The Quran also calculate the speed of light, someone has posted it on youtube how The Quran explain it similarly like this islamic calender calculation that Quran revealed, im very fascinating about it but when you study it deeper then you’ll see why or God explaining in Surah Al-Imran verse 7, meaning The Quran itself can become a guidance to a believer and also can become a cause of misguidance to a non-believer also God warn us thru the Quran someone can stray afar from islam also someone can become believer with it in surah An-Nahl verse 93, meaning this life is all about THE TEST so He will revealed it in the afterlife to us that who is the true BELIEVER and who is THE NON-BELIEVER with a very-very clear line that seperate them apart … the speed of light = ruclips.net/video/TkvQluFXSXI/видео.html
madness only have 12 months . then you pretend there's not 13 on every 3rd year. funny. there is no way to tell me about the extra month without saying there is a extra month
Thank you for breaking this down for someone who is neither Islamic nor one who lives in a part of the world with many Islamic neighbors. It was very intriguing and I feel the need to research even more about this!
@@mf1787 oh hello! I haven’t taken a really deep dive into Islam beliefs, cultures, and lifestyle, but I did get to learn a lot about Islam during my college course Women in Religion. We learned quite a bit, but something that really stood out to me was Islamic mosques. From what I learned, it is not acceptable to depict Allah in a drawing or visual rendering, but the Arabic script itself is considered holy in the sense that Allah’s beauty and power can be portrayed through the script, which is why there are many Arabic inscriptions in mosques. I hope I have explained this in a way that is accurate and true to Islam; if I made a mistake, please let me know!
I got goosebumps near the end. Subhanallah. Quran is such a miracle. It's a bless for us Muslim able to read Quran. May Allah make this Lunisolar calendar more recognisable.
I've been saying this for over 20 years now and have been fasting during the lunar month close to the Autumn equinox. You've done a great job with your presentation. I'm glad to see we aren't as few as it seemed to be. Keep up the good work and may Allah bless your efforts. Don't be discouraged by any naysayers. Peace.
Wow 20 years is quite impressive! You must have a lot of patience. May Allah reward you for standing up for the truth (even when you were alone) and never getting discouraged by the majority. Alhamdulillah a few more of us are waking up now.
@@J L Peace be upon you, I wanted to clarify to you that Muslims don't worship that day (Friday). We congregate on that day to worship the Creator of the heavens and earth and that which is between them (heavens and earth). The last and final Messenger said: "The best day on which the sun rises is Friday. [On Friday] Adam was created and on that day he entered paradise and on that day he was expelled from paradise. And the Hour will come to pass on Friday."
@@MohamedHassan-ni6un Assalamualaykum brother. I think it is important to note that Friday isn't the name of our jum'uah. Look up the meaning of the day "friday" on google and you will be shocked.
Bismillah ir Rahman and Raheem. 19 letters. -114 chapter , multiple of 19 x 6. - First Revelation in Surah Alaq - 19 Words & 76 letters (19 x 4). - Surah Alaq in reverse order it comes as 19 number Surah. - Last Quranic revelation Surah Nasar consist of 19 words. - First verse of last revelation in Surah Nasar consist of 19 letters. And many more…. Number 19 is a key.
You can create a pretty good lunisolar calendar by counting Islamic months, but always skipping over two of them, and starting over each time you reach 28. By doing this, you will create 12 fixed times in the year: the number of each month is the day of that month when the next fixed time occurs, and the two skipped months take the number of the last month. This would be much easier to use than a Metonic cycle, and much more useful.
I just saw your vid and i was too happy i rushed to see your channel for more vids and i was surprised you stopped and tge vid is 5 years old 😢 i hope you make more vids it was great ty
I think it is very important to study time in our deen. It is a sensitive subject. Sister are you aware of the word "friday". According to google it has a very shocking meaning "Old English Frīgedæg ‘day of Frigga’, named after the Germanic goddess Frigga, wife of the supreme god Odin and goddess of married love; translation of late Latin Veneris dies ‘day of Venus’, Frigga being equated with the Roman goddess of love, Venus. Compare with Dutch vrijdag and German Freitag". We should all just say jum'uah.
I was just reading about oldest Arabic papyrus and I found out that is PERF 558. It has both Islamic and Coptic dates on it! Islamic date is: جمادي الاول year 22 AH Coptic date corresponds to April 25 th 643 As you can see Islamic month is matching with gregorian month which confirms Muslim who wrote it was using a lunisolar calendar. Further proving your argument.
Hi thanks for your interesting comment I google it and I found that they used lunar calendar the fact that jumada give us April is only an accident It doesn't mean they didn't use lunar calendar I will give you the proof with a online conversion calendar : www.aly-abbara.com/utilitaires/calendrier/calendrier_hijir.html So yeah the date of the papyrus match with April in Julian calendar but you can check other year and you see that the month doesn't match anymore
wow what a great job … and what a great accent you have of both Arabic and English...how admirable presentation...plz give your net contact...may be you too meet a curious muslim god willing... be blessed
I like the idea of the Lunisolar calendar's compensating for the 11 days by skipping 3 times then compiling it into another "month" of sorts. its kinda similar to when in the Solar Calendar, February gets an extra day every 4 years. this is due to the fact that in actuality, the solar year lasts 365 days and 6 hours, but we typically don't regard those 6 hours. 4 years later that time amounts to a full day, therefore we give February its 29th day every 4 years.
Surah 18 ayat 25-26 Al Khaf I'm sure shows us that the companions of the Prophet (SAW) were using a Solar tropical calendar, it exposes Lunar. Also Surah 10 verse 5 is worth looking into also. Salaam.
Salam. Yes, you are right. Those verses are important too. I did place Surah 10 verse 5 as the end screen for this video (as a final conclusion). And I do talk about Surah 18 (Al Kahf) towards the end of my third video: An-Nasi'.
Assalamu alaykum, So if we were to follow the lunisolar calendar, that would mean Ramadan would never fall on a month where the sun doesn't set, because with the current lunar calendar, Muslims living in northern countries such as Norway will have years where they would have to fast 24 hours every day which is impossible and actually happened I believe this year or previous years. This is what convinced me that the lunar calendar cannot be the correct Islamic calendar.
Wa aleykum as-salam, yes! That is very true. If we followed the correct calendar, Ramadan would always fall around September or October. And during this period, day-length is similar everywhere on Earth. (The difference between the northern regions and the equatorial regions would only be a 3h hours at most).
@@Gazus12345 I do reject all hadith books. There are many reasons for this. But here is one of them: When the Messenger Muhammad died, he only left us _one_ Book: the Quran. In verse 59:7, the Quran tells us to take whatever the Messenger has given us, and to forbid what he has forbidden us. What did the Messenger give us? What is the one book he conserved for _us,_ the next generations? The Quran. And what was Muhammad’s _only_ complaint about his people? See verse 25:30. Besides the Quran, did Muhammad leave hadith books for us? No. Other men gave us these books - Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizi, Ibn Hanbal, Ibn Maja, Abu Dawud, etc. Who are these men? Did they live with Muhammad? No. Did Muhammad assign them to write hadith books? No. Were they Messengers? Did they receive revelations from God? No. All of these men came *centuries* after Muhammad passed away. They travelled around collecting rumors (many of which are terrible accusations against Muhammad). And now we are told that Islam cannot be correctly followed without these hadith books. In other words, if it weren’t for men like Bukhari, Islam would have been lost… So, we see that once again the scholars are implying that Muhammad failed to properly complete his mission before he died. Had the Quran not been enough, surely, Muhammad would have added the missing important instructions! Knowing that he would be the last Messenger, he would have either written them himself, or at least commanded the sahaba to keep records. But Muhammad did not do that. The explanation that Bukhari tries to give for this problem is a clumsy one. According to Bukhari, Muhammad actually commanded his people _not_ to write hadith books because he feared they would get mixed up with the Quran. But this is not logical. Because verses 53:3 and 53:4 tell us that any commandment Muhammad gave to his people was revealed to Him from God. He only commands what God reveals to Him. And since the Quran is also revealed from God, it’s the same source! So, there should be no problem with mixing the Quran and the hadith (since they are ultimately both revelations from God), and _especially_ if both are necessary to correctly follow Islam! Therefore, Bukhari’s explanation is not logical. If you want even more solid proofs from the Quran showing us that true Islam is based on the Quran alone, send me an e-mail at justacuriousmuslim@gmail.com and I will share with you a much more detailed response. Peace.
@@SimplyMuslim so how come we know about methodology of prayers or even know that there are five obligatory prayers for Muslims if we take Quran only as a source to learn Deen ?
Thank you for your comment, Memoona Shaukat. When the Messenger Muhammad passed away, he left behind one Book: the Quran. That's the Message he himself conserved in manuscripts for the next generations. And, for the first few centuries, that was indeed the only source Muslims relied upon to learn Deen. Do you think that the Messenger Muhammad failed to properly complete his mission? Do you think that without men like Bukhari and others who went around collecting rumors _centuries_ later Islam would have been lost? If Isam needed another set of books to explain the Quran, how come the Messenger Muhammad didn't write them himself like he wrote the Quran to conserve it for the next generation? The Quran contains all the instructions we need to worship God properly, as evidenced by the following verses: 6:38, 6:114, 16:89, 19:64, 44:2-6. Furthermore, in verse 29:51, God criticizes those who believe that the Quran is not enough. And what was the Messenger's only complaint about his people? (See 25:30) Regarding Prayer, the Message the Prophet Muhammad conserved tells us: - How to make wudu (4:43, 5:6) - Which direction to face (2:125 and 2:143-150, 22:26) - How to pray: > Explicitely refers to the 3 prayer positions: standing, bowing, prostraing (2:238, 3:39, 4:102, 22:26, 38:24, 48:29) > Explains that during prayer we must glorify God and recite the Quran (6:162, 17:111, 20:14, 29:45) > Even tells us how loud we must recite the Quran during prayer (17:110) - When to pray (11:114, 17:78-79, 24:58, 73:2-4) => Notice that the Quran repeats over and over again that there is a total of 3 prayers: one at the two ends of the day (fajr and isha) and one around the middle of the night. The fact that there is no prayer during the day is made especially clear in 24:58. Notice how God refers to dawn, noon, and evening, yet only dawn (fajr) and evening (isha) have a prayer associated to them. When God mentions the noon time, He makes no reference to a prayer. Of course, these are my personal beliefs. So, if you disagree, I respect your different beliefs. Peace.
Hi! I was looking exactly for this! Great content! There are some things that the majority of muslim do just because they are told so. Without any critical thinking. And I think this may be one example upon many others. I would like to contact you, is there an email or a page I can write to? Thank you! Keep on the great work!
Main question is to ask is when Muslims started to follow lunar calendar. And who linked Islamic festivals to lunar calendar. If u can make a video on that history.
It is speculated that Muslims likely started following the lunar-only calendar around two generations after the prophet's passing. There is an ancient Arabic poem that Shias attribute to the messenger's grandson who allegedly complains about how many Muslims at his time were no longer observing the month of Ramadan during its correct period.
Selam sister. I found your video while investigating the subject of months/calendar in the Qur'an to see if the current system we're using is incorrect (by any chance). This is certainly an interesting presentation. I've also watched your video titled "forgotten meanings of the Islamic months", which supports your claim here. But I'm taking all this with a grain of salt at the moment since I wasn't expecting such a different answer. For now though, I'd like to ask you a simple question. Suppose I know absolutely nothing of the calendars Arabs have used so far and am trying to find out when to fast and when to go to pilgrimmage from Quranic verses alone. What answer do you think I will find? (and please justify it with corresponding verses.) Thanks in advance.
Salam. The first time ‘fasting’ was mentioned in the Quran is in verse 2:183, to remind us that others before us were also instructed to fast. Then in verse 2:184, we are told that this fasting is to occur during “أياما معدودات” (i.e. a finite number of 3 or more days). At this point, we might have 2 questions: 1- When exactly during the year do these “أياما معدودات” happen? 2- What is the specific number of days we are expected to fast for? The following verse (2:185) tells us that we should fast the month of Ramadan. This answers the question of when (the month of Ramadan) and how many days (29-30 depending on the year). Let's assume you have never heard of Islam before and have stumbled across the Quran for the first time. You would still know that “Ramadan” is the name of a month, because verse 2:185 states so. And since you also know that the Quran’s language is Arabic (based on many verses including 12:2, 13:37, 41:3, etc.), you would be able to conclude that Ramadan must be one of the months of the Arabic calendar. At this point, you would need to make some research on the Arabic calendar to find out which of the 12 months corresponds to Ramadan. The Quran gives us enough detail that points us in the correct direction, but it is up to us to use the minds and logic that God gave to make research and learn more.
I personally observe when it seems to be the first month of autumn and that's when I will fast the month of Ramadan in shaa Allah. According to my observation it seems to be not the next crescent moon but the crescent moon after that which is the begining of the month of Ramadan if you live like where I live in the northern hemisphere.
