This video was made in celebration of Persona 3 Reload dropping this week, and I’m super excited for the game! I thought this would be a fun idea to go over everything we know about the protagonist so far through a couple of the adaptations, and we can compare it to reload if they decide to make some big changes! I hope you enjoy!
I love how Makoto’s dialogue choices slowly become more emotional and empathetic as the year goes by. He starts as very apathetic but he gets more expressive in the dialogue. Meeting SEES and all his friends, he finally got to live again after being on autopilot annd forced to live with Death itself after his family died. By the end of the journey he’s absolutely unshakable and saves humanity both its highs and lows.
I totally agree! His overall demeanor changes, and despite being a silent protagonist in the games, the growth is clear through the dialogue options like you said. It's really well thought out.
One thing I’m a slightly disappointed in Reload is that his dialogue options are actually very upbeat and I don’t think they fit his character very well. Some options make sense but others seem very OOC
This is also what I liked from the original game. It totally changed my perspectives around psychology. Most of Makoto's dialogue choices is predictively wouldn't have any effect on the outcome of the conversation. But the choices represents his wild inner monologue. I began to realize and quickly relate with him because as a person, we all have those wild intrusive thoughts at the back of our mind, but we ended up not voicing it due to some circumstances. It's a completely different usage of game's dialogue choices. Rather than give you actual options, it lets you immerse yourself as "Makoto", in the sense that you don't actually have a choice, but you can choose your perspectives upon the world.
I feel like the ending has an optimistic vibe to it though. Even though he found his answer and chose to give up his own life as a result, I don't think he regretted the choice he made
My favorite thing about makoto, he encouraged everyone to live to their full potential. He had such an influence on people that they ended up doing just that. Like a true Messiah he changed everything for the better, even when people don’t see it. Not only being the strongest protagonist as well for unlocking the power of the universe, but with undying will and determination he made the impossible possible. Stood up to all mankind and made the ultimate sacrifice for everyone to have a chance to live happily.
Very well said. He pushed and encouraged everyone to live fulfilling lives to an extent they wouldn’t have ever imagined, and sacrificed himself to do so in the end. It’s beautiful to see.
Even in more powerful and awesome once you think that Makoto/Minato’s a powerful Persona User than Tatsuya. Who fought gods who had control over the collective unconscious.
if you think about it Ryoji is literally is Makoto's Shadow as the characteristic of shadow is the repressed emotion of the person and in case of Makoto his repressed side is his energetic and fun loving person in the past when his parent is still alive and the fact that Ryoji face is identical to Makoto [added edit] beside that remember that Metis is Aigis shadow and how different it was from Aigis and not having the golden(yellow) eyes that typical shadow(selves) when they are manifest
Considering Ryoji tries to hit on every girl he comes across since he materialized, it checks out. Either that or during his time as Pharos, Makoto was a horrible influence when it comes to romance.
Pharos appeared as a young boy because that was the age Makoto was traumatized by the events on the Moonlight Bridge where his parents died and Aigis sealed Death inside of him. So you could say Pharos's growth and bond reflects how Makoto is changing over the course of the story.
This game and Makoto as a whole honestly managed to save my life not once but twice. As a kid I played persona 3 fes on ps3 during a very hard time when I lost my grandfather, I had been assaulted, and my depression was at an all time high, I couldn’t figure out what to live for, I was constantly sleeping, I was barely eating, this game gave me hope that I could find friends like the characters in the game to give me a reason to live. I did I made friends I pulled myself back from the brink and I lived for my friends and loved ones. Then 10 years later after I had my heart broken in a failed engagement, lost contact with my friends, lost my job, and was staring the abyss down again, the game got remade and showed me that same hope all over again.
That's honestly amazing thank you for sharing this comment. I'm sorry you've been in these bad spots, but just remember things will definitely get better. I'm wishing the best for you going forward!
I know what you mean, it was similar for me too. Persona 3 saved my life a couple times, too. Different reasons but man, this game just makes you try your best, or at least "try again" in life. And that's why it will always have a special place in my heart
A comment I heard about Orpheus’ design (specifically the robotic body) is because in one of the legends, he was actually killed by a group of Maenads who tore his body apart leaving only his head. If we look at Persona Orpheus we can see its all mechanical save for the more human looking head.
Regardless of which way his death is interpreted or portrayed, at least with my current knowledge, he gets torn apart regardless. In some by the Maenads, and some in other ways. I really like that the Persona 3 design is robotic for that reason I really honestly should have mentioned that in the video. His chest even has a speaker, which is where his voice comes from in the awakening speech. Also yeah beating Nyx was genuinely impossible, and without Makoto's insane resolve through the bonds of S.E.E.S and the other social links, their stories would've ended then and there. It's beautiful
@@YandereGogetaYou know what else I just remembered? He stayed alive for so long before he finally passed away. Through pure will and spirit he, now a literal walking deadman, stayed alive and an active member of society all the way until his final meeting with SEES at the rooftop. That and something i noticed about the Answer: He’s not the seal of nyx but the protector of life. He’s actively preventing people, ourselves, from bringing about the fall. Makoto Yuki is “Him”.
@@Karmadillo-qh3jv Makoto probably has the highest amount of will power of anyone in the series for sure. I don’t think anyone else could’ve matched sacrificing your soul, and then living for a couple months after that. Regarding the answer, you’re totally right he made the seal not so much to defeat NYX, but to hide it from the will of the masses. It’s a good call back to what Takaya says in the game near the end where he’s like “the people wish for the fall to come.” That’s just a paraphrase but you get the idea haha
Bruh I freaking love Makoto and he's my favorite Persona protagonist so with that said I constantly think about his character but you just made me realize things I haven't even considered about him before, thanks!
Your point on Thanatos ripping apart Orpheus could also be looked as how Death ripped apart Makoto's life. The death of his parents destroyed him, and its shown in how the figure of Orpheus, who looks like Yuki, was consumed and eventually destroyed
It could also be quite literall, with Thanatos subcobtiously needing to escape Makoto body and is able to do so for just a brief moment before burning out himself as well.
In P4 Margaret comments that Elizabeth left her position as Igor assistant to search for a way to free Makoto from the seal, so his story may not be over yet.
@@chiffoncakeandteaThat is up to debate but we saw the collective unconcious birth a god and we know Igor although very powerful also serves Philemon. We also know that Makoto is a Messiah in the persona universe and have a lot of parallels with jesus isn't it farfetch to wonder if he will return on the "third day" too like persona 6.
@@LuizOtavioZen i doubt it. Remember that “messiah”, while using some Jesus symbolism, never establishes itself as “Jesus”. Messiah is a UNIVERSAL figure. This isn’t like Ren who has Satanael, explicitly a Christian demon or Yu who uses a Japanese one. The themes of the game are less Christianity in focus and more Greek tragedy. Makoto does “return” to fulfill his promise in March before leaving again. He’s already returned and it’s doubtful he’ll return a 2nd time. It’s also kinda funny ppl keep saying this about the mc when the game itself makes a comment about Christian propaganda obscuring truth. The truth is that he’s dead, and the Christian concepts are what ppl use to say he could return. If anything, his soul can be freed but with what the Answer establishes, it feels pointless and destroys the meaning of the epilogue. I know ppl don’t like the message cus they want purely happy endings, but a story about how ppl regress and the continuous fight to stay hopeful is a good one.1
@@BelBelle468You raise good points but i disagree when you say that it could not happen because the theme of the game is more a greek tragedy than a christian fable. There are plenty of greek mythological figures that came back from the realm of the dead and there are a lot of parallel between Makoto and Jesus, hell he was even crucified at one point in the story and the seal resembles that. Elizabeth looking for a way to save him means it is not impossible otherwise Igor and Philemon would've prevent her from doing it. If his soul can be freed it means he could come back, we've seen weider things in the personaverse. How he would return is debatable, because like you said having him back like nothing happened would be against the epilogue. But seeing him return as a new guide like Igor would've make his story come full circle and we seen Igor been replaced once already. But that is just my theory. And everyone is free to disagree.
I've been searching for Makoto's character analysis since the release of P3 Reload, and I found one. Finally. Your essay here is telling that you understand Makoto's character. Good job. So yeah, let me say this that I freaking love Makoto. He's my fav persona protagonist. I could say his character development is one of the best. It's beautiful really. From a boy who doesn't care about anything, to a boy who do care about everything. It's always touched me ngl. Your essay here even helped me voicing about what I feel about Makoto, especially his charm. FYI, in my eyes, Makoto has this "charm" that made him different from Yu and Ren. Sure Yu and Ren are charming too as protagonist, but Makoto just feel different. Like, Makoto has this natural charm that made you know that you can count on him. It's hard to put it into a words, but it was like everything will be okay as long as he's there (something like that). Definitely a charming leader, and your words helped me realize that it was his connection to Orpheus lore that made Makoto feels so different. Dude really is a badass. Although his character design can be considered cute for me, he held so much resolve and power. It's like a reminder don't judge the book by it's cover lol. Again, good job. I'm enjoying this character analysis. Thank you for the video! 👌
Thank you so much for the kind words! I’m glad this video was what you were looking for! I do understand what you mean by him having a different charm than Narukami or Ren. They all have fairly similar impacts and what not and are the backbone of their respective teams, but Makoto is a bit different just because of the nature of his character. He’s a lot more low key and reserved than Ren or Narukami, so I think that plays a big part of it in my opinion.
@@YandereGogeta IKR, Makoto just feels so matured if we compared him to Narukami and Ren. He's not your typical high schooler. Too reserved, but that's what I like about his character. I do really hope we can see Makoto more, but lore wise, we can't have him since he's dead 😭
Love your video, truly made me realize how deep Makoto's personality is, and how the Aigis quote "You don't have to save the world to find your answer to life" makes more sense and shows us how they grow up mentally. Really makes you think after the ending that you should be enjoying your journey in this life. I hope you could make a video about "The answer" I think it has the material to complement how to endure the duel to a loss.
I'll definitely be making a video about The Answer at some point! Aigis' quote really does hit hard and it encapsulates the whole point of the game for me. Thank you for the support!
6:19 honestly to me I've always read the heavy breathing as him having flashbacks to his parents, and being so stressed and overwhelmed that he was contemplating ending his own life right then and there, thinking the invoker was a real gun, but after Pharos appeared he realized what it would actually do and then tried to summon his persona
I feel like this game did change my life, i remember my early life i clearly had no goal, having cringe ahh divorced parents that also had drug problems broke my early childhood and filled me with a deep depression that also ruined many of my relationships over the years. To this day i still remember how hard i cried as makoto closed his eyes at the end, the words aigis said "sometimes we just need to care for someone, and thats enough" (I'm paraphrasing here i know but she said something akin to that) resonated so much within my soul i broke down for hours, all I've ever wanted was to be loved by someone else for all my life. I remember the secon life "goal" I'd set myself was to live a normal life with a family and a nice paying job. Those might seem like mediocre things but to me they were impossible to even begin to comprehend, once i hit 21ish (still very depressed) i felt this stinging paing in my chest and this insane will to live/fear of death I'll never forget, i felt like the world was closing in on me, that i had nothing and no one and it kinda switched something in me, it truly made me want to live, that's the beginning of how i stopped being fully depressed. My goal in life is no longer to be loved or be wanted or to bear children or to try and beat my parents at their own game, i just want to be nice, be kind to the people i love such as my family and my friends, i want them to be happy and i want to believe that if one day I'm gone, they'll be glad they met me, not because of my achievements but because of our memories together. I'm not perfect i still have a ways to go, i still sometimes desire love, sometimes i project this desire unto others by telling them stuff like "hey, if you ever feel alone I'm always here to help, i care for you" but in reality I'm telling that to myself, I'm projecting my need of being cared unto others and it's sad, even for me, befause im hiding it behind being nice, but the first part to changing anything is to recognize it. i just played reload and it made me cry too, makotos life was beautiful, filled with great memories, with friends aplenty and they for sure will remember him forever, i want that, i don't want to be loved for the sake of being loved, i want to learn to love myself to love others and to be remembered fondly, like him someday. Thank you if you read all of this, just randomly venting here at 3 am haha, have a nice day/night and hope you have a nice fulfilling life :)
I did read all of it, and I really appreciate you leaving this comment. I may not know you personally, but just from your comment, I’m really proud of you and how far you’ve come. I’m sure everything will come to fruition for you, just keep on pushing my friend. I’m glad this game was able to resonate so deeply for you, and I’m wishing the best for you going forward.
The arcana of his personal personas are quite interesting. Orpheus is the Fool, Thanatos is Death, The Messiah is Judgement. As a begginer Tarot reader this would be what I could interpret them as. He is a curious individual who is open to trying out most things yet lacking a strong conviction or direction, a lot of changes will happen to him on his journey and some could be quick and abrupt which can leave lasting impressions on them, should he be open to these changes and learn from them then it could lead him to experience a change in their outlook giving them the strength of their newfound conviction to face what the world will will throw at them.
Something I never see mentioned about Makoto is also how *early* he seems to be set up as Saviour. His first Fusion Spell is Cadenza, which is in part born of Orpheus. It's effect is healing damage and increasing evasion/hit rate. In other words, it heals what damage had been done in the past and increases the parties chances of avoiding similar misfortune in the future. It already sets him up at the start to not only heal/move on from his own trauma, but those around him as well. And this follows up later in the Fusion of Messiah with (what I personally at least would describe as its "unique" skill) Salvation, fully restoring the parties HP and recovering ailments. I'd like to think its not just game balance that stops this spell from straight up raising people but also the fact that the entire story of P3 is reconciling with the past, healing and moving on, even if you've suffered loss and misery along the way.
God this game speaks to me so much on a personal level Persona 3 is one of the most beautiful stories I’ve ever experienced in a video game it brings me tears every time
@@YandereGogeta Well like Okumura's palace, Futaba's palace, and maruki's palace had puzzle elements in them. basically, I mean that I like that it's more straightforward.
Goated as fuck video Yan, kind of changed my outlook on not just Makoto as a protagonist but even Persona 3’s story telling itself, this story is incredible
Thank you Luke that means a lot! I tried to really emphasize the smaller (and bigger) details of the story in a way that would make it fun and educational. I think it turned out really well!
The reason why Makoto Yuki is my favorite protagonist is because of how much I resonated with his story. I felt for him so much when he closed himself to others in fear of losing people he loved and learning to overcome it. This game actually changed my life and helped me through a very difficult time of my life, helped me understand why I needed to keep living and what I need to live for. While I still struggle, I often look back to the lessons of Makoto's and P3's overall story to remind me of the what's important. The movie did a really great job expanding on his character because I feel like its not as apparent in the game about his struggle with his emotions and the death of his parents, and so when I played Reload I tried role playing a bit with the extra characterization from the movie. It's actually a wonderful thing that a game can affect people's lives so strongly. Thank you for making this analysis it opened my eyes to some things I missed about his character story and design.
Thank you for sharing this comment! I'm glad you enjoyed this video. It's quite amazing how many lives this game has managed to change, and I wonder if Reload will do it for a new generation of players just like it did for the players of the original games all the way back then.
This game literally changed the way I perceive life, that final speech from Aigis simply destroyed me inside, every time I think about it I simply get anguish in my heart, Makoto being a character who didn't see meaning in his life and we seeing this changing during the entire work, so that in the end, his promises, his ambitions, his youth, his entire life are lost, but for the good of humanity, and for the good of his friends, it is a beautiful thing to see
I am so glad that I was recommended this video. Not only have I come across a great RUclipsr but I'm also able to understand how to get out of dark places like Makoto has!!
I don’t see a lot of people pointing this out but isn’t ryoji while being thantanos he’s in the form of Orpheus. He’s always associated with music and the music room, he’s extremely charming and flirty. When ryoji says makoto has become a part of him while also looking like makoto he is the form of makotos personality before makoto was sealed with death(both by literally being sealed and by witnessing the death of his parents). I believe ryoji(pre memory regain) is the man makoto would have been if not for death. So it’s quite ironic that death the reason he couldn’t become ryoji takes the form of ryoji. But just like Orpheus has become part of death, death has become part of Orpheus and with both those elements you get the messiah, you get Makoto Yuki.
