The SCAM Bagged Soil Companies Don't Want You To Know

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  • @jcarter855
    @jcarter855 16 дней назад +592

    If you disappear, we all know it was "Big Soil"

    • @PG-fy9mq
      @PG-fy9mq 12 дней назад +6

      Hah hah

    • @Herbhead369
      @Herbhead369 12 дней назад +3

      lol 😂

    • @sandicruz8984
      @sandicruz8984 9 дней назад +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Purpose_Porpoise
      @Purpose_Porpoise 7 дней назад +16

      Miracle Gro Whistleblower found DED in his greenhouse!
      They say he was surrounded by sifted All purpose potting mix.

    • @NCorral
      @NCorral 4 дня назад +2

      😂

  • @darcysimental5299
    @darcysimental5299 Месяц назад +2102

    What i find even more despicable is the amount of chunks of wood in every “type” of bagged soil. It’s all wood chunks at this point

    • @mikeb1039
      @mikeb1039 Месяц назад +121

      There is next to 0 "soil" in bagged soil. ;)
      To be fair, ALL organic matter (including wood chunks) turn INTO soil when eaten and digested (and crapped out) by the soil microorganisms and bugs.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Месяц назад +62

      LOL, you paid for a bag of wood. Merry Christmas

    • @celestejohnson9227
      @celestejohnson9227 Месяц назад +93

      I don’t mind the wood chunks as much but I’m seeing lots of large rocks in what I bought last year. Just used my last bag and full of rocks.

    • @vaderladyl
      @vaderladyl Месяц назад +45

      Wood is not that bad and you actually need to amend soil with wood chips sometimes, depending on the type of plant and how compact your soil is naturally.

    • @wally7856
      @wally7856 Месяц назад +67

      You want those wood chunks in there. That is what amends your soil. It's the rocks that can take a hike.

  • @AKennethNolan
    @AKennethNolan 21 день назад +347

    This is a master class in marketing. "Slap a new name on it and charge twice as much." Thanks for the realistic perspective. I stretch the materials in my garden- such as soil- constantly.

    • @bhatkat
      @bhatkat 18 дней назад +6

      Making money off ignorance. Well that would be about half the economy there so don't get too carried away now. The sophistocation of buyers are always tested and ivariably taken advantage of, picked up a bag of grass seed at the local lovely natural place and it was literally 4X the price of the bulk product behind me down on the ground. Think this was a deliberate ploy? I'll go with I just don't know.

    • @zackkertzman7709
      @zackkertzman7709 17 дней назад

      Ehh, I bet it's dumber than that... They probably only really make potting soil to start out, then they have to go through essentially the same process (sifting, amending, etc...) in order to produce the specialty blends - so that's how they price it. The price for the specialty blends is set at [potting mix] + [additional effort and materials].

    • @user-sw1gc6bd2q
      @user-sw1gc6bd2q 16 дней назад +3

      They do the same thing with milk its all pastuerized and bottled in the same place just gets a different label at the end...its hilarious to see them right next to one another on the shelf as competing brands...the cheaper one is just as good as the other one.

    • @erneststaszuk4559
      @erneststaszuk4559 12 дней назад

      @@zackkertzman7709 one of the things I've learned in life that price point is always set at how many buyers would be willing to pay for product at particular price and how it compare to competitors. Rebranding it like "special something for something" may give a product attention and cause people to buy something more expensive. Just yesterday I had in hands two moskitos repellents made by the same company. Exactly the same ingredients, same concentration, same cans. Different labels (one for 6m to 3yo kids, other for 3+ kids), different prices.
      Sometimes it gets even funnier. I am using with kids some syrup for hydrating throat (literally purified water, glicerol and flavors). There are two versions - one for younger children and other for older olders. The only difference is in concentration (and label ofc). And the one more diluted and confectioned in smaller bottle is also more expansive.
      Btw I would make this syrup myself for pennies, but wife goes like "blablabla" something about syrups should be bought at pharmacy I think. Probably even if I would buy ingredients at the same place (few times cheaper) it would not pass. Marketing power can be unbelievable.

    • @nottoday3666
      @nottoday3666 11 дней назад +1

      @@zackkertzman7709 I'm not understanding what thescam is tho? Like for an orchid you need something with shredded types of wood that the regular pottingsoil doesn't have. That's why specialty bags happen. What am I missing here?

  • @eigleenalegri2664
    @eigleenalegri2664 22 дня назад +699

    It's amazing civilization survived for millennia without bags of soil for agriculture

    • @Deivid_C
      @Deivid_C 21 день назад +41

      Exactly. Mom grew every single thing with cow dung from grandpa’s farm and soil from the backyard. And everything was always amazing

    • @ForBetterorWorse
      @ForBetterorWorse 20 дней назад +41

      We need to get back to composting. Big AG is depleting our soil😔 But yes, we are totally buying into something unnecessary

    • @johnharrison2511
      @johnharrison2511 20 дней назад +16

      It's a cheap way to buy land.

    • @MsJenna-pb3ur
      @MsJenna-pb3ur 19 дней назад +9

      😂 this whole thread is the best

    • @rickwilliams967
      @rickwilliams967 18 дней назад +9

      Almost like you can find most of it in nature.

  • @itschelseakay
    @itschelseakay 29 дней назад +658

    I love it that I’ve made it to the side of RUclips that is exposing big soil. I’m here for it and will be subscribing 👏🏻😆

    • @Waspytcu
      @Waspytcu 23 дня назад +7

      Big Soil! Regulations is needed ASAP😂

    • @jarrettvasco7710
      @jarrettvasco7710 17 дней назад

      Do you see what he charges for his products?😂😂

    • @FaaaaaaaQ2
      @FaaaaaaaQ2 17 дней назад +2

      I don't even garden and this was in my recs. I have now been exposed to the truth. Stop big soil now.

