Bro how do you not have hundreds of thousands of subscribers? I keep looking at your channel and I love your videos and they’re awesome. How is it that you only have that many subscribers? It doesn’t make any sense
Ooooohh I did see the win mini, and it does look great. As I say I really wanted to love the win 2 and the win mini really comes close to the win 2. I'm tempted but I think I'm content with the win 4 for now
As someone who bought the original Gpd win back in the day for its portability, I'm really glad that the company have also kept gamers wanting form factor in mind because the other handheld gaming PC's are simply too huge for my liking. To this day I still can't believe how sharp the little 720p screen looks on that machine I have and given that the 4 is only half an inch bigger I don't doubt that 720p will still look good on that size, and the added ability to go 1080p will come in very handy for some of the older games that will still run really smoothly. Very tempted to grab one of these for the sheer amount of power it has for something that could fit into my pocket. Definitely could see myself playing Crusader Kings, Dead Rising, modded Fallouts and Elder Scrolls on it and a bunch of other games from the last 5 or so generations as well as emulators. That kickstand was also a very nice touch. Well done!
Still love the gpd win 1s design the most. The size and screen ratio was great. I didnt need a screen protector because of the clam shell. Just loved it and I miss her T^T
Nice review, I've also been enjoying my Win 4! but the Deck can definitely play Epic and GOG games via Heroic launcher, and other launchers. Of course, it won't have perfect compatibility, but it works fine.
@@LeftyPencil I tested bazzite on my Win Mini and Win Max 2 and while I like that it offers a near identical experience to the Steam Deck, there are some bugs that need to be ironed out and the lack of frame generation and eGPU support makes me gravitate towards Windows
Great device I agree that in order for something to be considered a handheld it has to be portable. I think if it had an Oled screen and 120hz I would buy.
As much as I agree. there's a lot of factors to consider to the manufactorers. * Is it cost effective to build something so expensive? For a normal laptop you're looking around £1500+ * Is there an immediate demand for it? is it worth it for these manufactorers to make it, knowing they may get a small margin back * Specs may get outdated and people may just want a more powerful device (albeit not having OLED or 120hz screen) * Manufactorers also have to contend with making it portable means it will be harder to dissipate heat resulting in bad performance.
11:44 Man, F them! 😂 How you play should be how you see fit, not what others believe you should play a game. There’s no rule either, if you want to play on a portable handheld, do it. It’s incredible that we have devices like this, that pack enough power in a small handheld allowing us to play big AAA titles to indies ad ofc emulators like RCPS3. I’m looking into these PC handhelds. Reason being was because I forgotten how great it is to use a portable handheld. I’m not trying to get into PC as my main platform since my online buds don’t wanna jump ship from PS5 so I resorted to looking into these PC handhelds. This just might be the one but while I do have the money to blow, ehhh I don’t know how to feel about spending $800+ on this. At that point I might as well look into building a PC but I want a PC handheld 🤔
Lol for sure, play how you like! Ye, i've always wanted a portable gaming machine that does everything! But as you say, at an extortionate price, it's definitely something you need to think twice about.But for those that want a similar experience thats not gunna totally destroy your bank account, i'd say start with a Steam Deck; they're always dropping in price, its a lot more available and its less than half the price of the GPD, granted its bigger, but definitely something to start off with
i've ordered the 7840u model with 64gig of ram and 4tb of storage, can't wait for it to arrive! how hot does it get when you're playing a AAA game? i have an old GPD win 1 and that used to get HOT when running something like overwatch or skyrim
So what did you think of it? I do love my device, but those damn joysticks are next to useless. The update they came out with did help, but still, not great.
yup, its the 6800U. lol compared to the older Win 2, this is a tad more quiet. But I agree it does get hot. I've had it for the past year and it does get toasty on the right side where the extra back buttons are.
I had mini4 nice device,but ergonomics not so great for longer play,and device at back can warm up hands if tdp higher than 15. Interesting how good mini will be.
I guess it comes down to how you're going to use this product. Are you a going to be using this more than just gaming and need that requires more resource? For me, I think 32GB is more than enough for day to day tasks and gaming.