1) The true Islamic Calendar is Luni-Solar. Meaning it takes both the moon and the sun into account. 2) The new year DOES NOT begin with Muharram. It begins with Rabi al Awal. Why? Not only because Rabi al Awal is the month in which the prophet (pbuh) made the Hijra. But also because the new year begins in Spring rather than in the dead of Winter. 3) This means that the Islamic New Year begins with the new moon that is born between March 20 and April 17. Here are the months in order: 1) Rabi al Awal 2) Rabi al Thani 3) Jumada al Awal 4) Jumada al Thani 5) Rajab 6) Shaban 7) Ramadan 8) Shawwal 9) Dhul Qidda 10) Dhul Hijjah 11) Safar al Awal 12) Safar al Thani 13) Muharram (The leap month that is added every 2-3 years)
As for when the Hijri year and Ramadan starts for the following years: 2024: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 10th of April. Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 4th of October 2025: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 30th of March. Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 23rd of September 2026: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 18th of April. Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 12th of October 2027: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 8th of April. Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 1st of October
The discussion about Rabi' al-Awwal is pretty deep. It means the first of Spring. But because Islam is based on the lunar calendar, Rabi' al-Awwal could take place on the first day of Fall (or Winter or Summer or anytime). Which is fine if that works for you. In Judaism, time is dependent on the lunar cycle. The problem is that the Torah requires that Passover (aka Pesach) be observed in the Spring (Spring is based on the solar year) AND on the 15th of the Hebrew month of Nissan (Hebrew month based on the lunar year). How can this happen consistently year in and year out if the lunar year is around 10-11 days shorter than the solar year? This is why the Torah CLEARLY gives the power to the People/Court/Beit Din to establish a new/leap month (see Exodus Chapter 12 and the use of the Hebrew words "HaChodesh Hazeh Lachem..." or "The months shall be for YOU to establish...) - in order to ensure the Holiday of Passover (aka Pesach) is celebrated in the Spring season, in accordance with the Torah's requirement. It's worthwhile to note that in the year 400, Hillel determined all future required leap months in perpetuity - so there is no requirement to declare one via the People/Court/Beit Din. This is just one example of why it is clear that G-d wanted the Jews/Sages to study and expound on the Torah (i.e. via the Mishna/Talmud). Orthodox Jews believe that the Mishna/Talmud were transmitted to Moses at Sinai.
lunar شهر قمري = ٢٩ يوم و١٢ ساعة و٤٤ دقيقة و٢،٨٧ثانية Solar شمسي( ٣٠ يوم و١٠ ساعة و٢٩ دقيقة و ٤،١ ثانية ) Calendar تقويمي تختلف ايامه من ٢٨ إلى ٣١ يوم ....
Salamun alaikum, hope u can clarify my confusion, by replying to my question. F we were to follow lunisolar calindar, month of hajj s fast approaching, probably between December & January. In ur calculation when will b d Arafat day? I am planning to go for hajj now. F i cant reach anymore, so may b nxt year 2023 i will go. I am so greatful & feel honor to have ur answer. More power , may d All Mighty invrease ur knowledge & reward ur great efforts. Maasalam..
سبحان الله و بحمده، سبحان الله العظيم ما شاء الله، الله أكبر، لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله ┏━━━━ ﷽ ━━━━┓🕋 💚┗━━━━ ﷽ ━━━━┛ 🥀اَللّٰھُمَّ صَلِّ عَلٰـی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلٰیٓ اٰل ِمُحَمَّدٍ کَمَا صَلَّیْتَـــ عَلٰی اِبْرَاھِیْمَ وَعَلٰیٓ اٰلِ اِبْرَاھِیْمَ اِنَّکَـــ حَمِیْدٌ مَّجِید ۔ اَللّٰھُمَّ بَارِکْـــ عَلٰی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلٰیٓ اٰل ِمُحَمَّدٍ کَمَـــا بَارَکْتَـــ عَلٰی اِبْرَاھِیْمَ وَعَلٰیٓ اٰلِ اِبْرَاھِیْمَ اِنَّکَــــ حَمِیْد مَّجِید🥀 اللهم اغفرلنا وللمؤمنين والمؤمنات والمسلمين والمسلمات وألف بين قلوبهم وأصلح ذات بينهم وانصرهم على عدوك وعدوهم اللهم امين
Salam Simply muslim, On the calendar issue. There are verse that I am looking for clarification. In verse 10:5 the word Manazilla is commonly translated as phase but there are also that understand it as point of location (in the constellation?) which fit better with your presented luni-solar calendar. However the manazilla also appear in 36:39 which made me confused. Kindly if you can help me out to understand 36:39 especially in relation to the word manazilla. So if yiu can explain verse 36:39. Thank you in advance.
It refers to the 28 Lunar mansions, NOT the phases of the moon. This is a result of the wrong adoption of the Hijri calndar currently in use which was never a lunar Calendar, in fact no nation on earth around Arabia in the time and after the time of the Prophet PBUH used a lunar calendar. It was either lunisolar like the Assyrians, Persians, Chinese and Arabs or a Solar one like the Romans and the Byzantine Empire.
Thank you very much for this. I am a student of Classical Chinese medicine and I was hypothesizing a similar conclusion. I was wondering if I can somehow connect with you to discuss my findings, Because I had conducted this with pathology, physiology, direction, organs, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Dear sister have you heard about the blue moon? ( 7 times in 19 years) The "blue moon" reference is applied to the third full moon in a season with four full moons, thus correcting the timing of the last month of a season that would have otherwise been expected too early. This happens every two to three years (seven times in the Metonic cycle of 19 years). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_moon
Thank you for sharing this. Yes, I have heard of this. The "blue moon" is simply a consequence of the Metonic cycle. Basically, if you only follow a solar calendar and keep track of the moon phases in a separate calendar, you'll notice that some years have 13 full moons instead of 12. You're basically noticing the two cycles (solar and lunar) in action. But the lunisolar calendar automatically accounts for this. What would be perceived as a "blue moon" by the followers of a solar-only calendar is simply a regular full moon that falls on a leap year for the followers of the lunisolar calendar.
Wa alaykum as-Salam. Thank you for your comment. The 7 leap years are needed to synchronize the two cycles (lunar and solar). • 19 solar years are approximately 6939.75 days (= 19 years x 365.25 days) • 19 years made of 12 lunar months are approximately 6732.84 days (= 19 years x 12 months x 29.53 days) • Missing (leap) days: 19 "solar years" - 19 "years made of 12 lunar months" = 6939.75 days - 6732.84 days = 206.91 days. So, after a period of 19 years, the lunar calendar is missing 207 days. (Which means that we must add 207 days throughout the 19 years, in order to place the months back within their respective seasons). How will we add these 207 days without messing up the cycle of moon phases and the seasonal cycle? The best way to do this is by adding these missing days in the form of leap months. • Converting days to months: (206.91 days)/29.53 days = 7.007 months So, approximately 7 leap months must be added to compensate for the missing days. This means that during a period of 19 years, 7 will be leap years (containing 13 months each) and 12 will be regular years (containing 12 months each). Technically, it doesn't really matter when exactly you add the 7 leaps months during your 19 year cycle (as long as you do add them eventually). But, by convention, lunisolar calendars will usually add a leap month every 2-3 years.
Thk-you ma'am & enlightening, ?What is the is the Least Common Multiple (LCD) of a solar cycle & 12 moon cycles of time? ?Does any calender utilize this LCM for their calender? (ex: ?Maya calendar?)
The LCM of the solar cycle and 12 mons is actually the 19 years, or Metonic cycle mentioned in this video. Most lunisolar calendars are based on this cycle.
@@SimplyMuslim Thks ma'am & I'm just a curious retired scientist, It always awesome to me how empirical math/sci concepts are the same across all the-world. Maybe it is true we-all are mostly clones compared to other mammals. It would seem the current delta between the sun & moon calenders allows users of the sun calendar, moon calendar, or some combination to arbitrarily translate between all of them ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonic_cycle . Just learning something interesting/new, thks-again.
Hi, if we follow the correct luni solar calendar why was the war of Badr of13 March 624 CE was said to be in the month of Ramadhan if according to you should fall within September? when it was in March
Hello, Events like the Battle of Badr were not recorded by the Romans. They were only recorded by Arabs in the Hijri calendar, and they didn't use the Gregorian calendar at the time. So, the Gregorian dates that you see for these events are estimations made by later scholars. These estimations were calculated based on the "lunar-only calendar". However, the calculations made by these scholars are wrong. And here is the proof: For my proof, I am going to focus on 3 battles that occurred in 1 year. The Year is 15 Hijri (or 636 A.D.). The Battles are: the Battle of Yarmouk, the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah, and the Siege of Jerusalem. Two of these battles were recorded by both Arabs and Romans at the time of the events (so we have the dates in both Hijri and Gregorian). One was recorded only by Arabs (and converted into Gregorian by later scholars). The proof will demonstrate that the original Arabic calendar (used by the early Muslims) was luni-solar. The proof will also show that contradictions occur when the later scholars try to convert a Hijri date into a Gregorian date using a lunar-only calendar. *PROOF* Consider the Battle of Yarmouk: A battle between Arabs and Romans. Both Arabs and Romans recorded the event. Arabs recorded the date as Rajab in Year 15 Hijri. Romans recorded the date as August in Year 636 A.D. Now consider the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah: A battle between Arabs and Persians. This event was only recorded by Arabs. Romans didn't record it because it didn't concern them. And we don't have Persian records because their civilization was destroyed. So, only Arab records remained for the battle of al-Qadisiyyah. Arabs recorded the date as Shaban in Year 15 Hijri. In other words, the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah occurred 1 month after the Battle of Yarmouk. For events like the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah, the Hijri dates were converted into Gregorian dates by later scholars. These scholars started using the wrong (lunar-only) calendar to make their calculations. So, they placed the battle of al-Qadisiyyah in November. But we now have a contradiction. Arab records tell us this battle occurred only 1 month after Yarmouk, not 3! Therefore, this proves that the scholars who later converted the Hijri dates into Gregorian were using wrong calculations. Now consider the Siege of Jerusalem: Another battle between Arabs and Romans. So, once again, both Arabs and Romans recorded the event. Arabs recorded the date as Shawwal in Year 15 Hijri. Romans recorded the date as November in Year 636 A.D. See? The month equivalences are once again consistent with the luni-solar calendar. And we also notice a second contradiction with the date for the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah: The scholars who later converted the Hijri month to Gregorian placed the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah in November. However, this is the month during which the Siege of Jerusalem occurred! So, these scholars are telling us that the 2 events occurred in the same month. Yet, Arab records show that they occurred in two completely different months. So this, once again, proves that the scholars who later converted the dates were not using the same calendar that was used by the Arabs (and early Muslims) at the time of these events. Whenever an event is recorded by both Arabs and Romans, the Arabic months are consistent with the luni-solar calendar. Contradictions occur when an event is only recorded by Arabs and then we depend on later scholars to convert the dates from Hijri to Gregorian. These contradictions exist because the scholars are no longer using the original calendar adopted by the early Muslims.
I recently came across another piece of evidence concerning the battle of Badr. To understand the context, note that many Arabs in Mecca took two regular trips during the year (which were mentioned in verse 106:2): - The Winter trip was an annual trip from Mecca to Yemen. Every winter, some Meccans moved to the South, where the weather is warmer. Then they returned to Mecca by the end of Winter (around March). - The Summer trip was an annual trip from Mecca to Syria. Every summer, some Meccans moved up North, where the weather is cooler. Then they returned to Mecca by the end of Summer (around September). Now consider the battle of Badr. Historical records by the early Muslims indicate that the battle of Badr took place in Ramadan of the year 2 H. The records also tell us that this event occurred after the annual trip back from Syria. Since the caravan was coming back to Mecca from Syria, this must have been the end of the Summer trip. Yet, when converting the Hijri dates to Gregorian dates, scholars who rely on the lunar-only calendar place the battle of Badr in the month of March, which would have been the end of Winter not the end of Summer. This creates a contradiction since the annual Winter trip was the one going to Yemen, not Syria. Meccans avoided Syria during the Winter since it was too cold. But if we follow the lunisolar calendar, Ramadan would correspond to September/October in the Gregorian calendar, which indeed is the end of Summer, and that is precisely the period during which Meccans were known to return from Syria.
Salam, thank you for your comment :) You can rely on any lunisolar calendar since they all basically work the same way. Personally, I've started using the Jewish calendar, since it's very similar to the original Islamic calendar and there are clear month-to-month correspondences between the two calendars. For instance, Ramadan in the Islamic calendar is equivalent to the month of Tishrei in the Jewish calendar.
It was a nice video but i jst want to ask u one thing where im confused is that u said in the video that islamic calendar is lunisolar but in reality its strictly follow lunar calendar its only dependent on the moon
Thank you for your comment. The calendar I am referring to in this video is the original Islamic calendar based on the Quran. This is the calendar that was followed by the earlier Muslims at the time of the Messenger Muhammad. Today's lunar-only calendar is a cultural modification. I explain where the confusion stems from in my 3rd video (An-Nasi').
Salam, If you can elaborate more if the leap month/day does not mean to add a month become 13. In this video you mentioned is just adding back days that were not accounted for. If you can give sort of illustration in more detail, because this is seems like adding a month become 13 is the strong argument of why they use lunar Calendar. \ Also, what your interpretation of verse (18:25) about who stayed in their Cave for three hundred years (sinīna) and added nine which they claims to be 300 years lunar Calendar + 9 which indicates the different with other Calendar system (solar). Thank you in advance,
Salam, the key is to understand that there is a difference between the calendar and the year. The calendar is how many different months we work with. In our case, the Quran clearly indicates that we should have 12 _calendar_ months. The leap month is not a 13th month in the calendar. It's just a placeholder consisting of missed days from previous years. In other words, when we add a leap month during a year, the calendar still has only 12 months (we didn't create an _extra_ month, we just added the past _missed_ days in a convenient manner; instead of adding the 11 days at the end of each year, we waited until they accumulate to 30 days. It's so we don't lose track of the phases of the moon, which is the flaw with the solar-only calendar). Another way to illustrate this idea: We have 11 missing days every year. These days need to be accounted for, otherwise our years are too short and our calendar wouldn't be consistent anymore. (Consider that the difference between the Gregorian calendar and today's mainstream lunar-only "Islamic" calendar is no longer 622 years but 576 years. i.e. By not keeping track of the missed days, they're now missing 43 years! If this continues, eventually, this lunar-only calendar will actually be _ahead_ of the Gregorian calendar! In other words, there's no consistency. How can this calendar be used to keep track of events accurately? It can't.). Since we absolutely do need to account for the missed days if we want our calendar to remain consistent, our next challenge is to figure out _how_ we add these missed days to our year. To account for the 11 missing days, the Gregorian calendar adds 1 day to almost all of its months. While this is a simple solution, it comes at a cost: their months are no longer synchronized with the moon phases. The Quran tells us that we should ensure that our calendar keeps track of the moon phases too for religious purposes. So, given these constraints, what's our best solution? The only way to make sure that our months remain lunar (i.e. in synch with the lunar phases) and our years remain solar (i.e. in synch with the seasonal cycle) is to add 29 or 30 days at a time. This method takes 19 years to completely bring back the months to their original position relative to the seasons. So, yes, it's a slightly more complicated concept (although it becomes quite simple and natural once you get used to it), but the advantage is we get to keep track of both cycles (lunar for months and solar for years) at the same time.
