@@butternuts3656 liberals aren't communists you special child. Liberals want social equality while communism is simply putting the means of production in the hands of the workers
As for the deaths constantly quoted under Mao, the exaggerate claims of deaths from starvation were not increased but decreased from the deaths *before* Mao’s reforms owing to Western imperialist interference with China prior to 1950. Look up life expectancy data from 1950 to 1970, and multiply that through the large population. Mao brought live expectancy from 45 to 70 over his career, literacy from 10% to 80%. I sympathize with you as I used to have similar notion but after a lot of work realized I was completely brainwashed within Australia. Upon a lot of research it turns out that Mao did exceedingly more for the people of China than he caused problems and without Mao and their liberation of China from capitalists in the early 1950s, the whole county of China would have followed a path similar to India or Indonesia which both had a similar (even slightly better) initial conditions. Now China has eliminated poverty and has far better health care, higher literacy, economic mobility and business than India or Indonesia and is even catching up to the West which it was exceedingly behind in 1950s when Britain was still bribing and calling the shots over there.
But you didn't even mention the Four Pests Campaign, which was one of the very first Great Leap Forward initiatives. Many consider the slaughter of the sparrows to be one of the greatest mistakes in all of history...
Authoritarian dictatorships are much the same - whether communist, capitalist, religious - whatever the basic ideology may be. There's often a cult of the leader, suppression of free speech, a targeted 'other', etc. Mao wasn't that different than Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Pinochet, etc.
Your thinking about totalitarian dictatorships. Modern China is a 1 party authoritarisn state but xi Jinping isn't the only person with power within the party. Stalin killed anyone with a power base and mao was by far the most powerful man in China from declaration of the PRC
@@grandtheftavocado Yes, they are the current form of Lenin's "Useful Idiots", with every one of them thinking they will be in the ruling elite, a notion that makes mockery of supposed equality in the first place.
I love your videos Simon. I always have a thirst for worldwide knowledge and your channels always fill that. Very informative and always entertaining. Keep it up chap 👍
What makes me feel sick is that nowadays there are still people claiming that Mao only wanted to establish a powerful country and those millions and millions of people perished under his regime were nothing but the "price" for ambitious exploration.
No, the problem is rather that the deaths are anti-communist propaganda. The figures of 40 or 20 million starving are just western propaganda. There is no credible source for those figures but they are just trumpeted because we were unable to take control of China. The phrase “Loss of China”’ was in our newspapers frequently in the 1950s, which is telling, as it assumes you have to own something before you can lose it. Regarding deaths, look up the increase in life expectancy from 1950 until 1978 - it rose dramatically from Mao’s reforms, so he saved lives almost radically. If you think about it you have to respect for China successfully fending of western imperialism prior to 1948, a profoundly difficult achievement. Look at the result of the other major regions that failed in this regard (Africa, India, even aboriginal Australia, etc). Respect to Mao and vast bulk of the ordinary population for protecting China from outside interference. Mao also did the forgotten but crucial work of rural health development programmes saving 100 million lives and modernizing architecture which set the conditions to make the industrialisation that followed being possible. Life span increased dramatically, rights of females and literacy increased from 10% to 90% under Mao. Rather than cherry picking setbacks give respect where respect is due.
It's incredible, terrifying really, that one person could be so capable of so much evil. What's sad is that three of the most well none people in the world (Hitler, Stalin, & Mao) and they were worshiped as gods by the very people that they slaughtered.
That's the risk you ALWAYS run with a large, powerful, unchallengable government power calling the shots. One of many reasons I'll NEVER trust a Democrat.
@@ruturajshiralkar5566 Don't forget Biden, Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. They'd all be Stalin once they discover a way to keep power without having to worry about silly things like winning free, fair, trustworthy and transparent elections, which 2020 was NOT!
I lived in Shanghai for 4 years and felt surprised at how the people there still revere him as a great leader--they say this amongst themselves, in local dialects, not 'to Westerners' specifically. Even the Shanghainese, who endured the worst of the Cultural Revolution, speak of him with reverence and pride...
Do you know why? This also occurred in ex ussr or russia. People are FORCED to SPY on each other. In practice no one knows who is a SPY. Many such spies attend each gathering, meeting even party meetings, ceremonies etc. They ALWAYS report to their bosses separately. So if anybody says anything bad about the leader atleast one SPY will report it. You may never know WHO the spy is. That is all. Retribution will be torture or labour camp or murders. Result is this. The western people were followed apparently by chance by natives AND report everything. If they hide anything the other spies will expose this spy. Result, the same. Such TIGHT control over each person naturally results in "complete, total" LOYALTY. Or the family is killed or deported.
@@benmmbk765 We lived in Kazakhstan for 3 years too, and it was WAY more obvious there--we were actively followed and monitored online as well. The cops in KZ would brazenly target Westerners walking or driving, pull you aside, then extort anywhere from $40-$80 to 'not write you a ticket' for whatever imaginary infraction they were about to stick to you. :P
Look no further than Venezuela. Unfortunately. I feel deeply sorry for them. Those who could and still can manage to flee to the north of Brazil. Their people now live in a prison supported by the likes of Cuba and the Iranians.
Strange that Hitler gets a bad rap, rightfully so, but this guy eclipsed his death toll so much yet most people on the street haven't even heard of him and his atrocities. Why might that be?
