group.
@@felicityjohnston9276If this was a bunch of scared young teens who were possibly drinking underage or under the influence of some other substance when it happened and not wanting to be blamed/in trouble for their behaviours, it's amazing what peer pressure can convince people to keep quiet.
There's a young man in my city who vanished one night after a bar excursion. It's widely believed that people know something but those people aren't coming forward because of other illegal activities that are connected.
If it was a dare someone will have known about him in there 🤷♀️
Not if he was dropped head first by someone, either trying to drop him, or trying to scare him and slipping. They got scared of being acused of murder, and kept quiet. Or even kept quiet at the time and died later, eg substance abuse in uni.
The fact that the owner of the cabin had more interest in finding out what happened to Josh, just shows how inept and unempathetic the coroner and the police were! For goodness sakes this poor family already lost one son way to soon, they could have considered their feelings and (as Danelle said), at least labeled his death undetermined across the board. BTW, I absolutely love your videos and your hair looks great!❤❤🎉😢❤
Whats fishy is that his parents took 5 days to report him missing..
So we're supposed to believe a healthy 18 year old with a suspicious friend stripped and climbed into a chimney willingly with his willy hanging out. Got into a position that was recognized to require two people and the chimney cover just happens to be blocked. If that doesnt scream potential foul play what will?!
Here here
I feel so heartbroken for the family losing 2 sons 😢
Side note: your hair is beautiful 😍
So, the police/coroner expect us to just believe a smart, bright 18 year old wanted to get into the cabin and decided that swan diving down the chimney was the logical answer? Also, if that was true, I guess he pushed all of the furniture in front of the cimney to block himself in as well. Also, all they had at that point was basically skeletal remains. They have no way to determine cause of death. It could be strangulation, drowning, etc. But they decided the most logical answer was a swan dive down the chimney?! That makes me furious. Also, people knew there was a horrible odor in the cabin for a long time. A squirrel, raccoon, mouse, etc will only smell for a very short time. So why wouldn't anyone investigate the prolonged horrible odor, especially knowing Josh was missing from just down the street?
Super questions! 😢
Excellent points!👍🏻
I agree with you!
If you are interested you could look up the case of Harley Dilly. The same thing happened to him.
10 to life has an elaborate episode on his story.
If you are interested you could look up the case of Harley Dilly. The same thing happened to him.
10 to life has an elaborate episode on his story.
@@sarag.7156 Except... there was an iron grate across the top of the chimney - embedded in the mortar layer. (Designed and built that way to keep small animals out.) The owner of the cabin stated so and the demolition crew noted it as well. Josh couldn't have entered the chimney from the top... nor could he have escaped that way.
This case has always stuck with me, it makes absolutely no sense. I can't begin to imagine how Josh's family feels. Its heartbreaking, they lost 2 sons unexpectedly 💔
If you are interested you could look up the case of Harley Dilly. The same thing happened to him.
10 to life has an elaborate episode on his story.
@@freestylestuntkayak thank you. I'm doing that now. Annie is awesome as well.
@@freestylestuntkayak thanx. I will look into it.
Hmm 🤔 God ways lose two sons strong angels he needed 😢😢😡
@freestylestuntkayak holy crap that case was even more bizarre, I can't stop thinking about it...
When it comes to rigor mortis, it doesn't set in straight after death, and will also dissipate after time. Either way, someone else blocked up that chimney, he didn't block it off after himself.
Poor Josh! I can't imagine his fear during this ordeal regardless of how it happened. My heart goes out to his family, as well.
My thoughts exactly. So heartbreaking.
I really love the way you approach these cases. Your storytelling skills are incredible, everything is clear and engaging, and I can tell you're always full of love for these people. After hearing you discuss the details I feel like I personally knew the victim and that means so much, these are real people with not only hopes and dreams but everyday problems too. I could probably hear you talk about anything.Thank you for all you do!
You look different all of a sudden.
It wasn't an accident. He was essentially locked in the chimney. His clothes were on the couch, folded neatly, and there was furniture moved in front of the fireplace 'door' He literally could not have gotten there on his own.
100%
I think it's the lighting 🤔. On topic, seems like Josh was redrum and coroner is taking the lazy way out 😒💯💯💯🧔🏾♂️
@@jackiechun5817 lazy, or cover up?