    • @mcbrite
      @mcbrite 15 дней назад +4

      Wait until you find out you don't need ANY soil at all! ;-)

    • @river4462
      @river4462 14 дней назад

      BIG everything. Profit greed and corruption. Most bagged dirt with even "brand names" have high amounts of lead. Also states what is in the bag regarding concentrations of sludge. And this goes into the plants. Then into the body. Better brands like Coast of Maine and Happy Frog are more reliable as far as organic and clean are concerned.
      Use gloves and take precautions breathing in the dust, etc etc are usually stated. What is that telling people? Corporations have no interest in the well being of people. They have no idea what they are manufacturing because they have no clue where this dirt initially is coming from.
      Easy to make amendments from certain weeds and the green algae from rivers and streams that flow clean. Can grow much for amending the soil. Comfrey, horsetail, nettles the list is endless. Can make foliar sprays from certain weeds, plants, aromatic ones, fruit tree leaves, rose petals, anything. Can find recipes on youtube or just research. Need to add molasses and stirring these concoctions is necessary. Amending the soil is beneficial. Home gardens can be taken care of quite easily when people who live in the country forage for soil from the woods. Dead tree stumps give much only if these stumps are hollow with a build up of soil within.
      Too much deceipt in society regarding most anything. The power for change comes when the masses of people quit supporting shady and corrupt big businesses. Supporting small businesses in comparison works.
      So much for "name brands" like miracle gro in this video. Rubbish.

  • @howellomaha
    @howellomaha Месяц назад +1102

    For those that want a sifter but don't know how to make/where to purchase:
    I purchased a kitty litter sifter pan (about $15) and is very heavy duty and lightweight. It comes as a two pack so you get two sifters for that price (it is supposed to sift the waste) and I find it really works great for my potting needs.

    • @blessedbygod3430
      @blessedbygod3430 Месяц назад +23

      Thanks😊

    • @ganymededarling
      @ganymededarling Месяц назад +29

      Great tip!

    • @CamMcB
      @CamMcB Месяц назад +28

      Never thought of using a kitty sifter scoop but though the wire version for deep fryers foods might work if the sifter is too heavy

    • @TheTamrock2007
      @TheTamrock2007 Месяц назад +45

      I saw a lady that used two wire trash cans. One inside the other, because hers had larger holes. Worked great

    • @robinmiddlebrook861
      @robinmiddlebrook861 Месяц назад +7

      Brilliant!

  • @descendantofsomeone
    @descendantofsomeone 17 дней назад +73

    I have never been more informed and intimidated at the same time. Thank you for posting this!

  • @jmezzofante9337
    @jmezzofante9337 27 дней назад +80

    I shared this with a Facebook gardening group. I noticed you left out gardening soil aka mulch. When I filled my raised beds, I ordered bulk screened top soil, composted cow, and hummus as individual parts because it was half the price of the mixed version and about 1/8 the price of the bagged soils. I mixed it myself and added the additives that I wanted for the plants I was growing. I have had great results. Thank you for sharing this with others.

    • @mikhalych9748
      @mikhalych9748 15 дней назад

      What is garden soil? Just mulch?

    • @Roseles89
      @Roseles89 12 дней назад +3

      Do you have advice for someone starting out with a garden on where to look for resources like that? I'm about to build my raised beds and I'm dreading buying the soil as I know i'll need several bags of the stuff. At the least I know I wasn't going to go after raised mixes from the big box stores.

    • @dessiewatkins1565
      @dessiewatkins1565 11 дней назад +2

      That comment put me back mentally to a time that I almost felt like gardening was like rocket science. Then I remembered even with nature God laid the foundation and we learn one step at a time.

    • @CalvinJGreen
      @CalvinJGreen 10 дней назад +5

      ​@Roseles89
      Depending on the depth/size of your beds, you can fill the bottoms up with clean scrap wood (non- treated) branches, and clippings, then bulk "topsoil" then good compost/planting mix.
      If you have shallower beds less filler may be necessary. Making your own compost if you have the space is a great option to help supplement your growing medium.

    • @fredbriggs5892
      @fredbriggs5892 3 дня назад +1

      Hummus?

  • @nateauld
    @nateauld Месяц назад +830

    'I just don't like that they're making money off ignorance.' Agreed. Thanks for the info

    • @SativaVerte
      @SativaVerte Месяц назад +15

      Espoma does that by selling small bags of berry tone only, when in reality the Holly tone is the same exact thing and comes in bigger bags

    • @sherriianiro747
      @sherriianiro747 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@SativaVerte Holly Tone is more acidic which is why it is recommended for evergreens. There are are some exceptions like blueberries and other plants.

    • @harshalshah4685
      @harshalshah4685 Месяц назад

      @@sherriianiro747 I am looking at the guaranteed analysis labels for both Hollytone and Berrytone, and they are exactly the same label word for word and number for number. there is zero discernible difference between the two products.

    • @user-ml3yf7pg7g
      @user-ml3yf7pg7g Месяц назад

      @ nateauld 99.6% of the American people are fools. They will voted for Joe Biden again. Can you believe it ?

    • @happyhobbit8450
      @happyhobbit8450 Месяц назад +2

      Buyer beware

  • @OakParkGardener
    @OakParkGardener Месяц назад +312

    This is the kind of good information that you won't hear from other garden RUclipsrs who are being sponsored by potting mix companies. Thank you for the honest info!

    • @mollypitcher9380
      @mollypitcher9380 29 дней назад +7

      You mean the GARDEN ANSWER site that strongly encourages its viewers to buy MANY unnecessary gardening materials.

    • @michellehawkins1027
      @michellehawkins1027 28 дней назад +4

      All I got from this was buy a basic potting soil bag, sift it, use what's left in the sift for orchids, and for everything else use what was sifted. And I guess add some sand but I have no idea how much for cactus.

    • @BenEstes55
      @BenEstes55 28 дней назад

      @@michellehawkins1027 A dixie cup amount of sand

    • @belavet
      @belavet 28 дней назад

      @@michellehawkins1027if you start your own seed, you've learned all you needed to from this one video to cut your costs by 2/3. Seed mix is asinine in price.

    • @epiclight858
      @epiclight858 28 дней назад +4

      Lol yeah not much information in this video. You still need to buy specifically potting mix​@michellehawkins1027

  • @laudigerber9729
    @laudigerber9729 27 дней назад +27

    First time I saw your program and I like what you're saying. I subscribed at once and I'll follow you from now on. 80 years old and never to old to learn something new..😂😂

  • @sherylynnwales2193
    @sherylynnwales2193 18 дней назад +12

    I just wanted to say a MASSIVE thank you for all of the time & effort that you have put into your videos on your channel. You are my GO TO for gardening information. I started out as a complete lost newbie a few years ago and now thanks to your videos my garden has become my "Happy Place" where we enjoy a great harvest of a variety of fruits and veggies. My amazing wonderful husband even built me a greenhouse last year. THANK YOU!!!!