What about the appox. 30 million Stalin was responsible for. White like us. The reason is: Communism/Socialims spring from the far left. Media and academia have been left for decades, and are now so far left, they've left most of us behind. Lefties are embarrassed about Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot. They out-Hitlered Hitler by leaps and bounds. @@CarFreeSegnitz
Hitler lost the war. Losers are inevitably demonized as they can't defend themselves what with them being dead and all. Commies still have armies and bombs to hide their crimes behind.
Bonus fact about the black and white cat-thing: He was talking about the economy and the Chinese market, what he meant was choosing a planned economy or a market economy didn't really matter, as long as the result was prosperity for China
Xi's biggest mistake is to ignore succession planning. He will inevitably decline and begin to lose his grip on all of China's issues. The vacuum he's leaving will cause in-fighting and instability. Pretty quickly the CCP will factionalize and start steering bits of the Chinese economy in counter-productive ways. The right hand will cease to know what the left hand is doing. He's got to map out the future of China's governance. It will take time for the CCP to get used to whoever Xi chooses as his successor. Xi's successor will need time to demonstrate his/her competance. Leaving the task to the 11th hour will be just as bad as not doing it at all.
@Random Person Xi does go after his people. The first thing he did when he came in power is to run an "anti-corruption" campaign to get rid of people who still followed Xiang. He's in consistent pursue of people under Falung Gong and other groups. One thing he's much better at is advertisement and keeping a "positive'' image. With the new surveillance system he put in, all Chinese live a life in prison forever in China.
My professor has that book! It looked really interesting and I wanted to get my own copy. I might have to put in a request at the bookstore I frequent though. Couldn't find it anywhere.
I know they did at least 1 on Uncle Joe also Lennon and finally Trotsky. Not sure what else there is. Oh wait those were on Biographics channel. Oh well still decent watches
I sent this video to my friend in China and he was so shocked that he hasn't responded to this video, posted on social media, or contacted any of his family for over 2 years!
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@Frredomfromjunkscience - It's NOT wrong, though. Religious zeal is another of the most terrible offenders. The Albanian zealot known as "Mother Teresa" was exposed as a fraud by the late great public intellectual Christopher Hitchens. She kept going, mostly because the world leaders she associated with were frauds as well. When she received a Nobel Prize for her act, she said that the worst danger in the world was contraceptives. She was as as evil as Stalin - although she couldn't have you shot, like Mao or Stalin or Hitler. There's many monsters in the world, today - many in luxurious retirement or protected by the corporate controlled media. Watch at your own risk.
I love the videos you do of “10 brutal realities of life under..” like stalins Soviet Union and Pol Pot’s Cambodia. Maybe make this a series? Genghis Khans Mongolia? Castro’s Cuba? Hitlers Germany?
HRHtheDude I don’t think anyone is pushing for Stalinism, Maoism or a return to Khmer Nationalist communism. Just as capitalism experienced its own growth pains from the times of mercantilism to Laissez-Fair capitalism, through to Keynesianism and social democracy, the discourse around an economic order evolves, matures and is refined and improved over time. We use these failures as lessons which we can learn from, not as a direct blueprint to be used as gospel. Look at, for example, the European shift from support of the USSR to Eurocommunism. While they are both socialist ideologies, one improves upon and critiques the other, learning lessons from its successes and failures. And yes, while the Soviet model was a clear failure in the end, it did, in fact, succeed in many ways.
@@joma5721 What a pathetic rationalization of the horrors of communism. And yes, they were HORRORS, not just "failures" or "growth pains". You wouldn't dare try such revisionism with fascism.
“It didn’t work for everyone else, but we’re different. We’re America! We can make it work here! Now give me all your money and property” - Bernie Sanders supporters.
A historian once calculated that China killed about 600,000,000 of its own people over the centuries , between regional power plays and divers wars, plus all that is noted in this video ,,,,
@@crystalball020 don't strawman my comment please, if that's what I was "suggesting" I would have stated that out right. Please refer to words I used and not what you "think I'm stating" when reading my comment
I’m a New Englander, and I can spot a Southern accent, generally, and a Texan accent, specifically, when I hear it. It doesn’t sound like an accent to you, because you hear it every day and it is normal to you, but we all have different regional eccentricities in our speech.
Matthew Calise yes southern accents differ from state to state and even different counties sometimes. I'm sure it's the same with anywhere else in the US too. SC and NC accent are different. Hell folks in Charleston, SC don't sound like anyone else in the state
I believe Deng said the Sichuan saying about the white and black cats in reference to the opening up of China (1981), starting with Shenzhen and was not purged for that particular reason.
This video is literally a cocktail of western misconceptions about China before 1976 and chinese government propaganda after 1976. This is evident when the guy talks about the Cultural Revolution, calling it "a decade of turmoil and madness", that is the classical depiction made by Deng and the Revisionists. Not only, in fact, did the CR bring democracy to the rural communes and the party, but it also helped reduce corruption and power in the hands of bureaucrats. Also, the economic growth during the Cultural Revolution (except 66-67) was incredibly high, and this can be confirmed by just making a few web searches about the Historical GDP of China. Another "funny" misconception is that reeducation camps were like gulags, which they were not. Reeducation camps weren't always prisons, many were just communes were volounteers (expecially intellectuals) would go to study theory and learn to do manual work. If someone here is interested in learning more about the CR and Maoist China in general I highly suggest reading "Battle For China's Past" by Mobo Gao, truly a great book that changed my point of view on Maoist China.
