@@michaelsommers2356 - Yep, ASCII is 7-bit code, while early teletype, used 5-bit Baudot. ASCII now, is a subset of Unicode (1 to multiple bytes per character). Somewhere on the Internet, is an ASCII rendition of Starwars. Came out in the early Internet days.
@@michaelsommers2356 True, but "ASCII Art" is still the generic name for it due to the prevalence of ASCII during the time period where this was most popular. It's still called ASCII Art today, even when most of it is now really Unicode.
I was an ET back in the 80s that worked on radio transmitters. Our operator area always had teletypes. There was a time that the chad produced cutting ribbons found their way into a box rigged to fall on someone coming through the door. We were still finding it months later. People stationed on coral atolls get a little bored sometimes.
I was in Vietnam in 67-68 with an intel unit and working in the comm center as trick chief, among the stations in our net was an Aussie intel unit and at Christmas the operator sent something similar but it was Santa on sled with reindeer on the teletype circuit. The paper was yellow at that time and had several carbons and copies. Due to the damp weather the paper would jam after a turn and ruin the message except for the top copy.
As others have stated, that is ASCII art, not an emoticon. ASCII art actually predates the advent of the American Standard Code for Information Interchange by about 100 years. Before then it was called typewriter art, the first examples being made about a century before this one.
This video surprised me! Back in the mid 80's when I was in Junior High, Our school got Apple computers and they started computer literacy classes. As an assignment, we had to write code for and print out a message that contained no more than 14 words. The end result looked very similar to the teletype message with the picture. It was probably alot easier for the crew in the radio room even though it was in the late 60's . I remember it took us almost all semester to write the code for our stupid messages!!!!!
Emoticons (originally "smileys" until the early 2000s) were invented in 1982-1983. The same Carnegie Mellon BBS backup tapes that captured that conversation, also referenced IPv4 "Flag Day", or the day the Internet converted to IPv4.
At least it didn't have a spellchecker and what you typed was what you got . It must have been pretty advanced and reliable to be retained up to the 90s .
I used the same basic model of teletype machine at various USAF bases in the USA and Japan in the 1990's. During my time at Yokota AB, Japan, I worked in a major communications center at Yokota. I believe it had the largest message traffic count of any base in the Pacific. During a major exercise in 1995 involving Korea, the OCR machine broke down (I broke it), and we had to go to manual transcription of messages onto paper tape. We all got to exercise our typing skills using the backup teletype machines. The Comm Center NCO in charge said that he had used the same teletype machines when he was there 25 years before.
clear up to past 1995 we always got our news feed on teletype. The RMs would tune in to the news broadcast and let the printer run for half hour or so. Then switch to another channel and do the same thing. they got distributed to various locations on the ship including Chiefs Mess Wardroom and Mess Decks. of course if you had a hookup you could get a roll at different times and locations. IE the night cook in the bakery always had fresh donuts which were hot barter items .
Creating images with multiple lines of text is more commonly known as ASCII art. It's tricky to do in RUclips comments though, since the characters aren't monospaced like a telex machine is.
@@michaelsommers2356 Is this an infinite disagreement? I haven't a clue which one of y'all is right. And if it is Baudot, I don't know what Baudot is either.
I remember MOD-28s , TGC-29s, TGC-14s and IIRC and obsolete TGC-3(?) from my days in the Marine Corps. The 14 and the 29(?) had gears you could change to set the baud rate/words per minute
New technology is rarely new. Unless it is your hobby, then you just don't know about it until someone finds a reason to mass produce it to the masses. The great advancements in electronics since around WW2 came from making components and circuitry smaller, more rugged, cheaper, and more energy efficient. One integrated circuit has replaced a large warehouse filled with vacuum tubes.
"Dear NEPP: Do you see those artillery batteries? We don't want to. Thanks" For real, does NEPP stand for anything? I'm guessing it's just a randomly assigned code, but I could be wrong.
Yes, it is random. Here are the WWII-era callsigns for the Iowa class: NEPP - New Jersey NEPM - Iowa NCBL - Missouri NUGW - Wisconsin All Navy ship callsigns started with an 'N', and had four letters; shore stations had three.
Call signs generally didn't stand for anything. The only exceptions I remember were for some, but not all, carriers. Guess which ships were NJFK, NMTZ, or NUSA.
