Mahler, Symphony No.8 (Finale) - Franz Welser Möst / Vienna Philharmonic

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
  • ''Alles vergängliche ist nur ein gleichnis'' - Finale
    Gustav Mahler - VIII. Symphonie
    Dirigent: Franz Welser-Möst
    Orchester: Wiener Philharmoniker
    Chöre:
    Wiener Sängerknaben
    Wiener Singverein
    Wiener Singakademie
    Wiener Konzerthaus, Mai 2019

Комментарии • 105

  • @carlgrapentine
    @carlgrapentine 4 года назад +124

    How wonderful--and heartbreaking--to see soprano Erin Wall who died last week at age 44. RIP, dear Erin. (far left, blue dress)

    • @DjRubThePianist
      @DjRubThePianist  4 года назад +14

      OMG 💔

    • @cieszewskimariusz
      @cieszewskimariusz 2 года назад +4

      Oh no!

    • @nickcrown7566
      @nickcrown7566 2 года назад +2

      Just had my heartbroken.

    • @stevielagan1948
      @stevielagan1948 2 года назад +9

      Erin Wall was a magnificent artist. She was THE "go-to" girl for the almost impossibly difficult "pole position" role of Soprano #1 in this symphony, literally ALL over the world, for almost two decades. I will NEVER forget both she, and Elza van den Heever (singing soprano #2) openly weeping by the end of this magnificent symphony when it was done under Tilson Thomas with the SFO, so overcome were they by the beauty and magnificence of it all.

    • @matheuslino1651
      @matheuslino1651 Год назад

      RIP

  • @Richard-b5r9v
    @Richard-b5r9v Год назад +14

    Mahler's music is Heavenly

  • @TheLastOfTheFinest80
    @TheLastOfTheFinest80 3 года назад +34

    5:02
    It looks like the conductor fighting back tears

    • @barryguerrero7652
      @barryguerrero7652 3 года назад +18

      I think it would be hard not to. I've been to concerts in that hall. The amplitude of Mahler 8 in there must have been just unbelievable. And when you're up on the conductor's podium, all that sound is in your face. Think about it: in addition to an enlarged brass section, you have a fortissimo roll happening in the bass drum and both sets of timpani. In addition, the pipe organ is roaring like a 727 on takeoff. With those huge tam-tam smashes (gong) thrown in for good measure, it must have been have overwhelming.

    • @bobschaaf2549
      @bobschaaf2549 4 месяца назад

      As I'm fighting back yawns.

  • @mazelisgroup
    @mazelisgroup 2 года назад +13

    In memoriam Erin Wall-soprano. (4 November 1975 - 8 October 2020).

  • @stillstanding6031
    @stillstanding6031 4 месяца назад +7

    Mahler: THE composer for our times: hope, joy, profound grief and despair. It's all there.

    • @albertgerheim4149
      @albertgerheim4149 Месяц назад

      What I like most about him: the range, depth and clarity of the emotions he expressed.

  • @jingweiyu3568
    @jingweiyu3568 2 года назад +37

    This, together with Mahler 3, is one of those things you only want to hear maybe once a decade. True treasures cannot be indulged too much.

    • @hillcresthiker
      @hillcresthiker 2 года назад +3

      I would agree with you if you included the Resurrection!

    • @scottmiller6495
      @scottmiller6495 2 года назад +2

      @@hillcresthiker Wo what about starting with No.1 that does it for me every time!!!!!

    • @salehsaleh3217
      @salehsaleh3217 Год назад +1

      I believe in just the opposite! You must embrace your treasures as much as you can! BTW please include in your list his 5th and 9th!

    • @grahamwilliams8926
      @grahamwilliams8926 Год назад

      Reall🤣y?!

    • @jjgeoffphhcinkkllee
      @jjgeoffphhcinkkllee Год назад

      I get that feeling a bit, mostly it's when I remember a piece of music that was so good it almost seems too good to be true, and inflated by memory, so I am hesitant to return and be let down haha

  • @helmuthuber766
    @helmuthuber766 8 месяцев назад +3

    Eine unglaubliche gute Aufführung! Sie berührt, sie führt zu den Fragen unseres Daseins.❤

    • @enejfuerst09
      @enejfuerst09 8 месяцев назад

      meiner Meinung nach die beste, die es auf RUclips gibt! Die Tempi sind genau richtig.

  • @andydavis981
    @andydavis981 3 года назад +20

    Every young person should listen to the joy of choral and classical orchestra combined in a mindful and fully enjoyed masterpiece by Mahler.