Thank you for not spreading American lies about Tiananmen Square incident. Europeans are fortunate to realize the benefits of looking east for a better future for all people, not just the rich and spoiled. The future of mankind depends on the benevolent guidance from the Peoples Republic of China.
The notion that he would cull approximately 70 million people is something that I simply cannot fathom. And even then, he still faced crippling over-population within the Country.
The Sino-Soviet Split. After several clashes along their shared border in 1969, the USSR drew up first strike plans to attack the Chinese nuclear facilities at Lop Nur in Xinjiang Province with nuclear weapons, and sent out feelers to the US Government concerning the American reaction to such an event. After being told by Nixon officials that it would initiate World War 3, the Soviets backed away from the idea. In China meanwhile, paranoia had reached such a feverish state that many of the Politburo became convinced that the aircraft carrying Soviet Foreign Minister Alexei Kosygin from the funeral of Ho Chi Min in Hanoi on September 11 1969 to an impromptu meeting with Premier Zhou Enlai in Beijing to defuse the crisis, was actually carrying a nuclear weapon. Mao and most of the Politburo fled Beijing to underground shelters outside the city, leaving Zhou to meet with Kosygin at Beijing airport once his plane had landed.
As for the deaths constantly quoted under Mao, the exaggerate claims of deaths from starvation were not increased but decreased from the deaths *before* Mao’s reforms owing to Western imperialist interference with China prior to 1950. Look up life expectancy data from 1950 to 1970, and multiply that through the large population. Mao brought live expectancy from 45 to 70 over his career, literacy from 10% to 80%. I sympathize with you as I used to have similar notion but after a lot of work realized I was completely brainwashed within Australia. Upon a lot of research it turns out that Mao did exceedingly more for the people of China than he caused problems and without Mao and their liberation of China from capitalists in the early 1950s, the whole county of China would have followed a path similar to India or Indonesia which both had a similar (even slightly better) initial conditions. Now China has eliminated poverty and has far better health care, higher literacy, economic mobility and business than India or Indonesia and is even catching up to the West which it was exceedingly behind in 1950s when Britain was still bribing and calling the shots over there.
He also considered bathing "a waste of time." And since Mao already spent much of his precious time expelling waste due to constipation, it comes as no surprise that he only occasionally gave people's nostrils a reprieve when he went for a swim and toweled off. Li blamed the chairman's deep-seated opposition to soap and water on a "three-bath philosophy" that Chinese peasants allegedly adopted: "A bath at birth, one before marriage and one at death." However, the Independent mentions one other exception that appears in Li's tell-all. The congenitally filthy dictator claimed to clean his genitals by showering himself with women. Or as the chairman crudely put it, "I wash myself in the bodies of my women."
ive read numerous books about this kind of thing. Simon just brushes across the crazy crap China did. no insult meant to Simon. still a very informative video.
One aspect that was neglected in this was the longterm famine, not just during the great leap forward. The issue cane down to basic communism, the farmers were given equal portions of food stamps and money regardless of how hard they worked, this meant that those naturally inclined to take it easy were sometimes punished by the commune, but mostly the rest of the commune would also relax. This lead to even fertile areas being farmed poorly, and when they had to report their harvest, they would “round-up” to please the local party, and when the national party would send their gatherers, they would take all the harvest, presuming that there was more left and never stopping to ask why the ppl looked so famished. So the idea of everyone getting equal share regardless of how hard or efficient meant no one HAD to work hard, and the fear of being subversive lead to no one in chain of command reporting that their constituents were not following doctrine or were lying, thus we get exactly what we get with the current virus: mistakes were made but no one dares say anything, and now they as a whole blame foreigners.
12:30 I've also heard that the biggest comic book superheroes were Supermango and Batmango. They thought Wonder Womango was okay, and Aquamango was stupid.
Right, years ago I had a clerk, she was born during the cultural revolution, she was completely brainwashed. If it weren't tragic it'd be absurdly comical. She was in the States as her husband forced her to leave with him after Tianemen square.
The more I watch these videos, the more I respect the modern Chinese. They started from a stupidly behind starting point and grow into one of the most influential countries in the world.
The success of Stalin - the man who used to boast that he conquered the United States "from the plow to the atomic bomb in just a generation" - compared to Gorbachev's failure shows that a socialist economy is unable to function with a minimum of efficiency without requiring a massive dose of political violence. In an attempt to reform a decadent regime, Gorbachev moved faster with the process of economic opening in the hope of removing the predictable resistance that the Soviet bureaucracy would create to economic reform measures, as thorough proof with the failed attempt. coup d'état in August 1991 - which ended up precipitating the final crisis of socialism and the dissolution of the USSR itself Its Chinese parallel - Deng Xiaoping - adopted a logic diametrically opposed to that of Gorbachev: it prioritized the achievement of economic prosperity (adopting in practice capitalism) precisely to delay any attempt at political opening, as was evident with the acceleration of the economy. reforms after the Tiananmen Square massacre. It is important to note that it was Karl Marx himself who, in his Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, discerned the scenario in which the conditions for a social revolution process are formed, describing it as follows: “At a certain stage in its development, the material productive forces of society contradict existing production relations or - which is only their legal expression - with the property relations in which they have been active until then. From the forms of development of the productive forces, these relations are transformed into fetters of them. So, it is a time of social revolution. ' * By rejecting the pursuit of profit maximization as an instrument to stimulate innovation, socialist countries ended up condemning themselves to obsolescence. Thus, they lost the chance to incorporate the productivity gains made possible by technological progress. That is why the capitalist countries managed to provide a greater rise in the standard of living of their population, even without pursuing the egalitarian ideal. Therefore, until the “final crisis of socialism” (to paraphrase K. Marx's own definitions once again), it was only a matter of time. But religious fanatics do not give up on their faith, even against the indisputable proof of the facts, which completely refute it! * Reproduced according to MARX, K. Preface to the Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, organized by Florestan Fernandes and published under the title K. Marx: Theory and historical process of the social revolution, In Marx & Engels, Great Social Scientists Collection, History, vol. 36. São Paulo: Ática, 1983. p. 232. Commemorative edition of the centenary of Karl Marx's death
As a boy in China my high school world history teacher witnessed a mass execution.