@@JustSomeCanuck each duty station is assigned a 4 letter callsign and a codeword callsign . IE USS Princeton CG59 got assigned the most epic in the stupid sense Princeton Tiger.
Sorry, that isn't emoticons. That's ASCII art, which has existed since shortly after ASCII became a standard for computerized text, around 1963. The first ASCII art made its appearance in 1966, and was created by Kenneth Knowlton, an employee of Bell Labs. It was titled "Computer Nude (Studies in Perception I)" and was widely circulated. VERY cool find though!
I forget that Ryan is so young he's never taken an old school electric typing class 😅 We did exercises all the time in the 7th grade making pictures like this on a typewriter. I don't think emojis and emoticons are the right names? 🤷♂️
Well it used to be called ASCII Art and emoji's were just a couple characters that often made a face like smiley :) or laugh :D etc. :P Unfortunately HTML format forums like RUclipss comment sections really killed off this type of simple artwork. I tried to get one to work here but it just gets all squished and seriously messed up looking.
This would actually be considered ASCII Art (American Standard Code for Information Interchange), not an emoticon. Though "modern" text emoticons in digital network communications like smiley :) tongue :P heart
This is not ASCII, was not used in teletype at that time period by the Navy, it was Baudot which predates ASCII. This would actually be considered Baudot art. ;)
You know you're getting old when the things of your youth show up as antiques. At 76 it's happening more and more....
Great find! Love that stuff.
That is genuinely such a cool artifact
This is an example of "ASCII Art"
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
The navy didn't use ASCII. Messages were sent using Baudot (also known as Murray) code.
We were making these in typing classes on electric typewriters when I was in school 😂
@@michaelsommers2356 - Yep, ASCII is 7-bit code, while early teletype, used 5-bit Baudot. ASCII now, is a subset of Unicode (1 to multiple bytes per character).
Somewhere on the Internet, is an ASCII rendition of Starwars. Came out in the early Internet days.
@@michaelsommers2356 True, but "ASCII Art" is still the generic name for it due to the prevalence of ASCII during the time period where this was most popular. It's still called ASCII Art today, even when most of it is now really Unicode.
I was an ET back in the 80s that worked on radio transmitters. Our operator area always had teletypes. There was a time that the chad produced cutting ribbons found their way into a box rigged to fall on someone coming through the door. We were still finding it months later. People stationed on coral atolls get a little bored sometimes.
Old school ASCII art! Love it!
I was in Vietnam in 67-68 with an intel unit and working in the comm center as trick chief, among the stations in our net was an Aussie intel unit and at Christmas the operator sent something similar but it was Santa on sled with reindeer on the teletype circuit. The paper was yellow at that time and had several carbons and copies. Due to the damp weather the paper would jam after a turn and ruin the message except for the top copy.
That, my friends, is known as a Mod-28, or an AN/UGC-49.
I worked with those for a bit over a decade.
ASCII art, absolutely awesome :)
As others have stated, that is ASCII art, not an emoticon. ASCII art actually predates the advent of the American Standard Code for Information Interchange by about 100 years. Before then it was called typewriter art, the first examples being made about a century before this one.
The navy didn't use ASCII. Messages were sent using Baudot (also known as Murray) code.
A brilliant early example of ASCII Art before the current standards organisation had it's current name, and ASCII was in its early days as a standard.
The navy didn't use ASCII. Messages were sent using Baudot (also known as Murray) code.
HI RYAN,, THANK YOU TO THE DONATION ,, OF THIS GREAT PIECE OF HISTORY.. THX.
Very cool...
This video surprised me! Back in the mid 80's when I was in Junior High, Our school got Apple computers and they started computer literacy classes. As an assignment, we had to write code for and print out a message that contained no more than 14 words. The end result looked very similar to the teletype message with the picture. It was probably alot easier for the crew in the radio room even though it was in the late 60's . I remember it took us almost all semester to write the code for our stupid messages!!!!!
Incredible that was done painstakingly
Never under estimate the mind of a board enlisted person.
Smart Sailors aboard New Jersey !
Awesome!
That is so cool! Great find, really awesome someone donated that to the museum.
Emoticons (originally "smileys" until the early 2000s) were invented in 1982-1983. The same Carnegie Mellon BBS backup tapes that captured that conversation, also referenced IPv4 "Flag Day", or the day the Internet converted to IPv4.
At least it didn't have a spellchecker and what you typed was what you got . It must have been pretty advanced and reliable to be retained up to the 90s .
