Toast talks about breakup with Janet for the first time
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- This is a serious topic, The reason I posted this video is because I think that many people are in a similar situation. He is a role model for many people so hopefully we can learn something from his self reflection.
His realization of his flaws is very logical, but it takes emotional maturity to see and admit that out loud.
Or maybe it's not a real flaw and wahmin are the hysterical ones who need to improve. 😀
@@luisochoa576 or maybe if you have that idea you have really bad choice or are an incel, pick a struggle
@@luisochoa576 OOOoooooh yikes.You heard it here guys, men have absolutely no flaws.
@@bdhjzbcdhz971 yep this expert says so therefore its true
@@luisochoa576 stop being butthurt over a joke
"Being correct shouldn't be as important as being considerate"
- Disguised Toast 2021
So wrong
Being correct is just as important, if not more so, depending on the situation. What if Janet wanted to beat your child or was anti-vax? Sometimes... being right matters too.
@@desrtfox I see where your coming from but your example does not fit the situation at all, he said that it's more important, not that you should completely give up being right JUST to be considerate.
@@desrtfox well if you wanna date a woman you gotta accept that you cant always be correct
@@desrtfox I totally agree that being right matters too, but when I quoted Toast he didn't mean that being correct is wrong overall. What he meant was being correct all the time shouldn't be prioritized over considering how someone might feel. Personally, this depends on the situation, however in Toast's situation, he was proving how he's right constantly that it started pushing the other person away. When you're stuck in a room with a know-it-all typa person, you can't help but get annoyed at times you know?
love how he admits his faults instead of trying to make excuses for his past behavior
Well, he's a guy so.
@SHANNELLE ATKINSON nah i think he meant it the other way around, like the childish "girls never admit flaws, girls suck" sexist kinda way
@@Emily-ys2do oh yes childish and sexist, not true at all...
@@HitPeace guys struggle with admitting their faults just as much as women. why is everything a gender thing lmao like this stuff depends on individual people and their personalities.
@@paulgotik Yo, people just admit to being sexist these days? A+ for self awareness my man
The realization is always after the fact but that makes us to be a better person.
so true man... so true..
It's always there so long as the person makes the effort to actually reflect. Some people go about thinking they are always the perfect person in a relationship
but it's great when the realization comes, unlike some people that don't learn from their mistakes. Acknowledging your flaws is a big step, shows a lot of self knowledge and maturity.
Yeah that is what I was thinking that’s good that Toast realized what to do to became a better people and that’s good that he’s self improving😃
We love ✨ GROWTH ✨ 🤩
I had no idea he and Janet dated. That explains their kinda joking frenemy vibes in Among Us.
Joust
@@HitPeace joast*
I guess you're living inside a cave
@@waynetecson Toast has many new fans, specially when the Among us rose up. So not everyone will know about it.
@@waynetecson not everyone are spending all their free time on exploring someone's personal life
Alternative Title: Toast shows what a real mature adult is like.
he's the most mature streamer I have seen, the 2nd is ryan higa
HES ALWAYS SHOWING WHAT A MATURE ADULT LOOKS LIKE
Boom.
@@themonocleguy371 I am pretty happy with streamers in general, many of them are pretty mature and actually good people. Charlie, Ludwig, Toast, Hasan(for the most part). Not everybody, but I guess the community has great role model if you compare to trashy mainstream media.
@@themonocleguy371 daang what’s he got in Ryan to edge him over?
Toast with earrings looks so fire I can’t even lie
I also noticed his earrings in this video for the first time. How long has he had earrings?
@@andrewjdm9523 I think he said that he pierced his ears in January, but only until recently he decided to wear earrings
Damnnnnnn truth
It's so true. And this is confusing for me as straight male.
@@kopekito_fx you're not straight
his realization of even if someone’s “right”, they don’t have to stand firmly on the being correct point because emotions should be taken into consideration too .-. i feel like he has done a lot of thinking just to come to this point kudos to him
Emotion needs to conform to truth not the other way around
@@jokinghazard4022 Ye no you need to work on this a lil more mate. Its not just about comforming, in this kind of cases there are 2 truths. Emotional truth and factual truth. You cant control and command feelings to model them after logic, at most you can moderate them. Hence you gotta mediate between feelings and logic. Sometimes the emotional truth will take precedence.