@@mikeys_youtube_makes for me, it's a gaming product first and foremost with lots of emulation use and tinkering on testing ROMs for still developing Emulators. I'd like something that can last at 7+ years for on the go portability and I'm wondering if that extra amount of RAM could make up for its lack of top tier graphical capabilities through brute force.
@@blaster915 I see, in which case you may want to hold out for something a bit more powerful. I would say at the moment we're at the start of portable gaming pc's (definitely with the help of the steam deck to drive it) , so I don't think they're at its full potential quite yet. I think the bottleneck would be the gpu, unless you add a egpu to it, but it kinda defeats the purpose of having a portable pc.
Lol, I do try to wipe the screen especially when filming. Guess I didn't get all the smudges out. Also can be a little dusty in my room of filming. As for the thumbsticks, I do actually mention I've used thumbsticks when using the Win4. There's probably a few shots I didn't have them on, but thats only because I want to show what you get out of the box. I've also included a link to which thumbsticks I use in the description
Oh jeez sorry, that's the thing I forget to add. I've now added in the description, but it's this Skycase Phone Stand Adjustable Phone Stand With Magic stickers Folding Back Foldable Mobile Travel Holder Compatible with All Models amzn.eu/d/1XjrP7G
How long did it take you to properly program each emulator to correspond with the proper buttons and control? That's the only thing I'm dreading, I wish there was something that would automatically detect and set. I got Win4 too and just ordered a 4tb NVMe from LEVEN the JP600 appears to be single sided and has a removable heatsink so perfect fit and size at the price of $149 on Amazon. At the beginning of the Video you mentioned the importance of Internet Connectivity but you didn't bring up the USB-C 4G LTE model, which doesn't make sense if you're going to compare it to the Steam Deck because then they're both limited to WiFi only connection. I'm satisfied with I have it on metro by T-Mobile with a unlimited $15 a month Tablet data plan.
To you first question about controller mapping. I use launchbox and set everything to use retroarch. So I think you'd just need to configure your buttons once in retroarch and you would not need to touch it again. Obviously there are emulators that retroarch does not support, and for that you'd need to configure it yourself. But it's only a small number of emulators
Yup, and as you say, you can get some sort of portable wifi dongle or you can even tether your phone. But I feel there's a few more variables you'd need to contend with like stable connections and latency. But I'm just nit picking, I do actually love cloud gaming
@@mikeys_youtube_makes Figured it out. FPS were set to 45 and I put it on 60fps and it works perfect. And yes it is worth it but scraping all the games takes for ever.
Do you think with an eGPU, max configuration (7840U, 64GB RAM 4TB Memory), and a dock for peripherals, that someone could reliably raid or do group content in world of warcraft. Essentially, could you play WoW group content reliably?
dont need max specs for that ram and storage wouldn't affect it so you can save money and go for the 32 and buy a NVME and install it your self if you want. but I seen people play WoW using Rog ally doing raids so pretty sure it should be fine if you go with the 7840u variant. the Z1 extreme and the 780m are virtually the same chip
Ergonomically it's not too bad. The sides bulge out a little for your hand to cup. But compared a xbox controller it doesn't provide the extra length, although people have made 3d printed parts to make it longer But if you're playing long sessions, honestly it's not that bad. I think the only thing that annoys me is the heat the comes out of the device. Your hands will get a little toasty over a long period and obviously more demanding games
@@mikeys_youtube_makes thanks for the reply man! I saw a used one go for just $600 on Facebook so I decided to do some research on it (it's about the same price as a used ally in my region). The biggest complaints I heard were about the controls. Good to know it's not too bad.
I can see if I can get a filming of this of this if you like. I think I did download Infinite when I bought it, but only played a few hours. It ran ok, not perfect but playable. But everything was pretty much set to Low
Yeah, because it's totally smart to carry around not protected Windows PC that has all your accounts and credentials that you can easily lose... Do you by chance also never password lock your smartphone?
