[WARZONE] S2 Reloaded Close Range Meta - Best Builds And Loadouts To Win More Games! WZ, MW3, MWIII
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3:30 TTK Analysis
9:39 STK Analysis
13:26 NEW (Fixed?) Updated Attachment Mechanic
15:45 HRM-9 Build
19:58 AMR9 Build
22:56 RAM-9 Build
27:08 RAM-9 Tac Stance Build
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[WARZONE] S2 Reloaded Close Range Meta - Best Builds And Loadouts To Win More Games! WZ, MW3, MWIII
[WARZONE] S2 Reloaded Close Range Meta - Best Builds And Loadouts To Win More Games! WZ, MW3, MWIII 
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LR4 Flash hider better than the 3.5 Flash hider... Same exact stats but LR4 doesn't have a hit to aiming stability
When building a tac stance build what number should I be trying to hit in tac stance spread to be considered effective?? I’ve gotten it as low as .8 but I prefer my 1.0 build
Thanks
Mcw with jak kit sonic supp high grain rounds. 800 rpm 746 m/s 49 head 36 upper lower torso.
Fast as fuck ttk just don't know what it is exactly, utterly destroying anything close range.
I like the idea of this but every tournament I entered has obvious cheaters, they go like 55-0 every game
@rush_onyoutube
I'm no competitive player , just a casual that likes to know all intel
Cheers mate
@@iModBKzCheers bruva
I’m a HIGHLY elite competitive player… in my heart and mind. 😅 I’m the king of the bots basically 👑 😂
@@AYYO_Dorahey man, at least your the king of something!
Amen 😂
The main reason people (or at least I) have defaulted to the Zehmn35 compensator is because it has the same effect as the Cassus Brake does with the AR builds - the firing aim stability really makes the recoil feel a lot more controllable as it gains this weird smoothing effect.
The jak bfb feels way better on the ars.
alternative build for the ram 9: instead of the reargrip, use the buffed V5 short barrel! helps with sprint to fire and recoil! that recoil taken care of also allows for a suppressor! for me that makes up for the downsides.
The muzzle thing has been known for quite a while. For the muzzle break and compensator, gas is vented out of the ports. In Mw2019 it was most noticable. Muzzle breaks dispersed gas horizontally, and compensators dispersed it vertically.
it's funny because this topic shows just how little he actually plays the game. stats would never tell you this, but it's been this way for a while.
@@synlion I play daily (not a good player but enjoy playing) and didn't know this. So I did learn something here.
@@synlionyeah it’s pretty nuts he “tests” the game like crazy so probably has a lot of game time but you can tell he actually doesn’t play competitively
@@kometts2123 i'd recommend looking at streamers for reference on loadouts. this channel is great for detailed stats, but nothing really beats the insights of players who no-life this game all day every day. with them you obviously have to take into account that they are playing on top tier setups and are much much better than the average player, but they usually go by what's actually effective more than they do based on what gives the best stats on paper.
I was aware of flash hiders, they became popular by the end of mw2 if I remember correctly and if you're using iron sights, you don't want that muzzle flash and smoke so it's either flash hiders or suppressors.
This is correct, especially important for MnK
@@axel8greaseyep, we need all the help we can get
@@djomla9999ain’t that the truth
@@djomla9999exactly. Especially since mw3 hit. Something feels off.
Thanks for info. Always look forward to these guides. Tony, would love to see you do a deep dive into Tac-stance. It's not a perfect solution but it's really helping me win a lot of CQC fights against controller. With the right attachments, your recoil is actually way lower than ADS for some reason, and you can easily hit targets at 30+ meters. Not that that's a reliable way to kill, but it's just to illustrate that Tac-Stance is actually extremely viable for MnK if you build right. *EDIT* I hadn't made it till the last build yet. So it seems you covered it already. Cheers!
I am very thankfull for tac stance, basicly it breaks aim assist, controlers have aa and mnk have tac stance, I see it that way. Ram9 full tac stance build and I havent lost a single close fight after that.
