A1466 820-00165 repair attempt - Any MacBook experts here? Missing PM_SLP_S4_L

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Комментарии • 84

  • @eldjoesther643
    @eldjoesther643 Год назад +2

    a big thank you for these beautiful videos and good practice that you teach us. 🙏

  • @GurjVirdee
    @GurjVirdee Год назад +1

    Sorin I love your workshops, the way you communicate with the audience and share your skills and Tea Time. It's really nice and humble of you. Much respect to you.

  • @justinc9991
    @justinc9991 Год назад +25

    Sorin, first you need to be sure there no corrosion unde smc chip. Most of the pm_slp signals come from there. Also you need to check the rtc ic, as far as i remember i saw you were cleaning that area. Corrosion there will cause the board to not start. Another thing you need to make sure, the smc is up and running (ppbus_g3h) is higher when smc is up and running.

    • @inwerp
      @inwerp Год назад +1

      Technically it is PCH who sets slp above s5 level. Smc only pulls them during init so they wont float high before pch power controller is initialized.

  • @jadaojaz8882
    @jadaojaz8882 Год назад +4

    8.1V on ppbus_g3h is low, it means no communication with smc Reball or replace SMC, it should be 8.6V. Before reball/replace smc, check SMC_RESET_L resistor goes often bad, check also SMC_ONOFF_L and make sure PP3V42_G3H is making its way to smc. If you want to go the systematic crazy way, you can check the 11 prerequesite for PM_SLP_S4_L to be delivered (11 signals/power rails), just google that you will find it in the wiki repair. This will give you 100% a clue and you will know what is happening :)

  • @brightoncom
    @brightoncom Год назад +1

    Hi Sorin. You have to connect DCin Board with flex cable to power on.

  • @als1035
    @als1035 Год назад +6

    Before you give up, you should should try using a genuine Apple MagSafe 2 45w power adapter. Without doing this can give you unpredictable results with PM_SLP_S4_L.

  • @hirthbenedek
    @hirthbenedek Год назад +13

    The voltage on the main power rail was 8.1 volts. That means, that the smc is not running. Check voltage and short on the smc reset pin with the help of schematics. If there is no other component affecting it, it's probably the smc. You can try reflowing, reballing, maybe a bad connection. If it's still not working, you can try replacing, if it's worth it.

    • @darrenstrathdee7425
      @darrenstrathdee7425 Год назад +2

      You are correct. Smc boosts it to 8.6 if my memory serves me correct

    • @kpjVideo
      @kpjVideo Год назад

      Agreed

    • @dirzzleme01
      @dirzzleme01 Год назад +1

      If I recall from Luis's videos, the main power rail on MacBook Air is about 8 volts. Maybe 8.4. Could be wrong, but it is worth checking.

    • @fichambawelby2632
      @fichambawelby2632 Год назад

      @@darrenstrathdee7425 exactly

  • @f1lab535
    @f1lab535 Год назад +2

    go through the startup sequence on the schematics and stop on the missign signal...
    you said that the power good signal comes on and goes off, is it reaching its destination?
    if its reaching its destination what is triggered after that?
    reball smc?
    check oscilator aeria with osciloscope.
    how much amps is the cpu consuming on your board and on the customer's board?
    you have a spare cpu in front of you :pppp, replace it haha
    or send all the parts back to your board and replace the bad smc
    check if its a bios issue.

  • @carlosgarciaoropeza5480
    @carlosgarciaoropeza5480 Год назад +1

    Everything seems to indicate that the voltage (8.1V) of the PPBus_G3H power rail and all its related (associated) circuitry should normally be 8.6V but I still find myself in the beginner's lessons to "decipher" the schematic diagrams about "apple stuff" that I "like" so much (personally me). All the best.

  • @David5467
    @David5467 Год назад

    Hi Sorin. Take that long jumper off. In this case you should use the board view to work out where that track goes. power on for one second and then goes off is the bios starting detecting a short and turning off,

  • @radminas2739
    @radminas2739 Год назад

    I had a similar problem on my IBM Thinkpad. The reason was a faulty power supply of the CPU.

