Erin Wall was a magnificent artist. She was THE "go-to" girl for the almost impossibly difficult "pole position" role of Soprano #1 in this symphony, literally ALL over the world, for almost two decades. I will NEVER forget both she, and Elza van den Heever (singing soprano #2) openly weeping by the end of this magnificent symphony when it was done under Tilson Thomas with the SFO, so overcome were they by the beauty and magnificence of it all.
I think it would be hard not to. I've been to concerts in that hall. The amplitude of Mahler 8 in there must have been just unbelievable. And when you're up on the conductor's podium, all that sound is in your face. Think about it: in addition to an enlarged brass section, you have a fortissimo roll happening in the bass drum and both sets of timpani. In addition, the pipe organ is roaring like a 727 on takeoff. With those huge tam-tam smashes (gong) thrown in for good measure, it must have been have overwhelming.
I get that feeling a bit, mostly it's when I remember a piece of music that was so good it almost seems too good to be true, and inflated by memory, so I am hesitant to return and be let down haha
@Scott Miller , I disagree with you. You can't just plop them down and expect them to listen to a full Mahler symphony, you have to build up to it. When I was in college, I took music 101, to fill an elective requirement. Now I already liked orchestral music, so I figured great this'll be easy. What I wasn't ready for was to hear Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin. As I listened to other genres, I grew to appreciate them as well. The same approach might work with young people. Don't slam them with the big guns right away. Start slowly with pieces they've already heard, but didn't know they had. O Fortuna, from Carmina Burana, the finale of the 1812 Overture, the final movement of the William Tell Overture, Ode to Joy, the Canon in D, maybe even What's Opera Doc. Show them that they've most likely liked certain pieces of "classical" music without even knowing they did. Use various movie soundtracks, Harry Potter, Star Wars/Trek, show them that orchestral music isn't necessarily stuffy, and dead. Then you might have a better chance of getting them to listen to the heavier pieces. The Los Angeles Symphony Orchestra has been releasing shorts on RUclips, that animate some of the various instruments, mostly the percussion section. They're great teaching tools. Long enough to make their point, and short enough to keep younger people's attention. Another good thing are these musical mash ups. Various pieces, genres, styles, and composers. I find them very entertaining.
Tremendous Performance of one of the world,s greatest composed symphonies of all time and composed by maybe the greatest composer of symphonies in history, Mahler !!!!!
Erin Wall died a little over a year after this performance. So her cancer was already likely metastasizing even here. :-( A beautiful, magnificent artist. One of the clearest, purest, most shining upper registers I have ever heard.
Je n'étais pas très sensible à Mahler mais avec Franz Welser Most tout devient évident . C'est du grand art il vit tellement l'instant que les larmes viennent chez lui comme chez ceux qui écoute ou le regarde cet homme est exceptionnel car il arrive a donner aux musiciens une telle force que le résultat est inouï. Merci Monsieur
@@steveeliscu1254 Just a guess on my part, but when the camera started panning upwards to the dark opening above the organ pipes, I believe that the horns were in that space. 😁
That was the concert where I was enchanted by the voice of Peter Mattei who sang Pater Ecstaticus so beautifully. It is indeed heart-breaking to read that the soprano who was in this concert has passed away at such a young age.
THIS SYMPHONY 8 MAHLER SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO ERIN WALL SOPRANO WHAT A TALENTED AND CERTAINLY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN KEEP SINGING IN HEAVEN MAKE THEM HAPPY JUST LIKE YOU MADE US HAPPY
I treasure this epic performance of Mahler Eight alongside that of the live one of Riccardo Chailly with the Leipzig Gewandhaus. Erin Wall (RIP) is glorious here with her voice soaring to high heaven throughout!
Attached is the entire libretto for the 8th Mahler - this performance is the finale "chorus mysticus" shown at the very end of the attached. Hope you can open.
It's Goethe, so it's poetic German. It is to German what Shakespeare is to English. Here's a very plodding, non- poetic translation. "All things transitory are only an allegory. That which is inadequate will be addressed at this event. The indescribable will be achieved. The eternal feminine will lead us ever onward". In German: "alles vergaengliche ist nur ein gleichnis; das unzulaenglich, hier wird's ereignis; das unbeschreibliche, hier ist's getan; das ewig Weibliche, zieht uns hinan". That's pretty close.