    • @scottmiller6495
      @scottmiller6495 2 года назад +2

      Agreed but here in the U.S. most kids won't give five minutes of their time nor could they care less EITHER!

    • @philiphoel4290
      @philiphoel4290 Год назад +1

      @Scott Miller , I disagree with you. You can't just plop them down and expect them to listen to a full Mahler symphony, you have to build up to it.
      When I was in college, I took music 101, to fill an elective requirement. Now I already liked orchestral music, so I figured great this'll be easy.
      What I wasn't ready for was to hear Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin. As I listened to other genres, I grew to appreciate them as well.
      The same approach might work with young people. Don't slam them with the big guns right away. Start slowly with pieces they've already heard, but didn't know they had.
      O Fortuna, from Carmina Burana, the finale of the 1812 Overture, the final movement of the William Tell Overture, Ode to Joy, the Canon in D, maybe even What's Opera Doc.
      Show them that they've most likely liked certain pieces of "classical" music without even knowing they did.
      Use various movie soundtracks, Harry Potter, Star Wars/Trek, show them that orchestral music isn't necessarily stuffy, and dead.
      Then you might have a better chance of getting them to listen to the heavier pieces.
      The Los Angeles Symphony Orchestra has been releasing shorts on RUclips, that animate some of the various instruments, mostly the percussion section.
      They're great teaching tools. Long enough to make their point, and short enough to keep younger people's attention.
      Another good thing are these musical mash ups. Various pieces, genres, styles, and composers. I find them very entertaining.

    • @이상호-l5c1z
      @이상호-l5c1z 8 месяцев назад +1

      Mahler’s music is even hard for lots of adults to understand.

  • @jungjinbaek
    @jungjinbaek 2 года назад +5

    That balcony looks and sounds like perfect to this piece.

  • @pedropozo6913
    @pedropozo6913 Год назад +4

    SUBLIME MUSIC , I LOVE THIS MUSIC , I LOVE MAHLER ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ from Spain

  • @TC.....
    @TC..... День назад

    One of the most amazing finale ever composed. Mahler's 2nd is good too.

  • @stevielagan1948
    @stevielagan1948 2 года назад +8

    Erin Wall died a little over a year after this performance. So her cancer was already likely metastasizing even here. :-(
    A beautiful, magnificent artist. One of the clearest, purest, most shining upper registers I have ever heard.

  • @rinosquarzoni9438
    @rinosquarzoni9438 2 года назад +5

    Il capolavoro di MAHLER....Una cosa straordinaria, avanti nel tempo....

  • @richardwilliams473
    @richardwilliams473 2 года назад +11

    At 4:04 we hear the fantastic sounds of the off stage brass in a nice stately slower tempo . BRAVO

    • @steveeliscu1254
      @steveeliscu1254 Год назад

      Were they actually there in person? No camera shot!

    • @jetglo4001
      @jetglo4001 Год назад +1

      @@steveeliscu1254 Just a guess on my part, but when the camera started panning upwards to the dark opening above the organ pipes, I believe that the horns were in that space. 😁

  • @cemoi09
    @cemoi09 3 года назад +8

    Je n'étais pas très sensible à Mahler mais avec Franz Welser Most tout devient évident . C'est du grand art il vit tellement l'instant que les larmes viennent chez lui comme chez ceux qui écoute ou le regarde cet homme est exceptionnel car il arrive a donner aux musiciens une telle force que le résultat est inouï. Merci Monsieur

    • @francislevesque4120
      @francislevesque4120 Год назад

      Most est un peu trop "legato" à mon goût dans ses interprétations, bien que cette finale de Mahler soit une exception.

  • @barryguerrero7652
    @barryguerrero7652 3 года назад +13

    I'm hopeful that this will one day be issued on a DVD/BluRay.

    • @ewilson712
      @ewilson712 3 года назад

      Or at least CD! This is amazing.

  • @grahamwilliams8926
    @grahamwilliams8926 Год назад +3

    Well,what is there to say? Going to heaven without the complications 😊

  • @welintomgabriel5546
    @welintomgabriel5546 Год назад +3

    Makes me cry,beautiful

  • @carolinem8524
    @carolinem8524 4 года назад +7

    That was the concert where I was enchanted by the voice of Peter Mattei who sang Pater Ecstaticus so beautifully. It is indeed heart-breaking to read that the soprano who was in this concert has passed away at such a young age.

  • @doryan19861986
    @doryan19861986 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for my hears... finally a version where the alto reach the notes with tune and without any break in the phrase...

