This poor flight instructor. Trying to make the “foreign student” feel comfortable and being so nice out of his own kindness and integrity. Talk about the ultimate betrayal and con job. This gentleman reminds me of my dad-honest, good-natured, and decent. Makes me so angry that he was used in this way. Completely not his fault. Awful deception and pure evil.
yeah, Americans of his type are very mis used because they are way too nice to people they shouldn't be. They've been brought up to be decent and nice and then are taken advantage of by criminals and terrorists. And criminals and terrorists worldwide are very aware of this American tendency and utilize it. I always tell Americans, stop being so chummy to people you should not be so chummy with.
Just like many of those people on the Kibbutz in Israel. The people they brought into their homes and community, the people they helped were the ones that handed over details of their families, homes, children and pets. Betrayal is a potent pill.
Malignant narcissists do this kind of thing all day, every day. They actually ENJOY duping others. There is actually a name for it, it's called "duping delight".
How many times is he going to say, "I don't remember" i can understand someone teaching more than 50 students at a time to say I don't remember, regarding a particular question, but this guy doesn't know or don't remember much about this terrorist 🤔🙄
Rod thank you for your service as a military veteran. There’s no way you should feel guilty about anything you did or didn’t do. You absolutely did the right thing by submitting your red flag thoughts to the FAA. What more could you possibly have done? Your a great person & a great American
At the time there was no precedent of anything like that. However, it is interesting that the US must have been the easiest place to get this flight training.... or maybe just the cheapest.
@@olliestudio45there was precedent. The FBI had intelligence on middle eastern people who are in flight schools that are possibly involved with terrorist organizations and possibly planning an attack involving airplanes. The problem is the FBI and all the government agencies didn’t talk to each other and that’s how things like this fell through the cracks.
I’m a private pilot and I see what you are saying. Especially back then. They screwed me up for doing a low pass over my own property in my super cub. Nothing came of it but I had to deal with their bullshit and not fly for over a month and it was all for nothing but they let shit like this get by as well as taking forever to catch up with idiots like Trevor Jacob. The faa now is all over everything in good ways and bad. Unfortunately just being suspicious does not constitute a crime and there is a fine line between being proactive and protecting people and violating rights
I love that Mark carved out a good amount of time to give this guy an actual interview. He didn't just treat him as "the guy who trained a 9/11 hijacker" but he also gave this man dignity by ending the interview with a good chunk of his personal stories of being a commercial pilot. Respect to Mark.
Over and over again. Unless they have a gripe with you then they come down full force like ruby ridge. Or if you said something today they would call you a racist and say you're racially profiling.
This man is the definition of a "innocent bystander". I do hope he knows within himself that he is not at fault for ANYTHING that commenced on 9/11. My heart goes to him. Bless you sir.
RED FLAG: If student taking flight lessons ONLY wants to learn to FLY JETLINER but not learn how to land that IS A HUGE RED FLAG. Obviously, there would be some reason why they are not needing to land. Odd, strange that student said he didn't need to learn how to land jet. 😢😢😢😢😢
@Elaine-p8t um... yes, you are correct that it would be a red flag. That's not the conversation correlating with my comment that you're responding to...
yeah you know nothing about 9/11 then because they were our guys and they got what they needed from the CIA. Americans really don’t know what their own government does or know history kinda sad.
Back in 2004, I was a teen going to Florida from Philly with my family. We just happened to be walking to the terminal at the same time as our pilot. We chatted with him, he was a very nice man. And during boarding he actually let my younger brother and I sit in the cockpit. We were super shocked considering 9/11 was only 3 years prior, and I have no idea if that was even allowed, but it was such a cool experience and those pictures we took still make me happy to look at 20 years later. I hope that pilot is well and living his best life.
I don’t know when airlines officially stopped doing the whole take kids into the cockpit and give them flight wings thing but it would’ve been 2008 and I was flying for the very first time on an alternative spring break trip with a big group of college students and someone ended up flagging down the flight attendant to tell them it was my first time flying. It must have been before take off but they took me up to meet the pilot real quick and gave me the flight wings pin. I’m drawing a blank right now on which airline it was- one of them that doesn’t even exist anymore, but yeah, that sort of thing seems to have still been allowed- or at least happened while the plane was still on the ground. I assume not every flight crew or airline was even allowing young adults up front but it’s kind of a bummer that they all have stopped that kind of thing. I’m pretty sure I still have those wings floating around somewhere. I love flying and will drive to airports to just watch planes take off and listen to music in the car when I need to de-stress or just go somewhere to think. Would love to learn to fly but one of those kind of far out dreams.
That is so sweet for your brother. My dad was a captain for United Airlines when I was growing up (1960-1985), a different era. When we vacationed my dad would bring us kids to the cockpit to meet the crew. That was special.
I flew only a few months ago, they still let two kiddos into the cockpit. But I believe as long as you’re still on the ground there’s no real danger involved-and usually it happenes during boarding when door etc are still open and stuff.
the flight school I went to in San Carlos CA. had one of these guys, he had faked log books, wasn't interested in landing and seemed real interested in the golden gate bridge and Ames research center. He didn't end up taking part in the attack but they caught him afterward
How do you figure? This guy is an absolutely trash interviewer. He doesn't ask the right questions, he asks questions that have already been asked. I've seen multiple videos of his and he's always boring to hear even when he has interesting people on. He can't hang with any interview.
They took off from Boston, I was 6 years old, in Maine on vacation, but from Massachusetts, the beach house we rented for vacation was about 20 minutes from where a couple of the terrorists took their on little vacation. I remember my grandparents calling my into the living room, explaining what happened, and I watched the news as the first tower burned, and the plane flew into the second tower. To this day it’s one of my first memories. I’ll never forget that day.
