Squat everyday Day 1764: 10 years of doing hip thrusts or this…

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @icecold19833
    @icecold19833 Месяц назад +25

    Hip thrusts dont transfer much to squatting but can help hip hinge movements quite a bit. They helped me break a 600 lb deadlift many years ago. If you have a well designed hip thrust machine that lets you really sink deep and stretch the glutes you will get more out of them than the barbell version.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +10

      Yeh there you go. So hip thrusts are a good accessory for deadlifts. Maybe not squats.

    • @BUFFALO_cougar_slayer
      @BUFFALO_cougar_slayer Месяц назад +1

      Why not do good mornings and do a movement that a life’s hip hinge that has direct carryover to the squat AND deadlift? Just a thought. Plus, honestly, a good morning actually replicates the act of “humping” even better than a hip thrust does lol

    • @VjeranCrnjak
      @VjeranCrnjak Месяц назад

      @@BUFFALO_cougar_slayer hip thrust is at the heaviest when you fully contract the glutes, good morning is not. similarly, any movement that loads the back fatigues more, so you'd have to start managing that too. hip thrusts are a cheap option.

    • @icecold19833
      @icecold19833 Месяц назад

      @@BUFFALO_cougar_slayer because when you get strong enough, GMs will fry out your low back and recovery before glutes have hit close to max recoverable volume

    • @nh1776
      @nh1776 Месяц назад +1

      @@BUFFALO_cougar_slayerthere’s a time and place for everything. Sometimes you can’t handle any more loading of the spine (good mornings)

  • @howjackedcaniget
    @howjackedcaniget Месяц назад +21

    To be fair, doing hip thrusts has done wonders for your family composition.

  • @KaedesOdyssey
    @KaedesOdyssey Месяц назад +9

    I've spent many years with Bulgarian spit squats as my go-to leg exercise. Whilst it's not transferred to my back squat as much as I'd like it to have, I've found that they've given me very functional leg strength and mobility. They also light up the quads and glutes something fierce! My legs got considerably thicker from them. Glute thrusts never seemed to give me much of a stretch at the bottom of the position, and the power it does develop didn't really cross over into many other lifts as the supported position you set up in, isn't one you find yourself in very often.
    Appreciate your insight brother, always love the approach and the earnestness you display every day, reminds me to be honest with myself and to get after it!

  • @whitenozze
    @whitenozze Месяц назад +1

    I do hipthrust as my warm up, 1 set of 6 reps si gle leg with iso holds, 1 set of 20 double leg. Main focus is the movement pattern of Hip extension. There's no reason to me to do hipthrusts for Hypertrophy, but for positional work it does help show my body posterior tilt with a brace (which was why it was originally created, to Hip escape from full guard in BJJ)

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +2

      Oh yeah, that didn’t occur to me. In combat sports it makes a lot of sense for positional work doesn’t it.

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily Месяц назад +7

    Ayyy it's Yoked Disney's Merida making an appearance again.
    Who is that woman? Is she a Strongwoman/Powerlifter? She can give you a run for your money on front double biceps. 💪

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +3

      For sure. Lady is jacked.
      I’m not sure. I think she’s a powerlifter.

    • @Wisey_83
      @Wisey_83 Месяц назад +1

      @@IvanDjuric300 time for the channel to meet the lady! A good story there for sure.

  • @J3susChrist
    @J3susChrist Месяц назад

    great insights while rocking that carmelo anthony jersey, much love from a knicks fan ♥

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      I miss Melo. I loved watching him play.

  • @Greew11
    @Greew11 Месяц назад +1

    I personally like how hip thrust is basically a reverse sitting exercise. Just feels good on glutes and low back

  • @Bhisma93
    @Bhisma93 Месяц назад +4

    Also Cossack squats weighted for the hip abductora

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +1

      Yeh I like them too. I wanna try them soon too.