  • @choppinblock3179
    @choppinblock3179 Месяц назад +619

    "Don't like making money off of ignorance" If only the pharmaceutical companies had a motto like yours.

    • @goku445
      @goku445 27 дней назад +16

      Basically any company does it. If they can.

    • @KoharuUchihaK
      @KoharuUchihaK 26 дней назад

      @@goku445big pharma being the worst of them all

    • @spacewater7
      @spacewater7 25 дней назад

      Sociopaths all. Especially in mid-level management.

    • @slantedshark3853
      @slantedshark3853 25 дней назад +11

      Thanks capitalism....

    • @firestick4991
      @firestick4991 24 дня назад +6

      Sham-poo vs body wash is another one. There’s a lot of them. Unnecessary cleaning products, when dish soap, white vinegar and baking soda is all you’ll ever need!

  • @PureLace
    @PureLace Месяц назад +280

    What makes me angry is buying bags of soil/manure and have it come with a bunch of pieces of different plastic and wire in it. Drives me nuts!

    • @r.martin3494
      @r.martin3494 26 дней назад

      It's probably imported from Ukraine on the cheap from Putin and his cronies then repackaged in the west. That wire could be part of a municipal library! Russia will never live down the shame! Just like Germany and Japan.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 26 дней назад +11

      Tell the animals to stop eating plastic and wires then.. 😂
      Btw that's why in some places they have magnets on cows to stop them blocking up.

    • @CMZneu
      @CMZneu 25 дней назад +11

      @@TheWebstaff Really?... looked into it, it's called hardware disease for anybody wondering.

    • @adventurejay545
      @adventurejay545 24 дня назад +20

      Wow, the last two big bags of soil I bought were a mess! They were filled with huge chunks of wood, roofing shingles, and even rocks mixed in. Not what I expected at all!

    • @holly50575
      @holly50575 22 дня назад +1

      @@CMZneu🤯

  • @benjaminwilliams3568
    @benjaminwilliams3568 День назад +2

    Absolutely wonderful and extremely informative video. You're right, as a L o n g time home Gardner. I was ignorant, I paid for what it said specifically on the bag.
    What you showed me here makes more sense than I have and I thank you. ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @evavargova42
    @evavargova42 3 дня назад +4

    Thank you for putting this information out there and confirming it. I've been messing around in my garden and with soil for quite some time and I noticed this was the case but I'm so glad you're putting this out to the public.

  • @aiddaphomvisay9422
    @aiddaphomvisay9422 Месяц назад +271

    I have always wondered about all those bags and bags at the big box stores. This is probably the best gardening info ever. You're obviously not being sponsored by Miracle Gro lmao. Thank-you!!

  • @lindalouis3731
    @lindalouis3731 Месяц назад +272

    I literally giggled when you said don't come after me regarding the sand. Lol!!

    • @paulstaley4472
      @paulstaley4472 19 дней назад +1

      SAME! 😂

    • @karolawatches
      @karolawatches 17 дней назад +10

      I’m in Florida so there’s quite a bit of sand and I recommend if you bring home a Dixie cup of sand that you bake it first. Sand fleas and fungus gnats can erupt overnight when they incubate in your perfect soil especially if it’s inside the house! Eeeeeeek!

  • @amrice62
    @amrice62 3 дня назад +2

    Thanks for setting me straight - the toothpaste comparison gets the point across so well!!!
    I thought that paying more meant better quality for my plants-

  • @eugeneduprey72
    @eugeneduprey72 4 дня назад

    One of the best pieces of information i have ever heard. I was one of them who bought other bags for other plants. Thank you for this video and demonstration.

  • @hillbillyprepping3257
    @hillbillyprepping3257 Месяц назад +258

    After gardening for over 50 years I still get good tips from
    MIgardener

    • @jeannine9066
      @jeannine9066 Месяц назад +2

      Me, too!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Месяц назад +2

      Me three.

    • @anashiedler6926
      @anashiedler6926 15 дней назад

      the problem is just that he spread misinformation. The soil in those packets differs in ph-value, water-intake possibility (sorry english is just my second language), and so on. Many plants have special needs regarding the soil, and rely on those differences.

    • @Penneypepper
      @Penneypepper 13 дней назад +1

      I don't believe the previous comment is correct. Just my opinion. But i've been gardening for over fifty years and never buy special dirt for special things. They grow they thrive their great. There are.
      Certain ones that you have to be careful with like he said because of being too wet.Or too dry but basically dirt is dirt. And everything that we have is from marketing and greed. We don't need any of it. If you know what i'm getting that. So if you're doing.
      It for convenience great, if not, take it to advice.It's good.

  • @Lucifergreenthumb
    @Lucifergreenthumb 29 дней назад +246

    I work at a garden center even if I tell customers all this information they don’t care because of convenience. Mostly the elderly, they like to buy small bags at a time when they need it for their specific plant. But it’s a good video.

    • @kitty4536
      @kitty4536 27 дней назад +30

      I agree. My mom lives in a small apartment and there's no room to spread things out to sift and mix, or even to lift the dirt to sift by herself. I always buy the smallest bag because she has no room to store the extra soil. She usually gives it away or toss it out onto neighbor's garden.

    • @francesreis5086
      @francesreis5086 26 дней назад +25

      But, as you said, what they are buying is the convenience- they still get the joy from their hobby!

    • @Minnesota_Lakes
      @Minnesota_Lakes 24 дня назад +21

      And, not to mention, bigger bags are heavy and awkward for some people.

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 23 дня назад +14

      I should ramp up my compost, shred some sticks from my yard, and mix in Perlite, and put it in small bags, maybe sell them for $3 each. My Michigan yard overflows with yard waste even though I don't fertilize or water my lawn. I make my own potting soil already, but have more dirt than I could ever use.

    • @cephalonplant4087
      @cephalonplant4087 22 дня назад +9

      ​@francesreis5086 Agreed we all don't have greenhouses or wire racks to fill a corner with things to make dirt, fertilizer is one thing that can be used often as needed

  • @pdongy
    @pdongy 14 дней назад +1

    I am trying gardening for the first time this year, and I am so happy to have found this video fairly early in the season. I'm just glad I did not spend years wasting money on the soil scam. Muchos Gracias❤

  • @oliverb5395
    @oliverb5395 27 дней назад +1

    Thank you for confirming what I have been doing for years while having slight doubts about it :D

  • @odilepeloquin2040
    @odilepeloquin2040 Месяц назад +110

    This was your best video yet. Stay unapologetically passionate!