@@jokinghazard4022 Well how the truth is presented is important. You can say a bunch of different things that logically mean the same thing but elicit a different emotional reaction. "estate tax" vs "death tax" "overdosed" vs "lost a battle with addiction" "affordable" vs "cheap" etc.
@@kurai8437 yea no, feelings must conform to truth it really is that simple. If someone gets upset over truth they are the one that needs to change not the truth. Emotions are subjective and often wrong therefore we should not base pretty much any decisions on them, but the truth is always stable.
@@haatash I agree completely, my point is that one should never apologize for being right but that doesn't mean we should not pay attention to how we say things
"Being correct shouldn't be as important as being considerate".
-Toast2021
3:49
“In a relationship” in most other cases I’d rather be correct
I disagree with that, one should not sacrifice the truth to appease others.
@@altumurnemtzra2026 if ur saying that even in a relationship context then good luck getting a girlfriend
@@altumurnemtzra2026 i agree with that
This is very mature. And it is true for the most part that being "smart" shouldn't negate empathy especially for any relationship (romantic or not) to work. Knowledge is powerful, but being human should be the core purpose of that power. It's basically a power(position/authority e.g. being right all the time means you have more control and power) issue, like in our studies in social science, this is usually the case of authoritative leaders where their empathy and humanity are overshadowed by their power. So it's nice of him to admit to it and work on it.
And denying reality because it makes you feel sad is the best thing? People who put emotions above rational while making decision is the root of most problems in our society. Wating to be allways right is a complete different thing than actually having proof of being right but having to ignore that to appease our partner feelings.
@@paulgotik Thought it was obvious that this is not the point I was trying to make. What I meant is that there should be a balance between the two. Knowledge without empathy is no better than empathy without rationality.
@@simpslayer327 well said honestly
I feel so stupid because I have no idea what you meant 😭😭
Many smart people lack social intelligence.
im like toast....without the bigbrain :'(
so your Asian ?
@@blaguo17 yep, no cap. so you also wanna pull a gun on me?
@@Bivid008 probably but I don't want to shoot you
@@Bivid008 *AWESOME* im asian too :D #asiangang
@@leonayoung EEEYYYYYYYYY SAME
There was this one chick in the chat that said "date a dumb girl like me" lmfao
I missed that, I can't stand how dumb his chat is, spamming KEKW and shit when talking about serious stuff
@@disguisedpeanutbutter8334 what chat doesn't do that?
@@MrColoskyj facebook and probably RUclips chat. I rarely see them spam and actually interact more with each other rather then being a degenerate and spam emotes and words.
@@woolf2796 Yeah, that’s the thing with those iconic twitch Site-wide emotes, it creates an underlying hivemind that is in every stream on twitch. Just make every streamer have their personal emotes and that’s it.
But maybe it’s just the site in general. RUclips live is generally a lot different
@@Icetea-2000 You seem like a expert in this, how would you compare youtube live and twitch to each other? how they work different?
*Toast:* _being emotionally vulnerable_
*Chat:* "YOUR JAWLINE LOOKING SEXY"
Toast: being smart is a curse... and a blessing
Me: Toast is suffering from success
Edit: tysm for 8k likes omg I've never had this many before
That's why he'd been learning an art called how to not giving f*ck. And he's so good at it.
Hello fellow overkiller
Ballin’ but at what cost
@@NinyaMonke Yo wassup
good morning fellow overkiller
02:17 Aww toast. My heart.
Tbh only a reasonable man would even be aware of those things even if they're not manipulative or selfish in the first place.
@jack you okay?
@jack ??
@jack currently he/she/them/op is not acting stalkerish or obsessed,simply voiced their emotional reaction to a reflection of past flaws and then their own thoughts on the matter, you could say toast doesnt want the ops opinion but then toast simply shouldnt share something if he knows someone will be inconsiderate and share their own thoughts about his life
A reasonable man or a woman*
@@grandmaisaburgerthief703 The word "man" can be in different contexts. As a native English speaker it is clear to me that they meant man as in "mankind" not as in "male".
I miss Janet saying "Jeremy" it was so adorable
Edit: what is this comment section
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Stop it guyss ☹😔😢😭
One of my favorite things about Toast is how self aware he is
Tis a curse and a blessing
Im also very self-aware and yeah it helps you be a better person but it also just hurts you emotionally (ig you have to go through that to be a better person but my mental health is very fragile so-)
Anyways Toast has balls is what I’m trying to say
I feel Toast on "being stubborn & correct all of the time".