Since the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it works like any other lunisolar calendar. Personally, I have found more resources for the Chinese Calendar, so that’s what I’ve been using as a reference. Ramadan is also equivalent to the 9th month of the Chinese Calendar. As for the Hajj Pligrimage, it can take place during any one of the Forbidden Months. How do we know this? • Verses 2:194 to 2:196 indicate that Hajj is to take place during a Forbidden Month • Verse 2:197 states that Hajj is in _months_ well-known using the plural form "أشهر" (which indicates 3 or more months) • Verse 9:36 reminds us that among the 12 months of the calendar, we have 4 Forbidden Months By looking at the names of the months of the Islamic Calendar, the Forbidden Months that can easily be determined by name are: Thul-Qa'dah, Thul-Hajjah, and Muharram, (which are also equivalent to the 11th, 12th, and 1st months of the Chinese Calendar) The 4th one is subject of debate. Personally, I don't think that Rajab is the 4th Forbidden Month since verses 9:1-2 and 9:5 seem to imply that the 4 Forbidden Months are consecutive. Therefore, I reckon that the 4th Forbidden Month is either Shawal or Safar. So far, I have found more evidence for it being Shawal, but I am not 100% certain. The Hong Kong Observatory website provides a convenient conversion table in PDF format for each year: www.hko.gov.hk/gts/time/conversion.htm This is what I have been using to determine the dates of the lunisolar calendar in relation to the Gregorian Calendar. _Note that although their title says "Lunar" calendar, they do add a leap month whenever necessary, so it really is lunisolar calendar_ Peace.
Simply Muslim, peace be upon you. So far, I understood that the islamic calendar is based on lunar cycle only. Thats why, Ramadan month cycles through different months on different year in contrast with Gregorian calendar. Furthermore, as shown on the video that hajj pilgrimage should be between December to February and Ramadan between September to October during equinox time if the islamic calendar based on lunisolar adding the leap every after two years based metonic cycle. Regards.
That means Ramadan is the 9th month which is supposed to begin on 29th September 2019 and hajj which is 12th month should be started from 25th dec 2019?
The leap month only has 30 days. The lunar and solar cycles would still be out of sync after the 3rd year. It takes 19 years for the two cycles to go back in sync (that's what we call the "Metonic cycle").
Wait, if what is described in the Quran is a lunisolar calendar are Muslims violating this by following strictly the lunar calendar? The current Muslim Calendar constantly shifts with respect to the Gregorian maybe it wouldn’t shift as much if we followed a lunisolar?
@@HeadshooterGTAS كتاب word root meaning is arrangement, later it was rendered as book , if you render it as an "arrangement" in all instances it appears in the scripture, you can find it makes more sense
Does the month ramadan start depending on new moon or full moon? New moon is 28 sep and full moon sep 14. New moon for aug is 30 aug. When do we start fasting?
The Quran talks about Ramadan in verses 2:185-189. Verse 2:189 refers to the new moons as a way to determine time. There is no mention of full moons. Based on the context, I believe this makes it clear that Ramadan (just like any other month) starts with the new moon. I reckon Ramadan would start on September 28th this year. This is because _Camel breeding season_ in the Arabian Peninsula always occurs around November, so the month of Shawal should also be around November. But the only way that this would be true is if the previous month (Ramadan) falls around October or begins in late September.
@@SimplyMuslim JazakAllah khayr for the reply! I got confused as month of Ramadan is in september and the new moon is september 28th. Thanks again for the reply and clarification. All the best!
Thank you for your kind words. All is well thank God, I've just been very busy lately. Perhaps I will start posting again if I have more time in the future :)
@@SimplyMuslim I cant wait, really looking forward to it. Wish you all the best, may Allah give you success on this path and make you a means of enlightenment for all of mankind. InshaAllah!
A synodic month is about 29.5 days. So, from our perspective on Earth, it sometimes takes 29 days and sometimes 30 days to view a complete cycle of the phases of the moon.
Technically, it doesn't matter when exactly you place the leap month within the leap year (as long as you do count it before moving on to the next year). This is why different lunisolar calendars have established different conventions for when this leap month is to be added. In the Jewish Calendar, for example, the leap month is always added after the month of Adar. (So, during leap years, the Jewish calendar will have “Adar I ” and “Adar II”). The month of Adar in the Jewish Calendar is equivalent to the month of Safar in the Islamic Calendar. Interestingly, if you make research on the ancient Arabic Calendar (which was adopted by the Muslims at the time of Muhammad), you will find that Arabs/Muslims also had a “Safar I” and “Safar II” at some points in time. Note: Some modern scholars speculate that “Safar I” might have been the old name of “Muharram,” but there is no solid proof for this. However, if we consider the many proofs that the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it’s likely that “Safar II” was actually the leap month.
Yes, after the first 3 years the solar and lunar cycles are still not perfectly aligned. It takes 19 years for the two cycles to align. We call that 19-year cycle the "Metonic Cycle." I briefly explain how the Metonic Cycle works in the description underneath this video. For more information, you can also read more about the Metonic Cycle online. As mentioned in this video, when analyzing the number of times key words like “day”, “month”, and “year” occur in the Quran we see that the numbers point us toward the Metonic Cycle.
@@SimplyMuslimif we add the intercalated month every leap year would it not affect our zakah payments every 36 years thus delaying zakat? also since 1 month in intercalated it would push away all religious dates by 1 month in the next year for ex 1 muharram would actually occur on 30 muharram due to the intercalated month addition? what is the need for intercalation if at all?
@@tanvirhussain2266i think there is a reason why the number of month are kept 12, and the 13th not named, so the 13th can be ignored . its added days accros that year and 2 years before after all
@@tanvirhussain2266 Sorry for the late reply, for some reason I didn't get a notification for your comment and just noticed this. Without intercalation, the calendar's dates are no longer reliable. Consider, for example, the fact that the difference between the Gregorian calendar and the mainstream lunar-only calendar followed by today's Muslims used to be 622 years but is now 576 years. i.e. By not keeping track of the missed days, this calendar is now missing 43 years! If this continues, it will eventually be ahead of the Gregorian calendar! In other words, there's no consistency. How can this calendar be used to keep track of events accurately? It can't. So intercalation is necessary for every calendar. Even the solar-only calendar needs to add a leap day every 4 years, since periods of adjustment are a necessary part of any functional calendar. In fact, the Arabic word for calendar is "تقويم", which literally means "adjustment".
@@tanvirhussain2266 The leap month would not postpone all religious dates by a month in the next year. I do talk about this in my 3rd video (An-Nasi').
Bonjour, j'ai une question si vous le permettez : Si on voulait rétablir ce calendrier solaire/ lunaire aujourd'hui (c'est à dire cette année) , comment savoir si nous sommes dans une année "leap year" de 13 mois ou année standard de 12 mois (par rapport aux Arabes de l'époque ) ? Vu que ce modèle de calendrier est par définition en déphasage avec le calendrier lunaire, et que le mois de ramadan est un mois bien défini, il y a donc deux possibilités : 1) soit les arabes de l'époque du prophète Muhammad suivait effectivement ce concept de leap year, et donc il faudrait savoir quand est-ce que le dernier ramadan "approuvé" par le prophète a eu lieu ( est-ce que c'était durant une année de 13 mois ou bien de 12 ) pour que nous puissions nous réajuster avec certitude à ce modèle. (Ce qui va être difficile vu que, selon ce point de vue, ce système a été altéré et donc il serait perdu. ) 2) soit l'année "islamique" a toujours été complètement lunaire, indépendamment de la saison, et de ce fait, en cherchant à ajouter un mois, on serait automatiquement en déphasage par rapport au calendrier lunaire que les musulmans suivrait d'une façon ininterrompue depuis le dernier ramadan "approuvé" par le prophète. (Et pour prouver cela, il faudrait aussi trouver la preuve que la position du mois de ramadan n'a pas été altéré dans le calendrier "islamique" d'aujourd'hui et que l'ordre a effectivement été préservé, ce qui, à mon avis, ça être tout aussi difficile ) Toute réponse ou critique est la bienvenue. Peace
Bonjour Rayane, en fait il est relativement simple de se remettre à suivre le calendrier original du temps du prophète. Par exemple, certains évènements historiques de cette époque ont été documentés non seulement par les arabes, mais aussi par les romains. Ceci nous donne la possibilité de vérifier les dates du calendrier arabe à l’époque du messager par rapport au calendrier romain. Prenons l’an 636 apr. J.-C. comme exemple. Il correspond à l’an 15 après l’hégire, et le prophète était encore en vie à cette époque. Les romains et les arabes se sont affrontés à deux occasions : lors de la bataille de Yarmouk et lors du siège de Jérusalem. D’après les records historiques, les arabes indiquent que la bataille de Yarmouk s’est déroulée durant le mois de Rajab. Les romains indiquent qu’elle s’est déroulée durant le mois d’août. Quant au siège de Jérusalem, les arabes indiquent qu’il a eu lieu durant le mois de Shawwal, et les romains indiquent qu’il a eu lieu durant le mois de novembre. On voit bien que les mois arabes et les mois romains correspondent aux mêmes saisons ! (Si on suit un calendrier luni-solaire, le mois de Rajab devrait tomber autour du mois d’août, alors que le mois de Shawwal devrait tomber autour du mois de novembre). Ce qui est intéressant avec l’année 636 apr. J.-C., c’est qu’il y a eu une 3ème bataille, cette fois entre les arabes et les perses : la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah. Mais, contrairement aux romains, la civilisation des perses a été complètement détruite. Du coup, nous n’avons que les records historiques arabes, qui indiquent que cette bataille a eu lieu durant le mois de Shaban de l’an 15 après l’hégire. C’est-à-dire que cette bataille s’est déroulée un mois après la bataille de Yarmouk. Mais, comme cet évènement ne concernait pas les romains, ils n’en n’ont pas conservé un record dans leur histoire. Donc, pour convertir la date de la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah au calendrier grégorien, les érudits musulmans modernes ont dû faire un calcul en supposant que le calendrier musulman de l’époque était lunaire seulement (et pas lunisolaire). Ainsi, ils ont placé la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah dans le mois de novembre en 636 apr. J.-C. Mais ça c’est le mois durant lequel le siège de Jérusalem a eu lieu ! Alors que, d’après les anciens records des arabes, le siège de Jérusalem et la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah se sont déroulés lors de deux mois complètement différents ! Donc ceci réfute l’hypothèse que le calendrier de l’époque du prophète était lunaire seulement, puisqu’en se basant sur cette hypothèse les érudits se sont retrouvés avec des dates contradictoires. Concernant les preuves du calendrier lunisolaire, j’en ai mentionné quelques-unes dans mes vidéos, y compris des preuves basées sur des versets Coraniques.
@@SimplyMuslim @Simply Muslim Bonjour, merci d'avoir pris le temps de répondre. Je comprends votre démarche qui semble logique mais personnellement j'ai une difficulté à accepter les dires des historiens car on sait bien que l'erreur n'est pas impossible dans ce genre de situations (même si je reconnais qu'elle pourrait être authentiques) L'argumentation que vous avez présenté a pour fondation le fait que le calendrier romain à un moment donné rédigée par un scribe x en particulier était fiable (ce qui en soit est une problématique à part entière ) et que les évènements de l'année 636 furent préservés avec précision. Je ne nie pas le fait que ça soit possible mais personnellement je me sentirais dans l'incapacité de savoir avec certitude si ces infos sont valides ou pas. ( Une preuve archéologique matérielle et une datation au carbone 14 pourraient être utiles je pense ) Ensuite je pense qu'il serait plus "safe" de prendre un échantillon d'au moins 2 ou 3 années consécutives pour valider la théorie du calendrier luni-solaire. Si on ne se concentre que sur l'année 636 cela pourrait confirmer que l'ordre des mois tels qu'on les connais sont préservés mais sans données additionnelles on pourrait expliquer le fait que les mois grégoriens coïncident avec les mois des arabes par le fait que cette année là, les mois du calendrier lunaire (sans leap year) devaient coïncider avec ceux du calendrier grégorien, ce qui serait possible vu que les mois du calendrier lunaire se déplacent au fil des années. Enfin j'aimerais dire que certains arguments en faveur du calendrier luni-solaire semblent effectivement convaincants et donc il se peut que je me trompes à ce sujet. Merci encore pour votre attention, peace
@@Moulay.Ismail wa 3alaykoum essalam. Je comprends votre réaction face à cette théorie ( que Simply Muslim n'est pas la seule à défendre ) bien que personnellement j'éviterai de faire des procès d'intention ou de tourner son effort en ridicule car j'estime qu'à notre époque actuelle personne ne peux revendiquer avoir la vérité absolue sur ce genre de problématiques. Il y a effectivement certains points d'interrogation de la théorie luni-solaire qui demandent à être élucidés mais cela ne veut pas dire que le système actuel ne soulève aucun questionnement. Je n'ai pas de réponse à apporter mais j'aimerais juste préciser que l'argument "si tout le monde a toujours fait comme ça alors c'est forcément vrai et fiable" n'est pas forcément valide ( même d'un point de vue coranique si je peux me permettre, vous connaissez sans doute ce qu'il adviendra de nous si on s'obstine à suivre la majorité des gens ) Ce n'est qu'un avis personnel ( donc il se peut que je me trompes ) mais je pense que l'argument du hadith est contestable ( surtout si on voit l'état actuel de la communautée ), cet argument se base également sur une confiance risquée envers des gens dont l'existence, la fiabilité et les compétences restent à prouver. Vous n'avez pas eu de difficulté à remettre en cause les intentions de Simply muslim, donc je ne vois pas ce qui m'empêcherait d'avoir les mêmes doutes au sujet de transmetteurs décédés depuis des siècles avec qui je ne peux même pas avoir un face à face pour discuter ou m'assurer de leur sincérité (sincérité qui, même si elle semble convainquante, pourrait très bien être sujette à l'erreur ou à des manipulations externes.) Je m'excuse si mes propos semblent vous attaquer personnellement, ce n'est pas mon intention. Je cible l'argument et non la personne. Ps à l'intention de @Simply Muslim : effectivement j'ai vérifié sur la page wikipédia attribuée au prophète Muhammad et d'après cette source il serait décédé avant l'année 636. Personnellement je suis complètement neutre face à cette contradiction car dans les deux cas je ne peux pas savoir avec certitude si le prophète est effectivement mort avant ou après l'an 636, l'histoire étant une discipline sensible où il est difficile de distinguer le vrai du faux. Merci pour votre attention, Salam à vous deux.