Just move left and right, and best thing is, controlers cant use it because it takes too much stick correction, so we actually got an answer to counter aim assist.
I didn’t know about the muzzles hiding smoke or flash. Iceman Isaac once showed at the beginning of this game or MW2 that suppressors actually made more muzzle smoke. Glad its fixed.
As a somewhat casual MnK player I really appreciate the tac stance build at the end. It's perfect for me as I love the Ram-9 but, as you said, close range engagements on Mnk feel very unforgiving (unless you're an absolute demon), and the irons aren't the best for me. Appreciate all the work you do for the community my man!
Tony ringing us the best data backed info on the meta. No hype. No fluff. Pure data. Thanks for all the hard work Tony.
This was truly a really helpful and informative video! Thank so much TGD, the community really appreciates your input
Hrm9 feels most like OG verdansk MP5, which is why I use it most.
The best analysis and content for breaking down the best weapons. Answers the question I’m always asking/wondering post patches!
Yep, been paying attention to using a sort of flash hider when i use a gun with iron sights
Thank you for tac stance build. I'm still new in WZ and this discoreved a whole new game to me. Super fun to play.
Been rocking the Ram-9 since it came out, it's real nice. 50 round mag, Mk.3 Reflector, Zehmn35 flash hider, DR-6 Handstop, and Recon Comb. So easy to use
I'm surprised that you use a sight on the Ram-9. I find the iron sights to be excellent and more than usable.
A sight is completely unnecessary
@@wilson0213 and @ProzacDon unnecessary doesn't mean it doesn't make the experience better. the ram has great iron sights, but in cqc it's much easier to acquire and track targets with a sight. the ram 9 also works perfectly with one slot dedicated to a sight, unlike the ram 7. these things matter less for controller players, but on pc, being able to properly track your targets has top priority.
I’ve always used that flash hider. Confused about the stats but always felt it was comfortable.
You can get tac stance spread down to .7 with ram9 its absurd. Personally i run one with msp handstop increasing spread to 1.1 but makes it much faster. Gun fries. Easily takes down middle target.
It’s shocking to me how few people run it this way. Definitely the way to go IMO.
whats ur build? same as vid but with msp handstop?
@@alexandrulascu6436 no. I'm not near my game right now but it's roughly...
Msp
50 round
There's a grip or comb that helps tac spread.( The one that does more)
Stock that helps (I think there's 2 the one that does more)
And intas casus 14 ( or whatever that red dot is called with the laser attached. If you don't have that the corvus laser I think it is? Good tac spread and isn't always active). .. I might be mixing a few attachments up with other tac builds but that should get you in the right direction. Just look at the tac spread stat as you build. You can add the bastion bruen angled under grip for even less spread instead of msp. Hope that helps get ya there
Appreciate the work as always!
The Trebuchet Brake is broken btw. It’s locked for most people.
yeah it's locked for me sadly
Same
yeap, along w/ Jak BFB
Yup mine is locked
Yeah, would love to know how Tony has it unlocked
I really loved how you made several builds for different playstyles so you can choose what suits you the best! AMAZING!
FSS Spectre Microtherm on that RAM9 is really nice. Won't work on ranked but in other games poping smoke and shooting through it is really nice. Good way also to counter controller players
Thanks Tony, was wondering if you could compare reload add times with and without SoH for these meta builds?
More like True Team Player... Thanks man for all the info you share!
Every build, every attachment chosen with a reason provided with facts. Great Video! Thank you!
Thanks again dude.
Great video!