2 of the planes took off from Boston, Hani took off from Dulles in Virginia and U93 took off from Newark. Atta also flew from Portland Maine to Boston prior for a connecting flight.
My friend’s mom was supposed to start her first day of work that day in the WTC. However, she quit the job a day or 2 before because of a bad feeling she had. Crazy.
I swear the other day I thought to myself why has the world never heard from the instruments at the flight schools. So great timing with this. Thank you
@@natecote1971if you go into everything with your mind made up, you can twist anything to fit your narrative. Generally the most obvious explanation is the correct one.
@@natecote1971in fact my dad went to one of the flight schools they used in Arizona in the right period and knew of a suspicious Middle Eastern guy, who may or may not have been involved, so I know for a fact that a lot of what he said was true.
So great to hear from this guy! I feel like he has a lot of great stories from being a pilot. So sad he had to go through this and I hope he knows he’s in no way to blame. Great interviewer, I can’t wait to watch more
On 9/12 they had Logan airport shut down. I worked for a tow company that helped tow out all the cars because no one was allowed to go back in to get their cars. Took about 30 hours and at least 50 tow company’s to tow em all out.
You have no idea how much I appreciate your channel Mark. I’ve gotten tired of listening to varying opinions of the same trending topics from pods every week. You’re a breath of fresh air! Truly, thank you 🙏🏼
This dude seems like a genuine good dude and he seems like he has a lot to say and remember I’m shocked this is the first time I’ve seen anyone interview him . Good find and episode !
Camp Gagnon has quickly become 1 of my fav channels.Always has such unique guests. Gnostic/Enoch expert, war scholar. Scientists, shamans, criminals etc. Now this. Mark’s the RUclipsr I never knew I needed
The fact they all came from Saudi Arabia still to this day needs more attention than received.... That ALONE lets you know our own government had more to do with than mentioned.... Because our government and the Saudis have a very close relationship... And we were made to believe that Afghan and Iraqi people were the REAL enemy, when NONE of the attackers were from there makes NO sense 😡
@@slimc7760 ah there r a million videos on it, go watch the documentaries... I ain't typing paragraphs here without giving you evidence... In simple words, america had nothing to lose and everything to gain with this event... And it was the only reason they wanted to attack middle East... And 9/11 doesn't make sense... Instead of arguing here, I suggest you watch some strong and good documentaries with credible sources... It's not very straightforward or simple, it's actually very very suspicious and complicated
Why would where they come from matters when what matters is what group they claimed? Honestly asking because it sounds like you're on some conspiracy bullshit
Not sure how old you are I was a senior in high school and this happened. The official investigation was the 9/11 Commission and there was something to do with when they released their findings there was 21 Pages fully redacted during the next about 10 years you would see this push of people protesting saying release the 21 pages there was certain politicians that would even say publicly those 21 pages should be released President Obama was supposed to release those during his campaign initially he said he was on board to getting Congress or whoever to release the 21st. From what I remember some stuff was released but also there were threats made by the Saudi government that if the 21 page is were fully released that they would immediately dump All American Financial assets that they had which would be not a good thing for us because in those 21 Pages it implicated members of the Saudi royal family and heavily implicated Saudi Arabia themselves being involved
I’m a flight student here in FL. I train out of Palm Beach County Park Airport. The hijackers went to Palm Beach Flight training. I train right next door at Airmax Aviation.
He's actually good at interviewing. The popular podcasts are generally based on pop culture. A guy who taught flight sim to a terrorist isn't as a popular topic for the masses. People like us, sure. I love history. And I love war. (Not in a literal sense)
Mark your so great, look at me, look at me, give my comment a heart, everyone like my praises to Mark. You’re a top notch interviewer Mark. It drives me crazy that you don’t have a million subscribers Mark
@Greg_P611 your life must be a very sad, lonely life. Thinking that a person supporting someone whose content they enjoy is somehow interaction fishing. You will always have a shitty life and will always be jealous of positive comments because you have never received any. I hope you find God and some love in your heart
Should have asked him if he has seen Hanjour's flight path into the pentagon and if he believes that is possible especially knowing he could not pass the test he gave him?
@@TheSnowMan-cy9tu most people believe what the investigation and evidence revealed. It’s been over 20 years, there’s no government conspiracy just government ignorance which is a story as old as time
We don't need to dig any deeper, it's already common knowledge that all the Jewish workers recieved a phone call the day before 911 happened to tell them to stay away from the towers. We know that 5 Jewish tourists were arrested for waiting and cheering the crashing of the planes.
That’s not totally true. You can report suspicious behavior- but, this kid didn’t present suspicious behavior… or maybe the kid/ terrorist did exhibit suspicious behavior and this gentleman being interviewed didn’t pay enough attention to catch it … he’s saying that yes, the kid went through my training - he didn’t pass and this i wasn’t surprised … this guy is pretty non chalant about it all. It’s almost like it took a 9/11 to get his ( and everyone’s) attention. He barely remembers anything, it seems.
I remember me and my mum were allowed to go in the cockpit and talk to the pilot etc. i think it was 1995. It was my first flight but my mum was nervous and one of the flight attendants thought she'd feel better going to see the pilot.
This is the first time I heard another parent talk about their child watching cartoons and news breaking while their kids were watching TV. My daughter was 4, watching the cartoon “Arthur” on PBS as I listened from the bathroom getting ready for work. Suddenly I didn’t hear Arthur. I march out to the living room demanding to know where Arthur went. We both watched as the North Tower burnt, and then as Flight 175 flew into The South Tower.
28 minutres in and its like the interviewer isnt listening to anything the guy's saying, dude mans asking questions the interviewee already answered multiple times before.