It hurts us with big egos, to have to swallow our pride and have to let mistakes & errors made by others go not acknowledged, in the interest of being considerate to those we like.
It's all apart of being evolved 30 year-olds.
for me more so what he´s talking about here about being logical instead of emotional. Its not really my ego, just that like him I can be too logical or pragmatic... honestly if anything im probably too considerate.. but thats also how I want to be. So I got stuff to work on too I guess ^^
Egos come from insecurities. The larger the ego the larger the insecurity.
@@dnldblmnt sure.
@@JT-Rebel that's kind of true though, from what I heard from Dr K in his video on ego.. ego becomes a problem when it comes from insecurities due to comparison
Holy shit Im 15 and I do this all the time.
only a few has the balls to honest enough to admit yor mistakes and flaws in the relationship
so salute to you Toast
yeah that's why women never admit their flaws.
@@paulgotik wtf lol
@@paulgotik lmfao gtfo
@@paulgotik Or maybe you were the actual problem? Dunno, just food for thought that generalizing women like that says more about you than them. *shrugs*
The thing is they both think their right. But that break up was just sad. I feel you toast. I feel you
@ඞ cause they want to?
@ඞ people go their own ways, doesn't seem like a nasty breakup more like that they just didn't feel like they re good together
@ඞ cause they wanted to is the answer. Dont be so nosy it’s not your business nor your concern
@ඞ mabye watch the video
@ඞ well apparently not all of it, he explains it at the end
It must hurt him to say that. I mean it is not easy to stay single especially knowing how much Toast cares for people.
Well, Toast you can work on that "logical" part and then there will be a chance for you to date? associate with people? I think it is good that you know where you exactly come short with relationships and partnerships. I don't think it matters to be right but surely being right all the time can grow your ego .. it is tricky to navigate? For example, even if you found someone who don't mind you being right, what says you don't get fed up with them being naive or not like you or to your level?
"it's not easy to stay single"? just because I care for people, that doesn't mean I must be a relationship-addict. we should only date if we are genuinely invested in someone, not because it's expected to chase relationships for societal pressure. it's 2021, staying single shouldn't be stigmatized.
@@BenefitCounterbench its not easy to stay single bc humans want to be surrounded by people, especially intimately its not due to societal pressure most of the time and more than likely toast wants to be in a relationship but he still wants to learn on how to better himself first
@@BenefitCounterbench Well, I agree with all that, but the fact that there is a societal pressure has nothing to do with it being hard to be single. You should look for the right person for sure, but that does not mean your body and mind don't want someone to be with. It's more of a problem with the fact that most people crave a relationship because it's linked to our most rooted instincts, not because society says we need to. You should not rush into a relationship if the person is not right, but that does not mean it is easy to be single, because for most adults it is not.
@@monny1815 Society does pressure us to be with someone even when we're not ready because most people I know feel loser/failure when single. They're chasing relationships just for the sake of it, not because they have a certain crush or whatever. Love should be natural, but people force it to not stand out. I know a guy who can't stay single for more than a month, then he wonders why his relationships fail - because he jumps into new ones when he's still not over the previous one. But he says: "omg, I can't stay single, what will others think?"
@@toad7395 Love is great when not forced, but I'll never understand the relationship-addict ones. Maybe it's their mental drug. *shrugs* Anyways, staying single _is_ easy: less obligation, less problem, more freedom, and more time to improve yourself before you find your soulmate/SO - I don't see the problem here.
He is now in the last stage of grief, acceptance.
You have to admit he took the break-up pretty well, not making a scene on social media or anything like that.
@@youngpacaso3585 ofc, they broke up a long time ago 😂 janet is already dating someone else
@@mr.a9696 who?
The whole 5 stages of grief is bullshit
Being “correct” is not always “right”. Glad to see toast imparting what he learned from his relationship to his chat
No, that's such a weak short term strategy that will backfire. Don't coddle people who are letting their emotions cloud their rationality. That's how you get ruined reputations, people believing rumours, people being coddled, creating spoiled people who can't handre reality.
@@Un1234l Who said anything about coddling? You just shouldn't be an asshole, that's literally it. I love how psychopaths like you just came out of nowhere to fight people over a point which is just plain obvious to normal people.