You could definitely see it that way but it’s more so that Ryoji took after Makoto himself after being carried by him for all those years. Another commenter said it well where he’s kind of like Makoto’s shadow in a sense, just more upbeat than Makoto himself.
i can even began to describe the way i cried at the end not 1 not 2 but every single time i have finished either a game or the movies, even now to this day with reload.. i cant help but cry eveeytime i see the end or at least shed a tear at memories of you. Makoto has always been my favorite character, despite being a silent protagonist just look at his character develop its just... so sublime, majestic, beautiful. I love him so much, This game changed my life, he and p3 taught me 'how to live' no i wasnt aphatethic like makoto but i never felt 'alive' either, i was 14 when i first played P3FES i didnt felt 'alive' in the sense of feeling worthless like i wasnt doing anything good, i looked at my friends all with talents and skills.. but me? I only had my hobbies such as listening to music and videogames my friends also got better grades and i just felt really really inferior, worthless and well even now at 18 i dont really have what you would call a great talent except maybe that i speak 2 languages and im currently learning 2 more, im happy to say that it makes proud. But to me back then when i was still learning english it felt like it was the only good thing i had, the only worth, my only value. I feared failure and my parents disappointment while not being told to get the best grades they always wanted me to do great so i always found myself comparing myself to everyone else, crying because of a single bad grade and just feeling so anxious seeing my friends do better in most things if not all with little to no apparent effort I related to makoto a lot because i simply did what i was asked to do, head on no hesitation you could say i was a good kidand well thats was about it back then, but did really cared about grades? Was it really important to me? Was that what i wanted to do? Couldnt i just be happy trying my best with no pressure? I never wanted to be the best at school just be myself, but now while i may not be the most interesting or skilled person im can confidently say.. that im happy with myself :) persona 3 and in fact the whole persona franchise played a great role in that and ill always be grateful for that. But the thing that P3 and Makoto helped me with the most was just what p3 knows to teach accepting life and accepting death, a couple of years before getting to know persona and p3 i lost a really close family member an uncle that i was really close to, and i struggled with accepting that he was gone i couldnt hear his name without wanting to cry, so after learning about makotos past i once again related to him aswell as the other characters, yukari, ken, koromaru, mitsuru, akihiko.. i knew that feeling but watching as makoto and the others stuck together and kept moving forward brought me a warm feeling perhaps calmness or happiness by the end.. makotos end of the journey brought back that feeling of lost, i cried a lot that first time (still cried every other time i finished the game again, watched the movies, listened to memories of you, or recently when finished reload) but just like SEES i had to keep living, im still alive... as the game itself would say memento mori... remember that you will die, i have to life my life to the fullest, enjoy every little joy that a new day brings, in the end the same awaits to all of us but thats why share with your loved ones and live even if it can be hard sometimes its important, to live knowing that just existing is reason enough to live, you dont need to change the world or be a great goal to have a reason to live, something as simple as enjoying your hobbies, learn something new, do what you like to do, looking forward to something no matter how bif or small, spend time with your loved ones.. is more than enough reason to live Thats also why akinaris social link (best social link ever it hits hard though) is my favorite of all the franchise, just existing is enough reason to live and to do what you like :") Last but not least THE MUSIC i love it so much my fsvorite ost right there with sonic, while playing reload the first time i got to hear color your night for the first time i felt full of love, like as if atlus made the song with tha purpose of making you feel welcome: a willingness to face challenges and keep moving forward no matter what obstacles may arise, the impact one person can have on another's life, bringing joy and colors to ones life, expressing gratitude for the support and strength.. I really like to think that color your night has a lot to do with makoto maybe even a little more than burn my dread Another wander in the night Let me paint the view Colour the town with my light For every moment shared with you I like to think that the chorus here its talking about how makoto enjoys spent time with everyone and the other way around Not out in the day But never fully gone Going to be back again Until the coming of a dawn While this one talks to the fans, even if we know how things will end, that doesnt stop us from being able to enjoy the journey once more and go to the very end with makoto and SEES, even with the end they will still be there for us everytime we want to take the journey, while the the rest of the chorus will be talking about how sees will stay together no matter what.. thats what i think anyway 😅 Lastly id like to say that the first time i finished the game or rather the game finished with me (😭) i felt like i grew up with makoto for the better and P3 will always be an important game for me :) IM SO SORRY FOR TALKING SO MUCH 😔🤐
No need to say sorry I really appreciate you leaving this lengthy comment! That's why I said I would respond to all of the comments near the end of the video! I of course can't respond to the entire comment, but I will say that I read all of it, and I'm really happy to hear about how far you've come. Hearing all of the stories of people such as yourself on how this game helped to change your life is magical to me, and the fact my video was able to bring forth such thought provoking discussions such as this one makes me proud. You could say that this video, and the videos I've done since, are a reason I like to live. Just waking up and seeing comments like this, talking about things I like, and getting to see my passions shine makes me happy. I only say this to add onto what you said about the small (or big) things in life making it all worth it. To wrap up this comment all I wanna say is that I might not know you personally, but just from your comment, you seem like a kind soul, and I'm proud of how far you've come. I'm wishing you the best in the future, and always remember to keep your head up!
I absolutely love Makoto as a protagonist and as a person. His change throughout the game is one of the biggest character developments in the persona series, and one you don't even really recognize at first if you aren't looking closely. He goes from seeing life as useless and worthless, only living because he's not dead, to valueing life so much. Literally seeing death as nothing to be scared of at first because he has nothing valueable in life, to seeing death as nothing to be scared of in the end BECAUSE he has found so many valueable things in life, like all the friends, bonds and memories he's made that are worth it to protect and fight for them at any cost.
You summed it all up really well! His character arc is beautiful and I think it's a story that has made me more emotional than almost any other game I have played
Makoto went from a boy I no longer have a reason for living what’s the point to I found a reason to not fear death I have friends people I care for to protect Also the persona series taught me don’t be afraid of your own fear and how you chose your way of life just be yourself and find happiness also keep those you love around you and don’t take them from granted like how you are their light through darkness your friends are your power that slash through the darkness
That’s great that the series was able to teach you those kinds of things! Persona has a lot of positive messages, and it’s nice to see it impacted you in such a way.
An interesting fact about Makoto is that, if you fuse both "Makoto Yuki" and "Minato Arisato" as you would personas or second and third awakenings, his name would be "Mikoto Ariyuki", which roughly translates to "Lord/Highness Of Existence/Happiness/The Deliberate/Unselfish/Servanthood", alotted to be "green", "four", "King Of Life Over Death". And if you fuse "Sakuya" and "Kotone" into "Sakone Shiomi", which would more or less translate to "Wisdom/Intelligence/Humanity/Sound Of The Sea Waves". *(I'll be calling the protagonist Mikoto Ariyuki, just like I do in all my playthroughs) If you recall Persona 3's ending, right before Mikoto Ariyuki unleashes The Seal over Nyx, he was given The Universe Arcana, and if you know anything about the Collective Unconscious and the lore behind Persona after what happened in Persona 2, you know that reality was remade in such a way that humanity would survive as long as certain people never met nor remembered what happened about the loss of humanity, all within a new universe. Also, Ryoji, as Nyx's Avatar, is treated as Death being given humanity, sort of like a being "coming down" from many dimensions and compressed into a single being to be able to communicate with other humans after being freed from matter. Well, what if that's exactly the case with Mikoto Ariyuki? Both Mikoto and Ryoji are the lore all over again: Before being Ryoji, Death existed before Mikoto was born, the same way the maternal mother or alien entity known as Nyx existed before The Earth was as it is, and only after Death came to dwell inside Mikoto did a metamorphosis occur, and the one who put it inside Mikoto was an Aeon; Aegis. Going by the same logic of "I am thou, thou art I", it means as much as: Death was introduced to the Universe, and hit the Earth, which forced it to adapt via a dimension known as the Collective Unconcious. This happened in the form of celestial bodies colliding, and then, it happened in the form of people. Ergo, Ryoji is Death, and Mikoto is The Universe being born human, through which the Collective Unconscious lives. Mikoto isn't just a man living inside the Collective Unconscious, he IS the Collective Unconscious given human form and also the king over existence as a whole who bestows the same power, through the sea of souls, to allow for the birth of other souls that come after him. He IS the Universe and the sea of souls in human form, battling Death to prevent Death from overcoming all lifeforms, and the one to bring happiness in a world desolate with depression. To put it simply, if Philemon is the Master of the Collective Unconscious, Mikoto is what devides Death from the Universe, and also the Universe, and he willingly signed a contract, long before he was born, as a soul, just as Yu and Akiren did, hence, why there's a contract each time before birth and rebirth, and the contract in Mikoto's dorm, is basically a reconfirmation of what the player does, since he was born already having sealed his fate, which is why he is always predestined to reincarnate, each time, forever, in order to preserve the continual existence of all things within the Universe. In many ways, Mikoto would be The Universe born as a result of the failure to save humanity in the previous reality in Persona 2, he would also be The Universe given human form, also The King And Servant Of The Collective Unconscious, as well as The Universe not dying, but simply returning to its original, formless state after The Universe passes away in human form, ultimately "ascending", while Death was given life through it so that, from a formless entity, he became a human lifeform. The theme playing in the final battle, or "The Hymn Of The Sea Of Souls", while fighting Nyx's avatar, is The Universe Fighting Death, and I don't mean it because of the tarot cards: I mean it quite literally. The tarots are a representation of who Death and the Universe are, so by logic, Ryoji is literally Death, and Mikoto is The Universe in human form, realizing that he is not just merely a lifeform, and, transcending, he straight-up levitates and enters the moon to defeat Death through the medium he created known as the Collective Unconscious. Essentially, it means that Mikoto is the ruler and simultanously the servant of the collective unconscious, because, before he initiated the cycles of rebirth, he designed everything in such a way that he would die and transform Death into Life so that, by giving his life, another might live, and this happens over and over and over again without end, matrix-style. Basically, The Universe is conscious and is a man, both King and Servant of the Collective Unconscious he created, together with his velvet servants and Philemon, who are at the core of the Collective Unconscious. So, whenever you hear the Hymn Of The Soul during the final battles, remember that the Sea Of Souls is rooting for their Master, and also the Master over Death and Tartarus above Ryoji, Death and Nyx, and also the Father of all lifeforms of this sub-franchise called Persona. To put it another way, you could say that Mikoto is somewhere above Philemon the same way as, say, Joshua and co. from The World Ends With You are from a being superior to them, in terms of authority and dominion over various places and dimensions. Mikoto handicaps himself by becoming human, and so, he can die, but only in the sense of merely being "freed" from a material vessel, since he still continues to exist. Analyzing his character, he's basically also the father of hypnos, father of dreams. Remember that "gods" in greek and roman perception are just concepts and phenomenon of nature and universal existences, not actual people, so it means as much as "father of hypnos", or "father of dreams", which is represented as a butterfly, and also the father of souls beyond a physical reality. So, in conclusion, you could say that Mikoto is the ethereal realm that serves as a medium for countless Persona universes to exist, so he's the father of entire humanities and nations, which, in "the world beyond matter", "the world of wills, thoughts and emotions", he is regarded in highest esteem by angelic and human souls, to the point where devils fear him. Well, I don't know how accurate that may be, since it's only my thoughts on what his existence implies, but considering the heavy implications of messianic proportions, well, I don't think it's too farfetched to say he's not just anybody even beyond physical life. Always remember that when The Aeon had him in her laps, it was The Universe all along, and it was also The Aeon that introduced Death into The Universe, learning the value of life, both in astrological and human form.
There's no way I can respond to all of this, but I will say that this is a really in depth comment and you definitely thought this through very well. It's interesting that the name combined can result in a fairly different meaning that still represents him well. Almost makes you wonder if it was on purpose, but most likely it was a coincidence. This comment was a really interesting read though thank you for sharing it!
@@YandereGogeta Sure thing! Honestly, I think it's one of those things you only get to find out if you really get into it deeply. I "accidentally" found out about this because I couldn't decide what name to go with on my playthroughs, so I simply mixed the names and, out of curiosity, searched for the meaning after the names being "fused" together, and that's more or less how I went about discovering this. After that, all I really did was piece two and two together and ended up making some more discoveries.
I really like how Makoto went from being an absolute isolationist to becoming a social person, that really shows that because he joined S.E.E.S he gained a new aspect to his live and it is really inspirational how he was willing to give up everything to prevent the death of his friends. In the Beginning he is death and at the end he is life. That's at least how I see it
I believe something that would be cool is to have Makoto confront Aigis about the death of his parents. I think it would be neat is if he initially blamed Aigis for what happened to his parents once he found out what happened on the bridge, being the most emotionally he’s ever been at this point. And reflecting the people both Makoto and Aigis used to be, while Aigis used to be a stoic machine who rushed into battle with no regard for others, Makoto used to be a stoic man who rushed into battle with no regard for himself, and he could acknowledge that not only Aigis has grown passed that, but he has as well. But I understand why they didn’t do that and I do like what they went for
That could have been a really cool premise and it would have been a big moment of growth and vulnerability for both of them to grow out of together, which would have then made the impact of The Answer hit even harder. Like you said though it's understandable why they didn't take that path since Makoto just isn't that kind of person he's way too understanding and kind
It frustrates me to see a lot of people say that the P3MC is just cardboard. He clearly has a personality that's outlined by his choices. He can choose to be kind, enabling, or outright apathetic and mean. That is how it is for all the Persona MCs so the claim they're blank slates is categorially false. It's more like you as a player are making the choice of whether they choose to be kinder or give into intrusive thoughts. And that's especially true of P3 where some of his dialog choices are outright heartless like him telling Maiko it's her fault for her parents getting divorced. Also, there's how he affects the other characters. Elizabeth leaves the Velvet Room and is still the first and only attendant to do so. On top of that she inherits Thanatos. Then you have Aigis who is a robot who is so profoundly changed by the MC that her arcana changes to the Fool arcana and she inherits the power of the Wild Card. And to this day she is the only character to have done that.
34:47 Persona 3 vanilla was the first Persona Game I played and Since then I have played everything that cam afterwards(outside of some Japanese Exclusive stuff) as for Makoto Yuki, I just want him to Come back so That we can see him as a character in more stuff(I would've loved it if he became a fighter in P4U)
I don't really want to make a big comment or anything like that, but i've just finished reload, being my second playthrough and fes my first, i just have to say, this game helped me overcome my anxiety with death and taught a lot of lessons. Today is my favorite game of the franchise and maybe even more. But i digress, this game is really special in every type of thing you can think about, but I don't like the fans that want to take out the merit of the younger brothers of this one, they are great games too,and shoudn't get mad for a new Persona 5 spin off, I do think is time to leave the ip to rest, but this one would have received the same treatment if it where as popular in the time and probably will receive this treatment now with the ramake(people tend to forget P4 and it spin off fase). In the end, is my favorite one and hope to come back one day to play portable, and thanks for the great video
That's dope to hear that Persona 3 managed to teach and help you with your personal issues. This game is really special and tackles important issues in a really superb way, especially Reload now in my opinion. I would definitely recommend giving portable a shot just for the femc route it's really enjoyable! Thank you for your support!!
Thanks for a well thought out and beautiful analysis of an amazing character. Persona 3 always will have a very special place in my heart. I lost a parent when I was young, and throughout my entire life have struggled with loneliness, while at the same time pushing away those who care about me. P3 helped me realize that life IS worth living, and having others around you to live it with is important too.
Thank you for sharing your comment! I always love hearing about how this game has impacted people, and your story is great to hear. I’m glad to hear this game was able to help you in a dark time and help you realize life is worth living. Just remember you are loved!
22:14 I just love this moment so much, how it was voice acted and animated. There’s so much struggle in it from him fighting himself and his desperate need to act to actively deflect the attack for the others
Also some people don't like Burn My Dread Reload Version but I love it because of Makoto's POV! I think it makes me see Makoto even clearer, and the fact that he knew everything, but still did it. It was clear as a day. The lyrics were god-tier. I mean I love it just because of its lyrics alone.
Oh I absolutely love the Burn My Dread -Final Battle- Reload version. Lotus Juice went berserk on the lyrics, and the new singer's role grew on me a lot even though it sounds like she's saying Burn my Bread for real haha
Dunno if you've played p2 but Makoto (p2 spoilers) and Tatsuya share somewhat similar fates, Makoto died to save the world from death whereas Tatsuya at the end of Eternal Punishment makes the choice to return to the destroyed timeline of Innocent Sin because if he stays it could cause the 2 universes to try and merge again, he has to leave behind everyone and go to what is effectively a single city floating above a destroyed earth that never rotates, and it's partially his fault.