I bet he isn’t a liberal today then !
@@butternuts3656 liberals aren't communists you special child. Liberals want social equality while communism is simply putting the means of production in the hands of the workers
@@cottonball5499 liberals are fascist hypocrites that put emotion over fact.
@@codypatton2859 depends on the situation. Liberalism is still capitalist
@@cottonball5499 you mean put the means of productions in the hand if the ccp
*Mao Zedong:* Hey guys, stop growing crops now.
*Farmers:* Ok, but what are we going to eat?
*Mao Zedong:* Yes.
Fish buddy What to eat? "Soylent Green" only it wasn't a SciFi movie in China!
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So funny!
That never happened
As for the deaths constantly quoted under Mao, the exaggerate claims of deaths from starvation were not increased but decreased from the deaths *before* Mao’s reforms owing to Western imperialist interference with China prior to 1950. Look up life expectancy data from 1950 to 1970, and multiply that through the large population. Mao brought live expectancy from 45 to 70 over his career, literacy from 10% to 80%. I sympathize with you as I used to have similar notion but after a lot of work realized I was completely brainwashed within Australia. Upon a lot of research it turns out that Mao did exceedingly more for the people of China than he caused problems and without Mao and their liberation of China from capitalists in the early 1950s, the whole county of China would have followed a path similar to India or Indonesia which both had a similar (even slightly better) initial conditions. Now China has eliminated poverty and has far better health care, higher literacy, economic mobility and business than India or Indonesia and is even catching up to the West which it was exceedingly behind in 1950s when Britain was still bribing and calling the shots over there.
But you didn't even mention the Four Pests Campaign, which was one of the very first Great Leap Forward initiatives. Many consider the slaughter of the sparrows to be one of the greatest mistakes in all of history...
He’s probably already made a video about it
Authoritarian dictatorships are much the same - whether communist, capitalist, religious - whatever the basic ideology may be. There's often a cult of the leader, suppression of free speech, a targeted 'other', etc. Mao wasn't that different than Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Pinochet, etc.
You forgot Macron.
You dont know the def of Authiritarian Dictator.
@@johnrandolph1989 I know a lot of people don't like Macron but can you at least try to be real.
Your thinking about totalitarian dictatorships. Modern China is a 1 party authoritarisn state but xi Jinping isn't the only person with power within the party. Stalin killed anyone with a power base and mao was by far the most powerful man in China from declaration of the PRC
s p theresa may and angela merkel too.
Communism would be a great idea, as long as I'm the one in charge
Shawn Osborne I'll set up a bot to spread fake news about you. When you're tarred & feather by pitchfork wielding peasants I'll be in charge.
@@CarFreeSegnitz Remember, liberals get the bullet too
anarchism ftw
@@grandtheftavocado Yes, they are the current form of Lenin's "Useful Idiots", with every one of them thinking they will be in the ruling elite, a notion that makes mockery of supposed equality in the first place.
thats what they all said
Alright, can we get a petition going to demand Simon draws a bird?
@Baron Von Grijffenbourg 7:43 for explanation
Yes.
I love your videos Simon. I always have a thirst for worldwide knowledge and your channels always fill that. Very informative and always entertaining. Keep it up chap 👍
Simon filling u up, lol
What makes me feel sick is that nowadays there are still people claiming that Mao only wanted to establish a powerful country and those millions and millions of people perished under his regime were nothing but the "price" for ambitious exploration.
No, the problem is rather that the deaths are anti-communist propaganda. The figures of 40 or 20 million starving are just western propaganda. There is no credible source for those figures but they are just trumpeted because we were unable to take control of China. The phrase “Loss of China”’ was in our newspapers frequently in the 1950s, which is telling, as it assumes you have to own something before you can lose it. Regarding deaths, look up the increase in life expectancy from 1950 until 1978 - it rose dramatically from Mao’s reforms, so he saved lives almost radically. If you think about it you have to respect for China successfully fending of western imperialism prior to 1948, a profoundly difficult achievement. Look at the result of the other major regions that failed in this regard (Africa, India, even aboriginal Australia, etc). Respect to Mao and vast bulk of the ordinary population for protecting China from outside interference. Mao also did the forgotten but crucial work of rural health development programmes saving 100 million lives and modernizing architecture which set the conditions to make the industrialisation that followed being possible. Life span increased dramatically, rights of females and literacy increased from 10% to 90% under Mao. Rather than cherry picking setbacks give respect where respect is due.