@@Un1234l true I completly agree, the problem is some people are like that and we can't change them. For a better world we should be logic but in personal relations some people don't like to be rational. It's difficult to have a partner and be the most rational you can.
@@Un1234l Psychopathic much?
@@anitaremenarova6662 you think he is a psychopath just based on what he said. lol.
as much as I miss their stream together, I'm just glad they're still friends and not feel awkward playing together
It's funny how Bret mentioned before that he started streaming because of Toast. Little did Bret know, he actually became a bridge for them to get along as friends again. 😊 I really love their lobbies. ❤️
He really talked about many things
True
I wanna listen to the whole vod
@@noirline you can find it in his channel on Twitch I think
@@yamikagevg7841 whats his channel? I dont know what to search on twitch
@@skatershoes_4316 It's DisguisedToast (just like his RUclips channel). The stream its the last video uploaded on Twitch you will find it easily
I just love how toast is so bold and honest about everything. He doesn't sugar coat or defend himself just to look good on the eyes of everyone. He knows his flaws.
It's called not having social intelligence. He is too logical for his own good.
Not everything in life is or has to be logical.
@@LL-wu5ui what are u talking about, there is no way u watch him and think he has low social intelligence. literally yvonne, miyoung, rae. fuslie, ariasaki, celine have all said that toast has helped them so much with emotional problems and that always could rely on him, ariasaki literally said toast saved her from suicidal thoughts. i mean yes he is very logical, he is also very socially intelligent and aware tho
@UC2adTI6M67HT0cmFIJo5A4w you're a moron, he just has the BALLS to admit his mistakes and doesn't care to put himself out there. And anyway, what do you think is gonna happen? Do you think everyone would bash him? This is the exact reaction I expected from people.
@@bilbotheking5725 aaa that's not social intelligence I guess, but I don't know, more I realise I am like toast too , I am way to logical about stuff and not that emotional but still friend come to me to deal with there emotional problem , the thing is I actually just listen to them and try to comfort them and I back of my mind I am actually thinking of the solution of the problem they are facing and how to solve them. It may seem as psychotic behaviour to be emotionally detached even if you are trying to comfort other but it is what it is. They do prefer someone just to listen and give solution when they are good to listen it. But whatever this is for me , I don't know about other people.
Toast: I think it’s best for me to stay single
Chat: HAND IN MARRIAGE RN
Armyyyyyy
@BunsGlazing okay boomer ;)
@@gizzy137 that isn't the best comeback for this situation u know
@Dayanara Aniceto Carranza oh yeah sorry, I shouldnt have said anything. I was just pretty annoyed at the moment
@@gizzy137 haha funny reddit moment boomer old big chungus funny wholesome 100
I saw a quote once and it stuck with me,
“when you’re trying to fix a problem with someone, it’s you guys vs the problem, not you against the other person.”
When having an argument, you shouldn’t be upset with the person you’re going against because they have an opposing side, but rather you can be upset with the problem and work with the other person to solve it.
@@axnlogix Typically it’s not the person themselves but a quality or few about them that is the issue which are able to be grown and improved upon
@@axnlogix Hahah nice, I mean it does provide an alternate perspective anyways which is nice to have sometimes. But if it was an actual statement I think cheating is considered an action and less of a quality, and yeah no one should stay with cheaters and all that no way haha
Damn that's a great way to think about it
Thats a cool way to think and all but many people do not want to figure out the truth, they simply want to spit out whatever comes from their mouth and be right about it.
As much as you might believe you should work with them to help educate them/work out the problem, they just don't give a shit and will ignore all of the facts.
' I am not a good boyfriend'
bruh! you accepted the fact. Maybe you are not a good boyfriend but, you are a great person
basically toast is stuck in a wall where he's feeling that everything he did has consequences and it is, but he can always work on that and it will took alot of time since logical person that tries to be more rational in emotional situation is very tough
just my opinion, i don't know toast personally and neither do anyone but himself
How is that a wall???
"Be her boyfriend not her parent." is what i always heard... and i feel like i can relate to what he is saying, in respect to wanting to fix the problem vs just being there listening
when the right person comes along, toast will be willing to swallow his pride and communicate better! he’s doubting himself too much :( since he can actually say “this was my flaws in relationships” then he’s definitely matured and acknowledged his issues in relationships. he’s ready!