Mark has the greatest range of interviews in the podcast game. It doesn’t matter who the guest is the episode is always incredible and engaging. Love you Mr Gags
Disgusting how he and the other flight school owners/instructors were treated. Those agencies took their anger out on people that were victims as well.
Mark, Let the man talk, you’re so worried about asking a question you’re not listening to his answers and you ask him something he already answered! And the first 20 minutes this man must’ve said “like I said “about 25 times. Ask a question, listen to what he saying, let the man finish and then ask another another question!
I flew just 3 months after 9/11, moved to NYC 2 years later, tho I immigrated from Poland, 20 years later worked in the financial district for a few years. Proud to say we're New Yorkers, truly seen a shift in the landscape over the years and our city is stronger than ever through harsh times. This interview is a great way to give us new perspective of the past. 👍
You left Poland? Poland is the only western country with decent common sense left. Hope you kept your citizenship and make it back there before you become just another NY statistic.
I spent the summer in Boston with my children & we left for France 1 week before 9/11…was on Air France thankfully, but couldn’t help thinking of how we left from Logan airport & one week later, 2 planes were hijacked from there. I was so afraid for my twin brother who often took long hauls from Boston to L.A. for work. It was early afternoon our time when the tragedy occurred & I couldn’t get anyone in Boston on the phone. Lucky my brother sent me an email telling me that he was sick & at home. He lost two coworkers though on one of the flights. Never will forget that tragic day & think of all the people who were killed. We have been to NYC twice & visited the memorial & museum 😢
Grew up as a normal USA kid raised by my white mom. Met dad at 13 and learned he was Palestinian. Ever since then been wrestling with some self hate. He’s the most peaceful guy in the world and not at all what people told me middle easterners were like in school. Been Battling standard racism in personal life since a kid and am still just left with this feeling of not wanting being a Palestinian to be an alarm or bad thing. Not Islamic but I nothing but respect for it.
Dude people from the Middle East aren’t bad people even in Afghanistan over 95% of the country didn’t even fight against the United States when we invaded them. Most Muslims are very peaceful people but just like any religion you’ll have bad people just like now it is with Christians, Catholics,Jews, etc…. A easy way to compare radical Islam is like how in America we have Mormons yeah they have parts of the Christian religion but they tweak it and convince people that it’s the true word of god when it isn’t. There is nothing wrong being part middle eastern that’s like Germans not being prof they are German because of hitler in ww2
The middle east is a beautiful place that has been messed up by continuous political drama and blud shed. Learn and grow to appreciate your heritage because it runs incredibly deep (the origin of humanity), don't let the bs of the west taint your view.
I was a white homeless juvenile delinquent and was taken in by an Iranian family. 20 years later I was the best man at a wedding in their family. They were more American and normal than anything I had ever known. Don't fall for the propaganda. These people are not evil.
Mark really provided a therapeutical conversation to a man struck by jarring PTSD, I'd imagine. At the same time, providing the viewer with very rare insights. Looking forward to Mark growing meteorically, like he's doing right now.
I understand everyone does it. But with the serious interviewer vibes you do you shouldn’t have nearly as many mid roll ads. It’s really distracting with such interesting conversation and people will skip no matter where you put them
I lived at the border from Canada to the US before 911 and I remember Crossing the forder with a birth registration card as a teenager without parents. The before and after 911 security was like night and day. People didn't think anything bad would happen.
Even until I think around 2010 we only needed a driver’s licence or other provincial ID if you were over a certain age. I just remember my first season of cheerleading we didn’t need much to go to the US for cheer camp and the second year we needed more, which could’ve been because the law changed or because I’d turned 18 by the second one.
I remember being in NATCO (Minneapolis), before 9/11, and seeing a notice on a bulletin board cautioning pilots / instructors to be alert for suspicious foreign students who were buying simulator lessons. They were suspicious because they did not seem to be actual pilots prepping for an interview or new job. And then 9/11 happened.
I spoke once on the phone with one of the ladies who processed foreign aviation students’ paperwork for a Florida flight training center. I'll never forget she told me "Some days I do it better than others" 😮😮 I didn't ask because I didn't have to, I could hear it in her voice.
@@vtrippz704 why are you confused? he is saying that the lady still has the ghosts of her past catch up to her as she processed the paperwork of what would be terrorist
i think it’s ridiculous that somebody who went through so much work and school to fly planes for civilians still has to work a second job to support themselves
Fun Fact: There was a Japan-Korean Flight incident where a group of Japanese Uni students hijacked a plane in 1970s or 1980s and tried to fly from Japan to North Korea (Pyongyang) But was fooled by South Korean Airport lmfao. If only Americans...nah; nevermind.
There’s nothing really “fun” or interesting about that fact, I guess it would be a “fun fact” to you but that’s not really something people here are going to say “wow” (and mean it) about.
@@TitaniumTurbineit’s true, nothing to brag or be proud about but I remember a lot of our neighbors were so afraid and even moving away from the area because of this terrorist. It was all over the newspapers the next few days about the hijackers home address being in paterson NJ; I remember there was a huge investigation in paterson the street where he lived was closed for days while FBI looked for information at his apartment Source: *I’m also an old veteran from paterson Nj.* 😅
@stevenphilip719 he said the fbi knew they had information there are some who are trying to infiltrate and get training but left hand wasn't talking to left hand, and they obviously had that rule for a reason. So really should've checked that out more. If even this guy and others felt something sketchy enough to call when they hadn't before that should've been red flag. These guys even said once they heard about 9/11 they asked each other if they thought it was this guy so he definitely stuck out in their minds.
I heard about this man. He was a flight instructor in Florida at the time. He had a lot of suspicions he tried to report, but was told it was OK. Don't worry about it!
