I just got back to LF after 30 years and I didn't use my old Burke & James 4x5 that much, so I REALLY needed this video! I have a 4x5 Tower branded press camera I bought for $45US and a Calumet 4x5 cased set. Am working on still life's for now.
Every video I've watched about movements does the same thing. They quickly show what the various movements look like on the camera, but fail to show the resulting effects on an image. I realize that showing the image is a lot more work, but it's far more important (at least to me) to be able to visualize the result of a movement. That way I'd learn the all-important "when".
I totally agree with you, that’s why I have other videos showing the effects, this video is only giving examples of movements that can be done with a L/C camera, check out my others large format videos, also if you have a L/F camera you could always try out the movements in this video to see in real life the effect they give, regards Martin
Hi, so I’ve recently purchased a MPP MK VI, it hasn’t arrived yet but through research I’ve found out that it doesn’t have front standard forward tilt (only back) but it has front and backwards tilt on the back standard. Can I use the back standard to manipulate the depth of field in a portrait for example? Or would I just use the backward tilt on the front standard? Also, if I put the camera on its side, could I then use the front swing, as what would essentially be, front tilt? Sorry if I’ve done a terrible job at explains that haha
I understand what your saying, to move the plan of focus to increase depth of field has to be done on the front standard tilting the lens down, it will not alter horizontal or vertical lines it only effects depth of field, the rear standard has some control of DOF however, it will distort perspective, lines will converge slightly, objects will look nearer or further away depending on how you tilt it . To manipulate the DOF in a portrait front standard tilts are better again because you have control over DOF Yes you can put it on its side, but, it will be a different movement to Axis tilt were the lens moves the plan of focus, your still affectively using Swing by moving all the front standard including the lens. Hope that clarifies it for you
@@nicosmithphotos You might be able too, maybe google that question I am sure you might find and answer, would this help I found on the web "its an easy fix i just got to drill 2 new holes and slot them towards the back of the standard uprights to hold the locking screws ill need the forward tilt when i use it i wondered why it didnt exist already"
@@nicosmithphotos In a portrait you could use the movement to just get a narrow plain of focus were the eyes are in focus and all the rest is OOF, it can be used for creating diorama effect as well, making objects look like toys
I'm hesitating between the Chamonix N2 and the F2. I like the big knobs of the N2 that makes it easier to handle with gloves in the winter but I also like the concentric knobs of the F2 for that separate functionality of the rise/fall and swing of the front standard. Have you found that having the same knob to control rise and swing to be a nuisance on your N2? Also, great video, but it would have been great to have pictures and see what all those movements actually do!
Sorry you found it this way, at least you now have an idea or reference to what each movement is called, and if you have LF camera you could try them, thanks
I just got back to LF after 30 years and I didn't use my old Burke & James 4x5 that much, so I REALLY needed this video! I have a 4x5 Tower branded press camera I bought for $45US and a Calumet 4x5 cased set. Am working on still life's for now.
So helpful!! Thank you for this! A hundred videos on large format on RUclips and only this one that explains the movements properly
sir brillant video this old shooter me learned new tricks thank you.you are a fine teacher.76 year old yank here.
Every video I've watched about movements does the same thing. They quickly show what the various movements look like on the camera, but fail to show the resulting effects on an image. I realize that showing the image is a lot more work, but it's far more important (at least to me) to be able to visualize the result of a movement. That way I'd learn the all-important "when".
I totally agree with you, that’s why I have other videos showing the effects, this video is only giving examples of movements that can be done with a L/C camera, check out my others large format videos, also if you have a L/F camera you could always try out the movements in this video to see in real life the effect they give, regards Martin
Totally agree. Show a simple example of what the image will look like with movement and without movement.
Or watch this video by Mr. Newman, that shows the effects of the various movements on an image/ subject ruclips.net/video/0JU-eHpk97Y/видео.html
Many thanks Martin. Interesting and informative as always. Best wishes from Y Rhondda.
Krásne vysvetlené , len treba upozorniť na to , či váš objektív vykreslí takýto enormne veľký kruh....prajem veľ zdravia vo vašej krásej právi.
Once again thank you
Great information, well explained. Thank you
Just getting into 5x4 so found this really helpful, thanks :)
will the guide lines on the ground glass help in controlling parallel lines?
Yes ,as long as the camera is level with no movements
Excellent tutorials on large format just brilliant. What movements do you recommend for portrait studio work?
Front standard tilt slightly up or down for selective focus, no rules just experiment, thanks
Hi, so I’ve recently purchased a MPP MK VI, it hasn’t arrived yet but through research I’ve found out that it doesn’t have front standard forward tilt (only back) but it has front and backwards tilt on the back standard. Can I use the back standard to manipulate the depth of field in a portrait for example? Or would I just use the backward tilt on the front standard? Also, if I put the camera on its side, could I then use the front swing, as what would essentially be, front tilt? Sorry if I’ve done a terrible job at explains that haha
I understand what your saying, to move the plan of focus to increase depth of field has to be done on the front standard tilting the lens down, it will not alter horizontal or vertical lines it only effects depth of field, the rear standard has some control of DOF however, it will distort perspective, lines will converge slightly, objects will look nearer or further away depending on how you tilt it .
To manipulate the DOF in a portrait front standard tilts are better again because you have control over DOF
Yes you can put it on its side, but, it will be a different movement to Axis tilt were the lens moves the plan of focus, your still affectively using Swing by moving all the front standard including the lens.
Hope that clarifies it for you
@@martinhensonphotography Is it possible to modify the camera so it can tilt forward?
@@martinhensonphotography Also, why does only tilting the front standard down increase the depth of field? what does tilting the front standard up do?
@@nicosmithphotos You might be able too, maybe google that question I am sure you might find and answer, would this help I found on the web
"its an easy fix i just got to drill 2 new holes and slot them towards the back of the standard uprights to hold the locking screws
ill need the forward tilt when i use it i wondered why it didnt exist already"
@@nicosmithphotos In a portrait you could use the movement to just get a narrow plain of focus were the eyes are in focus and all the rest is OOF, it can be used for creating diorama effect as well, making objects look like toys
Excellent video Martin. Can you suggest movements that might be useful for portraiture (classic hero shot from below, etc.) Thank you.
Very helpful, thank you Martin
Excellent! Thank you!
Great tutorial! Thanks a lot.
i love it! very helpful.
Thanks a nice video
I’m so sold, I’m getting one.
I'm hesitating between the Chamonix N2 and the F2. I like the big knobs of the N2 that makes it easier to handle with gloves in the winter but I also like the concentric knobs of the F2 for that separate functionality of the rise/fall and swing of the front standard. Have you found that having the same knob to control rise and swing to be a nuisance on your N2? Also, great video, but it would have been great to have pictures and see what all those movements actually do!
Yes I do find it awkward sometimes. The idea behind showing the movements is for LF users to try them, best way to learn , thank you
It will be great to hav3 some photo as example . But thanks.
Very informative, thanks :)
honestly, without at least a picture of the groundglass this is pretty worthless.
Sorry you found it this way, at least you now have an idea or reference to what each movement is called, and if you have LF camera you could try them, thanks