  • @scottmiller6495
    @scottmiller6495 2 года назад +6

    Tremendous Performance of one of the world,s greatest composed symphonies of all time and composed by maybe the greatest composer of symphonies in history, Mahler !!!!!

    • @hillcresthiker
      @hillcresthiker 2 года назад +2

      Remove the "maybe" and I'll be right with you

    • @scottmiller6495
      @scottmiller6495 2 года назад +4

      @@hillcresthiker I removed the maybe, in my opinion and hopefully many others, Mahler was the Best!!!!!

    • @scottmiller6495
      @scottmiller6495 2 года назад +1

      Also I am hooked on his first no. 1 titan symphony it's my favorite but it has to end with a Boom Boom and that does it for me every time oh Yeah!!!!!

    • @stillstanding6031
      @stillstanding6031 4 месяца назад +1

      At 78, I have become a believer of that, also. Epic composer for epic and world-shaking times!

  • @uxvellda1112
    @uxvellda1112 Год назад +5

    When Mahler himself rose up from his grave and conducted the orchestra

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 8 месяцев назад +5

    Monumental achievements….the composition of this piece and the work and expertise of hundreds of people to bring it to life!

  • @terryslade6240
    @terryslade6240 2 года назад +7

    Wonderful! Would love to have heard this performance in person!

  • @tvark75
    @tvark75 3 года назад +4

    Dirigieren ohne Phantasie und berühmt sein - das ist die wahre Kunst.

  • @akiraj.nabeshima4926
    @akiraj.nabeshima4926 4 года назад +7

    Thank you for uploading!!! I really really wanna to listen this video🙏❤️

  • @301250
    @301250 Год назад +2

    I treasure this epic performance of Mahler Eight alongside that of the live one of Riccardo Chailly with the Leipzig Gewandhaus. Erin Wall (RIP) is glorious here with her voice soaring to high heaven throughout!

  • @jonlae
    @jonlae 21 день назад

    this is by far my favourite classical piece. for my liking this ending should be a little faster, not sure if im alone on this :)

  • @xxxx-gy1lr
    @xxxx-gy1lr 4 года назад +52

    Als hätte Gustav Mahler selbst dirigiert

  • @areyounatz
    @areyounatz 3 месяца назад +1

    RIP Erin Wall

  • @loudlong
    @loudlong Год назад +1

    That kid looking at the trombones in terror at the 4:30 mark.

  • @fiends8908
    @fiends8908 3 года назад +14

    The conductor LOOKS like Gustav Mahler.

  • @alicebui5285
    @alicebui5285 4 года назад +2

    Somptueux 💕💕💕

  • @stephanfrank1253
    @stephanfrank1253 3 года назад +2

    Can we see this again?

  • @michelekaiser3201
    @michelekaiser3201 2 года назад +2

    Marvelous

  • @daveenyart
    @daveenyart 8 месяцев назад +1

    It is true....God was looking over Mahler's shoulder.

  • @alberalonso7702
    @alberalonso7702 Год назад +1

    amazing

  • @vusumzisojada3454
    @vusumzisojada3454 Год назад +1

    BRAVO

  • @alexanfadel
    @alexanfadel 2 года назад +4

    the conductor even look like mahler

  • @franzthomasbernhard
    @franzthomasbernhard 3 года назад +2

    Leider ist auf TAKT 1 das komplette Konzert nicht abzurufen. Das soll noch einer verstehen...gottseidank nur auf Probe Mitglied...

  • @enriconotteborg7642
    @enriconotteborg7642 2 года назад +2

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @hillcresthiker
    @hillcresthiker 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ends it way too soon and loses all the majesty

  • @jordipanadesribera6890
    @jordipanadesribera6890 2 года назад +1

    Mil sous no hi són. Però ho sembla.

  • @pepepoullet4683
    @pepepoullet4683 2 года назад +1

    I would die to know the meaning of what they are singing, if anybody knows about the libretto please let me know!

    • @cameronnicolson3097
      @cameronnicolson3097 2 года назад

      Attached is the entire libretto for the 8th Mahler - this performance is the finale "chorus mysticus" shown at the very end of the attached. Hope you can open.

    • @barryguerrero7652
      @barryguerrero7652 2 года назад +1

      It's Goethe, so it's poetic German. It is to German what Shakespeare is to English. Here's a very plodding, non- poetic translation. "All things transitory are only an allegory. That which is inadequate will be addressed at this event. The indescribable will be achieved. The eternal feminine will lead us ever onward". In German: "alles vergaengliche ist nur ein gleichnis; das unzulaenglich, hier wird's ereignis; das unbeschreibliche, hier ist's getan; das ewig Weibliche, zieht uns hinan". That's pretty close.