@@Moulay.Ismail Je me permets juste de rajouter qu'effectivement, Ismail a bien fait de soulever le fait que quand c'est par exemple ربيع الاول dans l'hémisphère nord (selon le calendrier luni-solaire) ça ne sera pas forcément le printemps dans tout l'hémisphère sud. Ce contre argument me semble logique. Faudrait-il alors avoir un calendrier luni-solaire propre à chaque hémisphère pour faire coïncider les mois et les saisons ? Qu'en pensez vous ?
@@rayaneamrouche3705 Les noms des mois du calendrier arabe sont basés sur les saisons spécifiques à une région en particulier : la péninsule arabique. Or, le reste du monde musulman n’est pas concerné par le mois de « récolte des raisins » (Rajab) ou le mois de la « saison de reproduction des dromadaires » (Shawal). Les seuls mois qui nous importent sont ceux qui impliquent des traditions religieuses : Ramadan et les 4 mois sacrés. Pour les mois sacrés, puisqu’ils sont reliés au pèlerinage, ce sont les musulmans qui choisissent de l’entreprendre qui devront se déplacer vers la péninsule arabique. Pour le mois de Ramadan, puisqu’il est relié au jeune (qui dure de l’aube à la nuit), ce qui nous intéresse c’est la durée des journées. Or, en respectant l’emplacement des mois par rapport à leurs saisons respectives (telles qu’indiquées par leurs noms), on voit que le mois de Ramadan tombe dans une période où les journées ont des durées similaires à travers la Terre entière (peu importe si on parle de l’hémisphère nord ou sud). Concernant l’an 636, j’avais oublié qu’il s’agissait plutôt d’évènements qui se sont passés quelques années après le décès du prophète. Mais cela ne change en rien l’argument en question, puisque le but était de montrer que le calendrier purement lunaire n’était pas utilisé à l’époque du prophète (que ce soit quand il était encore en vie ou juste quelques années après sa mort).
One last Puzzle. Al Quran tells us in 2:185 that “The month of Ramadhān [is that] in which was revealed the Qur'ān, a guid-ance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion”. My point is that it was revealed over a period time; not in a month. Isn’t it logical for the muslim to follow the lunar calendar only not Luni solar calendar. Salam.
Whether you follow a lunar calendar or a lunisolar calendar, the month of Ramadan would still only come once a year. (In both calendars, Ramadan is just 1 of 12 months. The only difference between the two calendars is whether the 12 months switch seasons or whether they are related to specific seasons. But in both cases the month of Ramadan only comes once a year). So if you understand verse 2:185 as saying that the entire Quran was sent down in the month of Ramadan, it is still more logical to follow a lunisolar calendar. Not only is this the original calendar that Muhammad was following, but the Quran itself also encourages us to follow it (in verses 6:96, 10:5, and 18:25). The purely lunar calendar has no basis in the Quran. Not to mention that it makes no sense from a scientific/mathematical perspective. The only thing that is supporting the purely lunar calendar is a contradictory “hadith” accusing Muhammad of following a wrong calendar for his entire life. Moreover, verse 2:185 isn’t necessarily referring to the entire Quran. It could be referring to just a part of the Quran. Consider verses 7:204, 16:98, 17:45, and 84:21. All use the word “Quran” without necessarily referring to the entire Book, just part of it. Also, verse 97:1 states that it was sent down on the night of Al-Qadr. Does this mean that the Quran only got sent down one night per year over the course of 23 years? Possibly. But, again, not necessarily. Salam.
Simply Muslim Alhamdulillah. Thank you sister. Yes, i want to believe that The Quran was revealed in one month not over the period of 23 years. Only then, it corespondents with other verses supporting lunisolar calendar. Allah bless you. Regards and Salam.
I just came across your video. It is very useful video, the one I have been looking for. So if we follow luni-solar calendar when is Ramadan?. Thank you and god bless you.
Salam Harimurti. I realize now that my reply may not have been very clear. Basically, the month of Ramadan doesn't have a proper monthly equivalent in the Gregorian calendar. It falls sometime between September and October, but the exact day will change every year. However, because the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it works exactly the same way as any other lunisolar calendar. So you can use any lunisolar calendar to figure out when Ramadan would fall each year. I personally found more resources for the Chinese Calendar, so that's what I'm currently using as a reference. Ramadan is equivalent to the 9th month of the Chinese Calendar. Hope this helps. Peace.
@@SimplyMuslim Thank you for your clarification to my question. I need practical way to determine start of Ramadan. There are websites, which give lunisolar calendar, such as sunmooncalendar.com. New moon on September this year will be on 29 or 30. Is it the start of Ramadan this year ? But the equinox will be on September 21st. Some suggest equinox is the start of Ramadan.
@@harimurtiwidyasena5582 That's true. The reason the month won't always start on the day of the equinox is because months depend on the lunar cycle while the equinox depends on the seasonal cycle. These 2 cycles aren't always in synch. (In fact, they are rarely perfectly aligned). And because of that, the month of Ramadan will rarely fall _exactly_ on the day of the equinox. Most of the time, it will fall _around_ that period. In Autumn, it is during the period around late September and October, that day-length would be similar across all the countries in the world. (This link: www.timeanddate.com/sun/ is to a website that allows you to see the sunrise/sunset and daylength of different cities around the world). In general, it is by comparing the northernmost city (Norilsk, Russia) to the city closest to the equator (Quito, Ecuador) that you would notice the biggest difference in daylength. Right now (in May 2019) the difference is about 12h, with daylength lasting *24h* in Norislk! (So, technically, if there are Muslims there, they can never stop fasting...). But in late September and October, the biggest difference between these two cities is only about 3h. And, you're right. According to the lunisolar calendar, Ramadan starts on September 29th this year. Peace.
Generally we know that within any given period of 19 years, we need to have 7 leap years (each containing an added 13th month). Technically, we just need to add these 7 leap months at some point. It doesn't really matter when exactly we add them, as long as we do it within the 19-year cycle. But in order to ensure that the months don't drift too much from their respective seasons, most lunisolar calendars insert the leap months every 2-3 years. Where exactly they insert this leap month within the year depends on the agreed-upon convention. For instance, the Jewish Calendar always adds the leap month after Adar, while the Chinese Calendar adds it whenever they count 13 new moons between the 11th month of a year and the 11th month of the next year. If you want more details on the calculations involved to determine the leap month, then you might find this article interesting: calendars.wikia.org/wiki/Lunisolar_calendar
@@shamalannn9085 i know prophet Muhammad used a luni solar calendar...but then it was Changed...and currently this hijri calender in lunar calendar...we need to change this calendar
This is confusing, If you follow the solar years for the months the Ramadan would be in Septmeber, then you just simply fast when you see the new moon in September. You are then following the verse 6:96. Its that simple.
This video isn't about Ramadan. It was meant to achieve 2 things: 1. Prove that the calendar mentioned in the Quran is the lunisolar one. 2. Briefly explain how the lunisolar calendar works for those who are interested in the mechanism behind it. For the timing of Ramadan, I made a separate video.
Salam. Which is better? The opinion of a scholar, or the Message written by Muhammad (the Messenger of God)? I was careful not to present any opinions (i.e. views not necessarily based on facts). Every point I made is backed up by proofs from the Quran, science, mathematics, and/or archaeology. Whether some scholar's opinion matches this or not is irrelevant. I have presented my proofs. If a scholar disagrees, he/she must _prove_ me wrong. Peace.
@@mohsingillani8253 Salallahu 3aleyhi wa Aali wa Salam. During Salat it is after tashahud also obligatory to ask All for salawat on the prophet Mohamed wa Aali Mohamed like He gave it to Ibrahim wa Aali Ibrahim. The prophet himself said that it is not enough to say salawat upon the prophet and stop there, we have to say wa Aali wa Salam after it.
@@SimplyMuslim You mean in the Gregorian calendar ? It's not a sacred calendar. But in the hijri calendar, there is no leap day nor leap year, because Allah wants us to see the time as sacred and when man intervene it kind of "breaks" this sacrality... Abdal Hakim Murad explains this better in this video ruclips.net/video/WbHLmBwygbE/видео.html
Calendars are just tools we use for calculation. There's nothing mystical about it. Surat al-kahf mentions time calculations and the concept of adding leap months.
@@SimplyMuslim How can you say that the islamic calendar is just a "tool" when God says that the Holy Book was revealed in the month of Ramadan and that it is the reason why we must fast in that specific month ?
That's like saying that the pen we use to write the Quran (or the machine we use to print it) is sacred because the Quran is a sacred book. The pen/machine are just tools They're not sacred in and of themselves. Similarly, calendars are tools we use to calculate time. And just because these tools help us identify the occurrence of holy months like Ramadan or the four Forbidden Months, does not mean that the tools themselves are sacred.
@@oliverf.68 Because the Hegira (which is taken to be Year 1) occured in 622 AD. Note, however, that taking the event of Hegira as the starting point of the calendar is simply a convention. We could have taken any other point as Year 1 and it wouldn't have made a difference in the calendar (as long as we remain consistent).
Let me explain: She believes the Islamic calendar is lunisolar just like the Hebrew and Chinese calendars. Therefore according to her, we were in 1398 H (now 1401 H). However, acc to the lunar Islamic calendar, we are now in 1445 H.
The more I learn about Islam the more I am amazed and the more I fall in love with it. Thank you so much for this!
Ramadan mubarak
It is like a puzzle clicking into place in my head.
The Quran also calculate the speed of light, someone has posted it on youtube how The Quran explain it similarly like this islamic calender calculation that Quran revealed, im very fascinating about it but when you study it deeper then you’ll see why or God explaining in Surah Al-Imran verse 7, meaning The Quran itself can become a guidance to a believer and also can become a cause of misguidance to a non-believer also God warn us thru the Quran someone can stray afar from islam also someone can become believer with it in surah An-Nahl verse 93, meaning this life is all about THE TEST so He will revealed it in the afterlife to us that who is the true BELIEVER and who is THE NON-BELIEVER with a very-very clear line that seperate them apart …
the speed of light = ruclips.net/video/TkvQluFXSXI/видео.html
Same here man, i come from atheist to believe in God after 30 years of my life experience
madness only have 12 months . then you pretend there's not 13 on every 3rd year. funny. there is no way to tell me about the extra month without saying there is a extra month
Great content..... Once again had my faith refreshed. Thanks to Allah (swt) I am a born muslim.
Do you know the meaning of Ramadan
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it comes from term رمـض (ramadh)
meaning the late summer/early autumn rains.
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Your not Islamic
Thank you for breaking this down for someone who is neither Islamic nor one who lives in a part of the world with many Islamic neighbors. It was very intriguing and I feel the need to research even more about this!
Thank you, Rebeca!
May God bless you! I am Muslim convert
@@Emerald-xu9bm you too. :)
@@rebecasandstrom6526 I'm curious to know after this years what you found in your research ?
@@mf1787 oh hello! I haven’t taken a really deep dive into Islam beliefs, cultures, and lifestyle, but I did get to learn a lot about Islam during my college course Women in Religion. We learned quite a bit, but something that really stood out to me was Islamic mosques. From what I learned, it is not acceptable to depict Allah in a drawing or visual rendering, but the Arabic script itself is considered holy in the sense that Allah’s beauty and power can be portrayed through the script, which is why there are many Arabic inscriptions in mosques. I hope I have explained this in a way that is accurate and true to Islam; if I made a mistake, please let me know!
Subahnallah! God is the greatest! Verily Quran is the true book!
I got goosebumps near the end. Subhanallah. Quran is such a miracle. It's a bless for us Muslim able to read Quran. May Allah make this Lunisolar calendar more recognisable.
I've been saying this for over 20 years now and have been fasting during the lunar month close to the Autumn equinox. You've done a great job with your presentation. I'm glad to see we aren't as few as it seemed to be. Keep up the good work and may Allah bless your efforts. Don't be discouraged by any naysayers. Peace.
Wow 20 years is quite impressive! You must have a lot of patience. May Allah reward you for standing up for the truth (even when you were alone) and never getting discouraged by the majority. Alhamdulillah a few more of us are waking up now.
@@J L Peace be upon you, I wanted to clarify to you that Muslims don't worship that day (Friday). We congregate on that day to worship the Creator of the heavens and earth and that which is between them (heavens and earth).
The last and final Messenger said: "The best day on which the sun rises is Friday. [On Friday] Adam was created and on that day he entered paradise and on that day he was expelled from paradise. And the Hour will come to pass on Friday."
@@MohamedHassan-ni6un Assalamualaykum brother. I think it is important to note that Friday isn't the name of our jum'uah. Look up the meaning of the day "friday" on google and you will be shocked.
@@mohsingillani8253 wa alaykuma salaam, thank you brother. May Allah strengthen our Arabic language so we may worship Him better.
@@mohsingillani8253Salam. C'est exact mon frère 🙏
My mind is blowing up after watching this
Well presented. Would love to see more videos.
Thank you!
Bismillah ir Rahman and Raheem.
19 letters.
-114 chapter , multiple of 19 x 6.
- First Revelation in Surah Alaq - 19 Words & 76 letters (19 x 4).