At least he's got plenty of material to keep up an interesting discussion, but a few "Is that right"s or "oh really?"s or even "oh yeah?"s - instead of all the wows - would be a welcome change.
Those hijackers were all so young. The ringleader was only 31,33 years old. I was 20 on 9/11 and a lot of them were my age and all but three of the pilots were in their early 20s. The victims in NYC were mostly younger as well, at least half were under 30 years old.
This poor flight instructor. Trying to make the “foreign student” feel comfortable and being so nice out of his own kindness and integrity. Talk about the ultimate betrayal and con job. This gentleman reminds me of my dad-honest, good-natured, and decent. Makes me so angry that he was used in this way. Completely not his fault. Awful deception and pure evil.
yeah, Americans of his type are very mis used because they are way too nice to people they shouldn't be. They've been brought up to be decent and nice and then are taken advantage of by criminals and terrorists. And criminals and terrorists worldwide are very aware of this American tendency and utilize it. I always tell Americans, stop being so chummy to people you should not be so chummy with.
Just like many of those people on the Kibbutz in Israel. The people they brought into their homes and community, the people they helped were the ones that handed over details of their families, homes, children and pets.
Betrayal is a potent pill.
Sure dude
Malignant narcissists do this kind of thing all day, every day. They actually ENJOY duping others. There is actually a name for it, it's called "duping delight".
@@theoriginalopgood luck chuck i know pronounce you chuck and larry
This man is also a victim of 9/11. What an awful situation to be in ❤
This man can’t remember 💩 😂
@@TheKeithm1313 bruh dont make fun of 911
@@TheKeithm1313 Yeah it was 23 years ago
@@Christopher-11Cwdym "making fun of 911", making fun of HIM
How many times is he going to say, "I don't remember" i can understand someone teaching more than 50 students at a time to say I don't remember, regarding a particular question, but this guy doesn't know or don't remember much about this terrorist 🤔🙄
Rod thank you for your service as a military veteran. There’s no way you should feel guilty about anything you did or didn’t do. You absolutely did the right thing by submitting your red flag thoughts to the FAA. What more could you possibly have done? Your a great person & a great American
The biggest problem with Americans is they all have access to guns
Jesus Christ is coming soon believe in him for salvation to be saved and guaranteed heaven ❤
FAA saying “yeah no worries!” Is such a peak FAA response. If you’re involved in aviation you know what I mean
At the time there was no precedent of anything like that. However, it is interesting that the US must have been the easiest place to get this flight training.... or maybe just the cheapest.
Terrorism wasn’t the FAA’s issue.
Weird as it sounds, back then… now it is.
I met two of them… and yea, they were not normal as pilots.
@@thatguy7085TRADE TOWER
@@olliestudio45there was precedent. The FBI had intelligence on middle eastern people who are in flight schools that are possibly involved with terrorist organizations and possibly planning an attack involving airplanes. The problem is the FBI and all the government agencies didn’t talk to each other and that’s how things like this fell through the cracks.
I’m a private pilot and I see what you are saying. Especially back then. They screwed me up for doing a low pass over my own property in my super cub. Nothing came of it but I had to deal with their bullshit and not fly for over a month and it was all for nothing but they let shit like this get by as well as taking forever to catch up with idiots like Trevor Jacob. The faa now is all over everything in good ways and bad. Unfortunately just being suspicious does not constitute a crime and there is a fine line between being proactive and protecting people and violating rights
I love that Mark carved out a good amount of time to give this guy an actual interview. He didn't just treat him as "the guy who trained a 9/11 hijacker" but he also gave this man dignity by ending the interview with a good chunk of his personal stories of being a commercial pilot. Respect to Mark.
Jesus Christ is coming soon believe in him for salvation to be saved and guaranteed heaven ❤
Wow
"If you see something, say something." Americans speak up and say something. Government ignores them. Rinse and repeat.
Exactly 💯
Over and over again. Unless they have a gripe with you then they come down full force like ruby ridge. Or if you said something today they would call you a racist and say you're racially profiling.
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Alex jones said it was gonna happen before it even happened
Makes you wonder if the Gvt was in on it.
This man is the definition of a "innocent bystander". I do hope he knows within himself that he is not at fault for ANYTHING that commenced on 9/11. My heart goes to him. Bless you sir.
@@ramonacevedo356ya we all blame you
@@Berkmnn I accepted responsibility yrs ago,don't care what do on ur keyboard fool. Try to stay safe.
@@ramonacevedo356 I’m so sorry for your losses!
RED FLAG: If student taking flight lessons ONLY wants to learn to FLY JETLINER but not learn how to land that IS A HUGE RED FLAG. Obviously, there would be some reason why they are not needing to land. Odd, strange that student said he didn't need to learn how to land jet. 😢😢😢😢😢
@Elaine-p8t um... yes, you are correct that it would be a red flag. That's not the conversation correlating with my comment that you're responding to...
Mark this is the content we need, who ever deals with finding the guest's and getting them booked is a real boss, best guest by far
Bless you for not carrying thoughts of guilt.You have none. Open and honest. The FAA surely must have passed their concerns on .
yeah you know nothing about 9/11 then because they were our guys and they got what they needed from the CIA. Americans really don’t know what their own government does or know history kinda sad.
You a real one for this Mark. Gaining perspective is the reason podcasts exist.
Back in 2004, I was a teen going to Florida from Philly with my family. We just happened to be walking to the terminal at the same time as our pilot. We chatted with him, he was a very nice man. And during boarding he actually let my younger brother and I sit in the cockpit. We were super shocked considering 9/11 was only 3 years prior, and I have no idea if that was even allowed, but it was such a cool experience and those pictures we took still make me happy to look at 20 years later. I hope that pilot is well and living his best life.