Personally i think 16GB is enough depending on what you want to do. But as games and demand for memory for certain apps require more. You kinda need to get 32GB
I totally know where you're coming from. I have a lot of portable consoles. But this is my first 'decent' performing portable gaming pc. So that's how I justified it lol
@@mikeys_youtube_makes I justified it by also ordering a portable screen looks like a 14' notebook (with only a screen + keyboard + touchpad + 5000mah battery) from there, this gaming handheld becoming versatile for both mobile gaming (6' or 14') and production. now just waiting for my orders to arrive😁
Bought a grip and some switch analog stick caps for this. This legit feels like the perfect handheld
Bro how do you not have hundreds of thousands of subscribers? I keep looking at your channel and I love your videos and they’re awesome. How is it that you only have that many subscribers? It doesn’t make any sense
Dude, thank you so much! It means a lot to me hearing that
Iv just bought the win 4 7840u 32g 2tb updated model 😊 can't wait for it to arrive this February
Awesome! Let me know how you get on with it
GPD Win Mini is looking like the ultimate portable Gaming PC (if they can solve the heat issue)
Ooooohh I did see the win mini, and it does look great. As I say I really wanted to love the win 2 and the win mini really comes close to the win 2. I'm tempted but I think I'm content with the win 4 for now
nice review pretty straightforward and I like it. I hope to see soon a review about gpd win mini
This is sick man, great review.
P.s. you have very nice hands
Thanks, I do moisterise
As someone who bought the original Gpd win back in the day for its portability, I'm really glad that the company have also kept gamers wanting form factor in mind because the other handheld gaming PC's are simply too huge for my liking. To this day I still can't believe how sharp the little 720p screen looks on that machine I have and given that the 4 is only half an inch bigger I don't doubt that 720p will still look good on that size, and the added ability to go 1080p will come in very handy for some of the older games that will still run really smoothly.
Very tempted to grab one of these for the sheer amount of power it has for something that could fit into my pocket. Definitely could see myself playing Crusader Kings, Dead Rising, modded Fallouts and Elder Scrolls on it and a bunch of other games from the last 5 or so generations as well as emulators.
That kickstand was also a very nice touch. Well done!
So in-depth! Great showcase of everything it can do
Brilliant review!
In reviewing Win 4s, always include the m.2 2280 SSD! It's actually using the long laptop SSD no need to buy that small one!
LOL I actually had a follow up video to upgrade the storage to 4TB. But yes thats a good point to unclude
Still love the gpd win 1s design the most.
The size and screen ratio was great.
I didnt need a screen protector because of the clam shell.
Just loved it and I miss her T^T
0:25 what is that small red device its adorable.
LOL its the ANBERNIC RG Nano Mini. Pretty cool little device. I'll probably do a small review of it one day
@@mikeys_youtube_makes small review.... heh
Your journey with GPD want almost exactly the same as mine. The only difference was my wind too ran a bit too worm to be my daily driver.
You're absolutely right. The longer i've had it, I have noticed a bit of heat on the right side on the back where the back-paddles are
Nice review, I've also been enjoying my Win 4! but the Deck can definitely play Epic and GOG games via Heroic launcher, and other launchers. Of course, it won't have perfect compatibility, but it works fine.
Absolutely, you can add the heroic launcher, I actually used it when sifu was only avaliable on Epic. It's OK but as you say it's not 100% compatible
Have Steam run on startup with the Steam Deck UI and it's basically like a Steam Deck
Can even flash Bazzite or Chimera for a SteamOS experience
@@LeftyPencil I tested bazzite on my Win Mini and Win Max 2 and while I like that it offers a near identical experience to the Steam Deck, there are some bugs that need to be ironed out and the lack of frame generation and eGPU support makes me gravitate towards Windows
Great device I agree that in order for something to be considered a handheld it has to be portable. I think if it had an Oled screen and 120hz I would buy.
As much as I agree. there's a lot of factors to consider to the manufactorers.
* Is it cost effective to build something so expensive? For a normal laptop you're looking around £1500+
* Is there an immediate demand for it? is it worth it for these manufactorers to make it, knowing they may get a small margin back
* Specs may get outdated and people may just want a more powerful device (albeit not having OLED or 120hz screen)
* Manufactorers also have to contend with making it portable means it will be harder to dissipate heat resulting in bad performance.
I love the psp design of gpd win 4 but i wish the battery was 55wh
looks cool
11:44 Man, F them! 😂 How you play should be how you see fit, not what others believe you should play a game. There’s no rule either, if you want to play on a portable handheld, do it. It’s incredible that we have devices like this, that pack enough power in a small handheld allowing us to play big AAA titles to indies ad ofc emulators like RCPS3.