    • @evankuhn7435
      @evankuhn7435 Месяц назад +1

      @@IvanDjuric300try them with a zercher hold - that’s the optimal way imo load them

  • @Amivgr1
    @Amivgr1 11 дней назад

    Hip Thrusts made my front squat go up thats for sure. Glutes are a great part of that movement especially down in the hole

  • @bwatt1383
    @bwatt1383 Месяц назад +1

    Best glute pump ive ever had was from deficit deads with a micro band tied to the rack and around the front of my hips.
    Might cause too much systemic fatigue for some but since i was using less than 100kg for sets of 20 it was perfect

  • @Ethos1231
    @Ethos1231 Месяц назад

    Thus is one of the best vids you’ve done Ivan. I agree totally with you. I think hip thrusts are problematic for other reasons as well. THEN, Big Z does them on squats day, which is confusing. Could be an outlier though.
    Great work again.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      Thanks man.
      Yeah I’ve seen big Z hip thrust a tonne of weight. When I see a guy like that using that exercise, I feel like there is some benefit to it for sure.

  • @kaneymon
    @kaneymon Месяц назад

    respect to the lady just killing the calisthenics in the background...

  • @petermozuraitis5219
    @petermozuraitis5219 Месяц назад +8

    4:27 bad gym etiquette incoming
    Don’t step in front or on someone’s platform, just go around

    • @silatguy
      @silatguy Месяц назад +2

      Yeah I cringed a bit. Couldn't even wait to finish the set and walking near a squat is among the worst on the list of gym offences. It's like walking in front of a Sensei while he is teaching the class. In this case the Sensei is Ivan and we are the class lol

    • @dootguy5011
      @dootguy5011 Месяц назад

      Don’t be so hard on him. He only sold half a kilo of coke that day and didn’t have a good day 😂😂😂

    • @zarkozimonjic5098
      @zarkozimonjic5098 Месяц назад

      Who cares? Lol

  • @Tan12
    @Tan12 Месяц назад

    I would think high-intensity hip thrusts probably carry over well to things like jumping and sprinting where glute power in the neutral-to-shortened range is important. Hence why you do see jumpers and sprinters train them. With the cyclist example split squats would of course have way more carryover for the added quad training, the lateral stability benefits, and the fact that cycling positions force you to engage your glutes in the stretched position.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      Yeah, that’s true. Jumping and sprinting is all about short positions not long positions. So that makes sense.

  • @danielsenl
    @danielsenl Месяц назад

    Glutes have the best internal leverage for hip extension in the short position. Adductors have the best internal leverage for hip extension with a bent hip. It's not so much about training the glutes in the long position as it is about hip extension in the bent hip position for squats. Which is mostly adductors.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      Yeh I’ve heard that before. It’s hard to conceptualise. But it seems to be the way to go.
      Which explains why my adductors always get sore with heavy squatting. Especially atg.

  • @karelenhenkie666
    @karelenhenkie666 Месяц назад +1

    I personally like training my glutes and abs for squats, not because they add strength to it but because they allow me to actually use my quads for squats. They keep everything tight and aligned so the muscles that need to do the actual moving of the weight can produce the proper force instead of leaking strength all over the place

    • @tochroach
      @tochroach Месяц назад

      What do you do for the glutes then

  • @LukeSeed
    @LukeSeed Месяц назад +1

    I'm sure this has been said but I'm lazy and don't want to go through the comments.
    Glutes are hip extensors, quads are mostly knee extensors. Both play their part in different segments of the squats. If you have strong glutes but no quads you aren't going to squat well, and vice versa.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      But what is the split. The ratio of work, is it 50:50. Or if you just focus on quads instead of glutes, would you be better off.