I have it on the Highest Authority or near the Highest Authority because the communique was from Archangel Michael and it was this: There will be times when Yahweh is not available...evidently He has been asked to inspire a music composer named Gustav Mahler who is composing a symphony that will, with Yahweh's help, reach for the Heavens and I have, as is my privilege, looked to the future and I have to say God and Gustav have succeeded!
Yes, well, it's too bad they didn't have radio broadcasts and take home recordings in those days. Mahler might have single handedly stopped Austro/German bellicose behavior dead in its tracks, and prevented the First World War in the process (and all the other nonsense that came after it).
@@jetglo4001 The offstage brass may be hard to capture on film, but the regular large horn and trumpet section, playing important parts, are not seen. I think some videographers only show trombones because they move more (with slides) and therefore are more interesting to those who only care about action, not music. I've also seen many videos where the trumpets themselves are seen, but never the player's faces.
always gets me a little unsatisfied that the chorus does not come in one very last time in those final measures - i am sure Mahler must have considered it
Some conductors try to give it a sponge-ier, Bruckner like cutoff. Thielemann is one of those. Mahler wrote for a sharp cutoff. You have to admit the tam-tam smashes are pretty spectacular here.
I didnt particularly like this interpretation either but your choice of words such as awful, horrible and disgusting is highly inappropriate and do not belong in an adult forum discussing one of the greatest orchestras in the world, playing one of the the great symphonies by the greatest symphonist in history. You really need to tone it down
What an awful, disgusting and horrible thing to say. Obviously you must be deaf and dumb if can't hear Erin Wall's soprano solo and this world class orchestra. FWM has had an incredible run with the Cleveland Orchestra as well. It's your loss.
How wonderful--and heartbreaking--to see soprano Erin Wall who died last week at age 44. RIP, dear Erin. (far left, blue dress)
OMG 💔
Oh no!
Just had my heartbroken.
Erin Wall was a magnificent artist. She was THE "go-to" girl for the almost impossibly difficult "pole position" role of Soprano #1 in this symphony, literally ALL over the world, for almost two decades. I will NEVER forget both she, and Elza van den Heever (singing soprano #2) openly weeping by the end of this magnificent symphony when it was done under Tilson Thomas with the SFO, so overcome were they by the beauty and magnificence of it all.
RIP
One of the most amazing finale ever composed. Mahler's 2nd is good too.
Mahler: THE composer for our times: hope, joy, profound grief and despair. It's all there.
What I like most about him: the range, depth and clarity of the emotions he expressed.
Mahler's music is Heavenly
MY GOD!!! I just read about the passing of Erin Wall. In the finale of the Mahler 8 she is beyond magnificent!!!
5:02
It looks like the conductor fighting back tears
I think it would be hard not to. I've been to concerts in that hall. The amplitude of Mahler 8 in there must have been just unbelievable. And when you're up on the conductor's podium, all that sound is in your face. Think about it: in addition to an enlarged brass section, you have a fortissimo roll happening in the bass drum and both sets of timpani. In addition, the pipe organ is roaring like a 727 on takeoff. With those huge tam-tam smashes (gong) thrown in for good measure, it must have been have overwhelming.
As I'm fighting back yawns.
Makes me cry,beautiful
In memoriam Erin Wall-soprano. (4 November 1975 - 8 October 2020).
This, together with Mahler 3, is one of those things you only want to hear maybe once a decade. True treasures cannot be indulged too much.
I would agree with you if you included the Resurrection!
@@hillcresthiker Wo what about starting with No.1 that does it for me every time!!!!!
I believe in just the opposite! You must embrace your treasures as much as you can! BTW please include in your list his 5th and 9th!
Reall🤣y?!
I get that feeling a bit, mostly it's when I remember a piece of music that was so good it almost seems too good to be true, and inflated by memory, so I am hesitant to return and be let down haha
Every young person should listen to the joy of choral and classical orchestra combined in a mindful and fully enjoyed masterpiece by Mahler.
Agreed but here in the U.S. most kids won't give five minutes of their time nor could they care less EITHER!
@Scott Miller , I disagree with you. You can't just plop them down and expect them to listen to a full Mahler symphony, you have to build up to it.
When I was in college, I took music 101, to fill an elective requirement. Now I already liked orchestral music, so I figured great this'll be easy.