  • @darrenstrathdee7425
    @darrenstrathdee7425 Год назад +2

    The issue is SMC. Check resistors around smc also and clock.

    • @darrenstrathdee7425
      @darrenstrathdee7425 Год назад +2

      REMEMBER: SMC is not on if PPBUS_G3H is 8.15v instead of 8.55v(SMC needs to communicate with U7100 to tell it over SMBUS line to raise PPBUS_G3H from 8.15v to 8.55v).
      Magsafe LED is OFF when battery is connected and no charging, but green/orange light and normal boot from charger when battery is disconnected. Resolved by replacing Q7180 transistor.

  • @petertiberiust3171
    @petertiberiust3171 Год назад +3

    10ohm CPU good ....have you ultra-soniced it yet ......green underneath SMC. I will usually remove glue around SMC and then use microscope to view underside edges

  • @samsscia
    @samsscia Год назад +6

    in those 3 hours you could have repaired 4 to 5 non apple laptops. You'd be relaxed with money in the pocket and a drink in your hand. I don't repair apple, products, I like green, red , blue or brown circuit boards. I know it sounds juvenile, But apple looks like someone went crazy with black spray paint. Have a great weekend,

    • @Swenser
      @Swenser Год назад

      I have been told that black stuff is moisture attraction and corrosion growing material designed by very smart engineers. Not sure if that is true.

    • @electronicsrepairschool
      @electronicsrepairschool  Год назад

      Thank you!

  • @arsayu
    @arsayu Год назад +2

    You need to connect dc board with flex cable to mbr too

  • @user-un6we3nu3q
    @user-un6we3nu3q Год назад +2

    try to check with thermal camera maybe something shorted

  • @1080pixel
    @1080pixel Год назад

    Got exactly the same model for repair here - unfortunately not the same fault: Fan's spinning, shutting down in a loop. Any suggestions?

  • @MrRvdbeek
    @MrRvdbeek Год назад

    Before you remove those resistors what is the resistance 15 or also 10ohm?
    M2014 15" MBP iGPU i7-4770HQ: 10Ω, 15Ω
    M2014 15" MBP dGPU i7-4870HQ: 15Ω

  • @margingalaxy9826
    @margingalaxy9826 Год назад

    Nice to see you with a1466

  • @danielrock3119
    @danielrock3119 Год назад +3

    when testing again you did'nt put the flex cable from the dcin board to the logic board

  • @ronlevin2339
    @ronlevin2339 Год назад

    Can you inject 1V to the coil CPU and check if it is heated in one spot (dead) or the whole CPU is heated up ?
    Can it just be MacBook stacked in the DFU mode ?

  • @radminas2739
    @radminas2739 Год назад +1

    Why not to remove coils or current sense resistor from the circuit of CPU power supply and measure resistance on both directions (CPU and power supply)?

  • @bmsfx
    @bmsfx Год назад +1

    A1466 working second hand here is roughly 90-100£, depending on CPU, a bit more, but cant spend many minutes working on that one before it would be cheaper to buy a working second hand :P

  • @uricohen5463
    @uricohen5463 Год назад

    hello sir how do you record all your camera and microscope also , do you use a device to connect all the cams , what cams you use

  • @jozsiolah1435
    @jozsiolah1435 Год назад

    I have an iphone, didn’t charge well. I fixed a power bank with a Samsung phone, to start lightning charging. Then I connected the iphone with a lightning cable to the supported power bank. After some charges, the normal cable started to fix the battery, supporting 5.1 v, and 4.9 v charging at 1 A. Could be the same with Apple laptops. The best could be to first charge up the battery separately, after it’s done, in most cases charging will start. If the customer is on blacklist, his devices will be stopped with a satellite, even the charging.

  • @labibleatarilesitedesatari6724
    @labibleatarilesitedesatari6724 Год назад +2

    Is your reset smc signal ok ?

  • @DanielsGameVault
    @DanielsGameVault Год назад +6

    You should do a collab with Louis Rossmann :D

    • @GurjVirdee
      @GurjVirdee Год назад +3

      Louis is good, but he's very egotistical.