Oof. Hope you’re right for my sake. I’m kind of on board of staying single permanently.
Toast and Janet's break up was probably the most mature one I've ever seen
I respect that
"Being correct shouldn't be as important as being considerate" - Toast
Some wise words right here
"Just because you're correct, doesn't mean that you are right" -Emiya Shiro
2 years later and toast's words in this video still strikes me very deeply with how much I can relate to the things he said, thinking I was incapable of loving someone fully and being loved properly.
Fast forward to today and I can say I improved those faults in my character and I'm in a very much loving relationship, and this video helped me a lot in the process. Thanks toast!!
He is so smart, that he is his own therapist
Damn. This is the very reason why I stan this man. He’s well aware of his capabilities but he’s also aware when he’s wrong and he got no problem admitting when he’s wrong 🥺
I had a very similar problem with my ex. She would always call me out on lying and manipulation, but I never intentionally tried to do it. I never realized what I was doing and how negatively it affected our relationship. I felt we were doing great, but in reality I was acting like a total POS to her. I would never open up to anyone because i always felt like i annoyed anyone i talked to and felt like everyone secretly hated me so I tries not to ever make a lasting connection to them. I would never open up to her how I felt and I would bottle up all of my emotions and push it to the back of my mind. She was also the type to always be right. She realized it and tried working on it. When i was informed on what i was doing wrong i would work on it, but i would go back to doing it within a few weeks without realizing. And after the breakup I feel like an awful person for how I treated her. We are trying to stay friends, but we dont really talk to much anymore. All it is is her sending me tic toks and me reacting to them. I try and send her memes and videos that I know she would like, but she told me that she doesn't look at the video I send her. And after we broke up I still lived with her for a few weeks so I could move back in with my parents and she would always tell me to ask out a girl at a restaurant I go to frequently for my lunch because I confided in her that I believed that the girl might have a crush on me for stacking every discount on me even though I'm supposed to only get 15% off and I was the only one she does it to. She would do it just to make me mad she told me a few days before i moved out. I know now that i am not a good boyfriend and i honestly dont think i should be in a relationship until i can fix my problems. I made some friends that i can actually call friends at work and i am working on opening up to them, especially since I am going through a really tough time in my life (not relationship related). I talked to my ex about it because I needed to vent and she was giving me great advice and I'm going to take it if something does happen from my situation.
Idk why I'm posting this honestly. I just feel like I need to get it off my chest to stress less over it
this reminds me about what Ryan higa said on relationships or friendships on how they talk about problems and he just would give this solutions to the problems but what they want from him really is more empathy or someone to listen and be more of a comforting prescence.
I haven’t seen that clip but this comment hit me like a brick
Toast seems like a very unique type of person. I think I and a lot of us can relate to things that he’s saying. I think the fact he’s able to be so open with so many people shows how far he’s come on a journey we know nothing about. I wish nothing but the best for toast as he tries to be better. And I definitely agree that being intelligent is a blessing and a curse. Being in your own head so much is not fun, but again I think toast is farther than we know in his story. I’m glad he shared.
Hes definitely an INTJ type.
Toast : "But being correct shouldn't be as important as being considerate"
This actually sheds some possible light on my life. I'm in a similar situation. My sister, mom, and many friends all say that I'm always right and that it's great when it's useful but it can be really annoying because it means if they ever try to go against my thoughts they're probably wrong. I've learned when to stay quiet and let people have their own victories (being considerate over being right), but it's a slow process and it's hard to watch people be wrong when you know the correct answer or the best thing to do. I don't want to live other peoples lives, but sometimes I know the best thing to do and the other person doesn't, and that makes it difficult to exist. I let them fail, I feel bad, I tell them how not to fail, I still feel bad. Looking at my past relationships, I've definitely had the 'correct over considerate' mindset a lot, and I feel bad for many of the people who I dated and had to deal with that. Worse is that I felt like I wasn't the problem because I do everything right, but in reality being right is the wrong thing to do.
I got mad respect for that man. Its been 5 years for me, nd i still ain willin to talk bout her.
That last comment at the end, “date a dumb girl like me.” Like, damn.
Where they at. I’ll take one as long as she can hold a McDonald’s job.