    • @LukeSeed
      @LukeSeed Месяц назад

      @IvanDjuric300 I think that's too complicated for a YT comment. Intricacies of stance, posture, and depth. The more on your toes and the higher up, the more quads. The more on your heels and the deeper you get, the more glutes. I'd venture to guess 60:40 anterior/posterior as a starting point but that's guessing

  • @Juliius_x
    @Juliius_x Месяц назад

    If you are interested in taking the stretch even further in the split squat, try elevating the front foot. The stretch will be insane from that

  • @pinksupremacy6076
    @pinksupremacy6076 Месяц назад +2

    Dude, 200 is going up like 180 used to. Incredible!
    Also, glutes and hammies - and I'm sure you know this - are more specific to low-bar squatting. Won't work as well for you, Ivan, although they're still important.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +3

      Yeh all this quad work is making the bar feel light man. It feels like I have something to push with now.

  • @v.kokakola2538
    @v.kokakola2538 Месяц назад +1

    Squats involves quads, hip thrust dont. Its more like a glute-dominant hip extension. Havent done hip thrust myself but, my gut instinct tells me there's gotta be unique benefits to hip thrust that you can't get from other movements, even if hypertrophy benefits may be equal.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +1

      Like someone else said here, maybe the benefits lie with deadlifts. The carry over there seems good. But for squatting it seems like not the way to go. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what it seems.

    • @v.kokakola2538
      @v.kokakola2538 Месяц назад

      ​@@IvanDjuric300 fair point, it'll probably help with hip drive in the deadlift, although I think that's not an issue for most people.

  • @teedee6176
    @teedee6176 Месяц назад +1

    A big squat *FIRST* needs to be *un-racked.* A strong back (upper and lower) is needed to un-rack a heavily loaded bar. Those girls with the massive hip-thrusts do not have the strength back to un-rack the bar.
    The question is, at what stage in the squat movement do the glutes come into play?
    Similar situation with guys that leg press 800kg in the gym but struggle to squat 3 plates, which is the maximum they can un-rack.

  • @LemonLimeSqueeze
    @LemonLimeSqueeze Месяц назад

    Louie Simmons said all his wide low bar squat students had bigger hamstrings on average
    And he recommended hamstring, low back and glute work the most (reverse hypers, good mornings, etc)
    But since your squat style is closer to an olympic weightlifter, imo you would get more milage out of studying how they train quads in mass building periods
    iirc, olympic weightlifters have times of high volume variation training to build mass and then periods of leaning up and peaking for competitions
    If you look over some olympic weightlifting programs for volume/mass you might get some ideas for your current block. Just a thought :)
    Hopefully with time you will find the right balance of exercises and variety, but for now its great that the split squats, belt squats and hack squats are working!

  • @michaelangelo1417
    @michaelangelo1417 Месяц назад +11

    I hate hip thrusts, takes more time to set up than to do the actual exercise.

    • @nightfighter7452
      @nightfighter7452 Месяц назад +1

      I'll never do them unless there's an actual machine for it in the gym. Stuff legged deadlifts are a great substitute though. Have to be really careful with the weight on those

    • @michaelangelo1417
      @michaelangelo1417 Месяц назад

      @@nightfighter7452 yes! I love the stiff leg deadlift, I get that awesome stretch feeling in the bottom, easy to set up, you don’t even get the bloody shins. 10/10z

    • @questionableethnicity2268
      @questionableethnicity2268 Месяц назад

      Single leg hip thrusts with a heavy dumbbell are much quicker to set up than the standard barbell version.

    • @michaelangelo1417
      @michaelangelo1417 Месяц назад

      @@questionableethnicity2268 yes but it takes twice the time to perform the set; idk if it’s worth it. For me it isn’t.

    • @Tan12
      @Tan12 Месяц назад

      I just do them one-legged, can use way less weight (just a heavy dumbbell even), and you get the lateral stability training benefits of a 1-legged movement.

  • @rodolfocalderon8240
    @rodolfocalderon8240 Месяц назад

    I'm impressed by the Asian girl in orange/blue doing weighted pull ups.

  • @ambatukoom
    @ambatukoom Месяц назад +1

    I think the adductors are more important than glutes for deep squats.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah man, adductors are important in squats. It’s one of the unsung heroes of our body.