I’m looking into these PC handhelds. Reason being was because I forgotten how great it is to use a portable handheld. I’m not trying to get into PC as my main platform since my online buds don’t wanna jump ship from PS5 so I resorted to looking into these PC handhelds. This just might be the one but while I do have the money to blow, ehhh I don’t know how to feel about spending $800+ on this. At that point I might as well look into building a PC but I want a PC handheld 🤔
Lol for sure, play how you like! Ye, i've always wanted a portable gaming machine that does everything! But as you say, at an extortionate price, it's definitely something you need to think twice about.But for those that want a similar experience thats not gunna totally destroy your bank account, i'd say start with a Steam Deck; they're always dropping in price, its a lot more available and its less than half the price of the GPD, granted its bigger, but definitely something to start off with
Took me a while to realize when I got mine but the 4k support is on the bottom c port. Just in case u didn’t know!!
i've ordered the 7840u model with 64gig of ram and 4tb of storage, can't wait for it to arrive!
how hot does it get when you're playing a AAA game?
i have an old GPD win 1 and that used to get HOT when running something like overwatch or skyrim
Richh 🤯
If you gonna play at 15+ tdp,will be warmie for hands,and sadly not comfy to hold compare to deck.
Where can I order/preorder the 64gb model? I can’t find it anywhere
So what did you think of it? I do love my device, but those damn joysticks are next to useless. The update they came out with did help, but still, not great.
@@Flow-.- whats wrong with the joystick?
Full size usb ?!urs is a 6800u version ? That one is extremely loud as well and hot .
yup, its the 6800U. lol compared to the older Win 2, this is a tad more quiet. But I agree it does get hot. I've had it for the past year and it does get toasty on the right side where the extra back buttons are.
I had mini4 nice device,but ergonomics not so great for longer play,and device at back can warm up hands if tdp higher than 15. Interesting how good mini will be.
I would love to try out the Mini. looks like a decent device and lot more practical to use a laptop
Do you think that the jump to 64GB is worth the extra cash? Or did they nail the sweet spot with the 32GB or RAM?
I guess it comes down to how you're going to use this product. Are you a going to be using this more than just gaming and need that requires more resource? For me, I think 32GB is more than enough for day to day tasks and gaming.
@@mikeys_youtube_makes for me, it's a gaming product first and foremost with lots of emulation use and tinkering on testing ROMs for still developing Emulators.
I'd like something that can last at 7+ years for on the go portability and I'm wondering if that extra amount of RAM could make up for its lack of top tier graphical capabilities through brute force.
@@blaster915 I see, in which case you may want to hold out for something a bit more powerful. I would say at the moment we're at the start of portable gaming pc's (definitely with the help of the steam deck to drive it) , so I don't think they're at its full potential quite yet.
I think the bottleneck would be the gpu, unless you add a egpu to it, but it kinda defeats the purpose of having a portable pc.
Good video bro but you really need to clean your device and I highly recommend some thumb stick caps to protect those analog sticks
Lol, I do try to wipe the screen especially when filming. Guess I didn't get all the smudges out. Also can be a little dusty in my room of filming. As for the thumbsticks, I do actually mention I've used thumbsticks when using the Win4. There's probably a few shots I didn't have them on, but thats only because I want to show what you get out of the box. I've also included a link to which thumbsticks I use in the description
thx. the stick-on stand, which one is the one you are using ?
Oh jeez sorry, that's the thing I forget to add. I've now added in the description, but it's this
Skycase Phone Stand Adjustable Phone Stand With Magic stickers Folding Back Foldable Mobile Travel Holder Compatible with All Models amzn.eu/d/1XjrP7G
How long did it take you to properly program each emulator to correspond with the proper buttons and control? That's the only thing I'm dreading, I wish there was something that would automatically detect and set. I got Win4 too and just ordered a 4tb NVMe from LEVEN the JP600 appears to be single sided and has a removable heatsink so perfect fit and size at the price of $149 on Amazon. At the beginning of the Video you mentioned the importance of Internet Connectivity but you didn't bring up the USB-C 4G LTE model, which doesn't make sense if you're going to compare it to the Steam Deck because then they're both limited to WiFi only connection. I'm satisfied with I have it on metro by T-Mobile with a unlimited $15 a month Tablet data plan.