    • @DanielsGameVault
      @DanielsGameVault Год назад +3

      Sadly so, especially now that his business is fully grown. I used to like his humble beginnings better...

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 Год назад +1

      @@GurjVirdee When you're that good, very difficult not to be. Sometimes there seems such a huge gulf between him & the regular repair guys

    • @GurjVirdee
      @GurjVirdee Год назад

      @@daffyduk77 maybe so. But no need for anyone to be like that. I class them as pricks, regardless of skill or education. There's always someone better out there.

    • @daffyduk77
      @daffyduk77 Год назад +1

      @@GurjVirdee I hear what you say. Someone like Rossmann is going to encounter people who are better than him at the tech/repair side only *very* rarely. In the words of one of my fave rock lyricists , "the wise men don't know how it feels ... to be thick as a brick"

  • @kaspark8826
    @kaspark8826 3 месяца назад

    Hello Sorin,
    Did you sorted out the issue? Having exactly the same problem.

  • @johnathanasiou9284
    @johnathanasiou9284 Год назад

    Somethings up with the SMC & I wouldn't be surprised if there's corrosion under it.
    Check out Piernov's amazing Mac repair notes under Repair Wiki, LogiWiki & Badcaps for awesome tips

  • @SONNYemc
    @SONNYemc Год назад +2

    Louis Rossman is your guy

  • @jesuschal3802
    @jesuschal3802 Год назад +6

    You need a micro polishing pen to scratch those small surfaces

  • @fichambawelby2632
    @fichambawelby2632 Год назад +1

    Agreed with Justin C, Sorin. Ten ohms per CPU rail is normal, not shorted. But in this Macs, PPBUS_G3H is very important. So, as he said, prepare yourself for an SMC removal and reballing (maybe you are having corrosion there, below the SMC). By the other side, if you need to check if you have any light in the charger, the flat cable must be connected between power board and main board (essential if you need to have green/orange light). And BTW check if you have clock signal in clock IC and its termination resistors. Also try to use (if you are able to) another power board, with an original Apple charger. Let us know.

  • @electronicsolution2384
    @electronicsolution2384 Год назад

    I guess if I post a link it will delete it? well, I tried to post about the PM_SLP_S4_L signal which must be present But first, you should reball that SMC, any corrosion or spec of dust from the existing problem could cause it to stop working

  • @laptopDoctorKZN
    @laptopDoctorKZN Год назад

    Hi sorin. I had same problem. It was a shorted cap by the usb port.

  • @SinsBird
    @SinsBird Год назад

    Have you checked U1930?

  • @jimmysmantzas
    @jimmysmantzas Год назад +1

    probably needs smc replacement, they die easily on these boards with a little liquid all the time

  • @ch2o2
    @ch2o2 Год назад

    am I totally wrong when I think, that the cables you use to bypass broken tracks are not insulated (no lacquer coating, whatever). If so, don't you worry that such bare cables could produce silly, random short circuits? I'm sure, you take care about such cases (and you isolate everything afterwards) ..it's just for understanding

  • @nadegebaka883
    @nadegebaka883 Год назад +1

    Hello SORIN
    It is hard to see your Power supply ''voltage ''display.
    I mentioned it MANY TIME bcs it is Hard to follow when you repair..
    Your could CHECK your video online to see what I'm talking about.
    Thank to you to ''solve it ''.
    T

  • @MohammedWahab-he1mt
    @MohammedWahab-he1mt 2 месяца назад

    Can anyone tell me how long it takes to become a technician?

  • @ElectronPCFix
    @ElectronPCFix Год назад

    Waiting for coffee and electronics please when is it going to start?

  • @GurjVirdee
    @GurjVirdee Год назад +1

    Common board for SMC failure

  • @chrisdevitto4340
    @chrisdevitto4340 Год назад +1

    I’d check with Paul Daniels look through his videos I’ll bet you find your answer.

  • @doctorlaptopuk
    @doctorlaptopuk Год назад +3

    And THIS is why we stopped doing Macbooks last year. You can spend a day on one and still not get it fixed. I suspect you need to do an SMC reball here. Not such a bad job but use 0.3 balls.
    Then, when that fails get a large hammer and a pound for the swear box.