    • @slickdaddy_tv4499
      @slickdaddy_tv4499 Месяц назад

      He needs to apologize for false information all toothpaste is NOT the same lmao , and why would he even go there! he has no clue what he's talking about.

  • @JMJMeshel
    @JMJMeshel Месяц назад +174

    If you're growing a lot of plants, you can go to a tree service, a landscaping service, or a large nursery that sells compost by the yard, cost about $50.00-$60.00 You have to have a pick up truck or a trailer. Buy a 2.2 cubic block of peat moss, cost about $12.00, and a large bag of perlite about $15.00. Mix 3 parts peat to 3 parts compost and 1 part perlite. This will pot up tons of plants.

    • @itme7685
      @itme7685 Месяц назад +14

      I think you haven’t checked peat moss prices in the past 2 years. Or you happen to live somewhere where there is a great deal.

    • @plantlady1227
      @plantlady1227 Месяц назад +7

      We used to have a wonderful nursery near us in Oregon - since we don't own a truck they were more than happy to bring us dumptruck loads of 50/50 soil and compost mix. It wasn't cheap, but it was probably a better deal than buying a lot of bagged soil since they measured it out by the generous tractor bucket load. It was also the most lovely dark, sifted soil - you could grow just about anything in it and the plants were so wonderfully productive. I haven't found anything even close to that since we moved out of state, and I miss them so badly!

    • @itme7685
      @itme7685 Месяц назад +3

      @@plantlady1227 Where in Oregon? If it's anywhere close to Dallas, OR (30 min west of Salem) let me know. I also have no truck to get material. I'm trying to avoid high costs of any kind, but definitely don't have enough of my own compost/leaf mold.

    • @ellafly3490
      @ellafly3490 Месяц назад +6

      We went to our local nursery and bought compost in 5 gallon buckets for $1 per 5 gallon bucket. They also sell soil for $1.50 a bucket. A bag cost $13. We have a local source for free goat manure. Free wood chips from chip drop.

    • @JMJMeshel
      @JMJMeshel Месяц назад

      @@itme7685
      Mishawaka, Indiana
      Menards 2.2 cf brick $12.00

  • @Jc-lh4mr
    @Jc-lh4mr 4 часа назад

    I respect a man that knows his stuff. I appreciate the knowledge you shared. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @soulcandyalmadulce5885
    @soulcandyalmadulce5885 26 дней назад

    You are appreciated for shining light on this.

  • @dg594
    @dg594 Месяц назад +184

    Omg THANK YOU. walking into the garden center for soil with very little gardening knowledge is the most confusing experience ever

    • @hootiebubbabuddhabelly
      @hootiebubbabuddhabelly Месяц назад +6

      And until you take the training wheels off, Miracle-Gro has got you covered. What he's talking about isn't a scam. If one doesn't know what one is doing, Miracle-Gro insures quality control because your soil is THAT important and there's nothing wrong with paying for such expertise when you're just starting out. So, now you know. And you will notice he used their own potting soil, rather than potting soil from an actual RIP-OFF company and on which he would not have gotten the same, PERFECT, result..

    • @CowsGoM3ow
      @CowsGoM3ow Месяц назад +10

      @@hootiebubbabuddhabelly Corporate schill much. Paying $10+ for a bag of dirt lol.

    • @hootiebubbabuddhabelly
      @hootiebubbabuddhabelly Месяц назад +3

      @@CowsGoM3ow do your own homework

    • @CowsGoM3ow
      @CowsGoM3ow Месяц назад +7

      @@hootiebubbabuddhabelly Good argument for why a bag of dirt should be $10+ lol...
      $3 bag of potting mix turned into 4+ lines of $10+ bags of sifted potting mix. Or the raised garden bed dirt... being the exact same as the $3 bag of potting mix.
      But schill some more.

    • @susie6315
      @susie6315 Месяц назад

      Yes!!

  • @iloveit9468
    @iloveit9468 Месяц назад +256

    I’m 62 years old I live near lake saint Clair MI. I’m still learning something new everyday! I appreciate you so much Luke. I love and have great passion for gardening and you have made my experience so much more successful! I would love to come to your store and maybe actually even get to meet you ❤ best to you and Sindy, take care dear. 🍀

    • @treasurehunter2299
      @treasurehunter2299 Месяц назад +4

      Thank you for all the information.

    • @colleenselby8818
      @colleenselby8818 Месяц назад +8

      I made a HUGE mistake and bought a bag of $Tree potting mix to transplant a couple of house plants. I didn't need a large bag and my thought was, they are just house plants, how bad can it be? It was literally clay soil. What a rip off! I really hope beginner gardeners don't buy that and expect to grow food in it!

    • @YuujiVermillion61
      @YuujiVermillion61 Месяц назад +6

      The journey is eternal with knowledge 😅

    • @allenferry9632
      @allenferry9632 Месяц назад +15

      That was a fun and informative video. They sell so much stuff in the nursery sections of big box stores so you can grow $5.00 worth of tomatoes and you'll see a cherry tomato growing in a crack in a parking lot with no care covered with blooms and fruit.

    • @desireedusseau1769
      @desireedusseau1769 Месяц назад +4

      Thank you for this! I always have bought perlite and orchid bark to make my houseplant mix. I'm honing in my produce garden and I'll be spending much less money.

  • @jbaby007
    @jbaby007 13 дней назад

    I’ve been following you for years and this is why I stick around. Trusted information. Love your fertilizer btw.

  • @hubertyoung1938
    @hubertyoung1938 28 дней назад

    Thanks for sharing Migardener. The things you learn and observe when you get into a thing. I get your passion.

  • @curiouscitizen4098
    @curiouscitizen4098 Месяц назад +80

    You are educating people, and nothing wrong with not liking people being taken advantage of. It actually shows what a good human you are.

    • @slickdaddy_tv4499
      @slickdaddy_tv4499 Месяц назад +1

      How is it educating people when this guy is claiming all toothpaste is the same thing?? My Mother is a Dentist for 31 years and can't stopp laughing..some dude talking about soil blurts out completely false information.