Been playing a lot with tac stance on m&k and i love it
going to try your ram9 tac build today
The compensator has been like that for a very long time. There are 3 muzzles that significantly reduces visual recoil which is the compensator flash hider, the purifier muzzle, and the casus brake will actually reduce visual recoil significantly. No other attachment will reduce visual recoil to the same amount than those 3 muzzles. If you hate visual recoil, use those muzzles. Now the thing with compensator flash hider is that it also gets rid of the flash, so no flash plus less visual recoil is awesome. But I would highly recommend to choose between the casus or compensator based on the actual recoil pattern of the gun you want. If you find that your gun has more horizontal recoil/s[read, use the casus. If you find that your gun has more vertical recoil/spread than horizontal then use the compensator flash. But for smgs, definitely use the compensator flash to get rid of a majority of the visual recoil. I find that less visual recoil helps me win more of my gunfights both long range and close range.
oh my god thank you, i genuinely never knew this
Plus you’re on the mini map a half a second less with the comp flash hider!
using the zehmn flash hider on mw2 guns are real good, helps alot to reduce the shaky visual recoil (especially with sights)
just dont expect them to perform better than mw3 guns, but still pretty fun if you feel like using mw2 guns
Big ups
Jak Raven is the only close range gun I use anymore. Never looked back on any SMG.
One more minor detail that makes Zehman flash hider good is that it reduces the time you are pinged on the minimap - sort of opposite of Jak BFB
kinda overrated, jgod I think tested it and it reduces the ping to 2.5s down from 3s
fair enough@@smokyx
Going to give that tac stance build a try. Btw I still love the AMR, won some small maps with just the ground loot AMR9.
definitely would try the trebuchet brake if it wasnt showing as locked, despite having the WSP swarm past lvl 6, need for unlocking. so frustrating when things dont unlock when they say they are supposed to!!
I used the hrm but the striker 9 ground loot always feels so good
The stubby barrel paired with the lachman recoil stock, high grain rounds and compensated flash hider is crazy good. Sleeper build
that tac stance build is fire
bastion angled grip is the best option for tac stance builds. Its a staple mod for tac stance builds
Appreciate all that you do for the COD Community TrueData 🔥🔥 You da man & da Legend 😎💪🏼💪🏼
Jak Glassless on the AMR. You're welcome.
Yea, I build mine exactly like he recommends except with the JAK Glassless as my recoil reduction attachment... It definitely smooths out the recoil...
@@pessimysticism try the sva 545 on burst with the Ares 30 scope. It reduces all recoil 10%. It's disgusting tbh.
@@brokentablespodcast Yea I was pushing the SVA for months before it finally came to light... nobody listened to me and then all of a sudden someone with a following made a video...
Build the AMR9 for tac stance. Eliminates most of the unpredictable recoil and allows you to use the no stock. Makes it feel like more of an smg imo.
@@nicholasgangwer4895 I love tac stance
The STFT on the AMR9 can be almost mitigated when you slide cancel into ADS and firing, "slide cancel to fire time," lol. Trust, when you really dial in your gameplay with the AMR9, man its dangerous.
Love the work
I'm new to MW3 and this was a great breakdown video. Keep up the amazing work and you have a new subscriber!
Thanks so much for your work. These videos are always amazing!
trebuchet brake is locked for me even tho i have the WSP Swarm to level6 and its ticked, anyone knows how to unlock it?
For me as well
Def gonna check out the REPEAT tourneyz!
A nice middle of the road HRM with rear grip and instead of a barrel can do it all
Thanks Tony
I use strafe build for ram 9. I don’t find myself in situations where sprint to fire is important (slide into fights)
Big w on getting sponsored :) You deserve as much support as you can get!!!!!!
I noticed it when I first put on the Jak muzzle. Visual overload
Just what I needed
The new Holger 556 conversion kit has to be up there, I'd be shocked if it wasn't. Just won a game in Vondel using a tac stance build and it feels great. Love the content 🔥
The barrels are side by side so I’ll have to give tac stance a shot next time I’m on. I feel like the side by side barrels is what makes it feel inconsistent to me.
@@mikeD1234 Tac Stance felt a lot more consistent than a typical ADS build. Definitely worth a try!
It's not that great TTK wise
Try the MCW with the conversion kit. BV is lacking but the TTK is very very good.