It's so refreshing that someone in the public sphere is able to take accountability for their actions and POV rather than bash the other. He didn't talk about why or how Janet might have hurt him, he just spoke on what he could do better. He was able to recognize his own shortcomings and acknowledge how he could move forward in such a mature way; I think that's so admirable and commendable.
I'm in my thirties and I feel the same way in my relationships. "What's right" has formulated in my head and it becomes difficult to reconcile differences and expections in real time
this is actually super awesome to hear someone talk about from this perspective and with level of self-reflection. I feel like this mindset is a huge reason why a lot of relationships don’t work and I just think it’s really beneficial to see someone like Toast talk about it in this way. :)
i love how he manages to say "i'm really smart and always correct" but still not make it seem like he's bragging 😩
but dude props to toast for admitting this out loud
I didnt even know that Toast and Janet dated! Toast deserves love.
As soon as he mentioned being good at lying in game for a reason I knew where it was going and it hurt, because as proud as someone can be of a skill like that people don't realize it's deeper than just a game and anytime anyone says something like "you're too good" or "I really believed you" you can feel them talking through the screen. I've had to tone down my playing like that because I saw how telling it was of my lying skills and that's not something I wanted to show off anymore. And it was so nice to hear him say that because it's a real thing that you can be too logical for your or anyone's good
This was a lesson I learned when I was 15. I am a smart person but my dad is a REALLY smart person. He never realized the importance of emotional intelligence though. Watching him fumble and mess things up made me realize both why my parents got divorced and why it was better for them to be apart (to be fair it is like 70% my moms fault). My married friends gave me this advice around the same time. The most important words in a relationship isn't "I love you" the most important and difficult thing to say is "sorry I was wrong".
your comment attacked me in many ways. Idk why it took me like 3 years to feel bad for my ex, who i literally ignored just because i was scared of many things ahead. Now looking back, I haven't even said "sorry" to her, not even once. Now I'll never get the chance again, even though i'm loving her still, it was all my fault
@@PhongNguyen-bz4hj Find peace within yourself so that you can prevent this from happening again.
I wish talking about stuff like this was normalized. Everyone has a bad side, but that doesn’t mean you’re a bad person.
I wonder what janet would feel and how she react to this if she saw... Cause toast is very relatable.. for some of us who is based more on logic of what's right and wrong and if we know we're right... we'll always standby it... But after you get in a relationship you just learn to give in, swallow your pride and realize that always being right isn't always the way to make things work out.
has she seen it?
@@beasthaven1571 no I don't think so
He's so thoughtful wth. Know plenty of guys who haven't and may never reach this level of awareness. He deserves to be happy for sure. Within time that's my hope for him. Streamers don't need to share every bit of their selves with the world but I'm so glad they share the lessons they've learned
Toast is honestly incredibly smart. It blows me away every time I watch his content because he does something or says something I wouldn't be able to even fathom.
it's amazing that he's self aware
You say that as if he never was 😂
This has actually hit me a bit, past relationships I have always been stubborn and thought that because I know I’m right I shouldn’t back down as I thought it was stupid to, obviously stand up for yourself but sometimes compromising and backing down is worth more than upsetting your partner
I feel like this gave Janet a good feeling, him being honest and realising afterwards what he did wrong
Katy Sketch said it best. “I’m getting very very tired of the fact that I must be right... That’s why I’m coming home again. That’s why I’m all on my own again. That’s why I’m throwing things around my home again. That’s why I’m looking for love love.”
It takes fucking guts to admit your issues to not only yourself but online. It even takes more guts to want to stop doing something and work on yourself i already respected him but this takes it to a new level
I really respect his honesty. It's great that he worked it out this far and I truly hope that Toasty will find the balance in life🤴
"Being right shouldn't be as important as being considerate." I love that. This man is amazing.
"Being smart is a curse."
I felt that 😐
this guy fucking cracks me up. All about progress man and I'm glad I am able to see something change at least
He's just a very good person you can tell even if he may not work well in romantic relationships he's got a self awareness that makes him a good person that i think is hard to find in people.
You know what we call that?
Growth
Character development 😂
“Because I’m right 90% of the time “ -Toast 😂
"theres a reason why i'm good at among us"
Did he just do the arcadum thing but with less cringe?
Opinionated people hate being wrong or told their cold logical opinions aren't okay.
why? if the logic isn't flawd pushing for your logic opinion is the best thing for everyone. Putting emotions in logical decisions is part of the problem that makes this world be a shit hole.