    • @j10001
      @j10001 18 дней назад +1

      The toothpaste comment definitely didn’t help his point!

  • @lorihulen7962
    @lorihulen7962 Месяц назад +81

    I’m so glad I found your channel. I am 69 years old and I just moved into a new home. I’ve never done any gardening in my life. Going to use your channel as my education. Thank you so much.

    • @5DNRG
      @5DNRG 28 дней назад +5

      Congratulations on your new home!😊

    • @camouflagejumpsuit
      @camouflagejumpsuit 22 дня назад +3

      Enjoy your home and garden

    • @everlastinglife5978
      @everlastinglife5978 18 дней назад

      It a learning process but it's worth it. MI Gardner is a great resource I have been watching him for years.

    • @MB-xl4cz
      @MB-xl4cz 18 дней назад +2

      I started 4 years ago, strawberries. I'm now planting lettuce,onions sweet potato, Blueberries and more. It's all in pots or raised beds. I love being out there watching and learning everyday. Plenty of birds for company. Peaceful is the best description! 🌻Oh yeah, last fall planted a pear tree🌳 it's beautiful 🌻

  • @garryanderson598
    @garryanderson598 27 дней назад

    Thanks for clarification...I was going to mix my top soil and potting mix...

  • @hali73
    @hali73 24 дня назад +1

    LOVE IT!!! I currently have 3 different bags of soil on the go (potting mix, cactus & orchid) plus a bag of perlite! I wish I’d found this channel sooner! ❤

  • @TheAshice
    @TheAshice Месяц назад +176

    This was so aggressive and chaotic… I love it

    • @gailbancer1571
      @gailbancer1571 Месяц назад +6

      No it wasn’t it was valuable information. You are projecting your aggression and chaos.

    • @randomness32810
      @randomness32810 Месяц назад +14

      @@gailbancer1571 7:14 the editing is chaotic/aggressive. It's also fairly dramatic. But the video itself is extremely educational, yes.

    • @titosrevenger
      @titosrevenger Месяц назад +20

      ​@@gailbancer1571It was a compliment. Perhaps they weren't the one projecting.

    • @johannacoreas3968
      @johannacoreas3968 Месяц назад +7

      @@titosrevenger right 👀 lol

    • @johannacoreas3968
      @johannacoreas3968 Месяц назад +11

      He’s tired of the companies’ 💩 and it shows 😅

  • @microhomesteadecology
    @microhomesteadecology Месяц назад +52

    I was so ticked when I opened a bag of raised bed mix that was literally full of wood sticks! Like huge chunks of branches. Ridiculous what they sell as soil!

    • @ericawhitfield9289
      @ericawhitfield9289 Месяц назад +9

      It’s pissed me off before! It’s a bag of mulch basically! It’ll be soil in 2 years if I leave it in my compost. 🤪

    • @lonayork591
      @lonayork591 28 дней назад +2

      Yep. I bought a huge bag of Hyponex potting soil, and it was nasty MOLDY mulch. I had to throw it away.

    • @mosart7025
      @mosart7025 26 дней назад

      @@lonayork591 Don't throw it away! Compost it. It's halfway there already. If you have raised beds dig down a little and work it in. The wood holds water so the soil doesn't dry out so fast (look up hügelkultur) and it takes up space so you don't need as much bought soil.

    • @someoneelse.2252
      @someoneelse.2252 2 дня назад

      Same here in Canada. Lesson learned: Give these wood chip selling companies, who pass off product as 'Soil', really 'good' advertising by word of mouth and social media.

  • @carolynreeves3646
    @carolynreeves3646 28 дней назад +13

    Thank you for this. Its maddening the amount of false advertising and /or misleading information we put up with as consumers! 😡

  • @beetickler6418
    @beetickler6418 23 дня назад

    I grew up in Algonac, moved to Virginia but still like watching MIgardener. Good info always.

  • @andralandi1108
    @andralandi1108 Месяц назад +71

    Thanks for this video! It couldn’t have come at a better time - I’ve been mixing my own seed starting and potting mixes this year for the first time and have been so happy with the cost savings, but I ALMOST had a weak moment at the store a couple of days ago when I thought about buying cactus blend to repot my cacti and succulents. In the end, I couldn’t justify the expense, so it’s good to know that I already have everything I need at home, including the sand 👍
    I also wanted to thank you for making gardening more accessible by frequently sharing ways to save money, as well as by selling your own line of seeds at such a low price. I’m having great success so far with my first order of MIGardener seeds, and the savings allowed me to even experiment with a few new vegetables. Gardening should be available to everyone, so thanks for doing your part to help make that a reality 😊

  • @rsnjl
    @rsnjl Месяц назад +31

    I've been a farmer / gardener for all my life and grew up in the business. I always recommend exactly what you're saying. I love your passion. Keep growing.

  • @dobsonfarm493
    @dobsonfarm493 8 дней назад

    Perfect timing! I asked myself the same question earlier today because I want to start more seeds. Thanks for saving me money!

  • @sweethallewis
    @sweethallewis 22 часа назад

    This is my first time watching you and I already love your channel! Thanks for telling it like it is! ❤❤

  • @islandgal500
    @islandgal500 29 дней назад +53

    I've known this for a long time and have noticed this more with food packaging. People will buy specific expensive items that can so easily be made at home. I really reminded myself of that during the pandemic lockdowns and shortages of basic food items. Took me a few minutes to remember that I can make these things myself with little effort and so much cheaper. I've been a package ingredient examiner for ages and then the light bulb goes off when we see that the packaged product is just basic things we have at home already.

    • @julesslim8229
      @julesslim8229 23 дня назад +5

      Boxed pancake mix!

    • @trevnti
      @trevnti 16 дней назад +2

      I buy it because I’m lazy. I will 100% admit that. I have 2 kids… I’ll meal prep them then eat chips because I have 0 effort left lol. These products are for me. Just need to find the cheapest one

    • @islandgal500
      @islandgal500 16 дней назад +2

      @@trevnti I don't think anyone with 2 kids can call themselves lazy! I had 2 kids and even with being an at home Mom, I still bought conveniences. At different stages of our lives, we have different needs. I'm a senior and alone now and on a remote island, so my needs are more of being able to make it because I can't buy it. I also have that time to spare so it is fun to know I can make my own basics.
      My location (under 300 people) also means there are very few businesses that will ship at a reasonable price because sometimes the item shipping is half the price of the item/s, so not logical to order. Also takes nearly 2 weeks to get here (surface-postal mail shipping only).
      Your priority is to your family and yourself right now. Do whatever it takes to make life easier for yourself so you can save that energy for your kids. We do not think they notice, but mine are in their 40s now and still laugh about all the extra things I did with, and for, them.