We live in Philly and in 2006, the pilot opened the cockpit before takeoff and let my then 7 yo nephew see inside.
Yea, most airlines still allow that kinda thing on the ground
I don’t know when airlines officially stopped doing the whole take kids into the cockpit and give them flight wings thing but it would’ve been 2008 and I was flying for the very first time on an alternative spring break trip with a big group of college students and someone ended up flagging down the flight attendant to tell them it was my first time flying. It must have been before take off but they took me up to meet the pilot real quick and gave me the flight wings pin.
I’m drawing a blank right now on which airline it was- one of them that doesn’t even exist anymore, but yeah, that sort of thing seems to have still been allowed- or at least happened while the plane was still on the ground. I assume not every flight crew or airline was even allowing young adults up front but it’s kind of a bummer that they all have stopped that kind of thing. I’m pretty sure I still have those wings floating around somewhere. I love flying and will drive to airports to just watch planes take off and listen to music in the car when I need to de-stress or just go somewhere to think. Would love to learn to fly but one of those kind of far out dreams.
That is so sweet for your brother. My dad was a captain for United Airlines when I was growing up (1960-1985), a different era. When we vacationed my dad would bring us kids to the cockpit to meet the crew. That was special.
I flew only a few months ago, they still let two kiddos into the cockpit. But I believe as long as you’re still on the ground there’s no real danger involved-and usually it happenes during boarding when door etc are still open and stuff.
the flight school I went to in San Carlos CA. had one of these guys, he had faked log books, wasn't interested in landing and seemed real interested in the golden gate bridge and Ames research center. He didn't end up taking part in the attack but they caught him afterward
Why are you lying? What was the guy's name?
Great guest!! How has no one had him on anything before now?? Keep up the great work Mark and team G.
I am calling it now.. Mark will be the next top podcaster in the world in the next 5 years.
agreed 👍🏼
If he keeps it up its def a possibility
Mmhm
He’s already on another level
How do you figure? This guy is an absolutely trash interviewer. He doesn't ask the right questions, he asks questions that have already been asked. I've seen multiple videos of his and he's always boring to hear even when he has interesting people on. He can't hang with any interview.
They took off from Boston, I was 6 years old, in Maine on vacation, but from Massachusetts, the beach house we rented for vacation was about 20 minutes from where a couple of the terrorists took their on little vacation. I remember my grandparents calling my into the living room, explaining what happened, and I watched the news as the first tower burned, and the plane flew into the second tower. To this day it’s one of my first memories. I’ll never forget that day.
2 of the planes took off from Boston, Hani took off from Dulles in Virginia and U93 took off from Newark. Atta also flew from Portland Maine to Boston prior for a connecting flight.
Nothing nice to say, don't say anything.
As a pilot, this is a great interview. Breaking down complex aviation or legal stuff into bite sized pieces, love it. Mark is an underrated host
Wow
It is so crazy how we're all watching & listening to this man who was a part of history that changed the American way FOREVER!
My friend’s mom was supposed to start her first day of work that day in the WTC. However, she quit the job a day or 2 before because of a bad feeling she had. Crazy.
How do you quit a job before even starting it!! 🤣😆
@@troybrooks2066 you get hired, go through hiring process, then quit before showing up for first day. Any more questions?
Kinda like how do you get fired on your day off?
@@jamesstewart1794 At-Will Employment. That's how
Right... Lol
I swear the other day I thought to myself why has the world never heard from the instruments at the flight schools. So great timing with this. Thank you
There is a German private flight instructor that taught in Florida that has had plenty of interviews over the years, just gotta do some searching.
@@drizzhoI think he was dutch
Meh he sounds like a plant to take away from the suspicion of the government involvement....
@@natecote1971if you go into everything with your mind made up, you can twist anything to fit your narrative. Generally the most obvious explanation is the correct one.
@@natecote1971in fact my dad went to one of the flight schools they used in Arizona in the right period and knew of a suspicious Middle Eastern guy, who may or may not have been involved, so I know for a fact that a lot of what he said was true.
So great to hear from this guy! I feel like he has a lot of great stories from being a pilot. So sad he had to go through this and I hope he knows he’s in no way to blame. Great interviewer, I can’t wait to watch more
On 9/12 they had Logan airport shut down. I worked for a tow company that helped tow out all the cars because no one was allowed to go back in to get their cars. Took about 30 hours and at least 50 tow company’s to tow em all out.
I hear something new about 9/11 every time I go down this road!
I have no idea how I am just now discovering this podcast. I’m grateful this was in my recommended videos. Exactly my kind of content. 👍🙏😃
You have no idea how much I appreciate your channel Mark.
I’ve gotten tired of listening to varying opinions of the same trending topics from pods every week.
You’re a breath of fresh air!
Truly, thank you 🙏🏼
This dude seems like a genuine good dude and he seems like he has a lot to say and remember I’m shocked this is the first time I’ve seen anyone interview him .
Good find and episode !
Camp Gagnon has quickly become 1 of my fav channels.Always has such unique guests. Gnostic/Enoch expert, war scholar. Scientists, shamans, criminals etc. Now this. Mark’s the RUclipsr I never knew I needed
I agree. Great channel/podcast. Very unique compared to the rest that are out there
The fact they all came from Saudi Arabia still to this day needs more attention than received.... That ALONE lets you know our own government had more to do with than mentioned.... Because our government and the Saudis have a very close relationship... And we were made to believe that Afghan and Iraqi people were the REAL enemy, when NONE of the attackers were from there makes NO sense 😡
The more you get into the details, the more you'll realise how much america was involved in it...
@@alfaaz..9444please point out some of your main details involving the u.s ????