- Surah Alaq in reverse order it comes as 19 number Surah.
- Last Quranic revelation Surah Nasar consist of 19 words.
- First verse of last revelation in Surah Nasar consist of 19 letters.
And many more…. Number 19 is a key.
Please add more knowledgeable videos like these. Your content is amazing
Thank you so much for this detailed and clear video. May Allah (SWT) reward you greatly for your efforts 🌷
I’m only 16 and am Mexican an very fascinated with Islam
I'm Guatemalan, and I have accepted Islam.
Al Kahf ayat 25, "They remained in the Cave for three hundred years; and others added nine more years."
Yeah one group is wrong the one who said 309 years; 309 lunisolar year equal 300 years (sanat)
Wow your presentation is so good. Please upload more for other topic.
Thank you :)
You can create a pretty good lunisolar calendar by counting Islamic months, but always skipping over two of them, and starting over each time you reach 28. By doing this, you will create 12 fixed times in the year: the number of each month is the day of that month when the next fixed time occurs, and the two skipped months take the number of the last month. This would be much easier to use than a Metonic cycle, and much more useful.
MasyaAllah, thanks for the great content
Masha-allah sister, really good content. Well explained and many other qualities.
I just saw your vid and i was too happy i rushed to see your channel for more vids and i was surprised you stopped and tge vid is 5 years old 😢 i hope you make more vids it was great ty
I think it is very important to study time in our deen. It is a sensitive subject. Sister are you aware of the word "friday". According to google it has a very shocking meaning
"Old English Frīgedæg ‘day of Frigga’, named after the Germanic goddess Frigga, wife of the supreme god Odin and goddess of married love; translation of late Latin Veneris dies ‘day of Venus’, Frigga being equated with the Roman goddess of love, Venus. Compare with Dutch vrijdag and German Freitag".
We should all just say jum'uah.
My soul is refreshed whith iman
Great Analysis !
I was just reading about oldest Arabic papyrus and I found out that is PERF 558. It has both Islamic and Coptic dates on it!
Islamic date is: جمادي الاول year 22 AH
Coptic date corresponds to April 25 th 643
As you can see Islamic month is matching with gregorian month which confirms Muslim who wrote it was using a lunisolar calendar. Further proving your argument.
That's very interesting! Thank you for sharing this information
Hi thanks for your interesting comment I google it and I found that they used lunar calendar the fact that jumada give us April is only an accident
It doesn't mean they didn't use lunar calendar I will give you the proof with a online conversion calendar : www.aly-abbara.com/utilitaires/calendrier/calendrier_hijir.html
So yeah the date of the papyrus match with April in Julian calendar but you can check other year and you see that the month doesn't match anymore
Wow how can I didn't knew about this before Subhanallahhh
wow what a great job … and what a great accent you have of both Arabic and English...how admirable presentation...plz give your net contact...may be you too meet a curious muslim god willing... be blessed
Thank you very much. May God bless you. My email is justacuriousmuslim@gmail.com
Ramadan Mubarak everyone!
I like the idea of the Lunisolar calendar's compensating for the 11 days by skipping 3 times then compiling it into another "month" of sorts. its kinda similar to when in the Solar Calendar, February gets an extra day every 4 years. this is due to the fact that in actuality, the solar year lasts 365 days and 6 hours, but we typically don't regard those 6 hours. 4 years later that time amounts to a full day, therefore we give February its 29th day every 4 years.
Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh. Great Knowledge, May Allah bless you with more knowledge and health
Surah 18 ayat 25-26 Al Khaf
I'm sure shows us that the companions of the Prophet (SAW) were using a Solar tropical calendar, it exposes Lunar.
Also Surah 10 verse 5 is worth looking into also.
Salaam.
Salam. Yes, you are right. Those verses are important too. I did place Surah 10 verse 5 as the end screen for this video (as a final conclusion). And I do talk about Surah 18 (Al Kahf) towards the end of my third video: An-Nasi'.
Assalamu alaykum,
So if we were to follow the lunisolar calendar, that would mean Ramadan would never fall on a month where the sun doesn't set, because with the current lunar calendar, Muslims living in northern countries such as Norway will have years where they would have to fast 24 hours every day which is impossible and actually happened I believe this year or previous years. This is what convinced me that the lunar calendar cannot be the correct Islamic calendar.
Wa aleykum as-salam, yes! That is very true. If we followed the correct calendar, Ramadan would always fall around September or October. And during this period, day-length is similar everywhere on Earth. (The difference between the northern regions and the equatorial regions would only be a 3h hours at most).
Simply Muslim I have a question for you. Do you completely reject all Hadith and if you do could you please tell me why?
@@Gazus12345 I do reject all hadith books. There are many reasons for this. But here is one of them:
When the Messenger Muhammad died, he only left us _one_ Book: the Quran.
In verse 59:7, the Quran tells us to take whatever the Messenger has given us, and to forbid what he has forbidden us. What did the Messenger give us? What is the one book he conserved for _us,_ the next generations? The Quran.
And what was Muhammad’s _only_ complaint about his people? See verse 25:30.
Besides the Quran, did Muhammad leave hadith books for us? No. Other men gave us these books - Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizi, Ibn Hanbal, Ibn Maja, Abu Dawud, etc.
Who are these men?
Did they live with Muhammad? No.
Did Muhammad assign them to write hadith books? No.
Were they Messengers? Did they receive revelations from God? No.
All of these men came *centuries* after Muhammad passed away. They travelled around collecting rumors (many of which are terrible accusations against Muhammad). And now we are told that Islam cannot be correctly followed without these hadith books. In other words, if it weren’t for men like Bukhari, Islam would have been lost… So, we see that once again the scholars are implying that Muhammad failed to properly complete his mission before he died.
Had the Quran not been enough, surely, Muhammad would have added the missing important instructions! Knowing that he would be the last Messenger, he would have either written them himself, or at least commanded the sahaba to keep records. But Muhammad did not do that.
The explanation that Bukhari tries to give for this problem is a clumsy one. According to Bukhari, Muhammad actually commanded his people _not_ to write hadith books because he feared they would get mixed up with the Quran. But this is not logical. Because verses 53:3 and 53:4 tell us that any commandment Muhammad gave to his people was revealed to Him from God. He only commands what God reveals to Him. And since the Quran is also revealed from God, it’s the same source! So, there should be no problem with mixing the Quran and the hadith (since they are ultimately both revelations from God), and _especially_ if both are necessary to correctly follow Islam! Therefore, Bukhari’s explanation is not logical.
If you want even more solid proofs from the Quran showing us that true Islam is based on the Quran alone, send me an e-mail at justacuriousmuslim@gmail.com and I will share with you a much more detailed response.
Peace.
@@SimplyMuslim so how come we know about methodology of prayers or even know that there are five obligatory prayers for Muslims if we take Quran only as a source to learn Deen ?
Thank you for your comment, Memoona Shaukat.
When the Messenger Muhammad passed away, he left behind one Book: the Quran. That's the Message he himself conserved in manuscripts for the next generations. And, for the first few centuries, that was indeed the only source Muslims relied upon to learn Deen.
Do you think that the Messenger Muhammad failed to properly complete his mission? Do you think that without men like Bukhari and others who went around collecting rumors _centuries_ later Islam would have been lost? If Isam needed another set of books to explain the Quran, how come the Messenger Muhammad didn't write them himself like he wrote the Quran to conserve it for the next generation?
The Quran contains all the instructions we need to worship God properly, as evidenced by the following verses: 6:38, 6:114, 16:89, 19:64, 44:2-6. Furthermore, in verse 29:51, God criticizes those who believe that the Quran is not enough. And what was the Messenger's only complaint about his people? (See 25:30)
Regarding Prayer, the Message the Prophet Muhammad conserved tells us:
- How to make wudu (4:43, 5:6)
- Which direction to face (2:125 and 2:143-150, 22:26)
- How to pray:
> Explicitely refers to the 3 prayer positions: standing, bowing, prostraing (2:238, 3:39, 4:102, 22:26, 38:24, 48:29)
> Explains that during prayer we must glorify God and recite the Quran (6:162, 17:111, 20:14, 29:45)
> Even tells us how loud we must recite the Quran during prayer (17:110)
- When to pray (11:114, 17:78-79, 24:58, 73:2-4) => Notice that the Quran repeats over and over again that there is a total of 3 prayers: one at the two ends of the day (fajr and isha) and one around the middle of the night. The fact that there is no prayer during the day is made especially clear in 24:58. Notice how God refers to dawn, noon, and evening, yet only dawn (fajr) and evening (isha) have a prayer associated to them. When God mentions the noon time, He makes no reference to a prayer.
Of course, these are my personal beliefs. So, if you disagree, I respect your different beliefs.
Peace.
Hi! I was looking exactly for this!
Great content!
There are some things that the majority of muslim do just because they are told so. Without any critical thinking.
And I think this may be one example upon many others.
I would like to contact you, is there an email or a page I can write to? Thank you!
Keep on the great work!
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
My email address is: justacuriousmuslim@gmail.com
Main question is to ask is when Muslims started to follow lunar calendar. And who linked Islamic festivals to lunar calendar. If u can make a video on that history.
It is speculated that Muslims likely started following the lunar-only calendar around two generations after the prophet's passing. There is an ancient Arabic poem that Shias attribute to the messenger's grandson who allegedly complains about how many Muslims at his time were no longer observing the month of Ramadan during its correct period.
Selam sister. I found your video while investigating the subject of months/calendar in the Qur'an to see if the current system we're using is incorrect (by any chance). This is certainly an interesting presentation. I've also watched your video titled "forgotten meanings of the Islamic months", which supports your claim here. But I'm taking all this with a grain of salt at the moment since I wasn't expecting such a different answer. For now though, I'd like to ask you a simple question.
Suppose I know absolutely nothing of the calendars Arabs have used so far and am trying to find out when to fast and when to go to pilgrimmage from Quranic verses alone. What answer do you think I will find? (and please justify it with corresponding verses.)
Thanks in advance.
Salam. The first time ‘fasting’ was mentioned in the Quran is in verse 2:183, to remind us that others before us were also instructed to fast. Then in verse 2:184, we are told that this fasting is to occur during
“أياما معدودات” (i.e. a finite number of 3 or more days).
At this point, we might have 2 questions:
1- When exactly during the year do these “أياما معدودات” happen?
2- What is the specific number of days we are expected to fast for?
The following verse (2:185) tells us that we should fast the month of Ramadan. This answers the question of when (the month of Ramadan) and how many days (29-30 depending on the year).
Let's assume you have never heard of Islam before and have stumbled across the Quran for the first time. You would still know that “Ramadan” is the name of a month, because verse 2:185 states so. And since you also know that the Quran’s language is Arabic (based on many verses including 12:2, 13:37, 41:3, etc.), you would be able to conclude that Ramadan must be one of the months of the Arabic calendar. At this point, you would need to make some research on the Arabic calendar to find out which of the 12 months corresponds to Ramadan.
The Quran gives us enough detail that points us in the correct direction, but it is up to us to use the minds and logic that God gave to make research and learn more.
@@SimplyMuslim Allaahumma barik, a great answer for a question by some Qur'an only muslims.
Interesting,
Why then month of Ramadan comes 10 days earlier than previous year every year?
Okay, where can we find the correct calendar? Please advise.
I personally observe when it seems to be the first month of autumn and that's when I will fast the month of Ramadan in shaa Allah. According to my observation it seems to be not the next crescent moon but the crescent moon after that which is the begining of the month of Ramadan if you live like where I live in the northern hemisphere.
1) The true Islamic Calendar is Luni-Solar. Meaning it takes both the moon and the sun into account.
2) The new year DOES NOT begin with Muharram. It begins with Rabi al Awal. Why? Not only because Rabi al Awal is the month in which the prophet (pbuh) made the Hijra. But also because the new year begins in Spring rather than in the dead of Winter.
3) This means that the Islamic New Year begins with the new moon that is born between March 20 and April 17.
Here are the months in order:
1) Rabi al Awal
2) Rabi al Thani
3) Jumada al Awal
4) Jumada al Thani
5) Rajab
6) Shaban
7) Ramadan
8) Shawwal
9) Dhul Qidda
10) Dhul Hijjah
11) Safar al Awal
12) Safar al Thani
13) Muharram (The leap month that is added every 2-3 years)
As for when the Hijri year and Ramadan starts for the following years:
2024: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 10th of April.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 4th of October
2025: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 30th of March.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 23rd of September
2026: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 18th of April.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 12th of October
2027: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 8th of April.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 1st of October
Can you put Italian caption please
Great video!! Thank you
where can I get the lunisolar calendar?
Great video!
Awesomeness thank you 💞🙏💞
The discussion about Rabi' al-Awwal is pretty deep. It means the first of Spring. But because Islam is based on the lunar calendar, Rabi' al-Awwal could take place on the first day of Fall (or Winter or Summer or anytime). Which is fine if that works for you.
In Judaism, time is dependent on the lunar cycle. The problem is that the Torah requires that Passover (aka Pesach) be observed in the Spring (Spring is based on the solar year) AND on the 15th of the Hebrew month of Nissan (Hebrew month based on the lunar year). How can this happen consistently year in and year out if the lunar year is around 10-11 days shorter than the solar year?
This is why the Torah CLEARLY gives the power to the People/Court/Beit Din to establish a new/leap month (see Exodus Chapter 12 and the use of the Hebrew words "HaChodesh Hazeh Lachem..." or "The months shall be for YOU to establish...) - in order to ensure the Holiday of Passover (aka Pesach) is celebrated in the Spring season, in accordance with the Torah's requirement. It's worthwhile to note that in the year 400, Hillel determined all future required leap months in perpetuity - so there is no requirement to declare one via the People/Court/Beit Din.
This is just one example of why it is clear that G-d wanted the Jews/Sages to study and expound on the Torah (i.e. via the Mishna/Talmud). Orthodox Jews believe that the Mishna/Talmud were transmitted to Moses at Sinai.
Ramadan mubarak in advance.
Thank you!! Ramadan Mubarak to you too :)
When Ramadan have started?