    • @christinebeames712
      @christinebeames712 13 дней назад

      Just subbed

    • @islandgal500
      @islandgal500 13 дней назад

      @@christinebeames712 The Channel probably appreciates your subscription??LOL

  • @nicolepsy
    @nicolepsy Месяц назад +58

    If you think about it, a raised bed is essentially just a big pot. Hence, the potting soil.

  • @coolmishime
    @coolmishime 20 дней назад

    This was very informative thank you. I saved it to my gardening folder

  • @janncoons7445
    @janncoons7445 28 дней назад +9

    I absolutely love and admire these people that expose these greedy corporations❤❤

  • @cyndimanuel5473
    @cyndimanuel5473 Месяц назад +53

    So good, Luke! You cracked me up - love your passion for helping gardeners. You’ve just exposed one of the biggest tools of the marketing industry - marketing something as “special” when it isn’t and getting people to pay more for it. You could do this same video for fertilizers, birdseed blends, food and clothing brands,… it’s endless. Always “pays” to do your research. Great video!

    • @YourDoomIsSealed
      @YourDoomIsSealed Месяц назад

      I was told that I'm the biggest tool, so....take that! Anyway....

  • @admirerofcreativity5295
    @admirerofcreativity5295 Месяц назад +55

    This video just proves how much you care about all of us, such good information. Thank you ❤❤

  • @rachelyates7473
    @rachelyates7473 13 дней назад

    This is so helpful! Longtime gardener, and I had no idea!

  • @panicmerchants
    @panicmerchants 13 дней назад +1

    Thank you so much. I can now cross orchid mix off my shopping list. Great work

  • @nancyseery2213
    @nancyseery2213 Месяц назад +33

    I totally agree. When i have to buy bagged soil, I usually just pick the one on sale or cheapest potting mix. I use it in pots, my raised beds or mix it into my native soil to loosen up our clay. Next year I will empty my pots and blend the used potting soil in to my clay and start new in the pots or to add into my raised beds. God bless y'all and keep growing!

    • @katekelley7430
      @katekelley7430 26 дней назад

      I do the same. Except my soil is more sandy. Getting richer every year

    • @thaismatsumoto
      @thaismatsumoto 22 дня назад +1

      And since i have bears , i throw all veggie and food waste in a pile away from my home .But it's near my garden. The bears usually eat the food waste but leave the veggies alone. So i have compost.

  • @DoctorMandible
    @DoctorMandible Месяц назад +96

    Get a couple runner boards to slide your sifter on top of. Oil or wax them up. That way you don't have to hold up the weight of it while sifting.

    • @BestCosmologist
      @BestCosmologist Месяц назад +4

      That's an incredible idea.

    • @mudcatfrank7537
      @mudcatfrank7537 Месяц назад +7

      I made a sifting screen with caster wheels and a frame to roll it on. It sets upon a small wagon when I sift soil and woodchips. The coarse woodchips are used as mulch and the fine siftings are mixed with the top soil for potting and amending my raised beds.

    • @DoctorMandible
      @DoctorMandible Месяц назад +1

      ​@@mudcatfrank7537Nice! I have a simple lean-to sifter that I throw shovels of dirt at. Whatever makes it through gets caught on a tarp. Whatever doesn't gets raked around the trees.

    • @Crazychickenlady448
      @Crazychickenlady448 Месяц назад +1

      I've seen a video where she made basically the same sifter, but put a couple "feet" on it so it doesn't fall off her wheel barrow when she shakes it back and forth. That seemed to work pretty good too.

    • @jerrybessetteDIY
      @jerrybessetteDIY Месяц назад +3

      I built mine to fit on my wheel barrow.

  • @johnsonjohnson4725
    @johnsonjohnson4725 11 дней назад

    Love this! I’ve said it to people for years - thank you for confirming❣️

  • @catherinephillips2121
    @catherinephillips2121 16 дней назад

    Thank you so much for teaching me how to save money! I always appreciate anyone willing to do that. I will need to look at more of your videos to see what else you can teach me 😀

  • @mmstetler
    @mmstetler Месяц назад +38

    I sure wish Luke was more passionate about soils.... Great video! :)

  • @KlausM4
    @KlausM4 Месяц назад +24

    I understand that people wanna buy ready bag to use so that's probably for people that don't have option to mix or don't want spend time to do it. The same with fertilazor. But you have huge respect from me doing this video. Not everybody has guts to do it! I hope people wont take it as video against commercial bags but rather the way how to garden and stay on the budget.

    • @user-cp1qb4ix4t
      @user-cp1qb4ix4t Месяц назад +2

      I have been gardening for years and didn't know this. Thanks so much!!

  • @ivythornburg8189
    @ivythornburg8189 16 дней назад +1

    lol i love this, i thought i was taking some sort of risk buying the miracle grow that wasn't specifically for my raised bed while it was on sale for $2 a bag and i was able to use it in my flower and raised bed for about $60 total. its my first year trying to use a greenhouse and outdoor raised bed and im so excited to see how it goes.

  • @delialee6320
    @delialee6320 28 дней назад

    Such a helpful young man 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you for the posting mix etc., tips 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @michaelwalker2091
    @michaelwalker2091 Месяц назад +78

    I purchased a bag of their potting mix once that looked more like mulch. I’m thinking to myself, “If I wanted mulch, I would have purchased it by the scoop.” This is some great information!!

    • @lindacampeau9870
      @lindacampeau9870 Месяц назад +1

      I had more wood in my potting mix and I will not buy MGro anymore. Money spent for nothing 8:21

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 29 дней назад

      @@lindacampeau9870 MGro is the worst. Your better off buying brands you have never heard of.. Or if marijuana is legal where you are. Go to the grow stores there. They sell way better soils

  • @louisedudley6478
    @louisedudley6478 Месяц назад +16

    Thanks for sharing this info. I have been so frustrated with all the sticks and chunks in the name brand soil that i made a sifter to get rid of it. Glad to see I was on the right track! I don’t grow orchids so I just add the large pieces to my mulch. Really enjoy this channel and your passion for gardening!