@@slimc7760 ah there r a million videos on it, go watch the documentaries... I ain't typing paragraphs here without giving you evidence... In simple words, america had nothing to lose and everything to gain with this event... And it was the only reason they wanted to attack middle East... And 9/11 doesn't make sense... Instead of arguing here, I suggest you watch some strong and good documentaries with credible sources... It's not very straightforward or simple, it's actually very very suspicious and complicated
Why would where they come from matters when what matters is what group they claimed? Honestly asking because it sounds like you're on some conspiracy bullshit
Not sure how old you are I was a senior in high school and this happened. The official investigation was the 9/11 Commission and there was something to do with when they released their findings there was 21 Pages fully redacted during the next about 10 years you would see this push of people protesting saying release the 21 pages there was certain politicians that would even say publicly those 21 pages should be released President Obama was supposed to release those during his campaign initially he said he was on board to getting Congress or whoever to release the 21st. From what I remember some stuff was released but also there were threats made by the Saudi government that if the 21 page is were fully released that they would immediately dump All American Financial assets that they had which would be not a good thing for us because in those 21 Pages it implicated members of the Saudi royal family and heavily implicated Saudi Arabia themselves being involved
I’m a flight student here in FL. I train out of Palm Beach County Park Airport. The hijackers went to Palm Beach Flight training. I train right next door at Airmax Aviation.
Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained in Venice and lived in Nokomis
Yeah, pretty sure it was Venice
My sister in law Jennifer Adams is a trainer in Palm Beach county!
Drives me crazy how good your pods are and yet your veiws so low. You just need to stay patient bro
He's actually good at interviewing. The popular podcasts are generally based on pop culture. A guy who taught flight sim to a terrorist isn't as a popular topic for the masses. People like us, sure. I love history. And I love war. (Not in a literal sense)
Needs to stop saying wow and 'got it' every other sentence. Its crazy annoying.
Mark your so great, look at me, look at me, give my comment a heart, everyone like my praises to Mark. You’re a top notch interviewer Mark. It drives me crazy that you don’t have a million subscribers Mark
@Greg_P611 your life must be a very sad, lonely life. Thinking that a person supporting someone whose content they enjoy is somehow interaction fishing. You will always have a shitty life and will always be jealous of positive comments because you have never received any. I hope you find God and some love in your heart
Too many ads
Should have asked him if he has seen Hanjour's flight path into the pentagon and if he believes that is possible especially knowing he could not pass the test he gave him?
Yes, that is exactly the question that should have been asked. Rod has all the expertise to be able to answer it.
my 7 year old could answer that.
He did, therefore, he could.
@@everseekerah you believe everything the government tells you?
@@TheSnowMan-cy9tu most people believe what the investigation and evidence revealed. It’s been over 20 years, there’s no government conspiracy just government ignorance which is a story as old as time
These flight instructors were ignored. Thousands of people died because of that. 😢😢
Bullshit. U can stretch this as far as u want, like did the taxi drivers also assist? The airport workers? Blablabla.
The biggest fuck up is when they failed to get an approval on searching Zacarias’s laptop.
@dareal5401 what a dumb fck response😂 they literally could've prevented this...
We don't need to dig any deeper, it's already common knowledge that all the Jewish workers recieved a phone call the day before 911 happened to tell them to stay away from the towers. We know that 5 Jewish tourists were arrested for waiting and cheering the crashing of the planes.
That’s not totally true. You can report suspicious behavior- but, this kid didn’t present suspicious behavior… or maybe the kid/ terrorist did exhibit suspicious behavior and this gentleman being interviewed didn’t pay enough attention to catch it … he’s saying that yes, the kid went through my training - he didn’t pass and this i wasn’t surprised … this guy is pretty non chalant about it all. It’s almost like it took a 9/11 to get his ( and everyone’s) attention. He barely remembers anything, it seems.
I remember being on a flight (before (9/11) and the cockpit door was open the whole flight. You could peer in and see all the lights and instruments.
I remember many flights pre 9/11 that the cockpit doors were wide open. In fact, nearly all were like this. Crazy to think about today
Same
I remember me and my mum were allowed to go in the cockpit and talk to the pilot etc. i think it was 1995. It was my first flight but my mum was nervous and one of the flight attendants thought she'd feel better going to see the pilot.
It's pretty sad too, because have you seen these hot young pilots?@
The amounts of ads RUclips is putting on these things now is just fucking ridiculous
Trying to get you to buy the ad-free version
It’s worth paying for premium for sure
u block origin for whatever browser u use
Pay $8/month and get no adds...
It’s up to uploader. They put how many adds will be on their videos when uploading.
This is the first time I heard another parent talk about their child watching cartoons and news breaking while their kids were watching TV. My daughter was 4, watching the cartoon “Arthur” on PBS as I listened from the bathroom getting ready for work. Suddenly I didn’t hear Arthur. I march out to the living room demanding to know where Arthur went. We both watched as the North Tower burnt, and then as Flight 175 flew into The South Tower.
28 minutres in and its like the interviewer isnt listening to anything the guy's saying, dude mans asking questions the interviewee already answered multiple times before.
I Applaud the frequency of upload!
Mark has the greatest range of interviews in the podcast game. It doesn’t matter who the guest is the episode is always incredible and engaging. Love you Mr Gags
Awesome video !!! However, this video should have been commercial free !!! This is important enough to warrant this !! Podcaster is excellent !!
asking him if he feels guilty is uncalled for and very rude.
Why? He was not offended by the question.
Calm down bozo your more offended by it then the guy himself
Totally agree
I’m just glad I’m here for the start of this podcast. You’re going far man
Disgusting how he and the other flight school owners/instructors were treated. Those agencies took their anger out on people that were victims as well.
Mark, Let the man talk, you’re so worried about asking a question you’re not listening to his answers and you ask him something he already answered! And the first 20 minutes this man must’ve said “like I said “about 25 times. Ask a question, listen to what he saying, let the man finish and then ask another another question!
