PAIA FATMAN BACK FROM THE DEAD
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I'm not quite sure how it's possible to snap the middle leg of a regulator without snapping the other two, but well done finding it!
When he flipped the board over at 1:45, the first thing I noticed was the weird footprint on those regulators. Those offset center TO-220s are quite obsolete at this point, so you have to shape the center lead to get it into its home. And just to make sure it fails, they added a chunk of metal out at the end, to really dial in the natural oscillation frequency, and get maximum ringing every time the module gets bumped. This is my guess, anyway.
@@joshmyer9 yup. Anything on a circuit board with weight that dangles on the end of its leads will eventually vibrate enough to crack the solder joints. Pro tip: when TV remotes fail, it is almost always due to cracked solder on the IR LED, which is generally suspended in mid-air off the board. Same thing with those chintzy TO-220 "heat sinks" provided by PAiA for this project - they really should be screwed down on the board!
The TO-220 form factor is indeed obsolete in manufacturing, but since those 78xx ICs are the simplest means to a reasonably well-regulated power supply, they remain popular in the DIY community. They will always be available for DIY and as repair parts.
That thing sounds GREAT!. It was also quite nice to point out all those common mistakes that accumulated from previous repair attempts. It's like repairing several things in the future, without having to dig up all those insect graveyards yourself.
I built the tabletop version over 25 years ago.
Still in the studio!
Now I understand what a recap means and why mine doesn't sound quite right at the moment.
Sam, you are both an electronics wizard and a music wizard! Great job!!!
It's a joy for me to see someone like Look Mum dude propagate interest in old stuff that was new to me when it first came out.
What follows is a boomer moment.
I forget which one, but the "Fatman" was a project detailed down to the circuit board "silkscreen" and panel layout in either "Recording," "Electronic Musician," or maybe even "Popular Electronics" magazines. Various items to aid in assembling some of the pro audio projects these magazines featured were made available from PAiA Electronics including paper print manuals with in depth use instructions (available separately if that was all you wanted if you missed that edition of the featuring magazine.) They also had complete kits for the projects in Craig Anderton's "Electronic Projects for Musicians" or just the printed PC boards. As well as stomp boxes, and "Studio Series" gear like compressors, gates and others. Most of which could be made from instructions in occasional editions of the aforementioned magazines.
I came in to building DIY music electronics at the tail end of the availability of the CEM 600 optoisolator AND the Fairchild 4739 dual op-amp that "EP for Ms" used in almost all of it's projects. The only mail order place I could find that had it in stock Fairchild 4739s (for cheap compared to PAiA) was All Electronics who sent me their last seven (for a price break order of ten) and refunded the difference by including bills and coins in my order.
I also got one of the last two Craig Anderton designed "Phlangers" from PAiA that used a bucket brigade device chip. I really wanted to get two, but stupid and all that.
It's a little bleaker than it was not too long ago, but things have gone full circle with the availability of parts. Most significantly Curtis Electromusic (CEM) VCOs, VCOs, ADSRs, Octal/multi Sample&Hold chips etc... and bucket brigade device chips (with two and four times as many steps) are available once again and way cheaper since the patents on these chips have expired and tooling up for runs of different chips has gotten cheaper.
Although I knew of the concept of modular analog synthesis mostly through back copies of "Polyphony" magazine I bought from PAiA, the difficulty of obtaining CEM chips, not to mention how intimidating learning electronics on my own seemed, the idea of building a synth just seemed out of reach, what with a Korg M1 and an Amiga 2000 running Bars and Pipes MIDI sequencing software over a one in three out MIDI dongle AND a Roland R8, my original synth, a Prophet 600 hardly made analog synthesis seem worthwhile.
Kids always get better toys.
Man, I wanted to build a Fatman so badly back in the day. Nice to hear one in action.
These days we are absolutely spoiled for choice when it comes to affordable gear
Woop yeah saturation atm! Good tho!
That is a truly delightful filter. Nice and squelchy.
Another successful repair. Well done!
You smoothed it out really well. Love the ending part of a hard days work
Nice work. Your patience is commendable. I remember buying Paia kits back in the 90's. The Fatman is legendary. Good to hear they are still going strong!
I bought a table top version off some guy on the internet for $50 and he told me that the digital side isn’t working. I need to order a power supply for this thing and see what I get. I’m glad I came across this video Sam, perhaps I’ll be experiencing the same problems as you did. Thanks for posting this.
I kind of liked the sound it had halfway through the restoration
That's where my Fatman is at at the moment and I'm reluctant to fix it at the moment.
I've got a few analog synths still laying around waiting to be fixed up.
Keep posting and i might eventually get motivated!
normally not into this kind of thing but those drip noises at ~9m really grabbed my attention, got some phonetic sounds in there that are real nice too
respect to your repair skills!
Just got lucky with this one haha
Such amazing progress. I hope all you figure out everything you want to figure out.
This was my first synth build somewhere around 97-98. Made a mess of it, but it worked. Loved that thing
It sounds really good. I love the filter!
That thing sounds very mesmerising.. I love it! Nice job!
PAIA... please partner with Sam.... and sponsor him. The two of you were meant for each other.
Awesome seeing you repair something! Very inspiring. Thanks and all the best, Tobi
Great work on getting it working dude , great video as always Sam , take care dude 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Perseverance paid off.
Great work!
Sounds good and squelchy
I love it, well done!
My first synth, back in 1998! Wish I still had it.
I have a Fatman. It was the first DIY synth I built. I haven’t used it in a while though.
Gives a good, meaty sound...
