This video felt a little different to create. Taking a look at a teams overall approach across multiple maps, not just analysing a single map or stratergy. Let me know what you guys think compared to my "regular" content.
@@kudopengi6334 launders is dope but he focusses more on individual play strategies, ie perspective of a player. Elmapuddy focuses more on team play and strategic synergy, ie perspective of a coach.
this was hard to watch. good concept for a video but gambit had better fundamentals. every single member of astralis took a bad duel and got punished for it. none of them had positional advantage, yet they peeked. peeking with teammates isn’t enough when there is a player to hold each angle. they played passive and didn’t flash on the repeek despite having flashes. when aim is at the highest level you need advantage on a duel.
Fam you can make whatever type of content you want. Watching you analyse pro matches/teams is so damn interesting that the only thing I'd wish was that you'd upload more often
Had a thought. It'd be really awesome if you listed the demos used in the description. I sometimes see a nade line-up or setup I think is cool and want to take into my own team, so easily being able to find the demo would be aces. Doesn't have to be in order or anything, just when and at what tournament.
It is great to get these analysis videos again. Could you do something about liquid and how Fallen has changed their playstyle? Thanks for these videos and i am hoping for more :)
Video idea: Compare Astralis today with Astralis at DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018, might be opinion not based off facts because I haven't looked into the games that deeply but I think they were at their peak that tournament, pretty sure that was the tournament they started using nade stacks etc, to me it feels like they got lazy because many top teams were unstable the next year or two allowing them to dominate while gradually getting worse and worse, while still being top 1 because they were far ahead of anyone else.
As I always say, they are still the best at team structure being very ahead of the closest one, their strategies are also very good but their individuals, oh boy... If they had the same aims as the gambit, nobody could ever take double digits from them just like their 2018 form.
@@JW-rm3ci that’s not the point, the hand position is client-side, the stance of the model is the same for everyone, and is the stance of a right-handed operator. If you watch some older Warowl or Trilluxe videos you can find explanations on the “corner geometry/sight lines” that is very important to keep in mind when playing.
Astralis is playing like Phil Helmuth in Online poker. They play really good CS but online CS is like pubs people are playing with confidence than usual so teams are much more confident in their peeks and plays. Unlike Astralis.
True thats why the CIS is taking over, full of Rookies lead by a few veterans . once LAN hit again i dont think they can be the same confidence as before
The only thing I can think when I see the date when this was released is "and just a few days later device left Astralis". I think that's going to have a big impact on how they'll evolve from now on.
The main problem for astralis is their individual skills as device and dupreeh are the only ones putting up the numbers so far this year. The rest of the team are just deadweights. gla1ve and xyp took breaks for too long until they forget how to aim and shoot while Magisk couldn’t find his 2018/19 form after returning to his original role as he had to igl when gla1ve took his break. Last but not least, Bubzkji should just leave astralis for the sake of his career.
Another great video! loved this approach! just continue doing what you enjoy and are interested in! if you find yourself curious, make the video! we're just here for the trip
I noticed on the first round shown your video about the m4s being on helmets and the mp9s being on none helmets didn't happen. Either a mistake was made or your theory was wrong
Ngl I started watching Esport matches back when I was around Silver 4 and my peak hype was when fnatic won most majors and fnatic, nip and ldlc were on top. I pretty much stopped paying attention when sk gaming took over. I really really loved fnatics playstile back then. Aggressive. Unpredictable. And sometimes so crazy and risky but yet it worked. That was special. Nowadays it's mostly the same routine stuff. Also I feel like pros make way more mistakes. 80% of what I see in pro matches (except coordinated executes :D) could literally be me (now I'm at 5k+ hours) in a good MM or faceit match of mine. I feel like especially Astralis misses a lot of "easy" kills. They fail sprays, peek weird, etc.