The chinese are still doing it today...
It's incredible, terrifying really, that one person could be so capable of so much evil. What's sad is that three of the most well none people in the world (Hitler, Stalin, & Mao) and they were worshiped as gods by the very people that they slaughtered.
Not Hitler.
Stalin was the inspiration for Mao, Castro, Hoxha, Ceusescu, Pol-Pot, Kim family
That's the risk you ALWAYS run with a large, powerful, unchallengable government power calling the shots. One of many reasons I'll NEVER trust a Democrat.
@@ruturajshiralkar5566 Don't forget Biden, Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. They'd all be Stalin once they discover a way to keep power without having to worry about silly things like winning free, fair, trustworthy and transparent elections, which 2020 was NOT!
Hitler could of had a cult of personality but he got met by his own bullet in a bunker but I definitely understand what you say
I lived in Shanghai for 4 years and felt surprised at how the people there still revere him as a great leader--they say this amongst themselves, in local dialects, not 'to Westerners' specifically. Even the Shanghainese, who endured the worst of the Cultural Revolution, speak of him with reverence and pride...
Government of China brainwashed them.
My british history teacher also gave me that impression
Do you know why? This also occurred in ex ussr or russia. People are FORCED to SPY on each other. In practice no one knows who is a SPY. Many such spies attend each gathering, meeting even party meetings, ceremonies etc. They ALWAYS report to their bosses separately. So if anybody says anything bad about the leader atleast one SPY will report it. You may never know WHO the spy is. That is all. Retribution will be torture or labour camp or murders. Result is this.
The western people were followed apparently by chance by natives AND report everything. If they hide anything the other spies will expose this spy. Result, the same. Such TIGHT control over each person naturally results in "complete, total" LOYALTY. Or the family is killed or deported.
Say that again... slowly...
@@benmmbk765 We lived in Kazakhstan for 3 years too, and it was WAY more obvious there--we were actively followed and monitored online as well.
The cops in KZ would brazenly target Westerners walking or driving, pull you aside, then extort anywhere from $40-$80 to 'not write you a ticket' for whatever imaginary infraction they were about to stick to you. :P
*the communist forbidden fruit*
All hail the great mango
ALL HAIL THE MAO-NGO
All hail apple!
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The transitions from the awful historical figures to the advertisements are what I'm here for
The great leap forward down six deep under.
To be repeated in Cambodia under that fun-loving psychopath, "Pol Pot."
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So, what you're saying is, Communism is the solution for the obesity problem?
Look no further than Venezuela. Unfortunately. I feel deeply sorry for them. Those who could and still can manage to flee to the north of Brazil. Their people now live in a prison supported by the likes of Cuba and the Iranians.
Sounds like something I’d here on CNN
Communism is the solution for the PEOPLE a problem. Communism kills.
the scary thing is that Xi the current leader could potentially outrank Mao in nefariousness
I am afraid that you're right; Xi was schooled by money-worshipping minions of the western "democracies."
Strange that Hitler gets a bad rap, rightfully so, but this guy eclipsed his death toll so much yet most people on the street haven't even heard of him and his atrocities. Why might that be?
What about the appox. 30 million Stalin was responsible for. White like us.
The reason is: Communism/Socialims spring from the far left. Media and academia have been left for decades, and are now so far left, they've left most of us behind.
Lefties are embarrassed about Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot. They out-Hitlered Hitler by leaps and bounds. @@CarFreeSegnitz
Hitler lost the war. Losers are inevitably demonized as they can't defend themselves what with them being dead and all.
Commies still have armies and bombs to hide their crimes behind.
@@216trixie agreed 100%
Bc he kept his atrocities in his own country.
Because they make our iPhones
And yet another “peoples revolution”turns into a brutal dictator
Eww! I knew Mao was bad, but I just learned he was atrocious.
Thanks for sharing this with us, Simon.
Thank you man this really helped me with my project on Mao! 😊
Bonus fact about the black and white cat-thing:
He was talking about the economy and the Chinese market, what he meant was choosing a planned economy or a market economy didn't really matter, as long as the result was prosperity for China
I see so many similarities between Mao and Xi. Xi sounds like a Mao copycat in modern days
Xi's biggest mistake is to ignore succession planning. He will inevitably decline and begin to lose his grip on all of China's issues. The vacuum he's leaving will cause in-fighting and instability. Pretty quickly the CCP will factionalize and start steering bits of the Chinese economy in counter-productive ways. The right hand will cease to know what the left hand is doing.
He's got to map out the future of China's governance. It will take time for the CCP to get used to whoever Xi chooses as his successor. Xi's successor will need time to demonstrate his/her competance. Leaving the task to the 11th hour will be just as bad as not doing it at all.
@Random Person Xi does go after his people. The first thing he did when he came in power is to run an "anti-corruption" campaign to get rid of people who still followed Xiang. He's in consistent pursue of people under Falung Gong and other groups. One thing he's much better at is advertisement and keeping a "positive'' image. With the new surveillance system he put in, all Chinese live a life in prison forever in China.
@Random Person wanna change your comment bro??
I chose the path of continuing watching TopTenz....🤘🏻✊🏻👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻😎
If you want to read a very thorough, excellent book about him: "The unknown story of Mao" by Jung Chang.