What I wasn't ready for was to hear Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin. As I listened to other genres, I grew to appreciate them as well.
The same approach might work with young people. Don't slam them with the big guns right away. Start slowly with pieces they've already heard, but didn't know they had.
O Fortuna, from Carmina Burana, the finale of the 1812 Overture, the final movement of the William Tell Overture, Ode to Joy, the Canon in D, maybe even What's Opera Doc.
Show them that they've most likely liked certain pieces of "classical" music without even knowing they did.
Use various movie soundtracks, Harry Potter, Star Wars/Trek, show them that orchestral music isn't necessarily stuffy, and dead.
Then you might have a better chance of getting them to listen to the heavier pieces.
The Los Angeles Symphony Orchestra has been releasing shorts on RUclips, that animate some of the various instruments, mostly the percussion section.
They're great teaching tools. Long enough to make their point, and short enough to keep younger people's attention.
Another good thing are these musical mash ups. Various pieces, genres, styles, and composers. I find them very entertaining.
Mahler’s music is even hard for lots of adults to understand.
Tremendous Performance of one of the world,s greatest composed symphonies of all time and composed by maybe the greatest composer of symphonies in history, Mahler !!!!!
Remove the "maybe" and I'll be right with you
@@hillcresthiker I removed the maybe, in my opinion and hopefully many others, Mahler was the Best!!!!!
Also I am hooked on his first no. 1 titan symphony it's my favorite but it has to end with a Boom Boom and that does it for me every time oh Yeah!!!!!
At 78, I have become a believer of that, also. Epic composer for epic and world-shaking times!
That balcony looks and sounds like perfect to this piece.
Eine unglaubliche gute Aufführung! Sie berührt, sie führt zu den Fragen unseres Daseins.❤
meiner Meinung nach die beste, die es auf RUclips gibt! Die Tempi sind genau richtig.
Erin Wall died a little over a year after this performance. So her cancer was already likely metastasizing even here. :-(
A beautiful, magnificent artist. One of the clearest, purest, most shining upper registers I have ever heard.
Monumental achievements….the composition of this piece and the work and expertise of hundreds of people to bring it to life!
SUBLIME MUSIC , I LOVE THIS MUSIC , I LOVE MAHLER ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ from Spain
Je n'étais pas très sensible à Mahler mais avec Franz Welser Most tout devient évident . C'est du grand art il vit tellement l'instant que les larmes viennent chez lui comme chez ceux qui écoute ou le regarde cet homme est exceptionnel car il arrive a donner aux musiciens une telle force que le résultat est inouï. Merci Monsieur
Most est un peu trop "legato" à mon goût dans ses interprétations, bien que cette finale de Mahler soit une exception.
At 4:04 we hear the fantastic sounds of the off stage brass in a nice stately slower tempo . BRAVO
Were they actually there in person? No camera shot!
@@steveeliscu1254 Just a guess on my part, but when the camera started panning upwards to the dark opening above the organ pipes, I believe that the horns were in that space. 😁
Il capolavoro di MAHLER....Una cosa straordinaria, avanti nel tempo....
I'm hopeful that this will one day be issued on a DVD/BluRay.
Or at least CD! This is amazing.
That was the concert where I was enchanted by the voice of Peter Mattei who sang Pater Ecstaticus so beautifully. It is indeed heart-breaking to read that the soprano who was in this concert has passed away at such a young age.
Wonderful! Would love to have heard this performance in person!
Thank you for my hears... finally a version where the alto reach the notes with tune and without any break in the phrase...
Thank you for uploading!!! I really really wanna to listen this video🙏❤️
Dirigieren ohne Phantasie und berühmt sein - das ist die wahre Kunst.
:O)))
THIS SYMPHONY 8 MAHLER SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO ERIN WALL SOPRANO WHAT A TALENTED AND CERTAINLY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN KEEP SINGING IN HEAVEN MAKE THEM HAPPY JUST LIKE YOU MADE US HAPPY
I treasure this epic performance of Mahler Eight alongside that of the live one of Riccardo Chailly with the Leipzig Gewandhaus. Erin Wall (RIP) is glorious here with her voice soaring to high heaven throughout!
That kid looking at the trombones in terror at the 4:30 mark.
Well,what is there to say? Going to heaven without the complications 😊
Als hätte Gustav Mahler selbst dirigiert
Wie wahr!!!