I feel Makoto is very underappreciated because fans of Kotone are putting everything about her over Makoto Makoto has rhe original game, FES, Reload, the movies, the manga, to really tell you his character is more than surface level Kotone really only has the stage play and Q2, donr put her on this same level
@@YandereGogeta now we just need for his "resurrection" it doesn't have to be that he fully 100% comes back from the dead But more on he's free from the Great seal and his soul can finally be free
I’m really curious as to femc’s thought processes as she goes through the same story, she had the same background as makoto but I’m unsure if she had the same apathy as him…
Here before this video blows up, this was such a good video! You absolutely put moments front and center that went over my head when watching the movies for the first time thanks for that! Only thing I can think of that wasn't mentioned was how Makoto held out for almost 2 months after sealing Nyx which just says so much about the mans resolve. Dudes a badass. Simply built different. Persona 3 is by no means a perfect game but its underlying themes and message is told almost masterfully. Persona 3 was the game that got me into the series. I have so much to say about this game but honestly what hasn't been said already? Love this game and its characters and I just seriously can't wait for Reload! Love Lotus Juice and am so fucking happy he's making music for the series again. Truly the game of all time
Here’s hoping the mystical algorithm blesses this video haha. Whether it does or not imma make more analysis videos for the other party members as well since it was a lot of fun! I’m glad to heard I was able to put some things for you to notice that you didn’t before in the video! My goal was to have at least a few things people didn’t know about before, or didn’t catch onto in the video. I really didn’t think about it too much when I was conceptualizing the video but you are absolutely right that I should have mentioned the fact that despite sacrificing his soul he survived for 2 months afterward solely to keep his promise. That definitely would’ve added to the impact of the narrative I was trying to tell. I can’t wait for reload either! It’s gonna be a great time for sure. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and kind words!
Call me crazy but i think would like makoto’s story to be continued His mortal body being dead, and Elizabeth showing that she is still trying to save him, I would like makoto to come back and save either become a velvet room attendant or replace Igor himself letting the old man finally retire from being in the velvet room He won’t be back as the hero but he can at least help the next and seeing as the next game would be persona 6 I feel it would be fitting for the persona 3 mc to help the mc of the game 3 games after his
Thank you for this beautiful analysis. I just beat Persona 3 for the first time this evening, with Persona 5 being my intro into the series... and well... I must say... Makoto and his journey... it resonated with me so much more than P5. Longing for more... I found myself discovering your channel, and enjoying this lovely character analysis. Exceptionally done, I feel even more in touch with his character and the story now than I did before, getting to see more information so respectfully presented. Thank you & subb'd !
Thank you so much! I’m glad I could fill your itch for more content revolving the game, and I’m really happy to see you have a better understanding of the story with this video! I have more analysis videos planned for the other Persona 3 characters if you’re interested in checking those out when they come.
Something I despise of many jrgs is how the main protagonist always has to sacrifice themselves in the end for the greater good or others. What about the ones left behind? Those who love him so much or want to be always with him like Aigis :c I know he is the seal that must not be broken, but man, it hurts after seeing the story. I do wish they do give him some sort of freedom, I remember that in other games, I think it was P4AU, where Elizabeth is still looking for a way to save him
It is indeed Arena where Liz is on a journey to save his soul. I think eventually the series is going to lead up to freeing his soul, but I have no clue when or how. In The Answer it says his soul can be freed if Erebus is destroyed completely somehow, and Aigis says she’s sure it’ll happen, and then Liz is on her journey as well. If they don’t give that a conclusion after saying that, then I just wonder what the point of saying it in the first place was
Makoto to me, is the best protagonist by far. He has an imense character development, that you can see through his reactions, his expressions and his answers during the game. The whole reason I think P3 vanilla/FEs is better than Portable was literally that by focusing only on his own Journey instead of someone's else with a totally different personality and outlook in life, we could fully see his potential as a protagonist. And the Remake just takes this to the next level. His expression when he see's the final events for the Sun Arcana, his expressions when he eats a bad food, the game makes sure to expose the fact that he's a glutton, he loves to eat, and bad food just hurts his soul, this little detail is so fucking awesome when you notice with Fuuka's events. And that's why I kinda hate FemC. As a character, she's a fun extra. A different way of playing the same game. But when I saw the outrage of people because of the lack of her campaign, I felt... Angry and Sad. Because the truth is: The story of Persona 3 only truly works with Makoto, because of the way he works. He starts souless, he can be very apathetic to others, the answers you can give him are mostly meh, he never shows too much, and as the game goes by and he meet his friends and interacts to them, the answers even change his way of expressions with body language. The guys goes from auto-pilot to fully alive, to the point he finds his answer to the meaning of life itself. And as much as I think FemC is a good addition and it's a fun one, I do not thing she's a substitute, and people being angry because there's no FemC feels like they don't understand the story and the writing of Makoto. It's like someone wanting a Re-writting of Harry Potter, but instead of Harry being a guy, now he's a girl named Hallie. Instead of being a sassy boy who's being bulied his entire childhood and who's stubborn as a mule, he's now a smart, introverted person who knows exactly what to say to not have the worst outcome. By knowing that, she starts doing the right things just to barely avoid her family to snap out at her every time, even if they're still annoying, she's able to grab a letter of her Hogwarts invitation and hide it under her clothes before she delivers the mals to her uncle this way they never find out she gets the letter, but as she reads it she doubts it's content, and so on. With a character that is literally the polar opposite of Harry, quiet but extremely smart she can literally change the entire meaning of the story by not having the character flaws Harry has in the original novels.
Thank you for giving your insight on Makoto and Femc because I haven't had someone really try and explain in depth on why they don't like her without it devolving into some weird argument. Me personally, while I wasn't mad or angry that femc wasn't in reload, I was disappointed. Here's the thing, though, I do actually agree that Femc isn't a very well-written route, but that is exactly why I wanted to see her in reload. Imagine if they remade her route, and instead of it being a shadow of Makoto's route, they actually took the time to flesh it out and make it into something better. I think that could've been really cool and it also would have alleviated a lot of the issues people seem to have with femc. The other main reason I would've liked to see her back is because she's not really present in a lot of media. She basically only had Persona 3 Portable and Persona Q2. I think she deserved a little more for being a modern Persona protagonist. The last main reason I would've liked to see her back is because a lot of people like her, and can relate more to her route since she's the opposite gender of Makoto. I can't really go in detail on this last point because I am a male, but I think having the female protagonist return would have been overall a healthy thing all around. I understand it would take a lot of development, but a DLC or a standalone game (something like InFamous First Light) could have been a good compromise. Regardless of all of that, though, I'm glad to hear that he's your favorite protag, and that you enjoyed him so much! I don't know if I can say he's my personal favorite, but I can say he's certainly the most interesting and well-written out of the modern Persona protags. Thank you for your comment!
@@YandereGogeta well I do have good news for your though. People found table for characters that are not in the game. That doesn't exist in it at all actually. Two names specifically are listed but never used and both of them are names from social links for FEMC. SO at the very least they considered adding her later on and considering how well p3r sold and how much people are crying for her to be in the game I think she will be added in an expansion. Maybe as a separate re release later on. Her route should be re worked with the same love as Makoto and she needs to be different than him but not feel like she's just an afterthought which is what I feel about her route in p3p. Like she was added in a rush to sell the game. Which is a shame. P3 have some heavy themes and I want them honored. Sadly making her save aragaki takes away all of the development of aki and Ken for me too.
To me I feel that FemC is also kind of soulless, but in a way that is kind of different. She feels friendly, but I feel she also doesn't care too. It's like someone who looks friendly, but also very distant.
35:28 Does he though? I like to think he remembers cause like he holds on long to the promised day with his friends., and in the game in the true end when Yukari calls Aigis out when she stares at the trio the game prefers her as her name and while in the bad end the game refers her as just “Girl”. And when Aigis knocks on his room, and she cried Makoto immediately comforted her. Besides i think it’s pretty sad if he forgets,considering how his health is slowly deteriorating and he doesn’t know why
I really think he does forget because in both the movie and the manga he forgets, and then he and Aigis remember sooner than the others. In the game, it’s kind of vague on whether he forgot or not, but just going off the dialogue options I interpret it as him forgetting as well, until he sees Aigis on March 4th with Junpei and Yukari.
@@YandereGogetaHonestly at the end of the day it’s up to the players interpretation. Makoto is a silent protagonist first and while he has the base foundations of his characters its determined to us on how to interpret him. Manga author and the movie director is how interpreted him. My interpretation for him is that he remembers it all this time Anyway, great video man. Really opens my eyes and how quite complex Makoto is as a character
He totally remembers . I also think he knows he’s ganna die from the outset of even using the attack. He keeps it to himself cause he assumes he can’t change it maybe?
Thank you for the video! I'm so glad the algorithm blessed me with this and lead me to your channel. I really really love Makoto and that was in a huge part due to the movies' portrayal of him and his character development (it's also why I call him Makoto even though I knew him as Minato among the fandom first). I think it's really fascinating how he has an arc across each movie as well as across movies, and how his character development isn't linear. He doesn't just keep getting better as the movies progress, but instead finds something important to him, then starts to fear losing these important friendships, then regresses because of his guilt, then finally finds his resolve to push through. I think you articulated really well how his character develops and the reasons I love him so much. It's also really interesting how his arc makes Strega such a good foil for him (the Chidori example you pointed out, as well as some new content in Reload regarding how Takaya feels about SEES trying to eliminate the Dark Hour). It's nice to find such a video essay delving into the movies' characterisation since those who probably haven't watched the movies often just think of him as a "blank slate"/"I don't care" character, and I do think this characterisation is somewhat in line with his other depictions in spinoffs such as PQ as well. Looking forward to more Persona analysis videos!
Thank you for your support! I agree entirely about what you said about the movies. I’m glad I decided to make this video because so many people have thanked me for representing him in a way past that “I don’t care” meme, and that’s really awesome to hear.
You know whats worst when you play the second time through amd henceforth? Every single character you interact with truly appreciate you and put their trust in you for the future. Especially with p3r and the new social events with the bros. Things about being together forever/ helping one another/ hoping to see more of each other all the while you as a player know that it is a fruitless endeavor since the mc will meet his demise at the end of his journey very soon.and i keep crying due to that.
Great video! I first watched Persona 3's movies but had trouble understanding a deeper meaning of it. I liked the music and some of the visuals. But only after beating the game a few hours ago I realized the struggle of makoto's existence and that he actually died/ became a seel without regrets.
The movies are great on their own, but they're really elevated after playing the game itself. The impact is a lot greater and the story gets super fleshed out
Got into this series because of Persona 5. I played Royal, Strikers, and P4: Golden. These are all great games and made me enjoy the franchise initially. After playing through Persona 3 Reload and now making plans to play the portable version of 3 though, I know that this is going to be one of those franchises that shapes and changes who you are as a person. Videos like this do a great job in showing me what these games and their stories do and how they impact people so deeply. I’m glad this video appeared in my recommended. Can’t wait to see what you make next buddy.
I can say confidently that Persona changed my life, so you’re definitely not wrong there haha. Portable, while a little rough around the edges, is a lot of fun! Especially with the femc route I’ll always shill for her haha. Thank you for the support!!
This is the only game besides ff15 (the campfire scene and credits sequence man) that actually made me tear up in the last 6 years. Just the soundtrack brings back memories. Persona always hits and makes you think about your own life, but I related to makoto a lot more than any other protagonist
Persona’s soundtrack is just way too iconic and fitting for what they go for. Speaking of FFXV, despite all the flaws that game had, I really enjoyed that one. Had a lot of fun with that cast of characters
I was not expecting to love everything about Persona 3 more then Persona 5. I fell in love with all the characters way more than I did with Persona 5. Its hard to put into words hiw amazing P3 is and what it means to me. I will say that I could have used this amazing story when I was going through a rough time some years ago. Yes the game existed back then, but Persona 3 Reload was beautifully made. 10/10. And thank you for your video and deep dive, mate!
Some strong scenes that were in the movie, like Makoto's "Live.." scene or aigis trying to kill ryoji scene, weren't in the reload game (sadly, i haven't played the FES or portable ver.) .. such pivotal lines why cut them out? Or are they in The Answer dlc? I personally felt that P3R had more of a happy theme throughout, whereas the movie and fes version felt much darker.
You gotta make one of these for each MC I wanna hear your conclusion on Yu Narukami as a whole. Especially after watching that fight against Margaret in the anime
My first time finishing p3 was with p3p and it left a massive impression on me, but just about this time a year ago the original p3 finally clicked in my head and i got obsessed with it (the tactics finally make sense to me!!!) And after a couple months of playing and taking in the whole world the ending hit me so hard it changed me permanently, i will never think the same way again
That ending is easily one of the hardest hitting and memorable ones in gaming for me. That’s really cool that you beat Portable and went back to the other versions! Did you ever play the femc route or just the male route?
@@ethanator611you should, feMC isn't just a gender swap, she's a whole character herself with a different personality and different connections to people.
Thank you so much for this character analysis. Persona 3 Reload was the first Persona game I completed. This video explained a lot to me about Makoto as a character. Because he is a silent character in the game, his growth flew over my head aside from the ending. Now I understand him better. Of course, I could always see his kindness and how much he cared for his friends. Thanks for the video!
Well put together analysis! Makoto has always been a favorite of mine and his characterization and arc as interpreted from the games and depicted in the movies has always resonated with me. I played P3 during a very transitional moment in my life, and the story and themes hit me really hard. Even after a couple of years since then and finishing reload, the ending still gets to me. Again, great analysis. Makoto is a surprisingly well written character, despite originally being a silent protagonist
Thank you for your comment and support! I played P3 around the middle or end of high school, and when I played it, it really made me consider what I wanted to do with my future, so I can resonate with you.
Honestly my favourite thing about Makoto's character has always been his relationship to death. To Pharos. To Ryoji. Because even from the very beginning after his parents' deaths, he never held any ill will towards death at all. He had death forced upon him, from Aigis and from the accident, and instead of raging against it, he accepted it as a part of life and deteriorated into apathy due to his fear of LIFE, not death. He never blamed Aigis and was afraid when Pharos left him. Ryoji was absolutely correct; Makoto is kind down to his very SOUL, choosing to love and forgive even death itself and the person who forced death upon him. Even during their final battle, he never showed any animosity towards Nyx. His journey was about growing to love life again, and he loved life so much that even death itself agreed, fought alongside him and gave him the key to the miracle to save everyone. I also just love this idea where at the beginning of the story, Makoto was forced to face death, and then by the end, he faces it willingly. Aigis forced death into him at the start, but then Makoto willingly walks into death as a sacrifice at the end. Thanatos forces itself out of Orpheus at the start, but then he and Orpheus willingly fuse together at the end. Pharos was in prison clothes and forced into Makoto's space, and Ryoji forced himself into Makoto's space but was accepted as his friend.
P3 is one of my favourite Persona games it really hit me, and i could relate to the MC cause i didn't care if i died but after playing through it i started to care about my life a little bit more plus there was the sun SL which was so sad he had a poor constitution and didn't have long to live and he just accepted it and thinks that no one will understand him but as you max it out he starts to open up and care and want to finish his story before he dies and when you max it out he disappears It's just like how the MC was at the beginning as you progress he starts to care and forge bonds with all his SL people say P5 is the best Persona game but you gotta give it to P3 and P3R for the best SL and the story it hits your emotions hard
The Sun social link in Persona 3 for me is the best social link in the series. Ties in with the themes and the characters more than any other link has done. I’m glad to hear this game was able to change your feelings on death, too.
i am playing persona 3 for the first time via reload and i already knew the premise of the story, but i feel like reload has impacted some of the scenes much more with its insane cutscene direction, and i'm only in july. i feel like since they already felt massively impactful in the games and movies, it can hit you hard in reload and i think that's the glory of it. despite knowing the story of the game, i was only able to stick with persona 3 because of the story and i'm really grateful that atlus made an hd remake for people to experience the game in such a beautiful and fun way
Reload definitely added a lot of great things, and it gives a lot of great moments with the characters. Even if you know everything from the original game or adaptations there’s more to learn about the characters, and that’s what a remake should strive to do. It’s very impressive
makoto is a character that i can relate to in every adaption. it's not an easy feat for me to see so much of myself in a character no matter what. back in my early high school years, I had repressed a lot of my issues- and I had this whole "who cares? I'm not gonna live anyway" kind of attitude. I just stopped caring. but, as time went on and as people became more insistent to be my friend, I began to change into who I am now. the game had a huge emotional impact on me, and it really made me rethink how I value my connections. I nearly cried watching the ending and after ryoji was revealed to be death itself, something about the characters just feels so real. I played reload in a weird part of my life, where I was about to leave behind a town I've lived in since I was 9 (I'm 17), so everything about the game just felt.. so personal. overall, the game and makoto are very special to me
This is a fantastic video. Im so glad persona 3 is getting a gorgeous remake! I'd like the answer added eventually, even as paid DLC, but thats another issue. I find Makotos backstory and the mythology surrounding his personas very interesting. I still think Ren from p5 may be my favorite of the 3 modern protagonists (ive never played portable, so idk bout the femc) but man its a tough choice. Makoto is very unique from his apathy to the sadness which results from his journeys completion. Really cool ark overall. I just enjoy the sarcasm you can put into Rens dialogue choices and everything a tiny bit more. However p3's story is hands down the best in my opinion.