It's a wig and lighting, I think. She looks fabulous though ❤
@pelliemcginnis9442 a wig? she's not wearing a wig lmao.
I always thought that Josh’s death was not an accident but in fact a murder. It’s very bizarre how his bottom clothes were taken off and neatly folded next to the fireplace. I think it’s possible that he was murdered and then his death was made to look like he was sexually assaulted. To hide the evidence and what really happened to Josh, he was placed into the chimney. This is a case that I don’t think will ever be solved due to the corrupt police force back when this case was being investigated. I think the person who was responsible for killing Josh is Andy. He could’ve witnessed something he wasn’t supposed to so he had to be killed, but in a really weird way.
People suffering from hypothermia discard their clothes, the don't fold them up lol. I wonder if he was with some people and was dared to go up the chimney, he couldn't fit well so they convinced him to strip, then he got stuck in the chimney and people freaked
I researched this case non stop about a year after it happened, found out about it by good old LordanArts. Sad it will likely never be solved .. so creepy and tragic
Me scrolling down comments to see if anyone knows anything. Me reads "your hair looks amazing" many times LOL
I think he was there with friends and they were playing truth or dare and it went wrong and the rest of them freaked out and left
Came here to say this
Rigor mortis of the body and limbs doesn’t even begin until two hours post mortem. So, what if he was killed by someone(s) at the cabin with him that night who then stuffed his body in the chimney to hide it. Seems more plausible to me than him being alive in that position for some reason.
I'd say the mate had something to do with Joshua's demise, they were hanging around all the time and then Joshua goes missing and the mate leaves the city without opening a missing persons case for he's so-called mate. Very suspect he needs to be looked at ASAP and the Police need to do their job and stop being lazy. Very sad and maybe he was hallucinating.
If you are suffering from hypothermia strangely you can feel the urge to remove your clothing.
It is a rather strange case, perhaps there was friends involved drinking with friends a drunken dare to climb up the chimney?? He got stuck they couldn't help him panicked and ran.
That being said, I suspect foul play.
It's devasting for his family but I'm glad they have him back and have some degree of closure and lay him to rest. I'm very sorry for their loss. R.I.P
There's a term called "terminal burrowing" aka "hide-and-die" syndrome that can occur in lethal hypothermia. Victims are also found without most or all of their clothing on. That gives this an interesting perspective for me!
Yes but why would the furniture be blocking the chimney? Unless like you say maybe he thought it would keep out the cold and he could push it away later and unfortunately sliding down the chimney the wrong way? But is that really logical?
@kieramcgregor the truth of the matter is that there is no real logic when it comes to things like terminal burrowing or paradoxical undressing.
I'm not sold on this 100%, but I do also think it's worth considering that he may have been unprepared for the weather, started to become hypothermic and confused, took shelter, and then experienced both paradoxical undressing and then terminal burrowing. Maybe in him trying to "hide," it led to an accident which caused his death, and not the hypothermia specifically. Either way, the undressing is almost always a component in these cases, and it's worth mentioning that the people who end up dying from this are often mistaken for being victims of a crime because of the odd positions they are found in and the state of undress. They do it because it's the bodies last ditch effort at seeking shelter and getting warm, but it is almost always immediately followed by unconsciousness and death.
So, I'm sorta thinking that maybe he figured he knew the area well enough. He had done this before, he'd be fine, and his time out there was sacred to him... But he just failed to be aware of how the elements could sneak up on him until it was already too late. Maybe he had been too far out to start with, and it was just too late by the time he was close enough... Idk, but it lines up with the weather at the time. I know others find it weird that his clothes were folded, but I feel like it also could have been his brain attempting to respond out of some type of muscle memory in relation to the clothes coming off. And again, victims who exhibited the act of terminal burrowing due to fatal hypothermia are usually found weird spots... under beds, behind wardrobes, etc. with other furniture/objects being moved around in the space surrounding them. Another reason why sometimes these scenes look suspicious. I'm pretty sure it's occurred in people's very own homes. And though this could definitely be a different story, I couldn't help but think of those similarities here. At the end of the day it's just a very sad and tragic case all around.
@@ghxst-id 100% my thoughts.