I don't think that the aim is worse. I just think it's not that easy anymore to do insane 4-5K rounds because the teams are way better with trades, nades and not peeking silly. The sick gambit 3k you saw in the video is one of the very rare examples where you see players peek alone. Just look hat the first A hit on overpass you see in the video. Just how Astralis is peeking at the exact perfect moments. This is basic stuff they do not crazy strats and yet it fascinates me. Just look on the plays from back in the days where you think someone had crisp aim and ask yourself if that play maybe only was possible because of bad enemies. It also depends on the team you watch for crisp aim. Astralis problem atm is in my opinion that they don't have the aim for top 5 CS. But if you look at Simple, Zywoo, Shiro, Cadian to just name the famous examples you'll see good aim. If you think modern CS is "boring" then thats because you don't look into the details. I mean CS is a pretty old Game right now so they have established some rules right now. I mean football is not boring because they always play with 4 defenders and chess is not boring because you always start with e5. You have to look at the small things, at the strats and the reactions of the teams. That's why I follow this channel, because I like how the Creator shows us the small details that teams use to get advanteges. Sometimes only one flash at the perfect moment can make the difference. Look at the double nadenat popdog on train he talked us through in the last video. If you dont like tactical stuff then I think Cs is just not your game. You could watch Valorant where crazy stuff happens on the server because everything is new and nobody knows what he is doing. You might even see crazy frag movies in that game again. And in 4-5 years, when you'll say again that everything became boring I'll come over to watch good tactical shooter gameplay :D
@@herrsteinpilz9823 Yeah especially when it comes to players playing off of each other. I feel like fnatic back then were one of the handful of teams effectively trading every single fight they took. Nowadays every top 20 team does this every single time.
The online era of CS is not showing the true skill and mentality to keep your composure and perform. Remember when Astralis skipped all the T2 and some T1 tournaments in 2019 letting TL getting the #1 spot? When they went in the majors, they 2-0'd everybody and 3-0'd in all the finals including TL. They ended 2019 as #1 and ended 2020 as #1 again despite online CS. Astralis is yet to drop a map in a major since 2018. When the LAN comes up again all the online top teams will fail trust me. It's easy to sit home and play very comfortably and perform. Astralis live off of playing on the big stages where hundred of thousands watch and the nerves needs to be calmed down. I don't think the CIS teams will be able to keep their form on LAN. Just watch the T1 teams as TL, Navi, Vitality, Astralis etc. fails big time in online.
This video felt a little different to create. Taking a look at a teams overall approach across multiple maps, not just analysing a single map or stratergy.
Let me know what you guys think compared to my "regular" content.
This was awesome, keep it up
Liked it, I'd see more of these concept.
Awesome video
It's different, but harder to apply to my own games as I don't have a team
liked it
Astralis playing full defaults until they bring out the 200 page stratbook next major.
Once you see the book,you lose
Imagine this year's major glaive brings out a missive physical strat book when astralis enter
bigger than Bilbe
@@K1KO1337 the bible 2
haven't seen glaive's death note for a while
They're lulling teams into a false sense of security while they are actually playing 4d chess and preparing for the PGL major
Astralis only cares about majors, they know everyone will forget every loss along the way if they win a 5th goddamn major
I don't like to expect this out of people who were on the bench for so long. You might be right though.
Doesn't mean the other teams are bad tho
You sure about that lmao.
Yea and device leaves lol
The GOAT of analyzing CS.
@That boi this man and hawka are entertaining af
@That boi yes i have, i subbed to him when he was just starting his youtube. Also mahone_tv is incredible.
@@MrJellyCS launders is dope too
@@kudopengi6334 launders is dope but he focusses more on individual play strategies, ie perspective of a player. Elmapuddy focuses more on team play and strategic synergy, ie perspective of a coach.
this was hard to watch. good concept for a video but gambit had better fundamentals. every single member of astralis took a bad duel and got punished for it. none of them had positional advantage, yet they peeked. peeking with teammates isn’t enough when there is a player to hold each angle. they played passive and didn’t flash on the repeek despite having flashes. when aim is at the highest level you need advantage on a duel.
I don't think they'll go above and beyond until LAN. No team has been able to stay on top in online era, where every tournament must feel the same.
Fam you can make whatever type of content you want. Watching you analyse pro matches/teams is so damn interesting that the only thing I'd wish was that you'd upload more often
agree 100%
Elmapuddy: "guess who's back, back again?"
Elma's back, tell a friend.
Had a thought. It'd be really awesome if you listed the demos used in the description. I sometimes see a nade line-up or setup I think is cool and want to take into my own team, so easily being able to find the demo would be aces. Doesn't have to be in order or anything, just when and at what tournament.
i watched this today in the morning. it did not age well.
at all.