My professor has that book! It looked really interesting and I wanted to get my own copy. I might have to put in a request at the bookstore I frequent though. Couldn't find it anywhere.
@goff0103 what's the title of that book? I'd like to get a copy of that one too sometime so I can compare the info on each.
Wow. I had no idea. Thank you for covering this and enlightening us.
Keep up the excellent work
If you haven't already you should do one on Stalin as you did mao
I know they did at least 1 on Uncle Joe also Lennon and finally Trotsky.
Not sure what else there is.
Oh wait those were on Biographics channel. Oh well still decent watches
I sent this video to my friend in China and he was so shocked that he hasn't responded to this video, posted on social media, or contacted any of his family for over 2 years!
So did he respond ???
He’s dead
Mao did more brutal than Stalin :-0
Thằng Mao ác bỏ mẹ nó ra , tuy nhiên , khi đe dọa Bác Hồ hay Lê Duẩn là sẽ xâm lược VN nhưng đều bị hai ông này bật lại nên từ các lần sau khi VN sang thăm lại im re
@Frredomfromjunkscience - It's NOT wrong, though. Religious zeal is another of the most terrible offenders. The Albanian zealot known as "Mother Teresa" was exposed as a fraud by the late great public intellectual Christopher Hitchens. She kept going, mostly because the world leaders she associated with were frauds as well. When she received a Nobel Prize for her act, she said that the worst danger in the world was contraceptives. She was as as evil as Stalin - although she couldn't have you shot, like Mao or Stalin or Hitler. There's many monsters in the world, today - many in luxurious retirement or protected by the corporate controlled media. Watch at your own risk.
@Eugene Miyelis Thanks, I'm living in Vietnam :-0
Funny how the Great Leap Forward kind of sounds like the great reset.....
I love the videos you do of “10 brutal realities of life under..” like stalins Soviet Union and Pol Pot’s Cambodia. Maybe make this a series? Genghis Khans Mongolia? Castro’s Cuba? Hitlers Germany?
I don't think one can be done for Mongolia since a lot of information was lost to time.
With the amount of people pushing blindly for these ideologies, it would be a public service.
Edit: By that I mean Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot
HRHtheDude I don’t think anyone is pushing for Stalinism, Maoism or a return to Khmer Nationalist communism. Just as capitalism experienced its own growth pains from the times of mercantilism to Laissez-Fair capitalism, through to Keynesianism and social democracy, the discourse around an economic order evolves, matures and is refined and improved over time. We use these failures as lessons which we can learn from, not as a direct blueprint to be used as gospel. Look at, for example, the European shift from support of the USSR to Eurocommunism. While they are both socialist ideologies, one improves upon and critiques the other, learning lessons from its successes and failures. And yes, while the Soviet model was a clear failure in the end, it did, in fact, succeed in many ways.
@@joma5721 What a pathetic rationalization of the horrors of communism. And yes, they were HORRORS, not just "failures" or "growth pains". You wouldn't dare try such revisionism with fascism.
@@joma5721 European support of the USSR? Are you high or something? I was going to respond to some of your points but no, just no. Two words: COLD WAR
And did anyone get punished for this?
No I wonder why?
The people?
@@Ratmus1 The govemeant responsible for killing 75 million people
“It didn’t work for everyone else, but we’re different. We’re America! We can make it work here! Now give me all your money and property” - Bernie Sanders supporters.
Straight to the point... Thanx...
Confucius say : Woman who fly upside down have crack-up ! 😵
Sweet bird drawings bro!
I have a strong feeling this will be taken down,
Archive it while you can!
He almost started a war with Russia in the late 1960s.
This is one of your best, thank you.
The mango thing could almost be seen as a modern day fable.
You didn't take into account how luxurious Mao's head of hair was.
A historian once calculated that China killed about 600,000,000 of its own people over the centuries , between regional power plays and divers wars, plus all that is noted in this video ,,,,
total of European colonialism is probably ATLEAST around half that in a much shorter space of time.
what's your point.
@@JayVee53 That would suggest literally nearly all of Europe died. Especially during the colonial era, makes no sense bud.
It's bizarre to think it's too their own people too
@@camkraw893 You are suggesting that other countries didn't do the same lol
@@crystalball020 don't strawman my comment please, if that's what I was "suggesting" I would have stated that out right. Please refer to words I used and not what you "think I'm stating" when reading my comment
I really enjoy your video's...and the accent make it better! I'm from Texas, where we have no accent. :-)
Shelley M101 I'm from South Carolina where we must really have no accent then if y'all don't in Texas
Saying you don't have an accent is like if someone asks what model of car you have and you answer "My car doesn't have a model, it's just a car".
To me I bet you'd have accents, but I'm English so I have one too! When I visited Texas there was definitely an accent I noticed.
I’m a New Englander, and I can spot a Southern accent, generally, and a Texan accent, specifically, when I hear it. It doesn’t sound like an accent to you, because you hear it every day and it is normal to you, but we all have different regional eccentricities in our speech.
Matthew Calise yes southern accents differ from state to state and even different counties sometimes. I'm sure it's the same with anywhere else in the US too. SC and NC accent are different. Hell folks in Charleston, SC don't sound like anyone else in the state
Ads go at start or the end, never in the middle... i skip and always overdo it, missing minutes often of actual content. I hate ads with a passion.