But how would he put himself upside down? If he frantically took off his clothes why would they be folded neatly
@@Junituneshis body was there a long time. The clothes could have dropped and someone found them and folded them without checking the chimney because why would they?
I've never heard of this case. I hope the idea that other creators have covered a case isn't stopping Danelle from researching and sharing cases. I love Danielle's perspective and thoughtful coverage. If I could have a video every day I would take it!
My personal opinion is it was a dare that went wrong. Someone dared him to climb out of the chimney and he couldn't do it.
I am loving your new hair!! And thank you for what you bring to the true crime world!
@beautybycloverbelle7162 and thank you for being beautiful 👀💯💯💯💪🏾🧔🏾♂️
This case has always been so confusing to me!! It's so sad :( Thanks Danelle for making this video!
How devastating for his family. Losing two sons. My heart goes out to them
Danelle number one reason why you and Kendall Rae are my top 2 crime RUclips creators is because of the way you speak and get to the point. I love your style of videos so please don’t stop covering because others have covered stories. I won’t watch them cuz they make me fall asleep .
Elenor neale is also very good easy to understand and watch
My top 2 as well!
A family who lost one son to suicide and the other to accidental death is living my idea of hell. So sad.
I’ve always wondered if he had been meeting a lover in the cabin. And because the coroner was so insistent on keeping to this ridiculous narrative I wondered if he (coroner) had any children that knew Josh.
Did Josh have a phone they could have checked? His friends?
For saying the was no evidence of foul play. You would think where and how he was found would be enough. So sorry for his family that they may never get answers. If he was killed by others, I hope this haunts them day and night. Thanks for covering this Danelle.
Great coverage on this case! My theory - he ran into or met with some unknown folks in the cabin. They played a prank or intentionally met to do so - had him undress & locked him into the chimney. I feel like he couldn’t get out & tried to crawl out but got stuck.
This is weird. I was in boarding school with his sister in the 90s. When he was found i shared an article on FB not knowing, just that he looked really familiar. They looked identical. One of the other girls that was in the program with us both told me that was her brother.
I believe he he was walking n exploring when he heard some animal in distress in the chimney. He went into the cabin n it was out of reach. It was a really tight squeeze so he took his clothes off because it would help even w an inch of more room. He placed the breakfast bar there to help reach the animal because he wasn’t tall enough. When trying to get out he got stuck n died. He seemed kind because there are no stories to say otherwise plus after a close death like a brother…. All life takes on a different view! The folded clothes is why I believe he was alone. I hope n pray his family is ok now!!!
This reminds me of Kendrick Johnson..just like there is no way he went in head first to the tightly rolled gym mat there I no way Josh squeezed into that chimney like that smh rip
I'm not sure what your thoughts are on Missing 411 but this case seems to fit a few case points that are usually true for most cases.
I'd be curious to know if David Paulides has looked into this case.
A few case points that are usually consistent for Missing 411 cases & Josh's case:
•National Park (Pike's Peak)
•New Moon on 3/8/08. Over 90% of cases happen during new &/or full moon phases.
•lg bodies of water (Crystal Lake, Prospect Lake, to name a few).
•granite/boulders (Pike's peak has gigantic boulders, in fact Pike's Peak itself is granite).
•neatly folded clothes, naked/almost naked body (happens often!).
I couldn't find anything unusual with the weather for 3/8 or 3/9. Most of the time Missing 411 cases involve sudden inclement weather on the days of &/or following few days.
In several Missing 411 cases it's been reported that the missing 411 began acting out of character, or irratic, just before vanishing. Josh taking his clothes off may relate to that. It's also been reported that some ppl act almost like they're suddenly hypnotized, no longer controlling their thoughts & actions. Josh may have experienced the bizarre sudden silencing of the woods that's been reported. Maybe that scared him enough into trying to hide in the fireplace.
I know these things I've mentioned sound ridiculous. I truly do. But the reality is, there are well over 1600 cases that all have most, if not all of these things, and more.
It's almost as if National Parks have invisible barriers or access points into other dimensions at certain times. I'd even go as far as to say there may be creatures or beings with supernatural abilities that cohearse people via mindspeak, or even just abduct them.
If you've never looked into it, I urge you to. Stay safe.
Again, I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's honestly one of the best explanations for what's happening regarding missing people in national parks.