That was painfull :'( Though I keep believing that the return of lans will be the return of a dominating Astralis.
It is great to get these analysis videos again. Could you do something about liquid and how Fallen has changed their playstyle? Thanks for these videos and i am hoping for more :)
Yay, new video! Yay, its Astralis!
Video idea: Compare Astralis today with Astralis at DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018, might be opinion not based off facts because I haven't looked into the games that deeply but I think they were at their peak that tournament, pretty sure that was the tournament they started using nade stacks etc, to me it feels like they got lazy because many top teams were unstable the next year or two allowing them to dominate while gradually getting worse and worse, while still being top 1 because they were far ahead of anyone else.
As I always say, they are still the best at team structure being very ahead of the closest one, their strategies are also very good but their individuals, oh boy... If they had the same aims as the gambit, nobody could ever take double digits from them just like their 2018 form.
Loving your return you make cs far more interesting than just clicking heads.
nice to hear from you again sorry in what happened to geng and c9 :( btw the discord link doesn't work anymore :(
In that arches play, I feel Glaive should've hugged the right wall instead of keeping with the push? considering left shoulder visible first and all
He might have a toggle cl_righthand 0 1 bind.
@@JW-rm3ci that’s not the point, the hand position is client-side, the stance of the model is the same for everyone, and is the stance of a right-handed operator.
If you watch some older Warowl or Trilluxe videos you can find explanations on the “corner geometry/sight lines” that is very important to keep in mind when playing.
Astralis is playing like Phil Helmuth in Online poker. They play really good CS but online CS is like pubs people are playing with confidence than usual so teams are much more confident in their peeks and plays. Unlike Astralis.
True thats why the CIS is taking over, full of Rookies lead by a few veterans . once LAN hit again i dont think they can be the same confidence as before
lmao here now after NiP devve
The only thing I can think when I see the date when this was released is "and just a few days later device left Astralis".
I think that's going to have a big impact on how they'll evolve from now on.
Very good video, super interesting and amazing analysis. 10/10, go be on an analysis desk for an event pls
Thank you for another new video! Keep them coming!!!
Finally a good analyst and not these other ones always searching just the bad
device said: lol
Never thought that 5 days later device will left astralis.
The main problem for astralis is their individual skills as device and dupreeh are the only ones putting up the numbers so far this year. The rest of the team are just deadweights. gla1ve and xyp took breaks for too long until they forget how to aim and shoot while Magisk couldn’t find his 2018/19 form after returning to his original role as he had to igl when gla1ve took his break.
Last but not least, Bubzkji should just leave astralis for the sake of his career.
New vid, POG
9:22 Yeah, about that...
nice voice crack 5:08 xD
Why are people not even affected there? Hahaha it's hilarious, nice video obviously but why not cut it hahaha.
Well, now dev1ce is going to Nip :O
The basics of trading! I wish I would have teammates do that and I would always do that 😁
Another great video! loved this approach! just continue doing what you enjoy and are interested in! if you find yourself curious, make the video! we're just here for the trip
Do you think they’re only playing basic fundamental cs to save the gimmicks for the major?
Love your vids!!
I noticed on the first round shown your video about the m4s being on helmets and the mp9s being on none helmets didn't happen. Either a mistake was made or your theory was wrong
Faster than Ferrari peak
i hope it's not 2020 ferrari
Feels weird seeing astralis crumble....
could also be playing simple CS because of a lack of prac, preventing burnout or because changes are coming to the roster
Glave needs to watch this 👍
He's the best IGL out there, so he definitely knows this. He's probably just strat-saving for the major.
ELMAPUDDY LETS GOOOOO
it happenned to atleast 10 times
Device and Dupreeh are their only players' that can consistently perform right now, xyp looks terrible
The pure aimer love this era
Xyp isn't looking too hot right now I agree, but his stats are kind of deflated due to the supportive role that he plays within the team
@@X3rCobraz it's not the stats, he can't shoot straight anymore
Well, this is kinda weird now....