  • @augustrose4589
    @augustrose4589 Месяц назад +1

    Hey Ivan, somewhere in day 400s you were doing walking lunges and hyping them up a bunch, so I tried them out and loved them. I always tell people weighted walking lunges destroy the glutes like no other exercise. How do you think walking lunges compare to these weighted split squats? Think one is better than the other? Roughly the same? I have never tried barbell split squats, think I should?

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +2

      Hey man. Yeah they are very similar no doubt. The only differences with split squats is the stability and balance aspect is easier. So I think because of that you can load them more. And I think with with load comes extra stimulus. That’s what I think.
      Also I think with walking lunges there is more emphasis on glutes because you finish the walking cycle each time. With split squats you stop short of full hip extension.

  • @keldsports8337
    @keldsports8337 Месяц назад

    All comes down to your weaknesses. If your glutes aren’t weak compared to other muscles or movements, then hip thrusts are probably junk volume. After the main movement, it’s all about addressing individual weaknesses.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      But what if they are weak. Hip thrust or split squats or something else: where do you go.
      That’s the question too.
      Or just do them all. Who cares.

  • @merrieleiderman
    @merrieleiderman Месяц назад

    Front foot elevated, even better.

  • @ExecutionSommaire
    @ExecutionSommaire Месяц назад

    The issue I see with hip thrust is the shallowness of the movement, squatting (even to parallel only) requires strength in much more acute angles.

  • @nikolidus
    @nikolidus Месяц назад

    Glutes are mainly there for that bottom position to get you out of the whole when your glutes are feeling good the squat moves like butter but you need to train the glutes in the axial plane coming from someone who has done hip thrusts since 2010 I can tell you it helps with activating glutes and you can increase your squat but I don’t think it’s to a point that Bulgarians can do I always feel way more activated after Bulgarians

  • @christopherseat9871
    @christopherseat9871 Месяц назад

    If it makes you POPPY. Then go for it.

  • @dasdos002
    @dasdos002 Месяц назад +1

    To me BSS are for abductors (glute med/min) while hip thrusts are for glute max. Doing both in a session is probably best for overall development

    • @dasdos002
      @dasdos002 Месяц назад

      A guy eating a bowl full of pills and shooting needles in his eyeballs isn’t someone we should use as an example for this particular movement. I get the women example, which is fair enough. But a lot of women don’t have the core or lower/upper back strength to stay up right. Plus, their abductors could be weak relative to the glute max. There are too many variables to know exactly what is going on with that group

  • @ozyozk9466
    @ozyozk9466 Месяц назад

    I’ve started squatting with a very upright torso. Been building up my squat for two months and I can really feel my glutes when I go past parallel on the way up. Before I would lean forward more and feel it more in my mid and low back. I guess HTs might help if you want to be more upright. I would rather do rdls though.

  • @jonnylifts
    @jonnylifts Месяц назад

    Top set squat was smooth

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily Месяц назад +2

    Noti gang gang 🔔

    • @KwisBwown
      @KwisBwown Месяц назад +1

      🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🌕🐺🐺🐺Noti Mafioso🐺🐺🐺

    • @Egoliftdaily
      @Egoliftdaily Месяц назад +1

      @@KwisBwown 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺Noti Mafia ❗❗❗

  • @HackerSkid5G
    @HackerSkid5G Месяц назад

    1:57, finally its not just me that has issues with pants thats long when squatting 😂

  • @loungeroomlifting2223
    @loungeroomlifting2223 Месяц назад

    In terms of isolated, targeted training. It's obvious hip thrusts are good for the glutes.. just like quad extension is better for quads than squats are 🤷‍♂️ the fatigue to stimulus ratio is better for specific growth.
    However, if you want to squat, you have to squat. If a girl wants big glutes, they should 100% do hip thrusts. Plenty of female powerlifters, weightlifters, and crossfitters who squat lots have flat asses, even enhanced ones. But they often have very good quads.