  • @P46169
    @P46169 16 дней назад +1

    I was at the garden centre just the other day looking at all the different bags totally confused and thinking to myself how different can they be ? Now I know !

  • @janetcrane59
    @janetcrane59 19 дней назад

    Thank you Luke! You are the most honest man on youtube.

  • @leemayzes1200
    @leemayzes1200 29 дней назад +23

    I've spent eight years building my dirt. It is black gold. I had a newbie friend the other day want to go and buy bags of potting soil. I laughed lovingly gave him what he needed. Gardeners are the best people in the world!!

    • @drinmer1
      @drinmer1 2 дня назад +2

      Maybe you should start by knowing the diffence of soil vs dirt... I hope you gave him a soil mixture and not a dirt mixture... also f your elitetism.

    • @DG-iw3yw
      @DG-iw3yw День назад

      @drinmer1 F your elitism? Maybe you should start by learing what a synonym is. Dirt can actually be used as a descriptive word aswell for example, "Your attitude is dirt"
      Go love yourself lmao

    • @MP-in4or
      @MP-in4or 2 часа назад

      I agree. No matter what soil I have ever bought it has wood chips in it. Makes it hard to grow grass.

  • @destinyandpurpose
    @destinyandpurpose Месяц назад +39

    Just wow! The raised bed soil, yep, I have purchased it. LOL Thanks for this most educational video!

    • @kevinbossick8374
      @kevinbossick8374 Месяц назад +5

      I get it because it’s cheaper than the other bags. It says raised bed and container mix. I use it for beds and containers.

  • @Deborah-ut3ud
    @Deborah-ut3ud 28 дней назад

    Thanks for such helpful information. Always appreciate learning something new - especially when it can save me money. 😊

  • @baileyjean7468
    @baileyjean7468 28 дней назад

    I can’t believe it! Omg I am one of those that have FALLEN hard. I never took the time to educate myself. Ughhhhhhhh. All these years! I love this and your channel. Here for life now! 😊

  • @deewinston5651
    @deewinston5651 Месяц назад +13

    Thank you Luke. It is pretty aggravating when you think your buying just the right soil mixture for your plants and find out, there’s really very little difference. Thank you for this helpful information.

  • @Jaywahoo810
    @Jaywahoo810 Месяц назад +7

    I love how passionate you are about sharing your knowledge of gardening and THANK YOU for looking out for us.

  • @sajid14
    @sajid14 10 дней назад +2

    Just when you think you know everything and then bang 🥊 KO!!
    World class video overflowing with energy and enthusiasm

  • @cecilia7259
    @cecilia7259 27 дней назад +2

    Yes, it was helpful. And yes, I shared the video. And YES, we can tell you're passionate!!!

  • @db-pz1dh
    @db-pz1dh Месяц назад +21

    Coconut coir (chunky kind) is my favorite for orchids. It comes in a huge compressed brick that is usually pretty reasonable. I also add it to my other soil mixes to help with drainage. 😊

    • @dr.elenaolewsky4813
      @dr.elenaolewsky4813 29 дней назад

      Can you share where to buy coconut coir reasonably priced? I tried to check online- and the prices are so steep 😢

    • @db-pz1dh
      @db-pz1dh 29 дней назад +1

      @@dr.elenaolewsky4813 I bought it at a local larger nursery. It has lasted me years. It is more expensive than fir bark, but the reason I like it is because when I repot my orchids it looks like it has barely even broken down. So once I check the root system I just reuse the old chips and add a little more for the bigger pot. Unlike fir bark which I threw out more. I see a 10 lb block at my local Home Depot $20 w/free shipping to store, but when it's time for more I will check my local nursery first. 🙂 I also keep my orchids in unglazed terra Cotta pots...that has made a big difference. Not pretty, but plants are happy 😊

    • @MsMoople
      @MsMoople 26 дней назад

      Would it not be cheaper to just use Bark Chips that are sold for landscaping?

    • @Swiperkin
      @Swiperkin 26 дней назад +1

      I tried this but I used organic coconut husk from a coconut my aunt gave me. My orchid died 😢
      I have no orchid experience so I stopped focusing on orchids and started focusing on easier flowers 😂 im much happier now lol

    • @db-pz1dh
      @db-pz1dh 25 дней назад

      @@MsMoople Yes, but as I said to dr.elena above for the rot reasons I prefer coco chips. I'm not a commercial orchid growing company so I don't need to buy a lot.

  • @elizabethchrismanshurtz1208
    @elizabethchrismanshurtz1208 Месяц назад +8

    *Hides garden full of raised bed mix*
    Thank you for the breakdown! This season I’m trying to learn a lot more about soil and your video really helped!

  • @gsftom
    @gsftom 12 дней назад

    Great video. I kinda knew / suspected this, but didn’t take the time to research to be sure. Thanks a lot for sharing this.

  • @alexisscholtes1206
    @alexisscholtes1206 7 дней назад

    I appreciate your exasperation. Thank you!

  • @nikkireigns
    @nikkireigns Месяц назад +26

    My project for today is building a sifter! Thanks, Luke!! 🌱

    • @jerrybessetteDIY
      @jerrybessetteDIY Месяц назад +1

      I built mine to fit on my wheel barrow. I used junk 2x4s I found for trash pickup.

    • @nikkireigns
      @nikkireigns Месяц назад

      @@jerrybessetteDIY great idea, I’ll definitely do that!

    • @gruntasanaussie4594
      @gruntasanaussie4594 Месяц назад

      @@nikkireigns Use lightweight timber to build it or it's had on your back!

    • @nikkireigns
      @nikkireigns Месяц назад

      @@gruntasanaussie4594 great tip! I found some old dry scraps that should work!

  • @senorjp21
    @senorjp21 Месяц назад +124

    A friend was a supervisor at a bottling plant. She told me "oily hair shampoo, dry hair shampoo, it comes in 1 tanker truck"

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 Месяц назад +27

      Yes. The base is the same. The difference in the additives, and the proportions.

    • @RickWeberEcon
      @RickWeberEcon Месяц назад +23

      Your friend must have a lot of hair!

    • @lizmoore9043
      @lizmoore9043 Месяц назад +1

      😳

    • @patrisha7487
      @patrisha7487 Месяц назад +5

      @senorjp21 - so does Laundry Detergent. It's all the same!