Try to turn off autoplay, fast forward to the end - and start again from start.
Remember: According to Marx, Socialism is the pathway to Communism.
Remember also, there has never been a communist government such as the one propounded by Marx.
@@Raz.C And people (Americans) would know this if they actually read Marx..but yeah...
@@Raz.C This is due largely due to the fact that Marxism is a set of failed ideological ramblings. Inhuman and can only be impised by force.
Please read Atlas Shrugged by Any Rand for details. Philosophy for the intellectual MAN.
I've been reading "Red Scarf Girl" by Jiang Ji-li. Really enthralling and disturbing account of Mao's revolution from an ordinary girl's perspective.
I believe Deng said the Sichuan saying about the white and black cats in reference to the opening up of China (1981), starting with Shenzhen and was not purged for that particular reason.
This video is literally a cocktail of western misconceptions about China before 1976 and chinese government propaganda after 1976. This is evident when the guy talks about the Cultural Revolution, calling it "a decade of turmoil and madness", that is the classical depiction made by Deng and the Revisionists. Not only, in fact, did the CR bring democracy to the rural communes and the party, but it also helped reduce corruption and power in the hands of bureaucrats. Also, the economic growth during the Cultural Revolution (except 66-67) was incredibly high, and this can be confirmed by just making a few web searches about the Historical GDP of China. Another "funny" misconception is that reeducation camps were like gulags, which they were not. Reeducation camps weren't always prisons, many were just communes were volounteers (expecially intellectuals) would go to study theory and learn to do manual work. If someone here is interested in learning more about the CR and Maoist China in general I highly suggest reading "Battle For China's Past" by Mobo Gao, truly a great book that changed my point of view on Maoist China.
Mango: *exists.*
Mao's China: all hail mango
And let's not forget that the Soviet Union sent troops to defeat the nationalists...
The Issue with that?
The brightest parts of this video are the fact that Mao Zedong is dead now and that smooth Skillshare plug
I am disappointed this didn't result in Simon ending the video with a solemn "Slander the mango at your own peril"
Thank you for not spreading American lies about Tiananmen Square incident. Europeans are fortunate to realize the benefits of looking east for a better future for all people, not just the rich and spoiled. The future of mankind depends on the benevolent guidance from the Peoples Republic of China.
what lies?
The notion that he would cull approximately 70 million people is something that I simply cannot fathom. And even then, he still faced crippling over-population within the Country.
Mao Zedong was the real life Thanos. He basically killed off half his population so the other can eat.
No China that time had six hundred million people and if sixty million died it's still far away from half so he's not real life thanos.
The Sino-Soviet Split.
After several clashes along their shared border in 1969, the USSR drew up first strike plans to attack the Chinese nuclear facilities at Lop Nur in Xinjiang Province with nuclear weapons, and sent out feelers to the US Government concerning the American reaction to such an event.
After being told by Nixon officials that it would initiate World War 3, the Soviets backed away from the idea.
In China meanwhile, paranoia had reached such a feverish state that many of the Politburo became convinced that the aircraft carrying Soviet Foreign Minister Alexei Kosygin from the funeral of Ho Chi Min in Hanoi on September 11 1969 to an impromptu meeting with Premier Zhou Enlai in Beijing to defuse the crisis, was actually carrying a nuclear weapon.
Mao and most of the Politburo fled Beijing to underground shelters outside the city, leaving Zhou to meet with Kosygin at Beijing airport once his plane had landed.
Not a fan of the "messages from our sponsor" in the middle of the vids Si.
Then you need to sponsor him.
That mango thing had me laughing 😂
Stalin's dog who turned on his master
We are in the early parts of the same thing here in the USA! When peaceful people are labeled "terrorists" we are in danger!
As for the deaths constantly quoted under Mao, the exaggerate claims of deaths from starvation were not increased but decreased from the deaths *before* Mao’s reforms owing to Western imperialist interference with China prior to 1950. Look up life expectancy data from 1950 to 1970, and multiply that through the large population. Mao brought live expectancy from 45 to 70 over his career, literacy from 10% to 80%. I sympathize with you as I used to have similar notion but after a lot of work realized I was completely brainwashed within Australia. Upon a lot of research it turns out that Mao did exceedingly more for the people of China than he caused problems and without Mao and their liberation of China from capitalists in the early 1950s, the whole county of China would have followed a path similar to India or Indonesia which both had a similar (even slightly better) initial conditions. Now China has eliminated poverty and has far better health care, higher literacy, economic mobility and business than India or Indonesia and is even catching up to the West which it was exceedingly behind in 1950s when Britain was still bribing and calling the shots over there.
He also considered bathing "a waste of time." And since Mao already spent much of his precious time expelling waste due to constipation, it comes as no surprise that he only occasionally gave people's nostrils a reprieve when he went for a swim and toweled off. Li blamed the chairman's deep-seated opposition to soap and water on a "three-bath philosophy" that Chinese peasants allegedly adopted: "A bath at birth, one before marriage and one at death." However, the Independent mentions one other exception that appears in Li's tell-all. The congenitally filthy dictator claimed to clean his genitals by showering himself with women. Or as the chairman crudely put it, "I wash myself in the bodies of my women."