Al: “ this was an accidental death. Two people accidentally stuffed him into the chimney”
I can’t believe I literally never thought about the possibility of a prank gone wrong. It wasn’t even that it’s unrealistic, It just… never crossed my mind. I feel like that is the most likely explanation because nothing else makes sense & the small details add up.
Excellent coverage. So sorry for Joshua and his family. Heartbreaking case.
Born and raised in Colorado and I can say small mountain towns,have lots of secrets,that are kept out of fear. Most believe his death wasn't an accident and it's hard knowing unless someone talks,the true will never be known.
Obviously it wasn’t an accident anyone who believes otherwise is dim
This case is just so perplexing. I don't see any possible way that Joshua could have done this to himself but it seems like unless someone who knows tells what happened there will never be answers.
If you are interested you could look up the case of Harley Dilly. The same thing happened to him.
10 to life has an elaborate episode on his story.
When I saw the title of this video, I immediately thought of the Harley Dilly case. Such a sad and tragic way to die.
I'd never heard this story before but it is so eerily similar to the Harley Dilly case. 😢😢😢
There is another case of a younger boy who died going down a chimney headfirst in winter. He was also missing some clothes. They are quite similar, but the rebar on top of the chimney and a potential confession is a sticking point.
So if he was found head first and feet up a maybe that he did it. He was found like this : head down folded in half. So imagine someone sitting on top of the chimney their butt fell in they folded in half legs up head up butt down. EXCEPT he was found the opposite of that head down feet down over his head butt UP. Folded in half. No. Way. He. Fell. Or. Climbed. In. No way.
Omg your hair 😍😍😍 This style and color really suit you!!! You look freaking STUNNING ❤️
You are always so respectful when talking about the cases and I really appreciate it. And as a kid who was told no to band because the cost of an instrument was out of reach for what my mom made I know how much places like Save the Music matter so thank you for that as well. Take time to look after yourself, I know researching and talking about these cases can be hard and you've got the con ick on top of all that which can take some time to recover from. Thank you for all that you do in bringing these cases attention and trying to help people.
I just don't see why he would try to climb up a chimney feet first, or climb down one head first. Neither one is a very optimal decision. I also don't think it would be very easy to shove someone up a chimney head first, nor do I understand how someone could have taken their clothes off trapped upside down in a chimney. It's a very strange case. I just wonder if the "neatly folded clothes" isn't a bit hyperbolic and the clothes were just piled and flattened over time due to gravity, and it just appeared to be neater than it actually was... Sadly, without knowing someone who was in the room IF someone was, or being able to speak to the kid in the afterlife, it's always going to be mysterious, sadly.
I was very confused about this case until that last detail about "Andy". The fact that people literally said he admitted to it.. The fact that he went on to murder someone..
I audibly gasped when I saw your hair, it's stunning! Really complements your skin tone too, you're glowing Danelle 🥰🎉 On a heavier note, this case has always made me so frustrated, it breaks my heart to think that Josh has just been left without any serious investigations into his death. His family have been through so so much.
I have no idea what to think about this case. So sad. I’ll be 36 on Oct 13, and I can relate to being one of those teens/young adults that would find abandoned places to hook up, smoke and drink. It was something we all did. I really wish there were answers to this case. It’s just so all over the place. RIP Joshua. Condolences to his family 💜
I just wanna say, idc how many times a story has told, it is not been told until Danelle Hallan tells it. Her dedication and empathy are unmatched (imo). ❤❤❤❤
So sad 90% of the comments are about hair and not him and his case. Does he not deserve the respect other victims on this channel get?
I agree. It is very disappointing and not at all what I have come to expect out of the viewers here.
You have to admit her hair is quite gorgeous…
It’s not disrespectful at all, everyone listening of course cares and are interested, especially the listeners that are here every week. I think we can still acknowledge when someone is looking good
So ridiculous. Who are you to tell people what they can comment? Who says he’s not getting the respect. They’ve watched the whole video! Don’t like it don’t read the comments 🙄
Could possibly be because the first thing people see before hearing the story is her hair so they’ll pause the video and comment on it immediately, especially if viewers have watched Danelle for years and have seen her hair transformations but also if viewers have listened to this case covered by other platforms and are watching/listening to Danelle cover it because she might be able to provide more information or updates? Or maybe people just don’t have anything substantial to add in terms of facts or theories but want to support and uplift someone by adding a nice comment (helps with algorithms). peeps also comment while watching/listening in “real time” 🤷🏻♀️ could also be a combination 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
That stunning hair ❤❤❤❤
So the body was there for 7 years, and the owner of the cabin didn't even notice?! Who owns property but never fully checks on it at least once a year...