    • @user-ot3md6oh9s
      @user-ot3md6oh9s Месяц назад +18

      My dad worked in a plant that bagged flour back in the ‘40s. After the quota of flour was packaged, they switched to the bags labeled Wallpaper Paste. True story. He also worked in a deli where the mild, medium and sharp cheddars were all cut from the same big wheel…

  • @rosalinerabago6389
    @rosalinerabago6389 14 дней назад

    Thank you for sharing your video. Watching the video will make me make the right choices of buying the potting mixes that will help save me some expenses. It does take a lot of expenses when gardening because I try my best to prevent fungus on plants and pests. Everything I watch here on u tube and learn from you and many others, I share with my friends and family to help them understand more to gardening and soil. Thank you again for I greatly I appreciate your video.

  • @mprasad3918
    @mprasad3918 28 дней назад

    Thank you for your honesty.

  • @billyeasley9703
    @billyeasley9703 Месяц назад +31

    Thanks Luke, I have found seed starting mix with wood chips rocks. Big scam.

  • @brg2743
    @brg2743 Месяц назад +16

    We use potting mix and compost. Works fine.

  • @debbietabor3493
    @debbietabor3493 28 дней назад

    My mind is blown 😮. I had no idea 😢. Thank you Luke ❤

  • @aimlenacia20
    @aimlenacia20 2 часа назад

    This was very helpful. Thank you.

  • @karlaziler3949
    @karlaziler3949 29 дней назад +5

    Thank ! I needed to know this. I love planting summer flowers for my front porch.

  • @PorchGardeningWithPassion
    @PorchGardeningWithPassion Месяц назад +3

    It is remarkable how they do that. Thank you for helping get the word out Luke! 👊🏻🌻👊🏻

  • @ConnieWilsonbricks101
    @ConnieWilsonbricks101 27 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the insight!

  • @alfsilvia1
    @alfsilvia1 26 дней назад

    Thank you so much for opening my eyes, we are victims of our own ignorance! I already subscribed!

  • @SuwinTzi
    @SuwinTzi Месяц назад +5

    Cheapest route is getting composted manure, coconut coir, and mixing your own. Get some sand and wood chips and then you can make yards upon yards of soil for cheaper.

  • @joshuaa262
    @joshuaa262 Месяц назад +28

    I am a new gardener and i didn't know this, i just bought a Orchid blend 2 weeks ago lol Thanks luke 🌿

    • @michasosnowski5918
      @michasosnowski5918 Месяц назад +1

      Its the same price as potting mix, so I dont get whats the point of this video. If you need the same volume, you pay the same anyway.

    • @joshuaa262
      @joshuaa262 Месяц назад

      @@michasosnowski5918 That's not true, they are smaller bags and cost more money.

    • @kareharpies
      @kareharpies Месяц назад +2

      @michasosnow According to the video his potting mix cost $5 and the other mixes cost $9-10. It will vary region to region, even store to store I'm sure.

    • @bhalliwell2191
      @bhalliwell2191 Месяц назад +3

      Loving that you can lol about this sort of thing; too many new gardeners are stressing themselves crazy about all sorts of stuff.
      I could only wish that at end of my life, the worst thing that could be said about me would be that I once overpaid for a bag of 'specialty' gardening soil when it was unnecessary.
      We all learn as we go along, and as long as your household is fed, clothed, shod, sheltered by a roof and four walls and nobody has to sleep hanging bat-like by their heels from a hook in the ceiling while you're learning, you're doing all right.😊

    • @michasosnowski5918
      @michasosnowski5918 Месяц назад

      @@kareharpies According to quick google search they are all around 6$. It may vary from store to store. In some stores it really costs 9$. I think its a store thing, not the brand. I think the brand sells it at similar cost.

  • @anacervantes1946
    @anacervantes1946 5 дней назад

    Thank you so much for this teaching moment i have to admit i have bought all of those little bags once before but i do love learning so it wont happen again! Thank you very much have a wonderful planting season

  • @tammywimpee9809
    @tammywimpee9809 28 дней назад

    Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. 😊

  • @5points7019
    @5points7019 Месяц назад +10

    I bought a skid of bagged top soil last year for $1/bag when tractor supply bought out the dozen orscheln stores.
    I went online and ordered a 2cu ft bag of vermiculite, a couple bags of perlite and peat moss... and I already have trifecta.
    Top soil is like gold in this part of the midwest and I can't buy it by the yard like I use to in Michigan. Bagged only.
    I make my own raised bed mix this way.
    Next time I go back home to michigan I absolutely need to stop in to see Luke and his crew to pick up more trifecta. I couldn't fit in a quick visit the last time I was up there.

  • @CheriRuskus
    @CheriRuskus Месяц назад +8

    Thank you so much Luke for this education about soil. I am a raised bed gardener and I have found at our local garden center they have raised bed soil for $12.95 for a large bag and the same size bag of Top Soil is $4.95. And you know what? My plants don't know the difference between the two. And when you are filling a raised bed that makes a huge difference.

    • @db-pz1dh
      @db-pz1dh 29 дней назад +1

      If there is a good landscape supply near you, that sells bark and soil, you can order by the cubic yard...I saved a ton of money filling beds this way!

  • @MrEricNakamoto
    @MrEricNakamoto 7 дней назад

    Love the passion and content 🤙🏻

  • @yvonnesmith2578
    @yvonnesmith2578 25 дней назад

    Thank You for educating us!!😊 Subscribed because of your honesty.

  • @anneyday3493
    @anneyday3493 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for devoting a show to this issue. I was so mad when I bought bagged "soil" when I started my garden four years ago, and found it was nothing but bark and a few sprinkles of fertilizer. I have slowly built the soil to be lovely and enriched, but never forgot feeling cheated.

  • @jamiewalker3563
    @jamiewalker3563 Месяц назад +3

    This was incredibly informational! You are a wealth of knowledge! Keep sharing your wisdom. Thank you!

  • @TakeT3N
    @TakeT3N 11 дней назад +1

    Thanks doll!! ❤

  • @xxvodanhxx
    @xxvodanhxx 19 дней назад

    Great video and explanation from your experience. I saw a different poster use straight MG potting mix for seed starter and several others talk about sifting. Good to know the 1/4" grate is good enough i'll make one now. Great tip for cactus mix.