13 views and 91 likes, come on youtube
Ugh ads in the middle are a quick way to lose subscribers.
ive read numerous books about this kind of thing. Simon just brushes across the crazy crap China did.
no insult meant to Simon. still a very informative video.
What do you want this to be? A whole semester course?
DengXiaoPeng (spelling might be wrong) Is loved in China especially in the South, he opened up China to trade
Yikes at the segue into the skillshare ad
One aspect that was neglected in this was the longterm famine, not just during the great leap forward. The issue cane down to basic communism, the farmers were given equal portions of food stamps and money regardless of how hard they worked, this meant that those naturally inclined to take it easy were sometimes punished by the commune, but mostly the rest of the commune would also relax. This lead to even fertile areas being farmed poorly, and when they had to report their harvest, they would “round-up” to please the local party, and when the national party would send their gatherers, they would take all the harvest, presuming that there was more left and never stopping to ask why the ppl looked so famished. So the idea of everyone getting equal share regardless of how hard or efficient meant no one HAD to work hard, and the fear of being subversive lead to no one in chain of command reporting that their constituents were not following doctrine or were lying, thus we get exactly what we get with the current virus: mistakes were made but no one dares say anything, and now they as a whole blame foreigners.
Not true
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12:30 I've also heard that the biggest comic book superheroes were Supermango and Batmango. They thought Wonder Womango was okay, and Aquamango was stupid.
Laogai? Where re-education happened? Jfc I think I found the inspiration for Lake Laogai in AtLA!
Nothing is changed in recent days in fact it's probably getting worse in most areas
I’m pretty sure Simon is my favorite host on RUclips.
I love skill share and this channel!
Now make a video about Armenian genocide by ottoman empire, Kashmir pandits genocide by islamists in Indian Kashmir .
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And now, Winnie the Pooh is taking China back to Mao's era.
You didn't draw the sparrows who were killed almost the edge of extinction shame on you Simon
BLM, NBA and China. Perfect combo
It's one thing to be evil, but this highlights the fact that he was incompetent as well
How is this still on RUclips?
Cannibalism during the Famine was very common, I'm talking parents eating their own children
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Now I know why I've never liked mangoes.
Tong Shau Ping was eventually turned into an ultimate weapon
Right, years ago I had a clerk, she was born during the cultural revolution, she was completely brainwashed. If it weren't tragic it'd be absurdly comical. She was in the States as her husband forced her to leave with him after Tianemen square.
Love you Simon
I wonder how many people are disappointed after they sign up to a how to draw birds course....
I'd love to see a video in the future about micronations or even a biographics about Eli Avivi! Love the show!
you know you have gone to far when the soviet union think you crazy
You didn't mention the "killing the birds" fiasco.
I'm off to draw a bird.
Mangoes are amazingly delicious. However, breadfruit, crates and crates of breadfruit dropped from the sky would have been helpful.
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Mao would be the worst Simcity/cities skylines player ever!
I know it's bad to speak ill of the dead, but this is one person whose grave I would piss on.
The more I watch these videos, the more I respect the modern Chinese. They started from a stupidly behind starting point and grow into one of the most influential countries in the world.
Thanks to Marxism
bro 😭😭 what
These sponsor transitions are great!
too many commercials.
Transgenders on Twitter: "socialism doesn't seem so bad!"
Socialism:
The success of Stalin - the man who used to boast that he conquered the United States "from the plow to the atomic bomb in just a generation" - compared to Gorbachev's failure shows that a socialist economy is unable to function with a minimum of efficiency without requiring a massive dose of political violence. In an attempt to reform a decadent regime, Gorbachev moved faster with the process of economic opening in the hope of removing the predictable resistance that the Soviet bureaucracy would create to economic reform measures, as thorough proof with the failed attempt. coup d'état in August 1991 - which ended up precipitating the final crisis of socialism and the dissolution of the USSR itself
Its Chinese parallel - Deng Xiaoping - adopted a logic diametrically opposed to that of Gorbachev: it prioritized the achievement of economic prosperity (adopting in practice capitalism) precisely to delay any attempt at political opening, as was evident with the acceleration of the economy. reforms after the Tiananmen Square massacre.
It is important to note that it was Karl Marx himself who, in his Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, discerned the scenario in which the conditions for a social revolution process are formed, describing it as follows:
“At a certain stage in its development, the material productive forces of society contradict existing production relations or - which is only their legal expression - with the property relations in which they have been active until then. From the forms of development of the productive forces, these relations are transformed into fetters of them. So, it is a time of social revolution. ' *
By rejecting the pursuit of profit maximization as an instrument to stimulate innovation, socialist countries ended up condemning themselves to obsolescence. Thus, they lost the chance to incorporate the productivity gains made possible by technological progress. That is why the capitalist countries managed to provide a greater rise in the standard of living of their population, even without pursuing the egalitarian ideal. Therefore, until the “final crisis of socialism” (to paraphrase K. Marx's own definitions once again), it was only a matter of time. But religious fanatics do not give up on their faith, even against the indisputable proof of the facts, which completely refute it!
* Reproduced according to MARX, K. Preface to the Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, organized by Florestan Fernandes and published under the title K. Marx: Theory and historical process of the social revolution, In Marx & Engels, Great Social Scientists Collection, History, vol. 36. São Paulo: Ática, 1983. p. 232. Commemorative edition of the centenary of Karl Marx's death
I read “Hungry Ghosts” in high school and it gave me nightmares.