She said earlier that there was a bad smell and he was up inside the chimney so not visible
Such an interesting case. I didn't realize that you hadn't covered it already. Thanks for your version of this story.
You look so great and your hair is so pretty like this!
This makes me think of the Harley Dilly case.
MERMAID PRINCESS DANELLE OMG 🧜♀️
Is next year finally the year I go to crime con 👀 if any of you have gone what is your favorite part or what do you take away from it?
I sure hope so!!! I feel there is so much to take away from it. Everything from learning about personal safety, to hearing straight from families affected by true crime. This year in particular I sat across from the Gabby Petito Foundation table and heard about efforts to change legislation when it comes to the line of questioning that may help save others like Gabby. There are always lots of amazing professionals from attorneys to detectives, higher ups in foundations and organizations like NCMEC, NCIS, etc. It is such an endless wealth of knowledge and collaboration and is so awesome to get together with like minded people.
@@DanelleHallanthank you for sharing! I really want to go. My goal is to eventually do PR/community relations for non profits like NCMEC. I’m going to look into getting to Nashville for sure!
@@DanelleHallanThis is such a good reply to a great question. True crime and its fanbase can get a bad rap sometimes or maybe the side eye from people who dont understand it. Some people argue that the true crime community is exploitative and unkind to the victims. While there are exploitative channels out there and the line between exploiting and non exploiting can sometimes be thin, its important that we illustrate all the amazing things this community can do and all the voices that would have been silenced if they had not been lifted up by the True Crime. Real life things are happening and its just amazing! True crime is so much more than its reputation sometimes affords it.
I have a vague memory of an urban legend resembling this story where a kid was messing around, sometimes with friends and sometimes alone, and fell headfirst down a chimney and ended up trapped there. It floated around for a few years, I think when I was between 10 and 13, which would have been 2004 to 2007-ish. Unfortunately I had a bout of depression about then so my memory is spotty, but I wonder if people started telling the story based on this case, which is a lot to unpack. Edit: I did a quick search and stories like this of people getting stuck in chimneys are much older, like beginning around the early 1800s or maybe earlier. I still wonder if these stories had a resurgence based on the case.
So heartfelt. You are a special person. Thanks for all you do!
Were the clothes found CLEAN or did were the covered in chimney soot?? This is vital information to reach a conclusion to me!! Sending much love to his family... After two tragic losses. 😢
Why didn't the police take it seriously given the death of his brother by suicide?
Especially coming at the 2yr anniversary of his brother's death!!
I’ve been wanting to go to crime con soooooo bad since 2017 but haven’t been able to swing it. Hearing it will be held in my home state of TN next year just made my day! I’ll definitely be buying tickets the day they go on sale. 😁 also, loving the hair! Had to pause this one minute in to type out this comment out of pure excitement and joy! 😆
I wonder if the medex was able to figure out what his original position was and how decomposing and mummifying affectet his dead body and esp the tissue surrounding his joints 🤔
Let’s say it louder for folks in the back… Harley Dilly! He was found inside a chimney, with his puffer jacket & hoodie & other clothing folded neatly in a pile inside the home where Harley’s body was discovered long after his disappearance, lodged inside the chimney in a very peculiar position; also, his glasses were vital for HD, & his glasses were neatly placed on his pile of folded clothes.
It was so awesome to meet you. I still stupid that I didn’t realize it was you at first. Can’t wait to see ya again next year
I truly believe that at least one other person was with Josh, possibly Andy. The cabin sounds like many places I would have hung out in with friends as a teen. It could have been a dare, it could have been murder, but someone knows! I sadly don’t think we will ever know unless someone truly comes forward and confesses.
You are always beautiful but today you are just absolutely radiant!
I’ve heard of this case before but didn’t know all of the information you gave. Thank you for covering it so thoroughly.