  • @jaym5938
    @jaym5938 Год назад +2

    Perhaps ask Chris at Rossmann repair?

  • @optimizelogicrepair2784
    @optimizelogicrepair2784 Год назад +3

    Re-Ball/Replace SMC. Anytime I get one of these boards with liquid damage next to SMC, it is automatic. Another clue, is no green light. I bet PPBUS_G3H is 8.14V. Should be 8.56V. Not sure if these may help. ruclips.net/p/PLHgLf-SjjTdwX2fp_YQS06hfwja5xgqDN

    • @electronicsrepairschool
      @electronicsrepairschool  Год назад +2

      Thank you. Of course is 8.56, i said every power rail is fine, i have green light and orange light on the charger, is charging the battery fine, and the board is coming on without DDRREG_EN which enable 1.2v power supply which is also fine

    • @optimizelogicrepair2784
      @optimizelogicrepair2784 Год назад

      Did you get it working?

  • @ElectronPCFix
    @ElectronPCFix Год назад +1

    Finally It's Friday! Hahaha...

  • @HalifaxComputersRepair
    @HalifaxComputersRepair Год назад

    so your not working at the computer store any more?

  • @prosolder
    @prosolder Год назад +1

    you have more bad joints and i think you didnt find all the bad traces from liquid damage and you probably have to find all the missing traces thats your problem[you have to spend more hours to look at them and to find them]

  • @moskito2010
    @moskito2010 Год назад

    Reflow SMC Chip

  • @humamalrawi1276
    @humamalrawi1276 Год назад

    3.4 take it form power supply not from chip

  • @ruudvansteenis
    @ruudvansteenis Год назад

    Calling Doctor Rossmann, urgent please!

  • @teslasapple
    @teslasapple Год назад

    Clear PRAM NVRAM SMC 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @miguemawe
    @miguemawe Год назад

    cpu shorted!

  • @nelsoningalsbe8262
    @nelsoningalsbe8262 Год назад +3

    Its a apple just trash it in the bin😅

  • @billyjames9861
    @billyjames9861 Год назад

    The last wire you soldered was touching another circuit/trace - The first wire you soldered may also be touching another capacitor

    • @Radek__
      @Radek__ Год назад

      I think that wire has a shield/paint cover like a wire inside transformer or coil.

    • @MrPnew1
      @MrPnew1 Год назад

      @@Radek__ yes, magnet wire

  • @repaircorner3322
    @repaircorner3322 Год назад

    To compare the boards, first please remove the M2.sata ssd drive. It can be faulty.

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot Год назад +1

    It's Apple..

  • @cazi7244
    @cazi7244 Год назад +2

    Hello Sorin, in my opinion you cut out to much content. It was not easy to follow your proceed.

  • @SinsBird
    @SinsBird Год назад +1

    Too much editing in the video, hard to follow.

  • @croatiafishingtour
    @croatiafishingtour Год назад +2

    Stop repairing Apple laptops.

  • @andreasmoll_0924
    @andreasmoll_0924 5 месяцев назад

    A little bit of raisin.Just a little bit small raisin between this two pins

  • @martykopka
    @martykopka Год назад +3

    You need a grinding pen. Would save you effort when trying to 'dig' and find traces. Can even buy one from 'Northridge Fix' :-)

    • @lenhunter2719
      @lenhunter2719 Год назад +4

      I love Alex's work and would love to be able to buy some decent quality tools and equipment from his company. Sorin is also a great technician but, even more than that, he is an awesome, caring and patient teacher.

  • @electronicrepairservice2020
    @electronicrepairservice2020 Год назад

    Feel your frustration, have been there after hours/days, perplexed & disgusted. This is a learning experience so it requires an investment of time.🤓 Louis is the known expert on these, maybe you could try to reach out to him for an explanation? Could be a better option than making yourself crazy 🤔 Hope you can get it sorted out.

  • @Muhendisbeyy
    @Muhendisbeyy Год назад

    a big thank you for these beautiful videos and good practice that you teach us. 🙏