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@@SN-qg6jh thank you brother/sister :)
@@monkeydmo6604 brother😁.welcome.
Wonderful channel! I encourage for more content... Please!
Thank you Mounia!
lunar شهر قمري = ٢٩ يوم و١٢ ساعة و٤٤ دقيقة و٢،٨٧ثانية
Solar شمسي( ٣٠ يوم و١٠ ساعة و٢٩ دقيقة و ٤،١ ثانية )
Calendar
تقويمي
تختلف ايامه من ٢٨ إلى ٣١ يوم ....
Rabi ul awwal is not about season, it is something more. If you see the things happened in this month, you may understand.
Ramadan Kareem 4-10-24!
Salamun alaikum, hope u can clarify my confusion, by replying to my question. F we were to follow lunisolar calindar, month of hajj s fast approaching, probably between December & January. In ur calculation when will b d Arafat day? I am planning to go for hajj now. F i cant reach anymore, so may b nxt year 2023 i will go. I am so greatful & feel honor to have ur answer. More power , may d All Mighty invrease ur knowledge & reward ur great efforts. Maasalam..
Not sure if this channel owner is till active; but I was wondering about your opinion is about the 4 sacred months
Why don't you upload more content
I have a doubt
Each month in islamic calender starts a day next to new moon right ?
سبحان الله و بحمده، سبحان الله العظيم
ما شاء الله، الله أكبر، لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله
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🥀اَللّٰھُمَّ صَلِّ عَلٰـی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلٰیٓ اٰل ِمُحَمَّدٍ کَمَا صَلَّیْتَـــ عَلٰی اِبْرَاھِیْمَ وَعَلٰیٓ اٰلِ اِبْرَاھِیْمَ اِنَّکَـــ حَمِیْدٌ مَّجِید ۔ اَللّٰھُمَّ بَارِکْـــ عَلٰی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلٰیٓ اٰل ِمُحَمَّدٍ کَمَـــا بَارَکْتَـــ عَلٰی اِبْرَاھِیْمَ وَعَلٰیٓ اٰلِ اِبْرَاھِیْمَ اِنَّکَــــ حَمِیْد مَّجِید🥀
اللهم اغفرلنا وللمؤمنين والمؤمنات والمسلمين والمسلمات وألف بين قلوبهم وأصلح ذات بينهم وانصرهم على عدوك وعدوهم
اللهم امين
Salam Simply muslim,
On the calendar issue. There are verse that I am looking for clarification. In verse 10:5 the word Manazilla is commonly translated as phase but there are also that understand it as point of location (in the constellation?) which fit better with your presented luni-solar calendar. However the manazilla also appear in 36:39 which made me confused. Kindly if you can help me out to understand 36:39 especially in relation to the word manazilla. So if yiu can explain verse 36:39. Thank you in advance.
It refers to the 28 Lunar mansions, NOT the phases of the moon. This is a result of the wrong adoption of the Hijri calndar currently in use which was never a lunar Calendar, in fact no nation on earth around Arabia in the time and after the time of the Prophet PBUH used a lunar calendar. It was either lunisolar like the Assyrians, Persians, Chinese and Arabs or a Solar one like the Romans and the Byzantine Empire.
Thank you very much for this. I am a student of Classical Chinese medicine and I was hypothesizing a similar conclusion. I was wondering if I can somehow connect with you to discuss my findings, Because I had conducted this with pathology, physiology, direction, organs, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
That sounds really interesting! Thank you for your comment, and yes you can send me an email at justacuriousmuslim@gmail.com
can i get cc’d in on this conversation ??
@@deeo5788 what is your background? send me some info and I can look into it
Dear sister have you heard about the blue moon? ( 7 times in 19 years) The "blue moon" reference is applied to the third full moon in a season with four full moons, thus correcting the timing of the last month of a season that would have otherwise been expected too early. This happens every two to three years (seven times in the Metonic cycle of 19 years). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_moon
Thank you for sharing this. Yes, I have heard of this. The "blue moon" is simply a consequence of the Metonic cycle. Basically, if you only follow a solar calendar and keep track of the moon phases in a separate calendar, you'll notice that some years have 13 full moons instead of 12. You're basically noticing the two cycles (solar and lunar) in action.
But the lunisolar calendar automatically accounts for this. What would be perceived as a "blue moon" by the followers of a solar-only calendar is simply a regular full moon that falls on a leap year for the followers of the lunisolar calendar.
Please make more videos ❤
Salamu Alaykom. How come is it thst we need 7 leap years in a cycle of 19?Every how many should we add a leap month?
Wa alaykum as-Salam. Thank you for your comment. The 7 leap years are needed to synchronize the two cycles (lunar and solar).
• 19 solar years are approximately 6939.75 days (= 19 years x 365.25 days)
• 19 years made of 12 lunar months are approximately 6732.84 days (= 19 years x 12 months x 29.53 days)
• Missing (leap) days: 19 "solar years" - 19 "years made of 12 lunar months" =
6939.75 days - 6732.84 days = 206.91 days.
So, after a period of 19 years, the lunar calendar is missing 207 days. (Which means that we must add 207 days throughout the 19 years, in order to place the months back within their respective seasons).
How will we add these 207 days without messing up the cycle of moon phases and the seasonal cycle? The best way to do this is by adding these missing days in the form of leap months.
• Converting days to months: (206.91 days)/29.53 days = 7.007 months
So, approximately 7 leap months must be added to compensate for the missing days. This means that during a period of 19 years, 7 will be leap years (containing 13 months each) and 12 will be regular years (containing 12 months each).
Technically, it doesn't really matter when exactly you add the 7 leaps months during your 19 year cycle (as long as you do add them eventually). But, by convention, lunisolar calendars will usually add a leap month every 2-3 years.
So have we been fasting the wrong ramadan?
Where did you get that the word "year" was mentioned 19 times? i looked it up and it's 16
Thk-you ma'am & enlightening,
?What is the is the Least Common Multiple (LCD) of a solar cycle & 12 moon cycles of time?
?Does any calender utilize this LCM for their calender? (ex: ?Maya calendar?)
The LCM of the solar cycle and 12 mons is actually the 19 years, or Metonic cycle mentioned in this video. Most lunisolar calendars are based on this cycle.
@@SimplyMuslim Thks ma'am & I'm just a curious retired scientist,
It always awesome to me how empirical math/sci concepts are the same across all the-world. Maybe it is true we-all are mostly clones compared to other mammals.
It would seem the current delta between the sun & moon calenders allows users of the sun calendar, moon calendar, or some combination to arbitrarily translate between all of them ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonic_cycle .
Just learning something interesting/new, thks-again.
Dear friend, your videos are interesting.
Could you please make additional videos if you have free time.
I am patiently waiting for your new videos.
Hi, if we follow the correct luni solar calendar why was the war of Badr of13 March 624 CE was said to be in the month of Ramadhan if according to you should fall within September? when it was in March
Hello,
Events like the Battle of Badr were not recorded by the Romans. They were only recorded by Arabs in the Hijri calendar, and they didn't use the Gregorian calendar at the time. So, the Gregorian dates that you see for these events are estimations made by later scholars. These estimations were calculated based on the "lunar-only calendar". However, the calculations made by these scholars are wrong. And here is the proof:
For my proof, I am going to focus on 3 battles that occurred in 1 year.
The Year is 15 Hijri (or 636 A.D.).
The Battles are: the Battle of Yarmouk, the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah, and the Siege of Jerusalem.
Two of these battles were recorded by both Arabs and Romans at the time of the events (so we have the dates in both Hijri and Gregorian). One was recorded only by Arabs (and converted into Gregorian by later scholars).
The proof will demonstrate that the original Arabic calendar (used by the early Muslims) was luni-solar. The proof will also show that contradictions occur when the later scholars try to convert a Hijri date into a Gregorian date using a lunar-only calendar.
*PROOF*
Consider the Battle of Yarmouk: A battle between Arabs and Romans. Both Arabs and Romans recorded the event. Arabs recorded the date as Rajab in Year 15 Hijri. Romans recorded the date as August in Year 636 A.D.
Now consider the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah: A battle between Arabs and Persians. This event was only recorded by Arabs. Romans didn't record it because it didn't concern them. And we don't have Persian records because their civilization was destroyed. So, only Arab records remained for the battle of al-Qadisiyyah. Arabs recorded the date as Shaban in Year 15 Hijri.
In other words, the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah occurred 1 month after the Battle of Yarmouk.
For events like the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah, the Hijri dates were converted into Gregorian dates by later scholars. These scholars started using the wrong (lunar-only) calendar to make their calculations. So, they placed the battle of al-Qadisiyyah in November.
But we now have a contradiction. Arab records tell us this battle occurred only 1 month after Yarmouk, not 3!
Therefore, this proves that the scholars who later converted the Hijri dates into Gregorian were using wrong calculations.
Now consider the Siege of Jerusalem: Another battle between Arabs and Romans. So, once again, both Arabs and Romans recorded the event. Arabs recorded the date as Shawwal in Year 15 Hijri. Romans recorded the date as November in Year 636 A.D. See? The month equivalences are once again consistent with the luni-solar calendar.
And we also notice a second contradiction with the date for the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah: The scholars who later converted the Hijri month to Gregorian placed the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah in November. However, this is the month during which the Siege of Jerusalem occurred! So, these scholars are telling us that the 2 events occurred in the same month. Yet, Arab records show that they occurred in two completely different months. So this, once again, proves that the scholars who later converted the dates were not using the same calendar that was used by the Arabs (and early Muslims) at the time of these events.
Whenever an event is recorded by both Arabs and Romans, the Arabic months are consistent with the luni-solar calendar.
Contradictions occur when an event is only recorded by Arabs and then we depend on later scholars to convert the dates from Hijri to Gregorian. These contradictions exist because the scholars are no longer using the original calendar adopted by the early Muslims.
@@SimplyMuslim astonishing facts.
I recently came across another piece of evidence concerning the battle of Badr.
To understand the context, note that many Arabs in Mecca took two regular trips during the year (which were mentioned in verse 106:2):
- The Winter trip was an annual trip from Mecca to Yemen. Every winter, some Meccans moved to the South, where the weather is warmer. Then they returned to Mecca by the end of Winter (around March).
- The Summer trip was an annual trip from Mecca to Syria. Every summer, some Meccans moved up North, where the weather is cooler. Then they returned to Mecca by the end of Summer (around September).
Now consider the battle of Badr. Historical records by the early Muslims indicate that the battle of Badr took place in Ramadan of the year 2 H. The records also tell us that this event occurred after the annual trip back from Syria. Since the caravan was coming back to Mecca from Syria, this must have been the end of the Summer trip.
Yet, when converting the Hijri dates to Gregorian dates, scholars who rely on the lunar-only calendar place the battle of Badr in the month of March, which would have been the end of Winter not the end of Summer. This creates a contradiction since the annual Winter trip was the one going to Yemen, not Syria. Meccans avoided Syria during the Winter since it was too cold.
But if we follow the lunisolar calendar, Ramadan would correspond to September/October in the Gregorian calendar, which indeed is the end of Summer, and that is precisely the period during which Meccans were known to return from Syria.
@@SimplyMuslim Thank you for this information. Can you make a video on this please? I'd love to hear more.
Salaam sister, do you have a calendar to follow? i would like to fast on real ramadan but i don’t know when it is.. thank you for your videos
Salam, thank you for your comment :) You can rely on any lunisolar calendar since they all basically work the same way. Personally, I've started using the Jewish calendar, since it's very similar to the original Islamic calendar and there are clear month-to-month correspondences between the two calendars. For instance, Ramadan in the Islamic calendar is equivalent to the month of Tishrei in the Jewish calendar.
@@SimplyMuslim may the Allmighty, Most Merciful, one and only God bless you❣️
@@asapscapegoat thank you!!
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It was a nice video but i jst want to ask u one thing where im confused is that u said in the video that islamic calendar is lunisolar but in reality its strictly follow lunar calendar its only dependent on the moon
Thank you for your comment. The calendar I am referring to in this video is the original Islamic calendar based on the Quran. This is the calendar that was followed by the earlier Muslims at the time of the Messenger Muhammad.
Today's lunar-only calendar is a cultural modification. I explain where the confusion stems from in my 3rd video (An-Nasi').
Salam,
If you can elaborate more if the leap month/day does not mean to add a month become 13. In this video you mentioned is just adding back days that were not
accounted for. If you can give sort of illustration in more detail, because this is seems like adding a month become 13 is the strong argument of why they use lunar Calendar. \
Also, what your interpretation of verse (18:25) about who stayed in their Cave for three hundred years (sinīna) and added nine which they claims to be 300 years lunar Calendar + 9 which indicates the different with other Calendar system (solar).
Thank you in advance,
Salam, the key is to understand that there is a difference between the calendar and the year. The calendar is how many different months we work with. In our case, the Quran clearly indicates that we should have 12 _calendar_ months.
The leap month is not a 13th month in the calendar. It's just a placeholder consisting of missed days from previous years. In other words, when we add a leap month during a year, the calendar still has only 12 months (we didn't create an _extra_ month, we just added the past _missed_ days in a convenient manner; instead of adding the 11 days at the end of each year, we waited until they accumulate to 30 days. It's so we don't lose track of the phases of the moon, which is the flaw with the solar-only calendar).
Another way to illustrate this idea:
We have 11 missing days every year. These days need to be accounted for, otherwise our years are too short and our calendar wouldn't be consistent anymore. (Consider that the difference between the Gregorian calendar and today's mainstream lunar-only "Islamic" calendar is no longer 622 years but 576 years. i.e. By not keeping track of the missed days, they're now missing 43 years! If this continues, eventually, this lunar-only calendar will actually be _ahead_ of the Gregorian calendar! In other words, there's no consistency. How can this calendar be used to keep track of events accurately? It can't.).
Since we absolutely do need to account for the missed days if we want our calendar to remain consistent, our next challenge is to figure out _how_ we add these missed days to our year.