Seems to me the man is more disruptive than the interviewer. He never lets him finish a gd question before he interjects. It's beyond annoying.
@@Hegstuffing I guess when someone keeps asking me the same question over and over and over it gets annoying after a while
I could listen to the two of you talk for 4 more hours and not be bored in the least.
"youre involvement" just doesnt seem likr a good choice of words. It makes it seem like he did something wrong.
I’ve waited a long time for this guy to be interviewed. I’m 5 minutes & im excited
I flew just 3 months after 9/11, moved to NYC 2 years later, tho I immigrated from Poland, 20 years later worked in the financial district for a few years. Proud to say we're New Yorkers, truly seen a shift in the landscape over the years and our city is stronger than ever through harsh times. This interview is a great way to give us new perspective of the past. 👍
New York is not stronger then ever their sitting ducks literally rite now if you still live their you might want to get out its been invaded
You left Poland? Poland is the only western country with decent common sense left. Hope you kept your citizenship and make it back there before you become just another NY statistic.
This was fascinating. I wish I could hear him tell me more stories from his life!
Great show good to hear stories from a long time pilot
No. He should NOT feel guilty. Very unfair and inappropriate question.
“The left hand didn’t talk to the right hand”……. Government wide.
I spent the summer in Boston with my children & we left for France 1 week before 9/11…was on Air France thankfully, but couldn’t help thinking of how we left from Logan airport & one week later, 2 planes were hijacked from there. I was so afraid for my twin brother who often took long hauls from Boston to L.A. for work. It was early afternoon our time when the tragedy occurred & I couldn’t get anyone in Boston on the phone. Lucky my brother sent me an email telling me that he was sick & at home. He lost two coworkers though on one of the flights. Never will forget that tragic day & think of all the people who were killed. We have been to NYC twice & visited the memorial & museum 😢
Grew up as a normal USA kid raised by my white mom. Met dad at 13 and learned he was Palestinian. Ever since then been wrestling with some self hate. He’s the most peaceful guy in the world and not at all what people told me middle easterners were like in school. Been Battling standard racism in personal life since a kid and am still just left with this feeling of not wanting being a Palestinian to be an alarm or bad thing. Not Islamic but I nothing but respect for it.
Dude people from the Middle East aren’t bad people even in Afghanistan over 95% of the country didn’t even fight against the United States when we invaded them. Most Muslims are very peaceful people but just like any religion you’ll have bad people just like now it is with Christians, Catholics,Jews, etc….
A easy way to compare radical Islam is like how in America we have Mormons yeah they have parts of the Christian religion but they tweak it and convince people that it’s the true word of god when it isn’t. There is nothing wrong being part middle eastern that’s like Germans not being prof they are German because of hitler in ww2
The middle east is a beautiful place that has been messed up by continuous political drama and blud shed. Learn and grow to appreciate your heritage because it runs incredibly deep (the origin of humanity), don't let the bs of the west taint your view.
I was a white homeless juvenile delinquent and was taken in by an Iranian family. 20 years later I was the best man at a wedding in their family. They were more American and normal than anything I had ever known. Don't fall for the propaganda. These people are not evil.
NGL, this is my perspective as an outsider(non-ME and non-US citizen) that the amount of brainwashing in the lands of the West is horrifying.
Please be proud of being Palestinian 🙏🙏🙏🙏 you have much more support than you realize
FAA agent investing in Halliburton: “Ehh… No worries!”
You really got to retire that whole “got it” thing. It’s an interview not a meeting with a Dr. before an exam.
Ok Karen.
This is a brilliant podcast! Great guy. I wish him all the best.
Mark really provided a therapeutical conversation to a man struck by jarring PTSD, I'd imagine. At the same time, providing the viewer with very rare insights. Looking forward to Mark growing meteorically, like he's doing right now.
He doesn't seem to have PTSD at all
According to 911 report FBI agent wrote of men just wanting to fly plane in Minneapolis and report sat on desk of her boss.
This is legit my favorite podcast now... took old Joe Rogans template, actual interesting shit
was seeing that too, old Rogan style.
Rogan? No BS MMA stories or friend that killed a brown bear or one of Joes unfunny comedic observations.
@@tw364 old Rogan not sassy populist new rogan
They knew from soo many people and angles... They didn't listen, didn't stop it, did nothing.
I’m at work right now but can’t wait to listen to this on the drive home … Thanks Camp
Awesome guest awesome interview. Cut back on the commercials please
These in ad reads an Regular ads are outrageous
Great interview I just can’t stop noticing every time he said “like I said” lol
I understand everyone does it. But with the serious interviewer vibes you do you shouldn’t have nearly as many mid roll ads. It’s really distracting with such interesting conversation and people will skip no matter where you put them
How else do you think he pays his bills?!? He gets his paycheck by reading ads…
Not a single person should blame him in any way this man was just doing his job
Mark you really know how to keep them talking and ask such intelligent questions. Keep up the awesome work!
Honestly bro, you making your own pod on such wide different topics is so awesome!
I lived at the border from Canada to the US before 911 and I remember Crossing the forder with a birth registration card as a teenager without parents. The before and after 911 security was like night and day. People didn't think anything bad would happen.
Even until I think around 2010 we only needed a driver’s licence or other provincial ID if you were over a certain age. I just remember my first season of cheerleading we didn’t need much to go to the US for cheer camp and the second year we needed more, which could’ve been because the law changed or because I’d turned 18 by the second one.
@@melissastory1993 yeah I'm not sure how fast it changed
Solid podcast, it’s awesome to hear about major events from a different perspective. Keep it up🙌🏼
No glaze, your podcast is the best
Glaze has too much sugar, frosting isn’t much better.