@@paulgotik There's nothing wrong with thinking logically. Like, at all lol. It's when someone who values THEIR opinion over someone else's regardless if they really are right or not. Toastie just said he's right 90% of the time. The problem isn't because he's right, it's his arrogance that is what is a flaw with opinionated people. As he said, he's not boyfriend material. Why? Because it sounds like he values being right over anything else.
@@AA-bk1oe Again, people like you focus too much on seeing that as a negative - and seem to dismiss the other side of things, if he finds himself being right constantly then there is clearly a problem with the other person in terms of intelligence or emotional opinions - the other person also needs to grow as a person and knowledge wise before even arguing - there are 2 sides to being stubborn, those who are right but are too condescending and those who are wrong yet continue to argue despite lack of effort into research etc.
Based on this, he makes janet sound like a person that argues emotionally with lack of effort into the logical aspects of an argument. And while he basically says that he was too focused on correcting her, it's also exhausting if people are constantly wrong yet don't humble themselves and put more effort into learning.
@@CrimsonHeart3 The person who needs to humble themselves is Toast. People like me huh. Lmao...I'm opinionated. That's why i said what i said. What you're saying is describing someone who assumes they're right all the time. Which is very debateable. There's clearly a lack of humbleness here and likeability. Why do you think Toast is always complaining?
@@paulgotik I don’t think it’s a logic issue. I’m pretty logical person, myself, too and whenever I argue with some one, I think I’m right because I have my own way of doing things and thought process. But once the argument cools down, I consider the other’s perspective and maybe I don’t agree with their way or opinion. But I think about it Toast may be right and justified, but I think at the time, Janet’s opinions and thoughts is justified too. They just thought of things differently. Logic is important, but I feel like another thing is having a mutual respect for the other’s opinion even if you think they’re wrong. I’m not going to guess or theorize what actually went wrong in their relationship, but I do think base on Toast, one was being too logical in an argument and the other had their own opinions which she wanted Toast to understand and consider. It’s a relationship, not some computer system. So, emotions will come to play during an argument. Both sides just have to work out the issues together.
There's logic and then there's emotions. But there's also Wisdom, the perfect balance of both. Toast, noticing these flaws is incredibly humbling to see. Viewers idolise their streamers when they all have faults like us. Thats why dont take sides when two streamers, celebrities etc break up or terminate a friendship. There are reasons in their personal life that contribute to break ups that we would never find out about and should not know.
I love how he understands his flaws and is working on it but JOAST WAS SO CUTE I MISS IT SO MUCH but seriously this very mature.
Yeah, some things are not worth fighting over. Pick your battles. You're right, it's often not about who's right, but about being able to enjoy the journey together.
As someone who is highly logical and rarely emotional. I know exactly what you mean. I just got out of a 3 year relationship and one of the biggest reasons was my inability to be emotional. But honestly, I don't care because I am who I am. I can't change certain parts about myself. Being logical is a core value and changing that for someone is giving up a piece of myself I'm not willing to give. I would rather find someone else who is logical as well, or at least someone who ok being with someone logical. Good luck to you toast. You will find someone just as logical as you, and it will piss you off, but you'll love her for it.
I knew a guy friend like you and Toast once upon a time ago. Waaay too logical and thinks they are right all the time. Smart. Very manipulative and a liar. Almost narcissistic. Not saying you and Toast are exactly like this, take what is and throw the rest out. But the way he treated woman he was dating was shitty as hell. SMH. I think men in these cases should learn how to love themselves first and definitely go to therapy.
But I definitely agree that you should date someone as logical as you. Guys like you are not very empathetic tbh and most females are.
@@WallFlower08 damn was that guy you knew my ex? Hope it’s not all too common
i do agree with what he said especially when he saids ''its very hard to date someone who thinks their always right.'' now i had an ex who always thought he was right and his way was the only way which did bother me a lot. and i also have a sister who thinks shes always right and its emotionally draining.