To account for the 11 missing days, the Gregorian calendar adds 1 day to almost all of its months. While this is a simple solution, it comes at a cost: their months are no longer synchronized with the moon phases. The Quran tells us that we should ensure that our calendar keeps track of the moon phases too for religious purposes. So, given these constraints, what's our best solution?
The only way to make sure that our months remain lunar (i.e. in synch with the lunar phases) and our years remain solar (i.e. in synch with the seasonal cycle) is to add 29 or 30 days at a time. This method takes 19 years to completely bring back the months to their original position relative to the seasons. So, yes, it's a slightly more complicated concept (although it becomes quite simple and natural once you get used to it), but the advantage is we get to keep track of both cycles (lunar for months and solar for years) at the same time.
I am feeling calendars should be luni-solar.
Buddhist Calendar, Chinese Calendar, Jewish Calendar and Hindu Calendar are Lunisolar Calendar.
Where can i find lunisolar calendar for determining the month of Ramadan & Hajj pilgrimage?
Since the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it works like any other lunisolar calendar. Personally, I have found more resources for the Chinese Calendar, so that’s what I’ve been using as a reference.
Ramadan is also equivalent to the 9th month of the Chinese Calendar.
As for the Hajj Pligrimage, it can take place during any one of the Forbidden Months.
How do we know this?
• Verses 2:194 to 2:196 indicate that Hajj is to take place during a Forbidden Month
• Verse 2:197 states that Hajj is in _months_ well-known using the plural form "أشهر" (which indicates 3 or more months)
• Verse 9:36 reminds us that among the 12 months of the calendar, we have 4 Forbidden Months
By looking at the names of the months of the Islamic Calendar, the Forbidden Months that can easily be determined by name are: Thul-Qa'dah, Thul-Hajjah, and Muharram, (which are also equivalent to the 11th, 12th, and 1st months of the Chinese Calendar)
The 4th one is subject of debate. Personally, I don't think that Rajab is the 4th Forbidden Month since verses 9:1-2 and 9:5 seem to imply that the 4 Forbidden Months are consecutive. Therefore, I reckon that the 4th Forbidden Month is either Shawal or Safar. So far, I have found more evidence for it being Shawal, but I am not 100% certain.
The Hong Kong Observatory website provides a convenient conversion table in PDF format for each year: www.hko.gov.hk/gts/time/conversion.htm
This is what I have been using to determine the dates of the lunisolar calendar in relation to the Gregorian Calendar.
_Note that although their title says "Lunar" calendar, they do add a leap month whenever necessary, so it really is lunisolar calendar_
Peace.
Simply Muslim, peace be upon you. So far, I understood that the islamic calendar is based on lunar cycle only. Thats why, Ramadan month cycles through different months on different year in contrast with Gregorian calendar. Furthermore, as shown on the video that hajj pilgrimage should be between December to February and Ramadan between September to October during equinox time if the islamic calendar based on lunisolar adding the leap every after two years based metonic cycle. Regards.
Simply Muslim
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That means Ramadan is the 9th month which is supposed to begin on 29th September 2019 and hajj which is 12th month should be started from 25th dec 2019?
So the leap year should have a extra month of 33 days???right.
The leap month only has 30 days. The lunar and solar cycles would still be out of sync after the 3rd year. It takes 19 years for the two cycles to go back in sync (that's what we call the "Metonic cycle").
@@SimplyMuslim thanks a lot.
Wait, if what is described in the Quran is a lunisolar calendar are Muslims violating this by following strictly the lunar calendar? The current Muslim Calendar constantly shifts with respect to the Gregorian maybe it wouldn’t shift as much if we followed a lunisolar?
I’m trying to build a time machine what calendar should I follow
That's awesome, but in that case it wouldn't matter which calendar you're using
have you though of "Book of God" كتاب is "Arrangement" instead
can you explain?
@@HeadshooterGTAS كتاب word root meaning is arrangement, later it was rendered as book , if you render it as an "arrangement" in all instances it appears in the scripture, you can find it makes more sense
AlKhaliq always made it so precise. Subhanallah..
Does the month ramadan start depending on new moon or full moon? New moon is 28 sep and full moon sep 14. New moon for aug is 30 aug. When do we start fasting?
The Quran talks about Ramadan in verses 2:185-189. Verse 2:189 refers to the new moons as a way to determine time. There is no mention of full moons. Based on the context, I believe this makes it clear that Ramadan (just like any other month) starts with the new moon.
I reckon Ramadan would start on September 28th this year. This is because _Camel breeding season_ in the Arabian Peninsula always occurs around November, so the month of Shawal should also be around November. But the only way that this would be true is if the previous month (Ramadan) falls around October or begins in late September.
@@SimplyMuslim JazakAllah khayr for the reply! I got confused as month of Ramadan is in september and the new moon is september 28th. Thanks again for the reply and clarification. All the best!
@@SimplyMuslim The new moon is also on Aug 30th and I got confused about the month. I thought that I should start fasting on 30th e.g.
You're a maestro of rhetoric and presentation. Why don't you make any more videos? I noticed it has been 3 years. Hope all is well InshaAllah?
Thank you for your kind words. All is well thank God, I've just been very busy lately. Perhaps I will start posting again if I have more time in the future :)
@@SimplyMuslim I cant wait, really looking forward to it. Wish you all the best, may Allah give you success on this path and make you a means of enlightenment for all of mankind. InshaAllah!
Thank You.
Why is month 1 and 7 and others 30 days instead of 29? Please explain.
A synodic month is about 29.5 days. So, from our perspective on Earth, it sometimes takes 29 days and sometimes 30 days to view a complete cycle of the phases of the moon.
so if it is 29.5 days, then shouldn't it be 30 days once every 2 months to adjust? Maybe its like 29.3 days or something.
@@songzheng3817 Yeah that's right. We get 30 days approximately every other month
wait so does that mean we've been fasting at the wrong ... time
jasmine u might be onto smthn …
Where do you exactly place the leap month? Is there any reason or Quran verse about its placement?
Technically, it doesn't matter when exactly you place the leap month within the leap year (as long as you do count it before moving on to the next year).
This is why different lunisolar calendars have established different conventions for when this leap month is to be added.
In the Jewish Calendar, for example, the leap month is always added after the month of Adar. (So, during leap years, the Jewish calendar will have “Adar I ” and “Adar II”). The month of Adar in the Jewish Calendar is equivalent to the month of Safar in the Islamic Calendar.
Interestingly, if you make research on the ancient Arabic Calendar (which was adopted by the Muslims at the time of Muhammad), you will find that Arabs/Muslims also had a “Safar I” and “Safar II” at some points in time. Note: Some modern scholars speculate that “Safar I” might have been the old name of “Muharram,” but there is no solid proof for this. However, if we consider the many proofs that the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it’s likely that “Safar II” was actually the leap month.
@@SimplyMuslim So, can we place the leap month at will?
@@angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083 As long as it's placed within a leap year, then yes.
To day is august but rain often . Maybe because it coincide with asyura month . It always rainy in that month
33 days are missing in 3 years and a leap month is 30 days , what about the other 3 days ?
Yes, after the first 3 years the solar and lunar cycles are still not perfectly aligned. It takes 19 years for the two cycles to align. We call that 19-year cycle the "Metonic Cycle." I briefly explain how the Metonic Cycle works in the description underneath this video. For more information, you can also read more about the Metonic Cycle online.
As mentioned in this video, when analyzing the number of times key words like “day”, “month”, and “year” occur in the Quran we see that the numbers point us toward the Metonic Cycle.
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When will the new year begin after the end of leap year? will it be on maghrib time of the 13th month?
This would depend on whether you consider the beginning of a new day to be at sunset time or midnight or sunrise.
@@SimplyMuslimif we add the intercalated month every leap year would it not affect our zakah payments every 36 years thus delaying zakat?
also since 1 month in intercalated it would push away all religious dates by 1 month in the next year for ex 1 muharram would actually occur on 30 muharram due to the intercalated month addition?
what is the need for intercalation if at all?
@@tanvirhussain2266i think there is a reason why the number of month are kept 12, and the 13th not named, so the 13th can be ignored . its added days accros that year and 2 years before after all
@@tanvirhussain2266 Sorry for the late reply, for some reason I didn't get a notification for your comment and just noticed this.
Without intercalation, the calendar's dates are no longer reliable. Consider, for example, the fact that the difference between the Gregorian calendar and the mainstream lunar-only calendar followed by today's Muslims used to be 622 years but is now 576 years. i.e. By not keeping track of the missed days, this calendar is now missing 43 years! If this continues, it will eventually be ahead of the Gregorian calendar! In other words, there's no consistency. How can this calendar be used to keep track of events accurately? It can't.
So intercalation is necessary for every calendar. Even the solar-only calendar needs to add a leap day every 4 years, since periods of adjustment are a necessary part of any functional calendar. In fact, the Arabic word for calendar is "تقويم", which literally means "adjustment".
@@tanvirhussain2266 The leap month would not postpone all religious dates by a month in the next year. I do talk about this in my 3rd video (An-Nasi').
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Alhamdulillah, thank you for your kind comment.
nice explanation
thanks!
Bonjour, j'ai une question si vous le permettez :
Si on voulait rétablir ce calendrier solaire/ lunaire aujourd'hui (c'est à dire cette année) , comment savoir si nous sommes dans une année "leap year" de 13 mois ou année standard de 12 mois (par rapport aux Arabes de l'époque ) ? Vu que ce modèle de calendrier est par définition en déphasage avec le calendrier lunaire, et que le mois de ramadan est un mois bien défini, il y a donc deux possibilités :
1) soit les arabes de l'époque du prophète Muhammad suivait effectivement ce concept de leap year, et donc il faudrait savoir quand est-ce que le dernier ramadan "approuvé" par le prophète a eu lieu ( est-ce que c'était durant une année de 13 mois ou bien de 12 ) pour que nous puissions nous réajuster avec certitude à ce modèle. (Ce qui va être difficile vu que, selon ce point de vue, ce système a été altéré et donc il serait perdu. )
2) soit l'année "islamique" a toujours été complètement lunaire, indépendamment de la saison, et de ce fait, en cherchant à ajouter un mois, on serait automatiquement en déphasage par rapport au calendrier lunaire que les musulmans suivrait d'une façon ininterrompue depuis le dernier ramadan "approuvé" par le prophète. (Et pour prouver cela, il faudrait aussi trouver la preuve que la position du mois de ramadan n'a pas été altéré dans le calendrier "islamique" d'aujourd'hui et que l'ordre a effectivement été préservé, ce qui, à mon avis, ça être tout aussi difficile )
Toute réponse ou critique est la bienvenue.
Peace
Bonjour Rayane, en fait il est relativement simple de se remettre à suivre le calendrier original du temps du prophète. Par exemple, certains évènements historiques de cette époque ont été documentés non seulement par les arabes, mais aussi par les romains. Ceci nous donne la possibilité de vérifier les dates du calendrier arabe à l’époque du messager par rapport au calendrier romain.
Prenons l’an 636 apr. J.-C. comme exemple. Il correspond à l’an 15 après l’hégire, et le prophète était encore en vie à cette époque. Les romains et les arabes se sont affrontés à deux occasions : lors de la bataille de Yarmouk et lors du siège de Jérusalem. D’après les records historiques, les arabes indiquent que la bataille de Yarmouk s’est déroulée durant le mois de Rajab. Les romains indiquent qu’elle s’est déroulée durant le mois d’août. Quant au siège de Jérusalem, les arabes indiquent qu’il a eu lieu durant le mois de Shawwal, et les romains indiquent qu’il a eu lieu durant le mois de novembre. On voit bien que les mois arabes et les mois romains correspondent aux mêmes saisons ! (Si on suit un calendrier luni-solaire, le mois de Rajab devrait tomber autour du mois d’août, alors que le mois de Shawwal devrait tomber autour du mois de novembre).
Ce qui est intéressant avec l’année 636 apr. J.-C., c’est qu’il y a eu une 3ème bataille, cette fois entre les arabes et les perses : la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah. Mais, contrairement aux romains, la civilisation des perses a été complètement détruite. Du coup, nous n’avons que les records historiques arabes, qui indiquent que cette bataille a eu lieu durant le mois de Shaban de l’an 15 après l’hégire. C’est-à-dire que cette bataille s’est déroulée un mois après la bataille de Yarmouk. Mais, comme cet évènement ne concernait pas les romains, ils n’en n’ont pas conservé un record dans leur histoire. Donc, pour convertir la date de la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah au calendrier grégorien, les érudits musulmans modernes ont dû faire un calcul en supposant que le calendrier musulman de l’époque était lunaire seulement (et pas lunisolaire). Ainsi, ils ont placé la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah dans le mois de novembre en 636 apr. J.-C. Mais ça c’est le mois durant lequel le siège de Jérusalem a eu lieu ! Alors que, d’après les anciens records des arabes, le siège de Jérusalem et la bataille de al-Qadisiyyah se sont déroulés lors de deux mois complètement différents ! Donc ceci réfute l’hypothèse que le calendrier de l’époque du prophète était lunaire seulement, puisqu’en se basant sur cette hypothèse les érudits se sont retrouvés avec des dates contradictoires.
Concernant les preuves du calendrier lunisolaire, j’en ai mentionné quelques-unes dans mes vidéos, y compris des preuves basées sur des versets Coraniques.
@@SimplyMuslim @Simply Muslim Bonjour, merci d'avoir pris le temps de répondre.
Je comprends votre démarche qui semble logique mais personnellement j'ai une difficulté à accepter les dires des historiens car on sait bien que l'erreur n'est pas impossible dans ce genre de situations (même si je reconnais qu'elle pourrait être authentiques)
L'argumentation que vous avez présenté a pour fondation le fait que le calendrier romain à un moment donné rédigée par un scribe x en particulier était fiable (ce qui en soit est une problématique à part entière ) et que les évènements de l'année 636 furent préservés avec précision.