Thank you for the kind words! I have faith they will add the answer as DLC. Call it my 6th sense if you will haha. I think Ren is a really good protagonist as well. He seems to get overhated a lot, but I think that's more a Persona 5 thing in general to be honest.
Seriously I love Makoto and some of the relationships he develops over time is just amazing. The analysis did make me realize the reason why I love another character though. Roxas from Kingdom Hearts, it's kind of interesting how many things they have in common. From both starting off as essentially "Blank slates" to fully developed and amazing people, it makes their endings hit so much harder. Side note - I haven't played the game but I'm curious about the difference and similarities between Makoto and Kotone? Especially since in Kotone version some of tradegies that happen can be prevented. Does that take away from her story or No?
I've been really interested in Kingdom Hearts I've just never had a good chance to delve into that world. I barely got past the first area in the first game and got to Squall in Traverse Town I believe it was, but I never got to continue. I would love to go back now that you've made that comparison! In my opinion I really don't think certain plot points take away from Kotone's route. Even though a certain person in particular can be saved and some things are a bit different, it doesn't change the overall point and impact in my opinion considering the fate of that said person I mentioned regardless.
I'm glad you think that way with Kotone! Sometime it feels like she gets forgotten, so I guess I'm glad she seems to have a positive light in you mind? (P.S if you want to know Roxas's story you'll have to play Kingdom Hearts 365/2 Days, it takes place after Kingdom Hearts 1 but before Kingdom Hearts 2. Head's up the game itself feels slow, but that is part of the point, you are essentially "living" these days with Roxas. So if you do decide to play KH, the first game is probably the "simplest" one concept/theme wise, but KH had STORY and LORE. You'll want to read everything, and I do mean everything. Since a lot of that stuff are in notes that you pick up/gain along the way. ........Sorry for the Kingdom Hearts rant.)
@YandereGogeta if you do wanna get into Kingdom Hearts, Gamechamp 3000 has a very clear and easy to understand play order video on her channel that explains when, what and why you should play each game in order
I love makoto bc he is somewhat like me bc I also lost lots off my emotions/diden't understand them yet always helped everyone I could bc I could, and I just like him, try too make friends and find a resolve in live bc I really wanna know what that stuff feels like. Also the neue design is just dope, I love blue so much.
oh and another thing in alot of stories about what happened to Orpheus he was actually killed for preaching same sex relationships because he was so heartbroken after losing his wife again that he started exclusively dating men
Yeah I did see those stories depicting him in that way, the only reason I didn't mention it is because I felt that wasn't too relevant to Makoto's characterization.
If you play as Kotone Ryoji is a romance option, apparently. But I will admit my little shipping heart had fun with this comment. Ryoji x P3 Protag!! (The other romances are good too!! This pairing is just my favorite)
Reload didn't exactly make it clear that he died at the end of the game. I didn't realize it when I beat the game and had to look it up. Everything else in this video was also me hearing it for the first time. I know the movies or anime adaptations of these games give a voice and a lot more development to the protagonists but like....maybe I wasn't paying attention in P3R but I never knew any of this about Makoto. Well, mostly his personality stuff. I suppose I could understand him a bit from his possible responses during the social links but I genuinely thought he was just an edgy emo kid from 2009 and not an apathetic loner who really didn't care if he lived or died.
I can say this game changed my life for sure. I had a really hard point in life and around then is when I found this game, seeing his journey and how he found his answer made me want to live on, I’ll forever hold this game close to my heart
Beating persona 3 fes several years ago literally saved me from myself. I always has struggled with myself as a person, always wanting to commit suicide because of how poor my mental was. i truly had no care for my own life or how me killling myself might affect those who cared for me. But persona 3 fes had truly changed my outlook on life and death itself and for those around me. Thinking back now i was selfish and am happy with my life now. Just finished persona 3 reload and it brought my love for persona 3 back to the front of my life. Stay strong people
I played persona 3 for the first time right after my grandfather passed away, while I was dealing with some other stuff. This game absolutely hit me hard, the message of treasuring life and understanding and accepting death as a natural part of life really helped me when i was feeling down. I think persone 3 made me "make peace with death" in a sense that I don't fear what will happen in the future, because I know i can live the present with who I love. And as the best social link in P3 says "If you love someone, let them know it.", you never know what will happen in the future, It's never too late to make sure the people around you know how important they are to you.
That's really amazing to hear this game was able to be there for you in a tough situation like that. Some of the social links in Persona 3 hit hard for me, and I gotta agree that line is one of the best there is. Thank you so much for sharing your story
@@YandereGogeta oh yeah she did said that she'll try to find or come in contact with the people that formed a bond with him.... so maybe all members of SEES could reunite again? who knows
One little correction Yukari only lost her Father Her mom is alive but Yukari views Her mother's idea of dating again as Disrespect towards her Father. The idea also Gets worse when she thinks Her Father caused the 12 Shadows to be released to cause damage
While I love Devil Survivor and Devil Survivors 2 Protagonist. I love Makoto's story more, he went through so much yet in the end he was able to find peace and happiness.
@@YandereGogeta They're great but when you watch the anime of Devil Survivor 2 you realize quickly that the whole thing took about a span of a week! Not only that but the lore in the first Devil Survivor about the Bel demons was actually quite interesting.
i have this wild speculation about how aigis is not aware of him dying because she's a robot and can't feel makoto's body heat. after all his body has been died long way before the rooftop scene, he's barely hang on with his soul, his body must be cold like a corpse already. i mean from dialogue with some social link, they're pointing out how pale he is
No one in S.E.E.S were aware he was dying there, they only knew he looked really ill, so you are correct. Her not being able to feel his cold skin makes sense as to why she wasn’t as concerned on the rooftop for sure
I lnow its a month late, but i just wanted to say that I ended up playing the FES version on PS2 during a very difficult time in my life. My mom had just passed away and i had recently found out that my biological dad killed himself when i was a few months old. So at that point i kinda had the same viewpoint as Makoto when i started playing. When i beat the Journey, i was balling my eyes out and soon learned to appreciate life as a whole and that dearh is not soming to be truly sad about.
I can't say I know what that felt like, but I'm really happy that this game was able to be there for you in a time like that. I can only really imagine how tough that was for you, but I'm glad things seem to be going better for you. I'm wishing the best for you going forward, my friend. Thank you for sharing this comment.
interestingly, if Erebus is trully erradicated he can stop being the seal, as seamingly impossible as that seems... if not for IS and EP being the one wrench in the cogs I allways tough interesting how how a few things are, like how Nix returns as the main enemy after P1 but more so, how interesting that P4 and P5 seem extreamly tailored to tackle IS ending, The power to destroy lies and the power to manifest desires, P3 has a bit of it too, but not as direct to P2 but more to P1
I have yet to play Persona 1 and 2 unfortunately so I cannot comment on those plot points too much, but I will say that if they do find a way to defeat Erebus that would be an insane plot point.
@@human3504 thats correct, thats why I said seamingly impossible BUT, if what happened in P2 IS gets resolved, Erebus will banish as well, may get reformed later tough, but seeing Nyx also changed after the events of P2 IS compared to her being in P1, there is a chance
still... i watch the ending like many many times... but still crying, idk maybe because makoto the only persona character who can make us feel like him
I heard of the nicknames for each mc of personq 3,4 and 5 from a video comment that I can’t remember but it goes like this Persona5: The Rebel Persona4: The Truthseeker Persona3: The Martyr
i really liked this character analysis, I think you made such a good job compiling clips from the movies. Made me really egage with your video! Are you planing on analysing the other SEES members as well?:)
I will be making analysis videos for every party member of S.E.E.S for sure. Ideally, over time, I’d like to do an analysis of all of the Investigation Team and Phantom Thieves as well!
A great video. My perhaps 1 disagreement is I don't like Mikoto's story picking up when the Shinji stuff is going down. I like the reminder he IS still kind of an outsider at that point. He cares now, a little, but still not quite there yet, not until he confronts Ryoji.
P3 arguably is the best persona game because its a celebration of life and death. All Personas after P3 couldn't match its tone, which is fine. Just back then when P3 came out and beating it and going into P4 is huge tonal shift. What's beautiful about the school setting P3 gave is a lot of us who played this game was in school and had all these similar feelings. It was the only videogame i cried to not because it was over but it made me feel. Thanks for this review man.
There is definitely a good argument for P3 being the best one. I first got into the Persona series in high school like you brought up and the setting did resonate with me a lot, and that’s partly why it stuck with me the way it did. Thank you for the support by the way!
First of all great video. You make me understand some aspects of the final that i didnt understand and make me apreciated and comprehend the personality of Makoto more that i originally did. The only thing that i question is the movies the right canon? Because i notice in your videos how some events change compare in the game like metting aegis or the last battle i think the movie way even thought i only watch the clips in the video they are the right way of the events. Also have you thought about making a vídeo about the arcanas in P3? i think with your comentary i can apreciated more the connection i make in the game. And final question ¿Who was your favorite arcana and why?
The thing with the movies is that even though they slightly change some things (like the initial Aigis scenes), it’s basically the same exact narrative as the game, so in my eyes it’s canon enough. I could make a video on the arcanas at some point probably. I might make that after I finish all of the other analysis videos for the P3 cast. My personal favorite arcana in Persona 3 is the Sun, which is Akinari’s social link. I think that story line fits the games theme perfectly, and it’s the only one in the whole persona series to make me cry once I was done with it. Thank you for the support! I’m glad this video helped you understand some things.
Thanks to the release of Reload I'm falling back into the Persona 3 rabbit hole again 😂 I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to the lore, due to me only watching the movies about 2 years ago, but P3 has a special place in my heart. The music, the story, and especially the overall beautiful message made me love it as much as I do. It really got me reflecting about my own life, and it shocked me because this is a freaking game, and I don't think a game has impacted me as much. I finally got my hands on Reload, which is actually the first persona game I'm playing. But knowing what happens at the end is so sad, and again, it's just a game but I never felt such sadness over a character death until Makoto 😭 It physically hurt after I finished the anime so I'm unprepared to watch it in the actual game 😭😭😭 There's just so much to appreciate about this game, and I felt this one on a deeper level than Persona 4 and 5, despite being introduced to Persona 5 first. Anyway enough yapping from me, great analysis! It was interesting and I'm surprised I watched the whole thing. You do Makoto justice🤣🤣
6:56 I have completely original experience regarding this Makoto awakening. The first time I played Persona 3 (not the FEZ version), it was late at night, and I was half tired. So during that cutscene, I saw Orpheus came out and fight the Fool shadow. But then I fell asleep when Thanatos break free. I woke up when Thanatos revert to Orpheus again. So, I was never aware of Thanatos at all. Then when I played FEZ, I was completely shocked when I saw Thanatos already appear in this scene.
played p3/watched the movies for the first time when i was goin through it. i had friends, but i didn't really appreciate them as much as i should've at the time bc of what i was going through. ik makoto is supposed to be a "blank slate" character sorta so the player can project themself onto him but i really felt a connection to his character, more than i did with the p4 and p5 protagonists. his arc helped me do some important self reflection and figure out what i actually want to do with my life. thank you emo jesus 🙏
I can kinda relate to that, but my case was with Persona 5. The whole power of friendship and bonds thing really hit me hard and man I value my connections and loved ones a lot more today than I did before. That’s awesome that Makoto was able to do that same thing for you that P5 did for me. Thank you for sharing this comment!
An impressive analysis, and a superb explanation of the protagonist's motivation and character arc. It makes me regret not having seen the P3 anime yet, now that I realize how much info I missed. In any case, great job! Your work is definitely worth a sub and a like. I'm looking forward to watching your other P3 analysis videos next.
Thank you so much for the support! Hopefully I can have the next analysis video up pretty soon. I definitely recommend checking out the movies still they're really cool and add some interesting changes for a lot of the cast
I just finished Reload yesterday and the ending hit me like a truck even though I almost expected it to be that way. This video was somehow balm for my soul. 🙂 You have my subscription. Greetings from Germany !
Makoto and the s.e.e.s.'s meeting before the battle with the emperor arcana made makoto realize that there are things important to him that he wants to protect
Just found this video but when I was in High School it was my first time playing Persona 3 years ago and I have already knew and played 4 at this point and despite how much I loved that game I just thought it was good and naturally lead to me playing Persona 3 but before I ended up playing it my outlook on life was getting very nihilistic on how it felt like I could not change anything and just also a growing hatred of people I had back then. Well the themes of Persona 3 it was honestly the right place right time for me for everything about it just stuck with me and I personally feel that it ended up saving my life just showing how scary death is and while I still do get depressive episodes every now and then this game always reminds me that life is beautiful and you are a valued person and people do care about you leading to this game being one of my two favorite pieces of media ever made I can not pick between it and Umineko due to how much those two helped me on different points in my life.
Thank you for sharing this comment! I'm really glad this game was able to give you a new perspective on death and life. I know it can be really tough to get out of that kind of nihilistic mindset since it is something I have struggled with myself, so the fact P3 was able to help you in that regard is amazing. Like you said, always remember that your life does have value and people do care about you, and I'm sure everything will work out. I wish you the best going forward!
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This video was made in celebration of Persona 3 Reload dropping this week, and I’m super excited for the game! I thought this would be a fun idea to go over everything we know about the protagonist so far through a couple of the adaptations, and we can compare it to reload if they decide to make some big changes!
I hope you enjoy!
The Scene of him becoming the seal with his finger up when Paired With Our Moment the OP Of P3D makes me think he can come back whenever he chooses
sorry it really irked me in the video but persephone is pronounced per-seff-uh-nee
@@olly_lmaothank you for the correction that's my bad
wtf a Makoto?
all they ever call him
is him or he lol
I love how Makoto’s dialogue choices slowly become more emotional and empathetic as the year goes by. He starts as very apathetic but he gets more expressive in the dialogue. Meeting SEES and all his friends, he finally got to live again after being on autopilot annd forced to live with Death itself after his family died. By the end of the journey he’s absolutely unshakable and saves humanity both its highs and lows.
I totally agree! His overall demeanor changes, and despite being a silent protagonist in the games, the growth is clear through the dialogue options like you said. It's really well thought out.
That's probably what I loved most about this portag compared to others you can see his character development in his dialogue options
One thing I’m a slightly disappointed in Reload is that his dialogue options are actually very upbeat and I don’t think they fit his character very well. Some options make sense but others seem very OOC
This is also what I liked from the original game. It totally changed my perspectives around psychology. Most of Makoto's dialogue choices is predictively wouldn't have any effect on the outcome of the conversation. But the choices represents his wild inner monologue. I began to realize and quickly relate with him because as a person, we all have those wild intrusive thoughts at the back of our mind, but we ended up not voicing it due to some circumstances. It's a completely different usage of game's dialogue choices.
Rather than give you actual options, it lets you immerse yourself as "Makoto", in the sense that you don't actually have a choice, but you can choose your perspectives upon the world.
Yes, especially on Shinji's funeral, damn probably most people choose "Shut up" to respond to those upperclassmate
Honestly what made me tear up was he found what he wanted and now wants to live only to sacrifice it to keep what gave him his life back
Yeah that's the aspect of it that makes it so tragic
I feel like the ending has an optimistic vibe to it though.
Even though he found his answer and chose to give up his own life as a result, I don't think he regretted the choice he made
@@mcam27 yea he was smiling in the end that's what makes the ending bittersweet
This is why he’s the best of persona protags and just a great character in general. P3 just hits different with it themes and the narrative itself.
My favorite thing about makoto, he encouraged everyone to live to their full potential. He had such an influence on people that they ended up doing just that. Like a true Messiah he changed everything for the better, even when people don’t see it. Not only being the strongest protagonist as well for unlocking the power of the universe, but with undying will and determination he made the impossible possible. Stood up to all mankind and made the ultimate sacrifice for everyone to have a chance to live happily.
Very well said. He pushed and encouraged everyone to live fulfilling lives to an extent they wouldn’t have ever imagined, and sacrificed himself to do so in the end. It’s beautiful to see.
Even in more powerful and awesome once you think that Makoto/Minato’s a powerful Persona User than Tatsuya. Who fought gods who had control over the collective unconscious.