I think the break up and his dad's illness has made him realise what his priorities are and it has made him grow up
Honestly this is exactly what I needed to hear today, I always use logic during arguments or issues with my girlfriend and have trouble considering the issue from an emotional stand point
if ever toast will have a girlfriend that stays and understands him for a very long time, or even outwits him, I think that girl must be amazing. (Janet is an amazing girl and I know that she was a good gf to toast, but you know there are things that we call 'destiny' or 'very compatible' relationship. I just thought that one day toast will meet the girl who will make him meet her in between)
Plus maybe he needed that growth so that the one day he meets the real deal he’ll be prepared. For example Lily has grown a shit ton after the unfortunate events and found Michael.
why u putting the blame on the girl? why cant u just say that his behaviour is toxic? he even accepted it himself lmao it really doesnt matter how great the girl is, if he doesnt work on himself for this issue, it wont workout with any girls
@Olivier Simon Ikr nobody was even blaming Janet tf?! The mental gymnastics this girl is pulling 😂
@Olivier Simon the op literally says if toast finds a girl that stays and supports him for a long time???? meaning that his ex wasnt like that. thats why i wrote the blaming part. and yes he is growing and good for him. i didnt wanna come off as someone who is not recognizing that. all i was talking about was his previous state.
I have soooooo much respect for him for the fact that he can openly admit this and therefore avoid relationships until he can better support his partners. Like THAT is maturity, acknowledging you’re flaws and actively working to better yourself. Love toast!
damn that was hella mature of him, as usual. he seems to have some scary deep thoughts, the type that would makes ppl overthink and spiral when lying in bed trying to sleep and that thought worries me sometimes
Honest guy. Kinda felt like i needed to hear that to question myself. Sometimes people just need that missing jigsaw piece.
As a stubborn person I can agree on how he feels 😞
the fact that he recognized his flaws and is so mature to admit it shows that he is growing as a person
aww toast :,( i respect him so much.
My boyfriend is like this too. He learned very quickly that my emotions are to me what logic is to him. Poor toast shouldn’t give up on being a boyfriend. I’m sure he will be ready some time
He spoke to my heart.
Toast talking about using his wise mind! I Hope you can heal friend!
Purple Guy with Glowing Stone: you're not the only one cursed with knowledge
Toast: My only curse is you
Relatable.
I'll explain further.
I consider myself always right aswell although i clearly know i can be wrong sometimes..
And being a logical thinker and calm most of the time and being good at explaining and defining your point.,
You know that your partner or anyone for that matter are not gonna enjoy being proven wrong most of the time.
Abd you know that and you have the choise of not being a 'smart ass' all the time.
But that's not very fun for you either. Suppressing all that power all the time..
It's hard.
yeah, i often regret pushing too much when i was right about silly things
I didn't even know they used to be together. Also, I really relate with Toast being more logical in relationships, and lacking that emotional connection. I'm too direct with my questions so that nothing can be misinterpreted, and I come off as very methodical and scripted with any relationship in general. Also, my logic can sometimes make me dismiss the validity of a person's emotions. Saying, if a person gets personally attacked by something I did that wasn't intended to be taken personally. I'll tell them "you have no reason to take it personally if you had a better understanding of the intention of the message" which is true, sure, but I'm also directly saying that that person has no right to feel, even if it's a misunderstanding. And that's just one of a plethora of issues I have
I respect Toast a lot, he's not afraid to speak in front of thousands and thousands of people.
At least he knows his mistakes and is working to improve himself
And i respect than
This shows how great of a human being toast is. His self awareness. His surroundings. He’ll sacrifice a lot just to make things right even if it’ll hurt him emotionally. Hopefully he’ll find the one soon
My respect for Toast just increased from this video alone
OMG YES! It’s so true, I don’t need to explain how accurate his words are, but lemme tell you this man deserve respect!
And this is what we call a healthy relationship!! Both agreed to go separate ways when thing weren’t working out, but still cared for each other to make amends and grow from their relationship. No toxicity, no miscommunication, no drama, period! Now they’re just fellow streamer buds who play among us with eachother and can joke about their past ^^ 👍
I think they play more WoW Shadowlands together than Among Us.
I did not know that Janet and Toast used to date. But realizing our flaws and mistakes and being able to reflect on ourselves just makes us a better person. Im glad he realized his mistakes though.
Tbh janet just needs a needy guy. She had so many boyfriends that pay little attention to her. Shroud, wildturtle, toast. All spend their life on a computer. Janet was truly happy when she did duo streams with toast. Her love language is obviously quality time.
Wait shroud dated her??? Or you just used it as an random example
She never dated shroud????
Shroud? What?
I'm confused af
but I guess you meant people like toast spends their life on a computer