    • @pepepoullet4683
      @pepepoullet4683 2 года назад

      @@barryguerrero7652 thank you so much!!!

  • @Christian-tw7me
    @Christian-tw7me 3 года назад +1

    Ist das die Symphonie der Tausend?

  • @Adam_Barbato_Shoufani
    @Adam_Barbato_Shoufani 2 года назад +3

    Ich habe keine worte

  • @VallaMusic
    @VallaMusic 2 года назад

    always gets me a little unsatisfied that the chorus does not come in one very last time in those final measures - i am sure Mahler must have considered it

  • @matthewbarry6229
    @matthewbarry6229 Год назад

    Damn that was amazing and they messed up the last note 😢😢😢😢😢😢 but brilliant nonetheless…damn

    • @barryguerrero6480
      @barryguerrero6480 Год назад

      Some conductors try to give it a sponge-ier, Bruckner like cutoff. Thielemann is one of those. Mahler wrote for a sharp cutoff. You have to admit the tam-tam smashes are pretty spectacular here.

  • @johncrawford009
    @johncrawford009 3 года назад +1

    I have it on the Highest Authority or near the Highest Authority because the communique was from Archangel Michael and it was this: There will be times when Yahweh is not available...evidently He has been asked to inspire a music composer named Gustav Mahler who is composing a symphony that will, with Yahweh's help, reach for the Heavens and I have, as is my privilege, looked to the future and I have to say God and Gustav have succeeded!

    • @barryguerrero7652
      @barryguerrero7652 3 года назад

      Yes, well, it's too bad they didn't have radio broadcasts and take home recordings in those days. Mahler might have single handedly stopped Austro/German bellicose behavior dead in its tracks, and prevented the First World War in the process (and all the other nonsense that came after it).

  • @steveeliscu1254
    @steveeliscu1254 Год назад

    So...no trumpets or horns there and no offstage brass. I guess those parts were pre-recorded and played back on speakers.

    • @jetglo4001
      @jetglo4001 Год назад

      I believe that they're in the balcony above the organ. It's just too dark to see them. The conductor even is pointing to them at one point.

    • @steveeliscu1254
      @steveeliscu1254 Год назад

      @@jetglo4001 The offstage brass may be hard to capture on film, but the regular large horn and trumpet section, playing important parts, are not seen. I think some videographers only show trombones because they move more (with slides) and therefore are more interesting to those who only care about action, not music. I've also seen many videos where the trumpets themselves are seen, but never the player's faces.

  • @hija4lw709
    @hija4lw709 2 года назад

    Mm Mal ein wenig

  • @francesred
    @francesred 2 года назад

    Look at 2:04 the conductor's dissatisfaction with the high pitch (out of tune) of the singer to the left of the colleague in blue.

  • @Sinthora97
    @Sinthora97 Год назад +1

    A shame that his style of conducting kind of prohibits everything from staying exactly together.

  • @anonymoussource701
    @anonymoussource701 3 месяца назад

    Why is he staring at the score? No eye contact with the performers. He really is Frankly Worst than Most.

  • @jackcrane7853
    @jackcrane7853 2 года назад +1

    AWFUL, DISGUSTING, HORRIBLE VERSION AND VOICES.

    • @hillcresthiker
      @hillcresthiker 2 года назад +6

      I didnt particularly like this interpretation either but your choice of words such as awful, horrible and disgusting is highly inappropriate and do not belong in an adult forum discussing one of the greatest orchestras in the world, playing one of the the great symphonies by the greatest symphonist in history. You really need to tone it down

    • @mariosorbello1221
      @mariosorbello1221 2 года назад +2

      Ma cosa scrivi? Forse dormi e non ti rendi conto di ciò che il direttore è riuscito a fare. Ha reso la sinfonia in modo perfetto. Taci

    • @ashleythorpe7933
      @ashleythorpe7933 Год назад +3

      Schweig dich! Mahler ist mein Held! Ich liebe fast jede Aufnahme seiner Sinfonien

    • @jackcrane7853
      @jackcrane7853 Год назад +1

      @@ashleythorpe7933 na und

    • @scottrosenthal3437
      @scottrosenthal3437 День назад

      What an awful, disgusting and horrible thing to say. Obviously you must be deaf and dumb if can't hear Erin Wall's soprano solo and this world class orchestra. FWM has had an incredible run with the Cleveland Orchestra as well. It's your loss.