They better perform at the major if this form keeps up or they will fade away
It feels wierd to watch thit Video now...
my eyemeter tells me that they are lacking teams plays, like the infierno 5v2, not a single teams play
rip
this didn't age well
Well.. device 🥺
Looks like device left astralis
Ngl I started watching Esport matches back when I was around Silver 4 and my peak hype was when fnatic won most majors and fnatic, nip and ldlc were on top.
I pretty much stopped paying attention when sk gaming took over.
I really really loved fnatics playstile back then. Aggressive. Unpredictable. And sometimes so crazy and risky but yet it worked.
That was special.
Nowadays it's mostly the same routine stuff.
Also I feel like pros make way more mistakes. 80% of what I see in pro matches (except coordinated executes :D) could literally be me (now I'm at 5k+ hours) in a good MM or faceit match of mine.
I feel like especially Astralis misses a lot of "easy" kills. They fail sprays, peek weird, etc.
Yeah u have no idea the pro play rn is way better than back then
@@herrsteinpilz9823 yeah. Technically yes. But it's pretty much all the same. That makes it boring quick.
Also I feel like aim was better back then.
this comment is so bad
I don't think that the aim is worse. I just think it's not that easy anymore to do insane 4-5K rounds because the teams are way better with trades, nades and not peeking silly. The sick gambit 3k you saw in the video is one of the very rare examples where you see players peek alone. Just look hat the first A hit on overpass you see in the video. Just how Astralis is peeking at the exact perfect moments. This is basic stuff they do not crazy strats and yet it fascinates me.
Just look on the plays from back in the days where you think someone had crisp aim and ask yourself if that play maybe only was possible because of bad enemies.
It also depends on the team you watch for crisp aim. Astralis problem atm is in my opinion that they don't have the aim for top 5 CS. But if you look at Simple, Zywoo, Shiro, Cadian to just name the famous examples you'll see good aim.
If you think modern CS is "boring" then thats because you don't look into the details. I mean CS is a pretty old Game right now so they have established some rules right now. I mean football is not boring because they always play with 4 defenders and chess is not boring because you always start with e5. You have to look at the small things, at the strats and the reactions of the teams. That's why I follow this channel, because I like how the Creator shows us the small details that teams use to get advanteges. Sometimes only one flash at the perfect moment can make the difference. Look at the double nadenat popdog on train he talked us through in the last video. If you dont like tactical stuff then I think Cs is just not your game.
You could watch Valorant where crazy stuff happens on the server because everything is new and nobody knows what he is doing. You might even see crazy frag movies in that game again. And in 4-5 years, when you'll say again that everything became boring I'll come over to watch good tactical shooter gameplay :D
@@herrsteinpilz9823 Yeah especially when it comes to players playing off of each other.
I feel like fnatic back then were one of the handful of teams effectively trading every single fight they took.
Nowadays every top 20 team does this every single time.
Astralis are 16-0ing teams before 2020-2021 and now they get 16-0'd in 2021
sad looking back
im speechless. devve left astralis.
The aiming is failing them
What I really find funny is that all of you CS youtubers who get sponsors from these demo analyzers NEVER USE EM 😂.
Yeah ， and it is 0nly Fundamentals
See ya device
Well that thumbnail didn’t age well
I comment to help statistics
if you think astralis had better fundamentals, you aren’t aware of all the fundamentals.
hello
yeah let's keep things s1mple
Lesgoooo
Never clicked so fast lol
analyse about gambit members plz 🤤
No more dev1ce
this did not age well
The online era of CS is not showing the true skill and mentality to keep your composure and perform. Remember when Astralis skipped all the T2 and some T1 tournaments in 2019 letting TL getting the #1 spot? When they went in the majors, they 2-0'd everybody and 3-0'd in all the finals including TL. They ended 2019 as #1 and ended 2020 as #1 again despite online CS. Astralis is yet to drop a map in a major since 2018. When the LAN comes up again all the online top teams will fail trust me. It's easy to sit home and play very comfortably and perform. Astralis live off of playing on the big stages where hundred of thousands watch and the nerves needs to be calmed down. I don't think the CIS teams will be able to keep their form on LAN. Just watch the T1 teams as TL, Navi, Vitality, Astralis etc. fails big time in online.
This didnt age well
Glaive used white skins, that's why
Keeping it simple by not having their best player lol
What a terrible timing.
Tragic