When you started to get those squelching tones out of that thing my jaw dropped
Squelchy shoes
I am so happy to see this vid; I have that same Paia Fatman and mine needs a bit of work as well...
Bravo. That's a sweet little synth, too.
Aw man I was hoping to keep PAIA my own little secret and now the cat’s outta the bag. Always wanted one of these. I have a PAIA tube head, rack compressor and stereo spring king. I bought all of them used and previously assembled tho.
paia aint no secret really. its one of the biggest synth kit manufactures of the past 4 decades. but they is good!
That looks like a awesome synth box. Great fix 👍
I really liked the sound before you replaced the broken 7812. That riff around @6:14 was really good.
Aha alas canny have it all. It's a semi tone down so I guess can play the jaws theme anyways :D
Wow this Fatman lives up to its name. Great acquisition , think I want one now ❤❤❤😃😃😃
That's got a fantastic sound. Gave me doctor who vibes
I have so much broken PAiA man ....
What an awesome sound you can mix up live on the dials when you want to mate! 👍 Awesome. Great repairs too, well done.
My god, that sounds excellent! Might just need to get one..
You mean build ... 😊
You're such a circuit-whisperer! Incredible
I whisper but a lot of the time they don't listen
Actually got given one of these yesterday! No idea if it works but has been built well....
Sounds SWEET!
I'd love to see this place in person.... It looks like a blast from the past. 😎
The Museum? Its thoroughly reommended
This is bonzer, always like a bit of troubleshooting, adds to the experience 👍
Nice!
5:46 Change the label on the front panel to "FART MAN". Fixed
I kinda liked how it sounded on 6:15.
You are a madman!!!
I'm still.playing catchup with my electronics.
OK that was badass.
Oh I remember that now.
Man that sounds great.
Put that through a fat soundsetup and youll.move people
This museum is Knobsolete!
PAIA, originally out of Oklahoma!
I like!!
This thing sounds good. Surprisingly, the schematic shows that the VCOs are built around 555 timers!
Nice! I hadn't looked I did see a 555 however wasn't aware it was in vco! Nice!
What you printin bro?
I have wanted to get a Fatman for so long... but my apartment is too small to store stuff like that. [sob]
hey, i am in the process of building a fatman, and i really need to know if it would be a good idea to replace the rcas with mini jacks to use with a modular synth or so? anyone could help me here?
you meant hex inverter, i guess.
Very good sounding machine.
Yea but used as buffers usually cheers
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER wel depends.
if you need an inverter and you have 5 inverter left over and don't wanna waste space on the pcb for an extra IC, you use 2 inverters to create a buffer otherwise a CD4050 or an And gate, etc.
they used that in the "original" midi schematic, the 74HC14 and that's why i have them too and probably you too.
But now a day you have single versions, little logic by Texas Instruments or Tiny logic by Nexperia, Eagle has a Library with them.
@@AnalogDude_ yep thanks analog dude!
I had one of these. Never got it to work properly!
The company's website seems to be down and they aren't responding to my emails 😢
Suck that solder up, Sam! Lovely stuff. I didn't even know that PAiA is still around.
Aha! Yep still gojng strong! Check their site it's slamming :)
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Wouldn't be surprised if they ran out of FatMan kits soon.
Has the Museum ever broken out yet into a Kids from Fame-style collective jam?!
Hahahaha not quite but who knows it could happen!
That decay is just.
Oh hypnotic
I have one of these I built as a kit a year ago or so, but the release control just keeps the note stuck on rather than the fade off if you go a little past zero on the potentiometer for I think 5 notes per octave. Any idea what the issue could be?
Not sure I thought I replied. Power supply possible. As vco and envelope not connected in any way
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER I'm just using an off the shelf 12vac power brick, might try find another and compare, thanks for the advice!
Outro sounded familiar, I think it sounded like the never ending story palace music
The algorithm blessed me with your other channel years ago. Just blessed me with this one recently... It kinda failed me...
I agree, that thing sounds PHAT! Amazing. I've been disappointed by some other PAIA kits. (The vocoder was mediocre.)
Oooh I gotta track down a vocoder and see how mediocre it is! Can't be worse than the korg vc10
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Haha... Sam if anyone could make a PAIA vocoder sound crunchy, it would be YOU!
What's the name of the song in the outro, please?
Sarabande ruclips.net/video/suFMi8VHopQ/видео.html
@@riggidyboo 🧡
what happend to the TS199, whats the replacement?
TS100
Ts100 kept turning off constantly and had to turn it on and on again. It happenned after a year of having it and same happenned before with the last one. It's a great soldering iron but I felt for a change went for a hakko
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER , think mine is 18 months old at least and ok. but obviously not used daily.
I watched this the moment it came up, a synth, by Fat Man sound system? Is it a mega dub siren? Non of of those but as ever an interesting video and it sounded Fat and funky like an analogue synth should.
3:30 that happened to a transistor on my doepfer 103 filter. I dropped my entire eurorack case on top of it.
I fixed it though.
Having a weird time work some of your videos coming up twice in a row on my feed. I have checked it’s not a community post so I’m confused. It doesn’t look like the problem I had with another channel actually plugging his brothers channel and the indication was hard to see
Weird... FWIW, the video only appeared once in my YT feed, in the US on Android, same with all Sam's vids, for me.
It’s happening on an iPhone but not on iPad. Weird
Those heatsinks are sketchy AF
The fact that the oscillator and envelope generator are not connecting if it only does it for half of an octave no Idea. Look at things that are shared like powet
Sorry replied to wrong comment eek