I'm jealous of your hair ❤ .... this was heartbreaking to hear. RIP to Zachary and Josh. I hope the family can find some kind of peace. I'm not buying the story they're selling. Josh was put in that chimney.
Harley Dilley is the same exact scenario...you should cover him as well 😮
Your hair 😍😍😍😍
Can’t even cope with how beautiful your hair is.😱
I've heard of several cases like this, all of them have been accidents--this one is murder.
Danelle you always present cases in such a compassionate way and I like that you usually wonder about the exact same things as me! This case has ALWAYS bothered me and I will never forget Josh. I believe that one day, someone is going to talk!
I think based on the evidence that we currently have, it could go either way. it could be a super bizarre weird accident or him hiding while experiencing hypothermia, it could definitely be foul play. we just don't have enough evidence to prove one direction over the other.
His cause of death should definitely have been left undetermined. Could have been positional asphyxia, hypothermia, dehydration or foul play but we don't have any evidence in any specific direction.
It was awesome to meet you at CrimeCon last week :) There was a case here in Ohio with a boy who was found in a chimney. Have you heard of the case of Harley Dilly?
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yes! another really sad caae!
btw your hair is lookin ANGELIC!
Hi Danielle,, wow you look gorgeous 😍. As always I absolutely adore you and you are super special and so compassionate 😍🤗🥰🌹🌟💖
Guys please click the like button because Danielle is incredibly amazing at telling these cases and you won't be disappointed 😊
Rebar is steel used to reinforce concrete. Unless it significant weakens when exposed to the elements, I doubt it just rusted away.
Btw love love ur hair
HAIR HAIR HAIR HAIR OMG IT LOOKS SO GOOD
I’m not even into the case yet, just here to say you have the most gorgeous hair EVER 😍
someone definitely knows what happened, an 18 year old diving head first down a chimney half naked just doesn't make logical sense
Dannnnnng, you soooo gorgeous, girl!
You look so good ❤❤❤ I absolutely love this hair color and style on you.
This is one of the most bizzar cases ever.
Definitely not an accident. No Way.
I tend to think the new friend was involved somehow.
And Josh was undeessed and put into the fireplace while unconscious.
Then blocked in.
Sucomed to hypothermia during that first night.
Therefore never woke up or never regained enough strength to push his way out.
If only one person moved that bar in front of the fireplace., then one person should have been able to use their legs to push it out enough to escape.
I agree with so many others who question why the strong lingering smell was not investigated.
One damn dog could have located the source.
LE failed this family 100%
And... I'm sorry, but the owner of the building seems sus to me.
I am guessing that he knew teens were frequenting that cabin.
Yet he never repirted anything ?
Never questioned the smell ?
Did he never visit his cabin ?
I guess thats possible.
It is so sad that the family has suffered such tragedy.
I am sure there has been no peace or resolution for them.
Good presentation Danielle.
You look exceptionally beautiful with your long wavey locks.
Danelle your hair looks gorgeous! You look beautiful! ❤
My first thought for COD was positional asphyxiation based on the position his remains were found. Would be faster than hypothermia I would think and probably more likely. Also, this sounds so much like the Harley Dilly case to me... the position of the body, the folded clothes inside the house, the abandoned house and, of course, the chimney.
I just read about Harley Dilly. Insane how similar these cases are x
I'm wondering if he was on the roof and planning to climb down via the chimney, but slipped and fell headfirst, which would explain why he was upside down. It would also explain why his pants were off; they would've rolled up as he fell down the chute. With his back almost certainly broken, I wonder if he died right away. Thoughts?
Oops, guess I should've listened longer. Now it's sounding like a prank gone wrong. Danelle has a good theory of him being blocked inside the chimney area with the breakfast bar which led to him trying to climb the chimney in desperation. But if that were true, wouldn't you expect there to be rumors about a party where this happened? Since when would a bunch of teenagers keep a secret that big to themselves?
I've wondered if he and the friend of his were trying to gain entry and when Josh got stuck the friend panicked (maybe they were high or maybe just because they were trespassing) and left. The friend didn't seem like an especially loyal or upstanding buddy to have.
Gain entry to what? His clothes were found inside the cabin.
@@aaronmichelle4634 Good point. I must have been drinking when I said this. I know this case well.. so I'm unsure how I typed this nonsense. Carry on and ignore my bs.