Je ne nie pas le fait que ça soit possible mais personnellement je me sentirais dans l'incapacité de savoir avec certitude si ces infos sont valides ou pas. ( Une preuve archéologique matérielle et une datation au carbone 14 pourraient être utiles je pense )
Ensuite je pense qu'il serait plus "safe" de prendre un échantillon d'au moins 2 ou 3 années consécutives pour valider la théorie du calendrier luni-solaire. Si on ne se concentre que sur l'année 636 cela pourrait confirmer que l'ordre des mois tels qu'on les connais sont préservés mais sans données additionnelles on pourrait expliquer le fait que les mois grégoriens coïncident avec les mois des arabes par le fait que cette année là, les mois du calendrier lunaire (sans leap year) devaient coïncider avec ceux du calendrier grégorien, ce qui serait possible vu que les mois du calendrier lunaire se déplacent au fil des années.
Enfin j'aimerais dire que certains arguments en faveur du calendrier luni-solaire semblent effectivement convaincants et donc il se peut que je me trompes à ce sujet.
Merci encore pour votre attention, peace
@@Moulay.Ismail wa 3alaykoum essalam.
Je comprends votre réaction face à cette théorie ( que Simply Muslim n'est pas la seule à défendre ) bien que personnellement j'éviterai de faire des procès d'intention ou de tourner son effort en ridicule car j'estime qu'à notre époque actuelle personne ne peux revendiquer avoir la vérité absolue sur ce genre de problématiques.
Il y a effectivement certains points d'interrogation de la théorie luni-solaire qui demandent à être élucidés mais cela ne veut pas dire que le système actuel ne soulève aucun questionnement.
Je n'ai pas de réponse à apporter mais j'aimerais juste préciser que l'argument "si tout le monde a toujours fait comme ça alors c'est forcément vrai et fiable" n'est pas forcément valide ( même d'un point de vue coranique si je peux me permettre, vous connaissez sans doute ce qu'il adviendra de nous si on s'obstine à suivre la majorité des gens )
Ce n'est qu'un avis personnel ( donc il se peut que je me trompes ) mais je pense que l'argument du hadith est contestable ( surtout si on voit l'état actuel de la communautée ), cet argument se base également sur une confiance risquée envers des gens dont l'existence, la fiabilité et les compétences restent à prouver.
Vous n'avez pas eu de difficulté à remettre en cause les intentions de Simply muslim, donc je ne vois pas ce qui m'empêcherait d'avoir les mêmes doutes au sujet de transmetteurs décédés depuis des siècles avec qui je ne peux même pas avoir un face à face pour discuter ou m'assurer de leur sincérité (sincérité qui, même si elle semble convainquante, pourrait très bien être sujette à l'erreur ou à des manipulations externes.)
Je m'excuse si mes propos semblent vous attaquer personnellement, ce n'est pas mon intention. Je cible l'argument et non la personne.
Ps à l'intention de @Simply Muslim : effectivement j'ai vérifié sur la page wikipédia attribuée au prophète Muhammad et d'après cette source il serait décédé avant l'année 636.
Personnellement je suis complètement neutre face à cette contradiction car dans les deux cas je ne peux pas savoir avec certitude si le prophète est effectivement mort avant ou après l'an 636, l'histoire étant une discipline sensible où il est difficile de distinguer le vrai du faux.
Merci pour votre attention, Salam à vous deux.
@@Moulay.Ismail Je me permets juste de rajouter qu'effectivement, Ismail a bien fait de soulever le fait que quand c'est par exemple ربيع الاول dans l'hémisphère nord (selon le calendrier luni-solaire) ça ne sera pas forcément le printemps dans tout l'hémisphère sud. Ce contre argument me semble logique.
Faudrait-il alors avoir un calendrier luni-solaire propre à chaque hémisphère pour faire coïncider les mois et les saisons ? Qu'en pensez vous ?
@@rayaneamrouche3705 Les noms des mois du calendrier arabe sont basés sur les saisons spécifiques à une région en particulier : la péninsule arabique. Or, le reste du monde musulman n’est pas concerné par le mois de « récolte des raisins » (Rajab) ou le mois de la « saison de reproduction des dromadaires » (Shawal).
Les seuls mois qui nous importent sont ceux qui impliquent des traditions religieuses : Ramadan et les 4 mois sacrés.
Pour les mois sacrés, puisqu’ils sont reliés au pèlerinage, ce sont les musulmans qui choisissent de l’entreprendre qui devront se déplacer vers la péninsule arabique.
Pour le mois de Ramadan, puisqu’il est relié au jeune (qui dure de l’aube à la nuit), ce qui nous intéresse c’est la durée des journées. Or, en respectant l’emplacement des mois par rapport à leurs saisons respectives (telles qu’indiquées par leurs noms), on voit que le mois de Ramadan tombe dans une période où les journées ont des durées similaires à travers la Terre entière (peu importe si on parle de l’hémisphère nord ou sud).
Concernant l’an 636, j’avais oublié qu’il s’agissait plutôt d’évènements qui se sont passés quelques années après le décès du prophète. Mais cela ne change en rien l’argument en question, puisque le but était de montrer que le calendrier purement lunaire n’était pas utilisé à l’époque du prophète (que ce soit quand il était encore en vie ou juste quelques années après sa mort).
One last Puzzle. Al Quran tells us in 2:185 that “The month of Ramadhān [is that] in which was revealed the Qur'ān, a guid-ance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion”. My point is that it was revealed over a period time; not in a month. Isn’t it logical for the muslim to follow the lunar calendar only not Luni solar calendar. Salam.
Whether you follow a lunar calendar or a lunisolar calendar, the month of Ramadan would still only come once a year. (In both calendars, Ramadan is just 1 of 12 months. The only difference between the two calendars is whether the 12 months switch seasons or whether they are related to specific seasons. But in both cases the month of Ramadan only comes once a year).
So if you understand verse 2:185 as saying that the entire Quran was sent down in the month of Ramadan, it is still more logical to follow a lunisolar calendar. Not only is this the original calendar that Muhammad was following, but the Quran itself also encourages us to follow it (in verses 6:96, 10:5, and 18:25). The purely lunar calendar has no basis in the Quran. Not to mention that it makes no sense from a scientific/mathematical perspective. The only thing that is supporting the purely lunar calendar is a contradictory “hadith” accusing Muhammad of following a wrong calendar for his entire life.
Moreover, verse 2:185 isn’t necessarily referring to the entire Quran. It could be referring to just a part of the Quran. Consider verses 7:204, 16:98, 17:45, and 84:21. All use the word “Quran” without necessarily referring to the entire Book, just part of it.
Also, verse 97:1 states that it was sent down on the night of Al-Qadr. Does this mean that the Quran only got sent down one night per year over the course of 23 years? Possibly. But, again, not necessarily.
Salam.
Simply Muslim Alhamdulillah. Thank you sister. Yes, i want to believe that The Quran was revealed in one month not over the period of 23 years. Only then, it corespondents with other verses supporting lunisolar calendar. Allah bless you. Regards and Salam.
Im a hijri calender follower from south india
I just came across your video. It is very useful video, the one I have been looking for. So if we follow luni-solar calendar when is Ramadan?. Thank you and god bless you.
Thank you Harimurti. Yes, I do talk about that in my 1st video (Forgotten Meanings of the Islamic Months). May God bless you.
Salam Harimurti. I realize now that my reply may not have been very clear. Basically, the month of Ramadan doesn't have a proper monthly equivalent in the Gregorian calendar. It falls sometime between September and October, but the exact day will change every year.
However, because the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it works exactly the same way as any other lunisolar calendar. So you can use any lunisolar calendar to figure out when Ramadan would fall each year. I personally found more resources for the Chinese Calendar, so that's what I'm currently using as a reference. Ramadan is equivalent to the 9th month of the Chinese Calendar.
Hope this helps. Peace.
@@SimplyMuslim Thank you for your clarification to my question. I need practical way to determine start of Ramadan. There are websites, which give lunisolar calendar, such as sunmooncalendar.com. New moon on September this year will be on 29 or 30. Is it the start of Ramadan this year ? But the equinox will be on September 21st. Some suggest equinox is the start of Ramadan.
@@harimurtiwidyasena5582 That's true. The reason the month won't always start on the day of the equinox is because months depend on the lunar cycle while the equinox depends on the seasonal cycle. These 2 cycles aren't always in synch. (In fact, they are rarely perfectly aligned).
And because of that, the month of Ramadan will rarely fall _exactly_ on the day of the equinox. Most of the time, it will fall _around_ that period.
In Autumn, it is during the period around late September and October, that day-length would be similar across all the countries in the world. (This link: www.timeanddate.com/sun/ is to a website that allows you to see the sunrise/sunset and daylength of different cities around the world).
In general, it is by comparing the northernmost city (Norilsk, Russia) to the city closest to the equator (Quito, Ecuador) that you would notice the biggest difference in daylength. Right now (in May 2019) the difference is about 12h, with daylength lasting *24h* in Norislk! (So, technically, if there are Muslims there, they can never stop fasting...). But in late September and October, the biggest difference between these two cities is only about 3h.
And, you're right. According to the lunisolar calendar, Ramadan starts on September 29th this year.
Peace.
Allah Wisdom is amazing
How to determine leap month ?
Generally we know that within any given period of 19 years, we need to have 7 leap years (each containing an added 13th month). Technically, we just need to add these 7 leap months at some point. It doesn't really matter when exactly we add them, as long as we do it within the 19-year cycle.
But in order to ensure that the months don't drift too much from their respective seasons, most lunisolar calendars insert the leap months every 2-3 years. Where exactly they insert this leap month within the year depends on the agreed-upon convention. For instance, the Jewish Calendar always adds the leap month after Adar, while the Chinese Calendar adds it whenever they count 13 new moons between the 11th month of a year and the 11th month of the next year.
If you want more details on the calculations involved to determine the leap month, then you might find this article interesting: calendars.wikia.org/wiki/Lunisolar_calendar
This both calander and dates were practise in Ancient Indian civilization.
Thanks for sharing this information. It's interesting because most civilizations seem to have followed a lunisolar calendar at some point or another.
The word month or sahar was mentioned 17 times in Qur'an...and the word Day or yaom was mentioned 377 times in Qur'an...
@@shamalannn9085 no...i look into...and it's not 12 and 365
@@shamalannn9085 From Qur'an app... AL QUR'AN
@@shamalannn9085 i am confused...😭😭😭😭...but our hijri calendar is not Luni Solar... it's Lunar calendar...😭😭😭...
@@shamalannn9085 i know prophet Muhammad used a luni solar calendar...but then it was Changed...and currently this hijri calender in lunar calendar...we need to change this calendar
@@shamalannn9085 😭😭😭...why the scholars did that ... I am still confused about the calendar...
This is confusing, If you follow the solar years for the months the Ramadan would be in Septmeber, then you just simply fast when you see the new moon in September. You are then following the verse 6:96. Its that simple.
This video isn't about Ramadan. It was meant to achieve 2 things:
1. Prove that the calendar mentioned in the Quran is the lunisolar one.
2. Briefly explain how the lunisolar calendar works for those who are interested in the mechanism behind it.
For the timing of Ramadan, I made a separate video.
@@SimplyMuslim Ok thanks for that, I hope I didnt sound to rude.
@@aussieandrew No worries, you were just stating your opinion.
Are there any classical scholarly opinions that align with your opinion?
Salam. Which is better? The opinion of a scholar, or the Message written by Muhammad (the Messenger of God)?
I was careful not to present any opinions (i.e. views not necessarily based on facts). Every point I made is backed up by proofs from the Quran, science, mathematics, and/or archaeology. Whether some scholar's opinion matches this or not is irrelevant. I have presented my proofs. If a scholar disagrees, he/she must _prove_ me wrong. Peace.
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@@SimplyMuslim Assalamualaykum sister. Always remember to say "salallahu alayhi wasalam" after his name. Salallahu alayhi wasalam.
@@mohsingillani8253 Salallahu 3aleyhi wa Aali wa Salam. During Salat it is after tashahud also obligatory to ask All for salawat on the prophet Mohamed wa Aali Mohamed like He gave it to Ibrahim wa Aali Ibrahim. The prophet himself said that it is not enough to say salawat upon the prophet and stop there, we have to say wa Aali wa Salam after it.
Interesting, but how do you know when to insert the leap month every three year ? You need a divine authority for that...
How do you know when to insert the leap day every four years?
@@SimplyMuslim You mean in the Gregorian calendar ? It's not a sacred calendar. But in the hijri calendar, there is no leap day nor leap year, because Allah wants us to see the time as sacred and when man intervene it kind of "breaks" this sacrality... Abdal Hakim Murad explains this better in this video ruclips.net/video/WbHLmBwygbE/видео.html
Calendars are just tools we use for calculation. There's nothing mystical about it. Surat al-kahf mentions time calculations and the concept of adding leap months.
@@SimplyMuslim How can you say that the islamic calendar is just a "tool" when God says that the Holy Book was revealed in the month of Ramadan and that it is the reason why we must fast in that specific month ?
That's like saying that the pen we use to write the Quran (or the machine we use to print it) is sacred because the Quran is a sacred book. The pen/machine are just tools They're not sacred in and of themselves.
Similarly, calendars are tools we use to calculate time. And just because these tools help us identify the occurrence of holy months like Ramadan or the four Forbidden Months, does not mean that the tools themselves are sacred.
Geez I'm even more confused than before, so, what year is it now in the Islamic Calendar?.
1398 (if you take Hegira as Year 1)
What are you confused about?
@@SimplyMuslim
So Islamic Calendar starts counting from year 622 AD because.....?
@@oliverf.68 Because the Hegira (which is taken to be Year 1) occured in 622 AD.
Note, however, that taking the event of Hegira as the starting point of the calendar is simply a convention. We could have taken any other point as Year 1 and it wouldn't have made a difference in the calendar (as long as we remain consistent).
Let me explain: She believes the Islamic calendar is lunisolar just like the Hebrew and Chinese calendars. Therefore according to her, we were in 1398 H (now 1401 H).
However, acc to the lunar Islamic calendar, we are now in 1445 H.