Thanks Tony and co!
I wanted to see the MCW conversion kit and the renetti conversion kit in the SMG mix. Wonder how you feel about those two because they have really competitive TTK
Renetti isn't that bad but the HRM is still a better option.
@@Luganoff ofcorse my favorite I just get bored and look for other options when available.
I was using the MCW conversion today and winning gunfights left and right. The movement speed is really good and the TTK is right there with the AMR out to 23m.
Meta is in a great spot for SMGs atm
My Trebuchet Brake attachment is bugged. I've max leveled the WSP Swarm and the attachment is still locked.
I have the same problem
same, anyone knows how to fix it?
same
The smg meta is one I think of the most in this game. Ty for ur thoughts on it. 😁
Metaphor populized flash hiders with his casus brake ram build. i dont know if casus is a real flash hider but it still reduces that visual recoil/shake massively.
also try my hrm build - sonic supressor, dr6 handstop, pcs90 assault grip, hatchet light stock, 50mag
not that popular cause no one plays silencers anymore but not showing up massively helps in cq fights imo
Thank you
Appreciate the work you put into the videos you make.
Since the devs love stealth changing/adjusting things behind the scenes. How about the low/high ammunitions options if they’re worth it and or changed from previous testing.
Great job as always Tony! 👏
nooo! my secret tac stance build for the ram! shhhhh! that build carried me in ranked
Thanks dude!
you just exposed my ARM build that i've been using for the past month. lots of people are sleeping on that build but it is actually really good.
The AMR is defo a roller gun, it feels pretty shite on MnK. And it’s also too slow for me tbh
@@great_Caligolai knew i wasn’t tripping the gun always felt iffy for me on MnK i just couldn’t understand what it was
Great tip on the tac stance. I was and probably still was going to get a controller so to experience how good the AA is. What controller you recommend? Btw the last time I played controller was on the Xbox with the original HALO. So I probably will get slaughtered even more then I am normally on mkb.
AMR9 as a sniper support is really good. Feels like a laser at mid range.
I use the sonic suppressor s cuz it doesn’t hurt ADS wit the HRM 9 wit Princep long barrel for iron sights & range is like 15-17 M.
What makes the wsp9 so good is the hip fire … I’ve gotten so many kills just hipfiring in close engagements and have so many bullets to work with cause the high damage per shot
L4R before the spiral v3. MwII attachments don’t have the all important firing aim stability.
Ram9 is like ram 7. Really consistent ttk across the body
Just curious why you use the spiral flash hider instead of the lr4? They literally have the same stats but the lr4 doesn’t have the downside of hurting your aiming stability
not on the game rn, but most likely because the lr4 has worse visual recoil.
I tried both in the gun range I didn’t notice a difference I’ll keep playing around with them
Dont disappear for so long man, your videos are the best. As always, I'm going to ask for sniper support recommendations, so hit us up!
AMR - nimbus barrel, 50rnd, optic of choice, phantom rear grip, precision stock
Ram 7 - purifier muzzle, cronen headwind long barrel, 60 or 40, hvt 3.4 stock, and jak glassless
Mcw with aftermarket part - 40 rnd, cyclone long barrel, rapid strike rear grip, and either jak glassless or zehmn
You could use the bp50 is you like it, but it’s not the best anymore.
Cor-45 if you can be accurate while spamming - coversion kit, 40 rnd, zehmn, optic of choice, and the stock that helps with gun kick that looks like one solid smooth piece. I can’t remember the name of it, but it helps significantly more with visual recoil than the other recoil stock.
I don’t think there are any other guns worth using as proper sniper support, unless you just run a regular smg build. I use that amr as sniper support, so the other gun builds may not be perfect, but I have used the other ones as well, and they should be pretty close.
Finally! Thanks Tony ❤
Does Sprint to fire only come into play when you go from normal sprint to hip fire?
As always hands down the best CoD channel/content maker. Thank you.