I remember being in NATCO (Minneapolis), before 9/11, and seeing a notice on a bulletin board cautioning pilots / instructors to be alert for suspicious foreign students who were buying simulator lessons. They were suspicious because they did not seem to be actual pilots prepping for an interview or new job.
And then 9/11 happened.
I was a copilot at ATA Airlines, just doing annual recurrency training when I saw that notice pinned to the board.
I spoke once on the phone with one of the ladies who processed foreign aviation students’ paperwork for a Florida flight training center. I'll never forget she told me "Some days I do it better than others" 😮😮 I didn't ask because I didn't have to, I could hear it in her voice.
Im confused
@@vtrippz704 why are you confused? he is saying that the lady still has the ghosts of her past catch up to her as she processed the paperwork of what would be terrorist
@@rohan-ghosh idk how you figured that out, all he said is he spoke to lady who processed paper work
@@vtrippz704 its implied dude
Do what exactly ? Is she saying some days are better than others, and put the “it” by accident….
Incredible choice of guest my friend, you are blowing up rn!!
i think it’s ridiculous that somebody who went through so much work and school to fly planes for civilians still has to work a second job to support themselves
Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
Whistle Blowers better be protected, great work Mark!
Fun Fact: There was a Japan-Korean Flight incident where a group of Japanese Uni students hijacked a plane in 1970s or 1980s and tried to fly from Japan to North Korea (Pyongyang) But was fooled by South Korean Airport lmfao.
If only Americans...nah; nevermind.
I saw all the "got it" and didn't fully understand. After watching 3 minutes....I GOT IT!!!
Nothing but banger from mark lately !
The hard work Mark is putting into not only his channel, but additionally Flagrant, is for sure showing 🙌🏻
Couldn’t make it through the episode, advertisements every 3 minutes is wild.
Bros content is amazing , the guest and topics are ELITE
Are there more kernels of popcorn in a bag of Orville Redenbacher's Microwave Popcorn or, "wows" said by the host of this video?
Wow 😮
Fun Fact: One of the hijackers lived in paterson nj just a few blocks away from me on Union Ave in 1999-2001
fun fact. 9/11 was an inside job, and this interview helps confirm it.
What other "fun facts" do you have mister 🧐
There’s nothing really “fun” or interesting about that fact, I guess it would be a “fun fact” to you but that’s not really something people here are going to say “wow” (and mean it) about.
@@TitaniumTurbineit’s true, nothing to brag or be proud about but I remember a lot of our neighbors were so afraid and even moving away from the area because of this terrorist. It was all over the newspapers the next few days about the hijackers home address being in paterson NJ; I remember there was a huge investigation in paterson the street where he lived was closed for days while FBI looked for information at his apartment
Source: *I’m also an old veteran from paterson Nj.* 😅
@TitaniumTurbine you woke up on the wrong side of the sheets today holmes
Americans are constantly told to be nice and not to have any prejudice toward anyone. The terrorists just used this good man's hospitality.
I will NEVER approach a celebrity. I have only run into two, in my lifetime, and I ignored them both.
@@C3POSkywalkerR2D2 Wow that's pretty cool!
@@C3POSkywalkerR2D2tell anymore interesting stories about anyone you met? Loved hearing about Ashton and rodman...
This episode is brought to you by, you know, the word “wow” or whatever…
This is amazing info people have been waiting for!
if being English proficient was a requirement, this dude should have been booted out and his money refused from the get go.
cash is king. and back then it was not on the radar that this was going to happen??? according to the Fbi. cia. and any body responsible
@stevenphilip719 he said the fbi knew they had information there are some who are trying to infiltrate and get training but left hand wasn't talking to left hand, and they obviously had that rule for a reason. So really should've checked that out more.
If even this guy and others felt something sketchy enough to call when they hadn't before that should've been red flag.
These guys even said once they heard about 9/11 they asked each other if they thought it was this guy so he definitely stuck out in their minds.
@@ScottishAnnie that is why i put ??? after i said they didnt think it was possible
@@stevenphilip719it doesn't say didn't think it was possible only that it was not on their radar.
It sounded like it was already stated on his license or paperwork or something
I remember when I was younger my family took me to Disneyland and on the flight over the pilot took me into the cockpit
Fantastic interviewer. Never seen him before but was glued to the story
I heard about this man. He was a flight instructor in Florida at the time. He had a lot of suspicions he tried to report, but was told it was OK. Don't worry about it!
Loved this interview, he was fascinating!
Did you put enough adverts in?
Interesting how he got into the country through a CIA front consulate in Saudi and didn't provide the necessary information on the form 🤔
Mark every 3 seconds: “…Wow”.
At least he's got plenty of material to keep up an interesting discussion, but a few "Is that right"s or "oh really?"s or even "oh yeah?"s - instead of all the wows - would be a welcome change.
@@lisaa8795 I agree .... there's got to be another word besides ....'Wow'.
If It was a drinking game I'd be drunk.
And 'got it'. Once you hear it you cant go back :-/
Chill he’s French Canadian
Excellent interview
the amount of youtube ads in this video is insane
Those hijackers were all so young. The ringleader was only 31,33 years old. I was 20 on 9/11 and a lot of them were my age and all but three of the pilots were in their early 20s. The victims in NYC were mostly younger as well, at least half were under 30 years old.
I have never seen a RUclipsr "interrupt" the video mid-sentence (especially a guest on your podcast) to show a sponsor ad. Extremely distasteful IMO.
“Kinda tragic piece of history”?…. “Kinda”? Ppl are STILL dealing with ptsd from that day. I would say kinda tragic, doesn’t even scratch the surface.
Holy shit!!! What a find!!!