@@smellyuncle comparing both is a bit unfair considering p2 had philemon overseeing stuff
@@HenriqueRJchiki That’s fine.
if you think about it Ryoji is literally is Makoto's Shadow as the characteristic of shadow is the repressed emotion of the person and in case of Makoto his repressed side is his energetic and fun loving person in the past when his parent is still alive and the fact that Ryoji face is identical to Makoto
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beside that remember that Metis is Aigis shadow and how different it was from Aigis and not having the golden(yellow) eyes that typical shadow(selves) when they are manifest
That’s a really interesting perspective I’ve actually never thought about it that way before.
another thing that helps this idea is that Makoto and Ryoji's designs are opposite yet similar to eachothers
Considering Ryoji tries to hit on every girl he comes across since he materialized, it checks out. Either that or during his time as Pharos, Makoto was a horrible influence when it comes to romance.
@@Door3234 yesss!! i think the most blatant part design-wise is Hair Completely Covering The Face vs Face (forehead) Completely Exposed
Pharos appeared as a young boy because that was the age Makoto was traumatized by the events on the Moonlight Bridge where his parents died and Aigis sealed Death inside of him. So you could say Pharos's growth and bond reflects how Makoto is changing over the course of the story.
This game and Makoto as a whole honestly managed to save my life not once but twice. As a kid I played persona 3 fes on ps3 during a very hard time when I lost my grandfather, I had been assaulted, and my depression was at an all time high, I couldn’t figure out what to live for, I was constantly sleeping, I was barely eating, this game gave me hope that I could find friends like the characters in the game to give me a reason to live. I did I made friends I pulled myself back from the brink and I lived for my friends and loved ones. Then 10 years later after I had my heart broken in a failed engagement, lost contact with my friends, lost my job, and was staring the abyss down again, the game got remade and showed me that same hope all over again.
That's honestly amazing thank you for sharing this comment. I'm sorry you've been in these bad spots, but just remember things will definitely get better. I'm wishing the best for you going forward!
I know what you mean, it was similar for me too. Persona 3 saved my life a couple times, too.
Different reasons but man, this game just makes you try your best, or at least "try again" in life. And that's why it will always have a special place in my heart
A comment I heard about Orpheus’ design (specifically the robotic body) is because in one of the legends, he was actually killed by a group of Maenads who tore his body apart leaving only his head. If we look at Persona Orpheus we can see its all mechanical save for the more human looking head.
27:53 And here its not just *nearly* impossible: it IS impossible…
…and thats what made their miracle all the more special.
Regardless of which way his death is interpreted or portrayed, at least with my current knowledge, he gets torn apart regardless. In some by the Maenads, and some in other ways. I really like that the Persona 3 design is robotic for that reason I really honestly should have mentioned that in the video. His chest even has a speaker, which is where his voice comes from in the awakening speech.
Also yeah beating Nyx was genuinely impossible, and without Makoto's insane resolve through the bonds of S.E.E.S and the other social links, their stories would've ended then and there. It's beautiful
@@YandereGogetaYou know what else I just remembered? He stayed alive for so long before he finally passed away. Through pure will and spirit he, now a literal walking deadman, stayed alive and an active member of society all the way until his final meeting with SEES at the rooftop.
That and something i noticed about the Answer: He’s not the seal of nyx but the protector of life. He’s actively preventing people, ourselves, from bringing about the fall.
Makoto Yuki is “Him”.
@@Karmadillo-qh3jv Makoto probably has the highest amount of will power of anyone in the series for sure. I don’t think anyone else could’ve matched sacrificing your soul, and then living for a couple months after that.
Regarding the answer, you’re totally right he made the seal not so much to defeat NYX, but to hide it from the will of the masses. It’s a good call back to what Takaya says in the game near the end where he’s like “the people wish for the fall to come.” That’s just a paraphrase but you get the idea haha
Bruh I freaking love Makoto and he's my favorite Persona protagonist so with that said I constantly think about his character but you just made me realize things I haven't even considered about him before, thanks!
You’re welcome! I’m glad I could help you to realize some things about your favorite persona protagonist!
Your point on Thanatos ripping apart Orpheus could also be looked as how Death ripped apart Makoto's life. The death of his parents destroyed him, and its shown in how the figure of Orpheus, who looks like Yuki, was consumed and eventually destroyed
Yeah for sure that’s a big part in what’s being portrayed in that moment.
Personally I think it was just to foreshadow death being inside of makoto since Thanatos is the persons death reveals himself as
It could also be quite literall, with Thanatos subcobtiously needing to escape Makoto body and is able to do so for just a brief moment before burning out himself as well.
In P4 Margaret comments that Elizabeth left her position as Igor assistant to search for a way to free Makoto from the seal, so his story may not be over yet.
It’s certainly possible Liz could fulfill her mission. It would be one of the most difficult journeys yet but it’s definitely not impossible
But would it really be freeing HIM, or just like... His soul or something? Considering his physical body is pretty much dead
@@chiffoncakeandteaThat is up to debate but we saw the collective unconcious birth a god and we know Igor although very powerful also serves Philemon. We also know that Makoto is a Messiah in the persona universe and have a lot of parallels with jesus isn't it farfetch to wonder if he will return on the "third day" too like persona 6.
@@LuizOtavioZen i doubt it. Remember that “messiah”, while using some Jesus symbolism, never establishes itself as “Jesus”. Messiah is a UNIVERSAL figure. This isn’t like Ren who has Satanael, explicitly a Christian demon or Yu who uses a Japanese one. The themes of the game are less Christianity in focus and more Greek tragedy.
Makoto does “return” to fulfill his promise in March before leaving again. He’s already returned and it’s doubtful he’ll return a 2nd time.
It’s also kinda funny ppl keep saying this about the mc when the game itself makes a comment about Christian propaganda obscuring truth. The truth is that he’s dead, and the Christian concepts are what ppl use to say he could return. If anything, his soul can be freed but with what the Answer establishes, it feels pointless and destroys the meaning of the epilogue. I know ppl don’t like the message cus they want purely happy endings, but a story about how ppl regress and the continuous fight to stay hopeful is a good one.1
@@BelBelle468You raise good points but i disagree when you say that it could not happen because the theme of the game is more a greek tragedy than a christian fable. There are plenty of greek mythological figures that came back from the realm of the dead and there are a lot of parallel between Makoto and Jesus, hell he was even crucified at one point in the story and the seal resembles that. Elizabeth looking for a way to save him means it is not impossible otherwise Igor and Philemon would've prevent her from doing it.
If his soul can be freed it means he could come back, we've seen weider things in the personaverse. How he would return is debatable, because like you said having him back like nothing happened would be against the epilogue. But seeing him return as a new guide like Igor would've make his story come full circle and we seen Igor been replaced once already.
But that is just my theory. And everyone is free to disagree.
I've been searching for Makoto's character analysis since the release of P3 Reload, and I found one. Finally.
Your essay here is telling that you understand Makoto's character. Good job.
So yeah, let me say this that I freaking love Makoto. He's my fav persona protagonist. I could say his character development is one of the best. It's beautiful really. From a boy who doesn't care about anything, to a boy who do care about everything. It's always touched me ngl.
Your essay here even helped me voicing about what I feel about Makoto, especially his charm.
FYI, in my eyes, Makoto has this "charm" that made him different from Yu and Ren. Sure Yu and Ren are charming too as protagonist, but Makoto just feel different. Like, Makoto has this natural charm that made you know that you can count on him. It's hard to put it into a words, but it was like everything will be okay as long as he's there (something like that). Definitely a charming leader, and your words helped me realize that it was his connection to Orpheus lore that made Makoto feels so different.
Dude really is a badass. Although his character design can be considered cute for me, he held so much resolve and power. It's like a reminder don't judge the book by it's cover lol.
Again, good job. I'm enjoying this character analysis. Thank you for the video! 👌
Thank you so much for the kind words! I’m glad this video was what you were looking for! I do understand what you mean by him having a different charm than Narukami or Ren. They all have fairly similar impacts and what not and are the backbone of their respective teams, but Makoto is a bit different just because of the nature of his character. He’s a lot more low key and reserved than Ren or Narukami, so I think that plays a big part of it in my opinion.
@@YandereGogeta IKR, Makoto just feels so matured if we compared him to Narukami and Ren. He's not your typical high schooler. Too reserved, but that's what I like about his character.
I do really hope we can see Makoto more, but lore wise, we can't have him since he's dead 😭
You and me both
Love your video, truly made me realize how deep Makoto's personality is, and how the Aigis quote "You don't have to save the world to find your answer to life" makes more sense and shows us how they grow up mentally. Really makes you think after the ending that you should be enjoying your journey in this life. I hope you could make a video about "The answer" I think it has the material to complement how to endure the duel to a loss.
I'll definitely be making a video about The Answer at some point! Aigis' quote really does hit hard and it encapsulates the whole point of the game for me. Thank you for the support!
6:19 honestly to me I've always read the heavy breathing as him having flashbacks to his parents, and being so stressed and overwhelmed that he was contemplating ending his own life right then and there, thinking the invoker was a real gun, but after Pharos appeared he realized what it would actually do and then tried to summon his persona
That's a different take on that moment I've never seen someone interpret it that way before. A lot more grim if that were the case haha
Makes so much sense.
this is why i adore the movies, its not perfect, but it add so many layers to so many characters and make them so interesting
Totally agreed!
I feel like this game did change my life, i remember my early life i clearly had no goal, having cringe ahh divorced parents that also had drug problems broke my early childhood and filled me with a deep depression that also ruined many of my relationships over the years. To this day i still remember how hard i cried as makoto closed his eyes at the end, the words aigis said "sometimes we just need to care for someone, and thats enough" (I'm paraphrasing here i know but she said something akin to that) resonated so much within my soul i broke down for hours, all I've ever wanted was to be loved by someone else for all my life. I remember the secon life "goal" I'd set myself was to live a normal life with a family and a nice paying job. Those might seem like mediocre things but to me they were impossible to even begin to comprehend, once i hit 21ish (still very depressed) i felt this stinging paing in my chest and this insane will to live/fear of death I'll never forget, i felt like the world was closing in on me, that i had nothing and no one and it kinda switched something in me, it truly made me want to live, that's the beginning of how i stopped being fully depressed. My goal in life is no longer to be loved or be wanted or to bear children or to try and beat my parents at their own game, i just want to be nice, be kind to the people i love such as my family and my friends, i want them to be happy and i want to believe that if one day I'm gone, they'll be glad they met me, not because of my achievements but because of our memories together. I'm not perfect i still have a ways to go, i still sometimes desire love, sometimes i project this desire unto others by telling them stuff like "hey, if you ever feel alone I'm always here to help, i care for you" but in reality I'm telling that to myself, I'm projecting my need of being cared unto others and it's sad, even for me, befause im hiding it behind being nice, but the first part to changing anything is to recognize it. i just played reload and it made me cry too, makotos life was beautiful, filled with great memories, with friends aplenty and they for sure will remember him forever, i want that, i don't want to be loved for the sake of being loved, i want to learn to love myself to love others and to be remembered fondly, like him someday.
Thank you if you read all of this, just randomly venting here at 3 am haha, have a nice day/night and hope you have a nice fulfilling life :)
I did read all of it, and I really appreciate you leaving this comment. I may not know you personally, but just from your comment, I’m really proud of you and how far you’ve come. I’m sure everything will come to fruition for you, just keep on pushing my friend. I’m glad this game was able to resonate so deeply for you, and I’m wishing the best for you going forward.
very wholesome
The arcana of his personal personas are quite interesting. Orpheus is the Fool, Thanatos is Death, The Messiah is Judgement. As a begginer Tarot reader this would be what I could interpret them as. He is a curious individual who is open to trying out most things yet lacking a strong conviction or direction, a lot of changes will happen to him on his journey and some could be quick and abrupt which can leave lasting impressions on them, should he be open to these changes and learn from them then it could lead him to experience a change in their outlook giving them the strength of their newfound conviction to face what the world will will throw at them.
That sounds like a pretty accurate description of him and his journey.
Something I never see mentioned about Makoto is also how *early* he seems to be set up as Saviour. His first Fusion Spell is Cadenza, which is in part born of Orpheus. It's effect is healing damage and increasing evasion/hit rate. In other words, it heals what damage had been done in the past and increases the parties chances of avoiding similar misfortune in the future.
It already sets him up at the start to not only heal/move on from his own trauma, but those around him as well.
And this follows up later in the Fusion of Messiah with (what I personally at least would describe as its "unique" skill) Salvation, fully restoring the parties HP and recovering ailments. I'd like to think its not just game balance that stops this spell from straight up raising people but also the fact that the entire story of P3 is reconciling with the past, healing and moving on, even if you've suffered loss and misery along the way.
God this game speaks to me so much on a personal level
Persona 3 is one of the most beautiful stories I’ve ever experienced in a video game it brings me tears every time
I agree for sure. Persona 3 has hit notes that no other game has for me and I really appreciate it a lot for that.
Honestly Makoto paved the way to protagonists that would follow.
If p5 got me into Persona it was P3 that made me appreciate life more.
For sure without Makoto it’s hard to tell where the rest of the games may have gone
@@YandereGogeta I also appreciate in a way, less puzzily stuff you had to do in P3 compared to P5 even.
@@Kiefster what do you mean by the puzzle stuff exactly?
@@YandereGogeta Well like Okumura's palace, Futaba's palace, and maruki's palace had puzzle elements in them. basically, I mean that I like that it's more straightforward.
@@Kiefster ah I see
Goated as fuck video Yan, kind of changed my outlook on not just Makoto as a protagonist but even Persona 3’s story telling itself, this story is incredible
Thank you Luke that means a lot! I tried to really emphasize the smaller (and bigger) details of the story in a way that would make it fun and educational. I think it turned out really well!
That one scean were you sync up the music wIth Makoto finally fighting because he wants to hot me right in the heart! Amazing!
I had so much fun making that scene! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The reason why Makoto Yuki is my favorite protagonist is because of how much I resonated with his story. I felt for him so much when he closed himself to others in fear of losing people he loved and learning to overcome it. This game actually changed my life and helped me through a very difficult time of my life, helped me understand why I needed to keep living and what I need to live for. While I still struggle, I often look back to the lessons of Makoto's and P3's overall story to remind me of the what's important. The movie did a really great job expanding on his character because I feel like its not as apparent in the game about his struggle with his emotions and the death of his parents, and so when I played Reload I tried role playing a bit with the extra characterization from the movie. It's actually a wonderful thing that a game can affect people's lives so strongly. Thank you for making this analysis it opened my eyes to some things I missed about his character story and design.
Thank you for sharing this comment! I'm glad you enjoyed this video. It's quite amazing how many lives this game has managed to change, and I wonder if Reload will do it for a new generation of players just like it did for the players of the original games all the way back then.
This game literally changed the way I perceive life, that final speech from Aigis simply destroyed me inside, every time I think about it I simply get anguish in my heart, Makoto being a character who didn't see meaning in his life and we seeing this changing during the entire work, so that in the end, his promises, his ambitions, his youth, his entire life are lost, but for the good of humanity, and for the good of his friends, it is a beautiful thing to see
Well said! You summarized Makoto well! I gotta agree with what you said about the final speech too no matter what way I see it, it hurts haha
I am so glad that I was recommended this video. Not only have I come across a great RUclipsr but I'm also able to understand how to get out of dark places like Makoto has!!
Thank you for the kind words!
I don’t see a lot of people pointing this out but isn’t ryoji while being thantanos he’s in the form of Orpheus. He’s always associated with music and the music room, he’s extremely charming and flirty. When ryoji says makoto has become a part of him while also looking like makoto he is the form of makotos personality before makoto was sealed with death(both by literally being sealed and by witnessing the death of his parents). I believe ryoji(pre memory regain) is the man makoto would have been if not for death. So it’s quite ironic that death the reason he couldn’t become ryoji takes the form of ryoji. But just like Orpheus has become part of death, death has become part of Orpheus and with both those elements you get the messiah, you get Makoto Yuki.
You could definitely see it that way but it’s more so that Ryoji took after Makoto himself after being carried by him for all those years. Another commenter said it well where he’s kind of like Makoto’s shadow in a sense, just more upbeat than Makoto himself.
@@YandereGogeta yeah exactly that’s why he takes after makotos true self Orpheus, no?
I suppose so, yeah!
i can even began to describe the way i cried at the end not 1 not 2 but every single time i have finished either a game or the movies, even now to this day with reload.. i cant help but cry eveeytime i see the end or at least shed a tear at memories of you.
Makoto has always been my favorite character, despite being a silent protagonist just look at his character develop its just... so sublime, majestic, beautiful. I love him so much, This game changed my life, he and p3 taught me 'how to live' no i wasnt aphatethic like makoto but i never felt 'alive' either, i was 14 when i first played P3FES i didnt felt 'alive' in the sense of feeling worthless like i wasnt doing anything good, i looked at my friends all with talents and skills.. but me? I only had my hobbies such as listening to music and videogames my friends also got better grades and i just felt really really inferior, worthless and well even now at 18 i dont really have what you would call a great talent except maybe that i speak 2 languages and im currently learning 2 more, im happy to say that it makes proud.