I just finally perfected my ram 9 build last night. I was SLAYING solos with it. Winning a good amount of fights past the 1st damage drop off.
SURPRISE SURPRISE it gets nerfed TODAY!
the zehmn and cassus brake are the best bc they take away the visual recoil the most which is the most important recoil stat. They've been the best since the Ram 7 came out and people found out about it
Agree. I use the Casus on my Ram and SOA and they feel really nice with it. And Zehn for the HRM
Great video as always, just a hint: if you build ram9 as a tactical posture gun you ll have the best smg in the game by far. Try it ;)
I want to say suppressors add more smoke at the end of the gun or some nonsense because how suppressors irl increase heat, idk how true but I would be curious if sonic suppressor is better than one of these flash hiders.
There’s an issue with the firing range and increased smoke
Looking forward to checking out the Ram9 Tac stance on M&K. Anything to get a leg up on aim assist :D
Beem using for some time now, I am yet to lose a close range fight, its a counter to aim assist since the movement nrakes the AA
About tac stance: does ads time affect tac stance too? Is it just the same time to get the aim in tac stance or in normal ads?if i sprint and then ads+fire should i consider sprint to fire time? Or ads time? Or both?
Yes, its same ads time to tac stance as its to normal ads
Another top video chief. Loving your work as always.
Try the Bruen Bastion Angled Grip for your Tac Stance builds. It's great.
Trebuchet brake is locked for me even though I have the swarm fully maxed. Any ideas?
Same its probably bugged for a lot of people
My trebuchet brake is locked says I need to get the wsp swarm to level 6 but I have that gun maxed leveled. How do I unlock it??
Mine too.
@@marshallhenry9430 so how do we unlock it then?
Same for me , was going to ask the same question…
So is sprint to fire as important if you are slide canceling into fights?
Only if it’s really slow. The sprint to fire delay is still there, but overlaps with the slide animation, so once you finish your slide cancel and start to ads/fire, the sprint to fire delay is usually completed already. Only if the tac sprint to fire is more than 300-400 ms (which is how long slide canceling is) would sprint to fire be a problem
Hey Tony could u do a video on 2.5 up to say 4.0 x sights and which ones have the best visual recoil? As there's quite alot of good options but none feel like the OG VLK 3.0
what about tac stance build for the HRM and AMR? Worth it? Why not?
Didn’t know about the muzzle thing
Hey guys, If I wanted to use an optic, of which other attachment shoul I get rid off?
Hey Tony do we have any info on whether Tac-stance changes the amount of aim assist a controller player gets?
I have used the tac stance ram for a while now (controller player on ps5) and regular ads def feels stickier.
It’s either the increased movement speed makes it feel that way, or there is an actual difference
Sprint to fire time is sort of overrated in games with slide cancelling since the slide cancelling eliminates the StF and you can start shooting mid slide. Also the Trebuchet Brake literally JUST got made usable like 1 day ago
This attachment is locked for me.. I have met the requirements. WSP swarm has both mastery camos.
Ram9 is himothy. For me Strikefury compensator, DR-6, high grain, 50 round, recon comb
Could you do a video comparing the overpressured and frangible ammunitions, they were extremely powerful in the previous warzone, but I feel like they don’t get used at all in this game.
Is there a sniper support video coming? I'm well decided on what to use for long range and close range but i can't decide on a support.
The TTK calculator really needs to be re-done when it comes to Open Bolt Delay. It does NOT stack on top of ADS time or Sprint to Fire. It is it's own mechanic that begins the moment the trigger is pulled, independent of ADS or Sprint to Fire. Also, it should be a static value. The calculator appears to calculate it based on a formula.
Does TGD have data of TS time (tac stance) ?
What do you think about the jak mcw (the headshot does 46 damage website still says 43 I beleive)
Angled SP-10 on Ram-9 sorts the wiggle.
Why not Phantom Grip for Sprint to Fire reduction on AMR9?
-6% ADS speed. -24% STF, just 15% less flinch resistance