Somptueux 💕💕💕
When Mahler himself rose up from his grave and conducted the orchestra
this is by far my favourite classical piece. for my liking this ending should be a little faster, not sure if im alone on this :)
RIP Erin Wall
Can we see this again?
Marvelous
amazing
BRAVO
The conductor LOOKS like Gustav Mahler.
Nonsense
Nope
But none of the talent!
Leider ist auf TAKT 1 das komplette Konzert nicht abzurufen. Das soll noch einer verstehen...gottseidank nur auf Probe Mitglied...
RUclips
the conductor even look like mahler
👏👏👏👏👏
It is true....God was looking over Mahler's shoulder.
I would die to know the meaning of what they are singing, if anybody knows about the libretto please let me know!
Attached is the entire libretto for the 8th Mahler - this performance is the finale "chorus mysticus" shown at the very end of the attached. Hope you can open.
It's Goethe, so it's poetic German. It is to German what Shakespeare is to English. Here's a very plodding, non- poetic translation. "All things transitory are only an allegory. That which is inadequate will be addressed at this event. The indescribable will be achieved. The eternal feminine will lead us ever onward". In German: "alles vergaengliche ist nur ein gleichnis; das unzulaenglich, hier wird's ereignis; das unbeschreibliche, hier ist's getan; das ewig Weibliche, zieht uns hinan". That's pretty close.
@@barryguerrero7652 thank you so much!!!
Ends it way too soon and loses all the majesty
Ist das die Symphonie der Tausend?
Yes!
Ich habe keine worte
Mil sous no hi són. Però ho sembla.
I have it on the Highest Authority or near the Highest Authority because the communique was from Archangel Michael and it was this: There will be times when Yahweh is not available...evidently He has been asked to inspire a music composer named Gustav Mahler who is composing a symphony that will, with Yahweh's help, reach for the Heavens and I have, as is my privilege, looked to the future and I have to say God and Gustav have succeeded!
Yes, well, it's too bad they didn't have radio broadcasts and take home recordings in those days. Mahler might have single handedly stopped Austro/German bellicose behavior dead in its tracks, and prevented the First World War in the process (and all the other nonsense that came after it).
Look at 2:04 the conductor's dissatisfaction with the high pitch (out of tune) of the singer to the left of the colleague in blue.
Why is he staring at the score? No eye contact with the performers. He really is Frankly Worst than Most.
So...no trumpets or horns there and no offstage brass. I guess those parts were pre-recorded and played back on speakers.
I believe that they're in the balcony above the organ. It's just too dark to see them. The conductor even is pointing to them at one point.
@@jetglo4001 The offstage brass may be hard to capture on film, but the regular large horn and trumpet section, playing important parts, are not seen. I think some videographers only show trombones because they move more (with slides) and therefore are more interesting to those who only care about action, not music. I've also seen many videos where the trumpets themselves are seen, but never the player's faces.
always gets me a little unsatisfied that the chorus does not come in one very last time in those final measures - i am sure Mahler must have considered it
Mm Mal ein wenig
Damn that was amazing and they messed up the last note 😢😢😢😢😢😢 but brilliant nonetheless…damn
Some conductors try to give it a sponge-ier, Bruckner like cutoff. Thielemann is one of those. Mahler wrote for a sharp cutoff. You have to admit the tam-tam smashes are pretty spectacular here.
TV director is terrible
A shame that his style of conducting kind of prohibits everything from staying exactly together.
AWFUL, DISGUSTING, HORRIBLE VERSION AND VOICES.
I didnt particularly like this interpretation either but your choice of words such as awful, horrible and disgusting is highly inappropriate and do not belong in an adult forum discussing one of the greatest orchestras in the world, playing one of the the great symphonies by the greatest symphonist in history. You really need to tone it down
Ma cosa scrivi? Forse dormi e non ti rendi conto di ciò che il direttore è riuscito a fare. Ha reso la sinfonia in modo perfetto. Taci
Schweig dich! Mahler ist mein Held! Ich liebe fast jede Aufnahme seiner Sinfonien
@@ashleythorpe7933 na und
What an awful, disgusting and horrible thing to say. Obviously you must be deaf and dumb if can't hear Erin Wall's soprano solo and this world class orchestra. FWM has had an incredible run with the Cleveland Orchestra as well. It's your loss.