But to me back then when i was still learning english it felt like it was the only good thing i had, the only worth, my only value. I feared failure and my parents disappointment while not being told to get the best grades they always wanted me to do great so i always found myself comparing myself to everyone else, crying because of a single bad grade and just feeling so anxious seeing my friends do better in most things if not all with little to no apparent effort
I related to makoto a lot because i simply did what i was asked to do, head on no hesitation you could say i was a good kidand well thats was about it back then, but did really cared about grades? Was it really important to me? Was that what i wanted to do? Couldnt i just be happy trying my best with no pressure? I never wanted to be the best at school just be myself, but now while i may not be the most interesting or skilled person im can confidently say.. that im happy with myself :) persona 3 and in fact the whole persona franchise played a great role in that and ill always be grateful for that.
But the thing that P3 and Makoto helped me with the most was just what p3 knows to teach accepting life and accepting death, a couple of years before getting to know persona and p3 i lost a really close family member an uncle that i was really close to, and i struggled with accepting that he was gone i couldnt hear his name without wanting to cry, so after learning about makotos past i once again related to him aswell as the other characters, yukari, ken, koromaru, mitsuru, akihiko.. i knew that feeling but watching as makoto and the others stuck together and kept moving forward brought me a warm feeling perhaps calmness or happiness by the end.. makotos end of the journey brought back that feeling of lost, i cried a lot that first time (still cried every other time i finished the game again, watched the movies, listened to memories of you, or recently when finished reload) but just like SEES i had to keep living, im still alive... as the game itself would say memento mori... remember that you will die, i have to life my life to the fullest, enjoy every little joy that a new day brings, in the end the same awaits to all of us but thats why share with your loved ones and live even if it can be hard sometimes its important, to live knowing that just existing is reason enough to live, you dont need to change the world or be a great goal to have a reason to live, something as simple as enjoying your hobbies, learn something new, do what you like to do, looking forward to something no matter how bif or small, spend time with your loved ones.. is more than enough reason to live
Thats also why akinaris social link (best social link ever it hits hard though) is my favorite of all the franchise, just existing is enough reason to live and to do what you like :")
Last but not least THE MUSIC i love it so much my fsvorite ost right there with sonic, while playing reload the first time i got to hear color your night for the first time i felt full of love, like as if atlus made the song with tha purpose of making you feel welcome: a willingness to face challenges and keep moving forward no matter what obstacles may arise, the impact one person can have on another's life, bringing joy and colors to ones life, expressing gratitude for the support and strength..
I really like to think that color your night has a lot to do with makoto maybe even a little more than burn my dread
Another wander in the night
Let me paint the view
Colour the town with my light
For every moment shared with you
I like to think that the chorus here its talking about how makoto enjoys spent time with everyone and the other way around
Not out in the day
But never fully gone
Going to be back again
Until the coming of a dawn
While this one talks to the fans, even if we know how things will end, that doesnt stop us from being able to enjoy the journey once more and go to the very end with makoto and SEES, even with the end they will still be there for us everytime we want to take the journey, while the the rest of the chorus will be talking about how sees will stay together no matter what.. thats what i think anyway 😅
Lastly id like to say that the first time i finished the game or rather the game finished with me (😭) i felt like i grew up with makoto for the better and P3 will always be an important game for me :)
IM SO SORRY FOR TALKING SO MUCH 😔🤐
No need to say sorry I really appreciate you leaving this lengthy comment! That's why I said I would respond to all of the comments near the end of the video! I of course can't respond to the entire comment, but I will say that I read all of it, and I'm really happy to hear about how far you've come. Hearing all of the stories of people such as yourself on how this game helped to change your life is magical to me, and the fact my video was able to bring forth such thought provoking discussions such as this one makes me proud.
You could say that this video, and the videos I've done since, are a reason I like to live. Just waking up and seeing comments like this, talking about things I like, and getting to see my passions shine makes me happy. I only say this to add onto what you said about the small (or big) things in life making it all worth it.
To wrap up this comment all I wanna say is that I might not know you personally, but just from your comment, you seem like a kind soul, and I'm proud of how far you've come. I'm wishing you the best in the future, and always remember to keep your head up!
I absolutely love Makoto as a protagonist and as a person.
His change throughout the game is one of the biggest character developments in the persona series, and one you don't even really recognize at first if you aren't looking closely.
He goes from seeing life as useless and worthless, only living because he's not dead, to valueing life so much.
Literally seeing death as nothing to be scared of at first because he has nothing valueable in life, to seeing death as nothing to be scared of in the end BECAUSE he has found so many valueable things in life, like all the friends, bonds and memories he's made that are worth it to protect and fight for them at any cost.
You summed it all up really well! His character arc is beautiful and I think it's a story that has made me more emotional than almost any other game I have played
Makoto went from a boy I no longer have a reason for living what’s the point to I found a reason to not fear death I have friends people I care for to protect
Also the persona series taught me don’t be afraid of your own fear and how you chose your way of life just be yourself and find happiness also keep those you love around you and don’t take them from granted like how you are their light through darkness your friends are your power that slash through the darkness
That’s great that the series was able to teach you those kinds of things! Persona has a lot of positive messages, and it’s nice to see it impacted you in such a way.
An interesting fact about Makoto is that, if you fuse both "Makoto Yuki" and "Minato Arisato" as you would personas or second and third awakenings, his name would be "Mikoto Ariyuki", which roughly translates to "Lord/Highness Of Existence/Happiness/The Deliberate/Unselfish/Servanthood", alotted to be "green", "four", "King Of Life Over Death".
And if you fuse "Sakuya" and "Kotone" into "Sakone Shiomi", which would more or less translate to "Wisdom/Intelligence/Humanity/Sound Of The Sea Waves".
*(I'll be calling the protagonist Mikoto Ariyuki, just like I do in all my playthroughs)
If you recall Persona 3's ending, right before Mikoto Ariyuki unleashes The Seal over Nyx, he was given The Universe Arcana, and if you know anything about the Collective Unconscious and the lore behind Persona after what happened in Persona 2, you know that reality was remade in such a way that humanity would survive as long as certain people never met nor remembered what happened about the loss of humanity, all within a new universe.
Also, Ryoji, as Nyx's Avatar, is treated as Death being given humanity, sort of like a being "coming down" from many dimensions and compressed into a single being to be able to communicate with other humans after being freed from matter.
Well, what if that's exactly the case with Mikoto Ariyuki?
Both Mikoto and Ryoji are the lore all over again: Before being Ryoji, Death existed before Mikoto was born, the same way the maternal mother or alien entity known as Nyx existed before The Earth was as it is, and only after Death came to dwell inside Mikoto did a metamorphosis occur, and the one who put it inside Mikoto was an Aeon; Aegis.
Going by the same logic of "I am thou, thou art I", it means as much as: Death was introduced to the Universe, and hit the Earth, which forced it to adapt via a dimension known as the Collective Unconcious.
This happened in the form of celestial bodies colliding, and then, it happened in the form of people.
Ergo, Ryoji is Death, and Mikoto is The Universe being born human, through which the Collective Unconscious lives.
Mikoto isn't just a man living inside the Collective Unconscious, he IS the Collective Unconscious given human form and also the king over existence as a whole who bestows the same power, through the sea of souls, to allow for the birth of other souls that come after him.
He IS the Universe and the sea of souls in human form, battling Death to prevent Death from overcoming all lifeforms, and the one to bring happiness in a world desolate with depression. To put it simply, if Philemon is the Master of the Collective Unconscious, Mikoto is what devides Death from the Universe, and also the Universe, and he willingly signed a contract, long before he was born, as a soul, just as Yu and Akiren did, hence, why there's a contract each time before birth and rebirth, and the contract in Mikoto's dorm, is basically a reconfirmation of what the player does, since he was born already having sealed his fate, which is why he is always predestined to reincarnate, each time, forever, in order to preserve the continual existence of all things within the Universe.
In many ways, Mikoto would be The Universe born as a result of the failure to save humanity in the previous reality in Persona 2, he would also be The Universe given human form, also The King And Servant Of The Collective Unconscious, as well as The Universe not dying, but simply returning to its original, formless state after The Universe passes away in human form, ultimately "ascending", while Death was given life through it so that, from a formless entity, he became a human lifeform.
The theme playing in the final battle, or "The Hymn Of The Sea Of Souls", while fighting Nyx's avatar, is The Universe Fighting Death, and I don't mean it because of the tarot cards: I mean it quite literally. The tarots are a representation of who Death and the Universe are, so by logic, Ryoji is literally Death, and Mikoto is The Universe in human form, realizing that he is not just merely a lifeform, and, transcending, he straight-up levitates and enters the moon to defeat Death through the medium he created known as the Collective Unconscious.
Essentially, it means that Mikoto is the ruler and simultanously the servant of the collective unconscious, because, before he initiated the cycles of rebirth, he designed everything in such a way that he would die and transform Death into Life so that, by giving his life, another might live, and this happens over and over and over again without end, matrix-style.
Basically, The Universe is conscious and is a man, both King and Servant of the Collective Unconscious he created, together with his velvet servants and Philemon, who are at the core of the Collective Unconscious.
So, whenever you hear the Hymn Of The Soul during the final battles, remember that the Sea Of Souls is rooting for their Master, and also the Master over Death and Tartarus above Ryoji, Death and Nyx, and also the Father of all lifeforms of this sub-franchise called Persona.
To put it another way, you could say that Mikoto is somewhere above Philemon the same way as, say, Joshua and co. from The World Ends With You are from a being superior to them, in terms of authority and dominion over various places and dimensions.
Mikoto handicaps himself by becoming human, and so, he can die, but only in the sense of merely being "freed" from a material vessel, since he still continues to exist.
Analyzing his character, he's basically also the father of hypnos, father of dreams. Remember that "gods" in greek and roman perception are just concepts and phenomenon of nature and universal existences, not actual people, so it means as much as "father of hypnos", or "father of dreams", which is represented as a butterfly, and also the father of souls beyond a physical reality.
So, in conclusion, you could say that Mikoto is the ethereal realm that serves as a medium for countless Persona universes to exist, so he's the father of entire humanities and nations, which, in "the world beyond matter", "the world of wills, thoughts and emotions", he is regarded in highest esteem by angelic and human souls, to the point where devils fear him.
Well, I don't know how accurate that may be, since it's only my thoughts on what his existence implies, but considering the heavy implications of messianic proportions, well, I don't think it's too farfetched to say he's not just anybody even beyond physical life.
Always remember that when The Aeon had him in her laps, it was The Universe all along, and it was also The Aeon that introduced Death into The Universe, learning the value of life, both in astrological and human form.
Love this. Feelings like I read a paper on the protagonist
There's no way I can respond to all of this, but I will say that this is a really in depth comment and you definitely thought this through very well. It's interesting that the name combined can result in a fairly different meaning that still represents him well. Almost makes you wonder if it was on purpose, but most likely it was a coincidence.
This comment was a really interesting read though thank you for sharing it!
@@YandereGogeta Sure thing! Honestly, I think it's one of those things you only get to find out if you really get into it deeply. I "accidentally" found out about this because I couldn't decide what name to go with on my playthroughs, so I simply mixed the names and, out of curiosity, searched for the meaning after the names being "fused" together, and that's more or less how I went about discovering this. After that, all I really did was piece two and two together and ended up making some more discoveries.
I really like how Makoto went from being an absolute isolationist to becoming a social person, that really shows that because he joined S.E.E.S he gained a new aspect to his live and it is really inspirational how he was willing to give up everything to prevent the death of his friends. In the Beginning he is death and at the end he is life. That's at least how I see it
That's a good summary of him as a character for sure
I believe something that would be cool is to have Makoto confront Aigis about the death of his parents. I think it would be neat is if he initially blamed Aigis for what happened to his parents once he found out what happened on the bridge, being the most emotionally he’s ever been at this point. And reflecting the people both Makoto and Aigis used to be, while Aigis used to be a stoic machine who rushed into battle with no regard for others, Makoto used to be a stoic man who rushed into battle with no regard for himself, and he could acknowledge that not only Aigis has grown passed that, but he has as well.
But I understand why they didn’t do that and I do like what they went for
That could have been a really cool premise and it would have been a big moment of growth and vulnerability for both of them to grow out of together, which would have then made the impact of The Answer hit even harder. Like you said though it's understandable why they didn't take that path since Makoto just isn't that kind of person he's way too understanding and kind
It frustrates me to see a lot of people say that the P3MC is just cardboard. He clearly has a personality that's outlined by his choices. He can choose to be kind, enabling, or outright apathetic and mean. That is how it is for all the Persona MCs so the claim they're blank slates is categorially false. It's more like you as a player are making the choice of whether they choose to be kinder or give into intrusive thoughts.
And that's especially true of P3 where some of his dialog choices are outright heartless like him telling Maiko it's her fault for her parents getting divorced.
Also, there's how he affects the other characters. Elizabeth leaves the Velvet Room and is still the first and only attendant to do so. On top of that she inherits Thanatos. Then you have Aigis who is a robot who is so profoundly changed by the MC that her arcana changes to the Fool arcana and she inherits the power of the Wild Card. And to this day she is the only character to have done that.
Well said! Couldn’t have really put it better myself
34:47 Persona 3 vanilla was the first Persona Game I played and Since then I have played everything that cam afterwards(outside of some Japanese Exclusive stuff)
as for Makoto Yuki, I just want him to Come back so That we can see him as a character in more stuff(I would've loved it if he became a fighter in P4U)
Makoto in Arena would've been really cool.
I don't really want to make a big comment or anything like that, but i've just finished reload, being my second playthrough and fes my first, i just have to say, this game helped me overcome my anxiety with death and taught a lot of lessons. Today is my favorite game of the franchise and maybe even more. But i digress, this game is really special in every type of thing you can think about, but I don't like the fans that want to take out the merit of the younger brothers of this one, they are great games too,and shoudn't get mad for a new Persona 5 spin off, I do think is time to leave the ip to rest, but this one would have received the same treatment if it where as popular in the time and probably will receive this treatment now with the ramake(people tend to forget P4 and it spin off fase). In the end, is my favorite one and hope to come back one day to play portable, and thanks for the great video
That's dope to hear that Persona 3 managed to teach and help you with your personal issues. This game is really special and tackles important issues in a really superb way, especially Reload now in my opinion. I would definitely recommend giving portable a shot just for the femc route it's really enjoyable! Thank you for your support!!
@@YandereGogeta I will definitely give it a shot
Thanks for a well thought out and beautiful analysis of an amazing character. Persona 3 always will have a very special place in my heart. I lost a parent when I was young, and throughout my entire life have struggled with loneliness, while at the same time pushing away those who care about me. P3 helped me realize that life IS worth living, and having others around you to live it with is important too.
Thank you for sharing your comment! I always love hearing about how this game has impacted people, and your story is great to hear. I’m glad to hear this game was able to help you in a dark time and help you realize life is worth living. Just remember you are loved!
22:14 I just love this moment so much, how it was voice acted and animated. There’s so much struggle in it from him fighting himself and his desperate need to act to actively deflect the attack for the others
For sure that moment is really really good. The tension, emotion, and voice acting in that scene is amazing
Also some people don't like Burn My Dread Reload Version but I love it because of Makoto's POV! I think it makes me see Makoto even clearer, and the fact that he knew everything, but still did it. It was clear as a day. The lyrics were god-tier. I mean I love it just because of its lyrics alone.
Oh I absolutely love the Burn My Dread -Final Battle- Reload version. Lotus Juice went berserk on the lyrics, and the new singer's role grew on me a lot even though it sounds like she's saying Burn my Bread for real haha
@@YandereGogetamfw when my toast stays in there about 60 seconds too long (my mouth feels like it's gonna die)
Dunno if you've played p2 but Makoto (p2 spoilers)
and Tatsuya share somewhat similar fates, Makoto died to save the world from death whereas Tatsuya at the end of Eternal Punishment makes the choice to return to the destroyed timeline of Innocent Sin because if he stays it could cause the 2 universes to try and merge again, he has to leave behind everyone and go to what is effectively a single city floating above a destroyed earth that never rotates, and it's partially his fault.
I feel Makoto is very underappreciated because fans of Kotone are putting everything about her over Makoto
Makoto has rhe original game, FES, Reload, the movies, the manga, to really tell you his character is more than surface level
Kotone really only has the stage play and Q2, donr put her on this same level
And that's why, He's Persona Jesus
The closest thing we’ll ever get to it at the very least
@@YandereGogeta now we just need for his "resurrection" it doesn't have to be that he fully 100% comes back from the dead
But more on he's free from the Great seal and his soul can finally be free
I don’t usually press the like button for non-music videos, but this analysis was just so enjoyable that I had to. Please keep up the good content :D
Thank you so much!