To you first question about controller mapping. I use launchbox and set everything to use retroarch. So I think you'd just need to configure your buttons once in retroarch and you would not need to touch it again. Obviously there are emulators that retroarch does not support, and for that you'd need to configure it yourself. But it's only a small number of emulators
Yup, and as you say, you can get some sort of portable wifi dongle or you can even tether your phone. But I feel there's a few more variables you'd need to contend with like stable connections and latency. But I'm just nit picking, I do actually love cloud gaming
What is the name of the program that comes with all the emulators please?
The launcher I'm using is called Launchbox. I have a link of it in the description. It's worth trying out, makes everything so easy to manage
@@mikeys_youtube_makes Thanks friend
Have you tried Emudeck on the Win 4? I have crackling sound when I use Emudeck and I haven't got a clue what causes it and how to get rid of it.
I've not actually tried Emudeck on it. Is it worth installing it? Aside from the crackling
@@mikeys_youtube_makes Figured it out. FPS were set to 45 and I put it on 60fps and it works perfect. And yes it is worth it but scraping all the games takes for ever.
Do you think with an eGPU, max configuration (7840U, 64GB RAM 4TB Memory), and a dock for peripherals, that someone could reliably raid or do group content in world of warcraft. Essentially, could you play WoW group content reliably?
dont need max specs for that ram and storage wouldn't affect it so you can save money and go for the 32 and buy a NVME and install it your self if you want. but I seen people play WoW using Rog ally doing raids so pretty sure it should be fine if you go with the 7840u variant. the Z1 extreme and the 780m are virtually the same chip
How comfortable is it compared to a PS or Xbox controller over long sessions?
Ergonomically it's not too bad. The sides bulge out a little for your hand to cup. But compared a xbox controller it doesn't provide the extra length, although people have made 3d printed parts to make it longer
But if you're playing long sessions, honestly it's not that bad. I think the only thing that annoys me is the heat the comes out of the device. Your hands will get a little toasty over a long period and obviously more demanding games
@@mikeys_youtube_makes thanks for the reply man!
I saw a used one go for just $600 on Facebook so I decided to do some research on it (it's about the same price as a used ally in my region).
The biggest complaints I heard were about the controls. Good to know it's not too bad.
I have been wondering how well it would play The campaign for halo infinite
I can see if I can get a filming of this of this if you like. I think I did download Infinite when I bought it, but only played a few hours. It ran ok, not perfect but playable. But everything was pretty much set to Low
Cool but the screen is too small for me
Ye it's definitely not for everyone.
But to have it this small, I guess you'll have to sacrifice some things
How's the battery life?
Mainly depends on what you're playing. But I would say on average about 2-3 hours
Can you test Fallout 4 at max settings with 60fps?
Yea no
How well can this edit videos?
Probably not that well. I daren't use it to edit videos
"Less is more" I feel like they wasted resources on certain things like a fingerprint reader 🤦🏿
Absolutely! But at the same time it may be useful for others. But for sure the RGB LED's are pointless IMO.
Yeah, because it's totally smart to carry around not protected Windows PC that has all your accounts and credentials that you can easily lose...
Do you by chance also never password lock your smartphone?
Useful to me.
Very useful. Not sure why you wouldn’t want it. Especially with PassKeys becoming prevalent.
I’m stuck between the 16gb of ram or 32 I can get the money for the 32 but is it worth it
Personally i think 16GB is enough depending on what you want to do. But as games and demand for memory for certain apps require more. You kinda need to get 32GB
isn't this the 7640u?
Nope, definitely the 6800U
Please can you test final fantasy 16
I believe ff16 is only on the ps5 at the moment
I can afford it, but I can't justify it. :(
I totally know where you're coming from. I have a lot of portable consoles. But this is my first 'decent' performing portable gaming pc. So that's how I justified it lol
@@mikeys_youtube_makes I justified it by also ordering a portable screen looks like a 14' notebook (with only a screen + keyboard + touchpad + 5000mah battery)
from there, this gaming handheld becoming versatile for both mobile gaming (6' or 14') and production.
now just waiting for my orders to arrive😁
@@zsydeepsky2nice! Let me know how you get on with it
tiny screen
Ye, its not for everyone. But personally I like the size
Play call of duty & gta 5
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