  • @Simon-og5vy
    @Simon-og5vy Месяц назад

    Hip trust don’t make me sore but lunges I can hardly sit down the next few days. Don’t do hip thrusts anymore

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +1

      Exactly my experience too. Right now I am sore and I could barely move around. All thanks to lunges or split squats.

  • @zachboskovich6616
    @zachboskovich6616 Месяц назад

    Rotund voluptuous butts come from heavy deep squats. Dr Density said something along these lines recently.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      Yeh. And with deep squats comes much more too.

  • @tmacrockets23
    @tmacrockets23 Месяц назад

    love a good thrust

  • @torynichols2413
    @torynichols2413 Месяц назад

    At about 1:30 there is a girl in background killing some weighted chin ups.

  • @CASnumber
    @CASnumber Месяц назад

    The other day I saw a Jeff nipard reel talking about lengthened partials. It is consistent with what you're saying.
    I also don't think hip thrusts are the best exercise for glutes

    • @darrenstirrup5516
      @darrenstirrup5516 Месяц назад

      Check the latest Nipard video on this subject...you may be surprised. It seems Nipard was!

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Месяц назад

      He's to focused on studies when they have massive flaws.

  • @emcarpenter5206
    @emcarpenter5206 Месяц назад

    I think hip thrusts are only useful for vanity. You can still get big glutes by accident just from squatting in addition to all the useful strength they give. What other people want to do is their business but when I see someone doing that exercise I know that their interests do no lie in being strong.

  • @_AE_69
    @_AE_69 Месяц назад

    algorithm ivan

  • @KwisBwown
    @KwisBwown Месяц назад

    YOOOOO THAT WAS A BRETT CONTRERAS DISS TRACK 🥷🏿🔫🔫🔫🔫

    • @KwisBwown
      @KwisBwown Месяц назад

      took you 10 minutes to dismiss that regular guy's 10 years of study 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪

    • @KwisBwown
      @KwisBwown Месяц назад

      nah he's a legend....but totally agree. Unsure the purpose of hip thrust focus stability perhaps? 200kg s worth? Naaaaaah fam 😂

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +2

      Hahahah
      Yeh I like him too. And he doesn’t care about strength anyway. But it’s interesting he doesn’t squat a lot with all that glute strength.

  • @aemilos888
    @aemilos888 Месяц назад +1

    If all you want is big glutes, you don't need to accumulate fatigue by squatting. Those girls couldn’t have developed their physiques with squats alone, the amount of spine compression is too much

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      Yeah that’s for sure. The amount of glute work you can accumulate in hip thrust is way higher than with squats. Simply because squats target so much more. Fatiguing the system much quicker.

  • @LukeSeed
    @LukeSeed Месяц назад

    hahahahah, I see a lot of Joey Swoll vids condemning influencers being pissy about other gym goers walking in front of their camera BUT I've NEVER seen a dude just walk right through an exercise setup. 4:32 Bro, walk around.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +1

      Hahahah I dont think he was aware of what I was doing. At least he didn’t do it with weight on my back or as I’m squatting.

  • @heathnguyen
    @heathnguyen Месяц назад

    Mr Ivan sincerely plz do not give the people temptations to THIRST da hips!! 🐸

  • @prodnus
    @prodnus Месяц назад

    Comment everyday Day 65. Hips thrusts are a good ego lift 😂

  • @francis_L
    @francis_L Месяц назад

    Your going to need a new melo jersey😂

  • @markovasil1608
    @markovasil1608 Месяц назад

    Disagree with your stretch theory. I’ve never done bicep curls in my last 4 years training yet the other day curled 32.5kg single arm when my best was 27.5kg. Strength in my bicep developed from my heavy deadlifting and Rows. I’d never gained that much in all my 20’s with bodybuilding type training

    • @alexraymond-en4dd
      @alexraymond-en4dd Месяц назад

      Rows and deadlifts don't activate more biceps than Bicep curls. Most people need curls to get good Biceps.