I’m really curious as to femc’s thought processes as she goes through the same story, she had the same background as makoto but I’m unsure if she had the same apathy as him…
It is pretty interesting to think about. I'm not quite sure myself
She's better written imo, her reaction make sense and you don't really feel like you're just controlling a blank emotionless slate.
Here before this video blows up, this was such a good video! You absolutely put moments front and center that went over my head when watching the movies for the first time thanks for that!
Only thing I can think of that wasn't mentioned was how Makoto held out for almost 2 months after sealing Nyx which just says so much about the mans resolve. Dudes a badass. Simply built different. Persona 3 is by no means a perfect game but its underlying themes and message is told almost masterfully.
Persona 3 was the game that got me into the series. I have so much to say about this game but honestly what hasn't been said already? Love this game and its characters and I just seriously can't wait for Reload! Love Lotus Juice and am so fucking happy he's making music for the series again. Truly the game of all time
Here’s hoping the mystical algorithm blesses this video haha. Whether it does or not imma make more analysis videos for the other party members as well since it was a lot of fun! I’m glad to heard I was able to put some things for you to notice that you didn’t before in the video! My goal was to have at least a few things people didn’t know about before, or didn’t catch onto in the video.
I really didn’t think about it too much when I was conceptualizing the video but you are absolutely right that I should have mentioned the fact that despite sacrificing his soul he survived for 2 months afterward solely to keep his promise. That definitely would’ve added to the impact of the narrative I was trying to tell.
I can’t wait for reload either! It’s gonna be a great time for sure. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and kind words!
Call me crazy but i think would like makoto’s story to be continued
His mortal body being dead, and Elizabeth showing that she is still trying to save him, I would like makoto to come back and save either become a velvet room attendant or replace Igor himself letting the old man finally retire from being in the velvet room
He won’t be back as the hero but he can at least help the next and seeing as the next game would be persona 6 I feel it would be fitting for the persona 3 mc to help the mc of the game 3 games after his
Thank you for this beautiful analysis. I just beat Persona 3 for the first time this evening, with Persona 5 being my intro into the series... and well... I must say... Makoto and his journey... it resonated with me so much more than P5. Longing for more... I found myself discovering your channel, and enjoying this lovely character analysis. Exceptionally done, I feel even more in touch with his character and the story now than I did before, getting to see more information so respectfully presented. Thank you & subb'd !
Thank you so much! I’m glad I could fill your itch for more content revolving the game, and I’m really happy to see you have a better understanding of the story with this video! I have more analysis videos planned for the other Persona 3 characters if you’re interested in checking those out when they come.
Something I despise of many jrgs is how the main protagonist always has to sacrifice themselves in the end for the greater good or others.
What about the ones left behind? Those who love him so much or want to be always with him like Aigis :c
I know he is the seal that must not be broken, but man, it hurts after seeing the story.
I do wish they do give him some sort of freedom, I remember that in other games, I think it was P4AU, where Elizabeth is still looking for a way to save him
It is indeed Arena where Liz is on a journey to save his soul. I think eventually the series is going to lead up to freeing his soul, but I have no clue when or how. In The Answer it says his soul can be freed if Erebus is destroyed completely somehow, and Aigis says she’s sure it’ll happen, and then Liz is on her journey as well. If they don’t give that a conclusion after saying that, then I just wonder what the point of saying it in the first place was
Makoto to me, is the best protagonist by far. He has an imense character development, that you can see through his reactions, his expressions and his answers during the game. The whole reason I think P3 vanilla/FEs is better than Portable was literally that by focusing only on his own Journey instead of someone's else with a totally different personality and outlook in life, we could fully see his potential as a protagonist. And the Remake just takes this to the next level.
His expression when he see's the final events for the Sun Arcana, his expressions when he eats a bad food, the game makes sure to expose the fact that he's a glutton, he loves to eat, and bad food just hurts his soul, this little detail is so fucking awesome when you notice with Fuuka's events.
And that's why I kinda hate FemC. As a character, she's a fun extra. A different way of playing the same game. But when I saw the outrage of people because of the lack of her campaign, I felt... Angry and Sad. Because the truth is: The story of Persona 3 only truly works with Makoto, because of the way he works. He starts souless, he can be very apathetic to others, the answers you can give him are mostly meh, he never shows too much, and as the game goes by and he meet his friends and interacts to them, the answers even change his way of expressions with body language. The guys goes from auto-pilot to fully alive, to the point he finds his answer to the meaning of life itself. And as much as I think FemC is a good addition and it's a fun one, I do not thing she's a substitute, and people being angry because there's no FemC feels like they don't understand the story and the writing of Makoto.
It's like someone wanting a Re-writting of Harry Potter, but instead of Harry being a guy, now he's a girl named Hallie. Instead of being a sassy boy who's being bulied his entire childhood and who's stubborn as a mule, he's now a smart, introverted person who knows exactly what to say to not have the worst outcome. By knowing that, she starts doing the right things just to barely avoid her family to snap out at her every time, even if they're still annoying, she's able to grab a letter of her Hogwarts invitation and hide it under her clothes before she delivers the mals to her uncle this way they never find out she gets the letter, but as she reads it she doubts it's content, and so on. With a character that is literally the polar opposite of Harry, quiet but extremely smart she can literally change the entire meaning of the story by not having the character flaws Harry has in the original novels.
Thank you for giving your insight on Makoto and Femc because I haven't had someone really try and explain in depth on why they don't like her without it devolving into some weird argument. Me personally, while I wasn't mad or angry that femc wasn't in reload, I was disappointed. Here's the thing, though, I do actually agree that Femc isn't a very well-written route, but that is exactly why I wanted to see her in reload.
Imagine if they remade her route, and instead of it being a shadow of Makoto's route, they actually took the time to flesh it out and make it into something better. I think that could've been really cool and it also would have alleviated a lot of the issues people seem to have with femc.
The other main reason I would've liked to see her back is because she's not really present in a lot of media. She basically only had Persona 3 Portable and Persona Q2. I think she deserved a little more for being a modern Persona protagonist.
The last main reason I would've liked to see her back is because a lot of people like her, and can relate more to her route since she's the opposite gender of Makoto. I can't really go in detail on this last point because I am a male, but I think having the female protagonist return would have been overall a healthy thing all around. I understand it would take a lot of development, but a DLC or a standalone game (something like InFamous First Light) could have been a good compromise.
Regardless of all of that, though, I'm glad to hear that he's your favorite protag, and that you enjoyed him so much! I don't know if I can say he's my personal favorite, but I can say he's certainly the most interesting and well-written out of the modern Persona protags. Thank you for your comment!
@@YandereGogeta well I do have good news for your though. People found table for characters that are not in the game. That doesn't exist in it at all actually. Two names specifically are listed but never used and both of them are names from social links for FEMC. SO at the very least they considered adding her later on and considering how well p3r sold and how much people are crying for her to be in the game I think she will be added in an expansion. Maybe as a separate re release later on. Her route should be re worked with the same love as Makoto and she needs to be different than him but not feel like she's just an afterthought which is what I feel about her route in p3p. Like she was added in a rush to sell the game. Which is a shame. P3 have some heavy themes and I want them honored. Sadly making her save aragaki takes away all of the development of aki and Ken for me too.
To me I feel that FemC is also kind of soulless, but in a way that is kind of different. She feels friendly, but I feel she also doesn't care too. It's like someone who looks friendly, but also very distant.
But I agree that Shinji shouldn't have been saved. And Chidori too, for me.
@@advmx3 I hope so, because reload feels empty without a proper protagonist.
35:28 Does he though? I like to think he remembers cause like he holds on long to the promised day with his friends., and in the game in the true end when Yukari calls Aigis out when she stares at the trio the game prefers her as her name and while in the bad end the game refers her as just “Girl”. And when Aigis knocks on his room, and she cried Makoto immediately comforted her.
Besides i think it’s pretty sad if he forgets,considering how his health is slowly deteriorating and he doesn’t know why
I really think he does forget because in both the movie and the manga he forgets, and then he and Aigis remember sooner than the others. In the game, it’s kind of vague on whether he forgot or not, but just going off the dialogue options I interpret it as him forgetting as well, until he sees Aigis on March 4th with Junpei and Yukari.
@@YandereGogetaHonestly at the end of the day it’s up to the players interpretation. Makoto is a silent protagonist first and while he has the base foundations of his characters its determined to us on how to interpret him. Manga author and the movie director is how interpreted him. My interpretation for him is that he remembers it all this time
Anyway, great video man. Really opens my eyes and how quite complex Makoto is as a character
@@gee_kazThank you. For the most part all the protags have aspects to them that are up to interpretation, so that's a fair take.
He totally remembers . I also think he knows he’s ganna die from the outset of even using the attack. He keeps it to himself cause he assumes he can’t change it maybe?
This is beautiful and I cried again because the last movie’s ending was just too bittersweet.
It hurts in a great way
Thank you for the video! I'm so glad the algorithm blessed me with this and lead me to your channel. I really really love Makoto and that was in a huge part due to the movies' portrayal of him and his character development (it's also why I call him Makoto even though I knew him as Minato among the fandom first).
I think it's really fascinating how he has an arc across each movie as well as across movies, and how his character development isn't linear. He doesn't just keep getting better as the movies progress, but instead finds something important to him, then starts to fear losing these important friendships, then regresses because of his guilt, then finally finds his resolve to push through. I think you articulated really well how his character develops and the reasons I love him so much. It's also really interesting how his arc makes Strega such a good foil for him (the Chidori example you pointed out, as well as some new content in Reload regarding how Takaya feels about SEES trying to eliminate the Dark Hour).
It's nice to find such a video essay delving into the movies' characterisation since those who probably haven't watched the movies often just think of him as a "blank slate"/"I don't care" character, and I do think this characterisation is somewhat in line with his other depictions in spinoffs such as PQ as well.
Looking forward to more Persona analysis videos!
Thank you for your support! I agree entirely about what you said about the movies. I’m glad I decided to make this video because so many people have thanked me for representing him in a way past that “I don’t care” meme, and that’s really awesome to hear.
You know whats worst when you play the second time through amd henceforth? Every single character you interact with truly appreciate you and put their trust in you for the future. Especially with p3r and the new social events with the bros. Things about being together forever/ helping one another/ hoping to see more of each other all the while you as a player know that it is a fruitless endeavor since the mc will meet his demise at the end of his journey very soon.and i keep crying due to that.
Yeah every time a character talks about the future and what they'll be doing I just know what's to come and it breaks my heart
Great video! I first watched Persona 3's movies but had trouble understanding a deeper meaning of it. I liked the music and some of the visuals. But only after beating the game a few hours ago I realized the struggle of makoto's existence and that he actually died/ became a seel without regrets.
The movies are great on their own, but they're really elevated after playing the game itself. The impact is a lot greater and the story gets super fleshed out
Got into this series because of Persona 5. I played Royal, Strikers, and P4: Golden. These are all great games and made me enjoy the franchise initially. After playing through Persona 3 Reload and now making plans to play the portable version of 3 though, I know that this is going to be one of those franchises that shapes and changes who you are as a person.
Videos like this do a great job in showing me what these games and their stories do and how they impact people so deeply. I’m glad this video appeared in my recommended. Can’t wait to see what you make next buddy.
I can say confidently that Persona changed my life, so you’re definitely not wrong there haha. Portable, while a little rough around the edges, is a lot of fun! Especially with the femc route I’ll always shill for her haha. Thank you for the support!!
This is the only game besides ff15 (the campfire scene and credits sequence man) that actually made me tear up in the last 6 years. Just the soundtrack brings back memories. Persona always hits and makes you think about your own life, but I related to makoto a lot more than any other protagonist
Persona’s soundtrack is just way too iconic and fitting for what they go for. Speaking of FFXV, despite all the flaws that game had, I really enjoyed that one. Had a lot of fun with that cast of characters
@@YandereGogeta that version of stand by me stays in the playlist lol
@@feircyWooooord haha
I was not expecting to love everything about Persona 3 more then Persona 5. I fell in love with all the characters way more than I did with Persona 5. Its hard to put into words hiw amazing P3 is and what it means to me. I will say that I could have used this amazing story when I was going through a rough time some years ago. Yes the game existed back then, but Persona 3 Reload was beautifully made. 10/10. And thank you for your video and deep dive, mate!
Thank you for the support! I’m glad you enjoyed it as much as you did!
Some strong scenes that were in the movie, like Makoto's "Live.." scene or aigis trying to kill ryoji scene, weren't in the reload game (sadly, i haven't played the FES or portable ver.) .. such pivotal lines why cut them out? Or are they in The Answer dlc? I personally felt that P3R had more of a happy theme throughout, whereas the movie and fes version felt much darker.
You gotta make one of these for each MC
I wanna hear your conclusion on Yu Narukami as a whole. Especially after watching that fight against Margaret in the anime
I would love to get to all of the MC's eventually. Narukami is my personal favorite, so I'd love to do him some justice
My first time finishing p3 was with p3p and it left a massive impression on me, but just about this time a year ago the original p3 finally clicked in my head and i got obsessed with it (the tactics finally make sense to me!!!) And after a couple months of playing and taking in the whole world the ending hit me so hard it changed me permanently, i will never think the same way again
That ending is easily one of the hardest hitting and memorable ones in gaming for me. That’s really cool that you beat Portable and went back to the other versions! Did you ever play the femc route or just the male route?
@@YandereGogeta I've only done the male route but I'd love to grab the p3p remaster sometime down the line and play the femc campaign!
@@ethanator611 I definitely recommend it! A lot of people dislike the femc but I love her route it’s really fun!
@@ethanator611you should, feMC isn't just a gender swap, she's a whole character herself with a different personality and different connections to people.
“KOTONE SHIOMI: THE GREMLIN (and the savior)”
The Gremlin is nuts lol
Thank you so much for this character analysis. Persona 3 Reload was the first Persona game I completed. This video explained a lot to me about Makoto as a character. Because he is a silent character in the game, his growth flew over my head aside from the ending. Now I understand him better. Of course, I could always see his kindness and how much he cared for his friends. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Well put together analysis! Makoto has always been a favorite of mine and his characterization and arc as interpreted from the games and depicted in the movies has always resonated with me. I played P3 during a very transitional moment in my life, and the story and themes hit me really hard. Even after a couple of years since then and finishing reload, the ending still gets to me.
Again, great analysis. Makoto is a surprisingly well written character, despite originally being a silent protagonist
Thank you for your comment and support! I played P3 around the middle or end of high school, and when I played it, it really made me consider what I wanted to do with my future, so I can resonate with you.
“I don’t care.” -Makoto Yuki 2009-2010
The most well known dialogue option haha
"Calm Down" Joker
Honestly my favourite thing about Makoto's character has always been his relationship to death. To Pharos. To Ryoji. Because even from the very beginning after his parents' deaths, he never held any ill will towards death at all. He had death forced upon him, from Aigis and from the accident, and instead of raging against it, he accepted it as a part of life and deteriorated into apathy due to his fear of LIFE, not death. He never blamed Aigis and was afraid when Pharos left him. Ryoji was absolutely correct; Makoto is kind down to his very SOUL, choosing to love and forgive even death itself and the person who forced death upon him. Even during their final battle, he never showed any animosity towards Nyx. His journey was about growing to love life again, and he loved life so much that even death itself agreed, fought alongside him and gave him the key to the miracle to save everyone.
I also just love this idea where at the beginning of the story, Makoto was forced to face death, and then by the end, he faces it willingly. Aigis forced death into him at the start, but then Makoto willingly walks into death as a sacrifice at the end. Thanatos forces itself out of Orpheus at the start, but then he and Orpheus willingly fuse together at the end. Pharos was in prison clothes and forced into Makoto's space, and Ryoji forced himself into Makoto's space but was accepted as his friend.
Lots of other people said the same thing, so I’ll keep this short …. Good shi ma boi!!
Appreciate that bro! That means a lot!
P3 is one of my favourite Persona games it really hit me, and i could relate to the MC cause i didn't care if i died but after playing through it i started to care about my life a little bit more
plus there was the sun SL which was so sad he had a poor constitution and didn't have long to live and he just accepted it and thinks that no one will understand him but as you max it out he starts to open up and care and want to finish his story before he dies and when you max it out he disappears
It's just like how the MC was at the beginning as you progress he starts to care and forge bonds with all his SL people say P5 is the best Persona game but you gotta give it to P3 and P3R for the best SL and the story it hits your emotions hard
The Sun social link in Persona 3 for me is the best social link in the series. Ties in with the themes and the characters more than any other link has done. I’m glad to hear this game was able to change your feelings on death, too.
34:47 That Scene Makes Me think he can come back when ever when you pair it with Our Moment OP the OP of P3D
That opening is really good
i am playing persona 3 for the first time via reload and i already knew the premise of the story, but i feel like reload has impacted some of the scenes much more with its insane cutscene direction, and i'm only in july. i feel like since they already felt massively impactful in the games and movies, it can hit you hard in reload and i think that's the glory of it. despite knowing the story of the game, i was only able to stick with persona 3 because of the story and i'm really grateful that atlus made an hd remake for people to experience the game in such a beautiful and fun way
Reload definitely added a lot of great things, and it gives a lot of great moments with the characters. Even if you know everything from the original game or adaptations there’s more to learn about the characters, and that’s what a remake should strive to do. It’s very impressive
makoto is a character that i can relate to in every adaption. it's not an easy feat for me to see so much of myself in a character no matter what. back in my early high school years, I had repressed a lot of my issues- and I had this whole "who cares? I'm not gonna live anyway" kind of attitude. I just stopped caring. but, as time went on and as people became more insistent to be my friend, I began to change into who I am now.
the game had a huge emotional impact on me, and it really made me rethink how I value my connections. I nearly cried watching the ending and after ryoji was revealed to be death itself, something about the characters just feels so real. I played reload in a weird part of my life, where I was about to leave behind a town I've lived in since I was 9 (I'm 17), so everything about the game just felt.. so personal.
overall, the game and makoto are very special to me
This is a fantastic video. Im so glad persona 3 is getting a gorgeous remake! I'd like the answer added eventually, even as paid DLC, but thats another issue. I find Makotos backstory and the mythology surrounding his personas very interesting. I still think Ren from p5 may be my favorite of the 3 modern protagonists (ive never played portable, so idk bout the femc) but man its a tough choice. Makoto is very unique from his apathy to the sadness which results from his journeys completion. Really cool ark overall. I just enjoy the sarcasm you can put into Rens dialogue choices and everything a tiny bit more. However p3's story is hands down the best in my opinion.
Thank you for the kind words! I have faith they will add the answer as DLC. Call it my 6th sense if you will haha. I think Ren is a really good protagonist as well. He seems to get overhated a lot, but I think that's more a Persona 5 thing in general to be honest.
Seriously I love Makoto and some of the relationships he develops over time is just amazing. The analysis did make me realize the reason why I love another character though. Roxas from Kingdom Hearts, it's kind of interesting how many things they have in common. From both starting off as essentially "Blank slates" to fully developed and amazing people, it makes their endings hit so much harder.
Side note - I haven't played the game but I'm curious about the difference and similarities between Makoto and Kotone? Especially since in Kotone version some of tradegies that happen can be prevented. Does that take away from her story or No?
I've been really interested in Kingdom Hearts I've just never had a good chance to delve into that world. I barely got past the first area in the first game and got to Squall in Traverse Town I believe it was, but I never got to continue. I would love to go back now that you've made that comparison!
In my opinion I really don't think certain plot points take away from Kotone's route. Even though a certain person in particular can be saved and some things are a bit different, it doesn't change the overall point and impact in my opinion considering the fate of that said person I mentioned regardless.
I'm glad you think that way with Kotone! Sometime it feels like she gets forgotten, so I guess I'm glad she seems to have a positive light in you mind?
(P.S if you want to know Roxas's story you'll have to play Kingdom Hearts 365/2 Days, it takes place after Kingdom Hearts 1 but before Kingdom Hearts 2. Head's up the game itself feels slow, but that is part of the point, you are essentially "living" these days with Roxas. So if you do decide to play KH, the first game is probably the "simplest" one concept/theme wise, but KH had STORY and LORE. You'll want to read everything, and I do mean everything. Since a lot of that stuff are in notes that you pick up/gain along the way.
........Sorry for the Kingdom Hearts rant.)
@@LoreMiuthos no need to apologize it’s cool to see people be so passionate about the things they love!
@YandereGogeta if you do wanna get into Kingdom Hearts, Gamechamp 3000 has a very clear and easy to understand play order video on her channel that explains when, what and why you should play each game in order
I love makoto bc he is somewhat like me bc I also lost lots off my emotions/diden't understand them yet always helped everyone I could bc I could, and I just like him, try too make friends and find a resolve in live bc I really wanna know what that stuff feels like. Also the neue design is just dope, I love blue so much.
oh and another thing in alot of stories about what happened to Orpheus he was actually killed for preaching same sex relationships because he was so heartbroken after losing his wife again that he started exclusively dating men
Yeah I did see those stories depicting him in that way, the only reason I didn't mention it is because I felt that wasn't too relevant to Makoto's characterization.
@@YandereGogeta idk man him and Ryoji get up to some goofy things ngl/j
If you play as Kotone Ryoji is a romance option, apparently. But I will admit my little shipping heart had fun with this comment. Ryoji x P3 Protag!!
(The other romances are good too!! This pairing is just my favorite)
what i want is for elizabeth to find the FOOLs way to Bring him back /// they hinted at it
Only time will tell if she'll be able to carry out her mission
Reload didn't exactly make it clear that he died at the end of the game.
I didn't realize it when I beat the game and had to look it up.
Everything else in this video was also me hearing it for the first time.
I know the movies or anime adaptations of these games give a voice and a lot more development to the protagonists but like....maybe I wasn't paying attention in P3R but I never knew any of this about Makoto.
Well, mostly his personality stuff.
I suppose I could understand him a bit from his possible responses during the social links but I genuinely thought he was just an edgy emo kid from 2009 and not an apathetic loner who really didn't care if he lived or died.
I can say this game changed my life for sure. I had a really hard point in life and around then is when I found this game, seeing his journey and how he found his answer made me want to live on, I’ll forever hold this game close to my heart
Beating persona 3 fes several years ago literally saved me from myself. I always has struggled with myself as a person, always wanting to commit suicide because of how poor my mental was. i truly had no care for my own life or how me killling myself might affect those who cared for me. But persona 3 fes had truly changed my outlook on life and death itself and for those around me. Thinking back now i was selfish and am happy with my life now. Just finished persona 3 reload and it brought my love for persona 3 back to the front of my life. Stay strong people
I played persona 3 for the first time right after my grandfather passed away, while I was dealing with some other stuff. This game absolutely hit me hard, the message of treasuring life and understanding and accepting death as a natural part of life really helped me when i was feeling down. I think persone 3 made me "make peace with death" in a sense that I don't fear what will happen in the future, because I know i can live the present with who I love.
And as the best social link in P3 says "If you love someone, let them know it.", you never know what will happen in the future, It's never too late to make sure the people around you know how important they are to you.
That's really amazing to hear this game was able to be there for you in a tough situation like that. Some of the social links in Persona 3 hit hard for me, and I gotta agree that line is one of the best there is. Thank you so much for sharing your story
really hope Ellizabethh could find a way to save him....
I believe one day she’ll find a way. Probably not by herself, though.
@@YandereGogeta oh yeah she did said that she'll try to find or come in contact with the people that formed a bond with him.... so maybe all members of SEES could reunite again? who knows
One little correction
Yukari only lost her Father
Her mom is alive but Yukari views Her mother's idea of dating again as Disrespect towards her Father.
The idea also Gets worse when she thinks Her Father caused the 12 Shadows to be released to cause damage
While I love Devil Survivor and Devil Survivors 2 Protagonist. I love Makoto's story more, he went through so much yet in the end he was able to find peace and happiness.
I haven’t played the Devil Survivor games, but they look really good
@@YandereGogeta They're great but when you watch the anime of Devil Survivor 2 you realize quickly that the whole thing took about a span of a week! Not only that but the lore in the first Devil Survivor about the Bel demons was actually quite interesting.
i have this wild speculation about how aigis is not aware of him dying because she's a robot and can't feel makoto's body heat. after all his body has been died long way before the rooftop scene, he's barely hang on with his soul, his body must be cold like a corpse already. i mean from dialogue with some social link, they're pointing out how pale he is
No one in S.E.E.S were aware he was dying there, they only knew he looked really ill, so you are correct. Her not being able to feel his cold skin makes sense as to why she wasn’t as concerned on the rooftop for sure
I lnow its a month late, but i just wanted to say that I ended up playing the FES version on PS2 during a very difficult time in my life. My mom had just passed away and i had recently found out that my biological dad killed himself when i was a few months old. So at that point i kinda had the same viewpoint as Makoto when i started playing. When i beat the Journey, i was balling my eyes out and soon learned to appreciate life as a whole and that dearh is not soming to be truly sad about.
I can't say I know what that felt like, but I'm really happy that this game was able to be there for you in a time like that. I can only really imagine how tough that was for you, but I'm glad things seem to be going better for you. I'm wishing the best for you going forward, my friend. Thank you for sharing this comment.
interestingly, if Erebus is trully erradicated he can stop being the seal, as seamingly impossible as that seems... if not for IS and EP being the one wrench in the cogs
I allways tough interesting how how a few things are, like how Nix returns as the main enemy after P1
but more so, how interesting that P4 and P5 seem extreamly tailored to tackle IS ending, The power to destroy lies and the power to manifest desires, P3 has a bit of it too, but not as direct to P2 but more to P1
I have yet to play Persona 1 and 2 unfortunately so I cannot comment on those plot points too much, but I will say that if they do find a way to defeat Erebus that would be an insane plot point.
@@YandereGogeta when you reach the end of IS youll know what I mean
Educate me if you like but if I recall Erebus can't be destroyed as long as society ask for destruction. At least that is how I see it.
@@human3504 thats correct, thats why I said seamingly impossible
BUT, if what happened in P2 IS gets resolved, Erebus will banish as well, may get reformed later tough, but seeing Nyx also changed after the events of P2 IS compared to her being in P1, there is a chance
still... i watch the ending like many many times... but still crying, idk maybe because makoto the only persona character who can make us feel like him
random thought Attack on Titan had a beach ep
and boy o boy that was sad
This is why i both LOVE and dislike persona 3 its my fav of the franchise by far but the ending had me completely depreso expreso for days
Haha yeah the ending hurts every time
I heard of the nicknames for each mc of personq 3,4 and 5 from a video comment that I can’t remember but it goes like this
Persona5: The Rebel
Persona4: The Truthseeker
Persona3: The Martyr
Martyr is a little far considering Makoto wasn't killed because of his beliefs exactly, but the others are fitting
i really liked this character analysis, I think you made such a good job compiling clips from the movies. Made me really egage with your video!
Are you planing on analysing the other SEES members as well?:)
I will be making analysis videos for every party member of S.E.E.S for sure. Ideally, over time, I’d like to do an analysis of all of the Investigation Team and Phantom Thieves as well!
@@YandereGogetaAwesome! Can't wait to see more of your content!
@@ruiledesma3297 thank you for your support! It means a lot
A great video. My perhaps 1 disagreement is I don't like Mikoto's story picking up when the Shinji stuff is going down. I like the reminder he IS still kind of an outsider at that point. He cares now, a little, but still not quite there yet, not until he confronts Ryoji.
That's a fair opinion
What an amazing video and what hard work you put into this one you did a fantastic job I love Makoto and this video was a blast to watch
Thank you so much!
P3 arguably is the best persona game because its a celebration of life and death. All Personas after P3 couldn't match its tone, which is fine. Just back then when P3 came out and beating it and going into P4 is huge tonal shift. What's beautiful about the school setting P3 gave is a lot of us who played this game was in school and had all these similar feelings. It was the only videogame i cried to not because it was over but it made me feel. Thanks for this review man.
There is definitely a good argument for P3 being the best one. I first got into the Persona series in high school like you brought up and the setting did resonate with me a lot, and that’s partly why it stuck with me the way it did. Thank you for the support by the way!
First of all great video.
You make me understand some aspects of the final that i didnt understand and make me apreciated and comprehend the personality of Makoto more that i originally did.
The only thing that i question is the movies the right canon? Because i notice in your videos how some events change compare in the game like metting aegis or the last battle i think the movie way even thought i only watch the clips in the video they are the right way of the events.
Also have you thought about making a vídeo about the arcanas in P3? i think with your comentary i can apreciated more the connection i make in the game.
And final question ¿Who was your favorite arcana and why?
The thing with the movies is that even though they slightly change some things (like the initial Aigis scenes), it’s basically the same exact narrative as the game, so in my eyes it’s canon enough.
I could make a video on the arcanas at some point probably. I might make that after I finish all of the other analysis videos for the P3 cast.
My personal favorite arcana in Persona 3 is the Sun, which is Akinari’s social link. I think that story line fits the games theme perfectly, and it’s the only one in the whole persona series to make me cry once I was done with it.
Thank you for the support! I’m glad this video helped you understand some things.
Thanks to the release of Reload I'm falling back into the Persona 3 rabbit hole again 😂
I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to the lore, due to me only watching the movies about 2 years ago, but P3 has a special place in my heart. The music, the story, and especially the overall beautiful message made me love it as much as I do. It really got me reflecting about my own life, and it shocked me because this is a freaking game, and I don't think a game has impacted me as much. I finally got my hands on Reload, which is actually the first persona game I'm playing. But knowing what happens at the end is so sad, and again, it's just a game but I never felt such sadness over a character death until Makoto 😭 It physically hurt after I finished the anime so I'm unprepared to watch it in the actual game 😭😭😭 There's just so much to appreciate about this game, and I felt this one on a deeper level than Persona 4 and 5, despite being introduced to Persona 5 first.
Anyway enough yapping from me, great analysis! It was interesting and I'm surprised I watched the whole thing. You do Makoto justice🤣🤣
Thank you for the support, and thank you for this comment! I really hope you enjoy your time with reload!
6:56 I have completely original experience regarding this Makoto awakening. The first time I played Persona 3 (not the FEZ version), it was late at night, and I was half tired.
So during that cutscene, I saw Orpheus came out and fight the Fool shadow. But then I fell asleep when Thanatos break free. I woke up when Thanatos revert to Orpheus again.
So, I was never aware of Thanatos at all.
Then when I played FEZ, I was completely shocked when I saw Thanatos already appear in this scene.
Oh wow that's a pretty funny experience tbh haha
Another point to add, Elizabeth also help him strengthen his resolve and certify his thought
Very true
played p3/watched the movies for the first time when i was goin through it. i had friends, but i didn't really appreciate them as much as i should've at the time bc of what i was going through. ik makoto is supposed to be a "blank slate" character sorta so the player can project themself onto him but i really felt a connection to his character, more than i did with the p4 and p5 protagonists. his arc helped me do some important self reflection and figure out what i actually want to do with my life. thank you emo jesus 🙏
I can kinda relate to that, but my case was with Persona 5. The whole power of friendship and bonds thing really hit me hard and man I value my connections and loved ones a lot more today than I did before.
That’s awesome that Makoto was able to do that same thing for you that P5 did for me. Thank you for sharing this comment!
An impressive analysis, and a superb explanation of the protagonist's motivation and character arc. It makes me regret not having seen the P3 anime yet, now that I realize how much info I missed. In any case, great job! Your work is definitely worth a sub and a like. I'm looking forward to watching your other P3 analysis videos next.
Thank you so much for the support! Hopefully I can have the next analysis video up pretty soon. I definitely recommend checking out the movies still they're really cool and add some interesting changes for a lot of the cast
I just finished Reload yesterday and the ending hit me like a truck even though I almost expected it to be that way. This video was somehow balm for my soul. 🙂
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Thank you so much!
Makoto and the s.e.e.s.'s meeting before the battle with the emperor arcana made makoto realize that there are things important to him that he wants to protect
Yup
Just found this video but when I was in High School it was my first time playing Persona 3 years ago and I have already knew and played 4 at this point and despite how much I loved that game I just thought it was good and naturally lead to me playing Persona 3 but before I ended up playing it my outlook on life was getting very nihilistic on how it felt like I could not change anything and just also a growing hatred of people I had back then. Well the themes of Persona 3 it was honestly the right place right time for me for everything about it just stuck with me and I personally feel that it ended up saving my life just showing how scary death is and while I still do get depressive episodes every now and then this game always reminds me that life is beautiful and you are a valued person and people do care about you leading to this game being one of my two favorite pieces of media ever made I can not pick between it and Umineko due to how much those two helped me on different points in my life.
Thank you for sharing this comment! I'm really glad this game was able to give you a new perspective on death and life. I know it can be really tough to get out of that kind of nihilistic mindset since it is something I have struggled with myself, so the fact P3 was able to help you in that regard is amazing. Like you said, always remember that your life does have value and people do care about you, and I'm sure everything will work out. I wish you the best going forward!