  • @kobemop
    @kobemop Месяц назад

    The quads are bigger muscles than the glutes.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад

      Yeh makes sense!

    • @u04pww2
      @u04pww2 Месяц назад +1

      No the glutes are the biggest muscle in your body.

    • @kobemop
      @kobemop 23 дня назад

      @@u04pww2 Look into Menno Henselman's chart for each muscle.

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily Месяц назад +6

    That hip thrust is so funny, bro... Years ago, people will stop and look at you like you took a sh1t in the street - it was that novel and weird to watch people do hip thrusts.
    At some point in the 2020s, suddenly every girl and their grandma started doing hip thrusts. It's so commonplace now. Funny how that shizzit works.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +9

      Yeah, but still, you can’t make eye contact with anyone while you’re doing this exercise hahaha

    • @Egoliftdaily
      @Egoliftdaily Месяц назад +2

      @@IvanDjuric300 💯 😂 🤣 😂

    • @KwisBwown
      @KwisBwown Месяц назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SwishLad
      @SwishLad Месяц назад

      @@IvanDjuric300 unless its the homies...

  • @BubbyX669
    @BubbyX669 Месяц назад +2

    As a dude, hip thrusts are a no-go, I'd rather just focus on squats, split squats and goodmornings for those areas, hip thrusts are overkill, and a woman's thing, a "vanity" lift that isnt necessary for guys. In my opinion, hip hinges and alot of core work is better time invested.

    • @IvanDjuric300
      @IvanDjuric300  Месяц назад +1

      The absence of hamstring and lower back during hip thrusts make it a poor carry over I think. But I agree, last thing I want is an even bigger set of glutes as a guy.

  • @jrnyc8868
    @jrnyc8868 Месяц назад

    You need to work on increasing your gut

  • @jakeh2528
    @jakeh2528 Месяц назад +2

    At 4:30 watching that guy walk across your platform kinda pissed me off. Did that bother you?

    • @cherries4life387
      @cherries4life387 Месяц назад +1

      The plates in my gym are at the back of the squat racks on a rack. While I'm squatting, quite often there's some chumps who walk in front of me to take a plate away and walk off, like a foot or 2 in front... I'm like wait for my fucking set to end!

    • @jakeh2528
      @jakeh2528 Месяц назад

      @@cherries4life387it's hard to believe that people can do that kind of thing and not know that it's disrespectful

    • @yeahbuddy01
      @yeahbuddy01 Месяц назад +3

      he just walked by, relax, don't make something out of nothing

  • @Ryan-wx1bi
    @Ryan-wx1bi Месяц назад +1

    This "consensus" on the stretch being the most important for hypertrophy... Is just not something i can fully agree with. It's based off what? A couple studies? These arent srudies from data compiled over years. Its studying one exercise for a few weeks and looking at muscle activation and growth. What about their diets, sleep, juice use?
    Studies are more or less pointless done this way. Ill base everything off history and success of the lifters before me. Some of the biggest guys were quarter repping with no stretch. Some of the biggest guys were also doing exercises with a big stretch. I don't think its the big factor

    • @tylerjpitt3388
      @tylerjpitt3388 Месяц назад +1

      A lot more than a couple and all coming to the same conclusion. You're right though I'll just listen to you though,because you're the expert 👍

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Месяц назад

      @@tylerjpitt3388 this is why I don't follow you "science" based cult types. Once someone questions your stuff you go to insults like a petulant child.
      It's hard for some people like me to take it seriously when there are so many variables and the studies never seem to account for them

    • @tylerjpitt3388
      @tylerjpitt3388 Месяц назад

      @@Ryan-wx1bi If you want to leave gains on the table go ahead and ignore the science.

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Месяц назад

      @@tylerjpitt3388 my gains started back up after a long plateau once I ignored the "science". These studies aren't hard science lol.