We used Telex messaging into the 90s due to the price of an overseas phone call.
Punch a tape of that 'message' so you can print yourself, from time to time. Maybe even make prints to sell in the gift shop.
My first computer printer was a teletype.
Wow, very creative ❤
I used the same basic model of teletype machine at various USAF bases in the USA and Japan in the 1990's. During my time at Yokota AB, Japan, I worked in a major communications center at Yokota. I believe it had the largest message traffic count of any base in the Pacific. During a major exercise in 1995 involving Korea, the OCR machine broke down (I broke it), and we had to go to manual transcription of messages onto paper tape. We all got to exercise our typing skills using the backup teletype machines. The Comm Center NCO in charge said that he had used the same teletype machines when he was there 25 years before.
clear up to past 1995 we always got our news feed on teletype. The RMs would tune in to the news broadcast and let the printer run for half hour or so. Then switch to another channel and do the same thing. they got distributed to various locations on the ship including Chiefs Mess Wardroom and Mess Decks. of course if you had a hookup you could get a roll at different times and locations. IE the night cook in the bakery always had fresh donuts which were hot barter items .
Creating images with multiple lines of text is more commonly known as ASCII art. It's tricky to do in RUclips comments though, since the characters aren't monospaced like a telex machine is.
The navy didn't use ASCII. Messages were sent using Baudot (also known as Murray) code.
@@michaelsommers2356 Is this an infinite disagreement? I haven't a clue which one of y'all is right. And if it is Baudot, I don't know what Baudot is either.
I remember MOD-28s , TGC-29s, TGC-14s and IIRC and obsolete TGC-3(?) from my days in the Marine Corps. The 14 and the 29(?) had gears you could change to set the baud rate/words per minute
Love the hoppes no.9 oil by the machine, lol.
Love it
New technology is rarely new. Unless it is your hobby, then you just don't know about it until someone finds a reason to mass produce it to the masses. The great advancements in electronics since around WW2 came from making components and circuitry smaller, more rugged, cheaper, and more energy efficient. One integrated circuit has replaced a large warehouse filled with vacuum tubes.
We had teletype in the State School, sent and received my first phone call there on the machine. It can be noisy.
"Dear NEPP: Do you see those artillery batteries? We don't want to. Thanks"
For real, does NEPP stand for anything? I'm guessing it's just a randomly assigned code, but I could be wrong.
Yes, it is random. Here are the WWII-era callsigns for the Iowa class:
NEPP - New Jersey
NEPM - Iowa
NCBL - Missouri
NUGW - Wisconsin
All Navy ship callsigns started with an 'N', and had four letters; shore stations had three.
Call signs generally didn't stand for anything. The only exceptions I remember were for some, but not all, carriers. Guess which ships were NJFK, NMTZ, or NUSA.
@@JustSomeCanuck each duty station is assigned a 4 letter callsign and a codeword callsign . IE USS Princeton CG59 got assigned the most epic in the stupid sense Princeton Tiger.
We use to make "graphics" like this, back in the main frame computer days.
8-p Guy wearing glasses with tongue sticking out
The paper probably was originally yellow, not white, so it may not have discolored that much.
Yes, it was originally yellow. It was known as canary paper and came in rolls.
so cool! :)
There must have been Marines in there…That was a bottle of Hopps #9 🤔🌞😝
Sorry, that isn't emoticons. That's ASCII art, which has existed since shortly after ASCII became a standard for computerized text, around 1963. The first ASCII art made its appearance in 1966, and was created by Kenneth Knowlton, an employee of Bell Labs. It was titled "Computer Nude (Studies in Perception I)" and was widely circulated. VERY cool find though!
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I forget that Ryan is so young he's never taken an old school electric typing class 😅 We did exercises all the time in the 7th grade making pictures like this on a typewriter.
I don't think emojis and emoticons are the right names? 🤷♂️
Teletype, that's ancient tech isn't it
In use for quite some time. 75 baud, if IIRC.
60's to 70's era. The machine I was with would have been 1974 give or take a year. The next one down is Morse.
@@x1heavy I worked with that exact model of teletype until it was replaced in 1992.
@@Norbrookc Yes, 75 baud.
@@Norbrookc 75 baud works out to 100 words per minute.
Well it used to be called ASCII Art and emoji's were just a couple characters that often made a face like smiley :) or laugh :D etc. :P
Unfortunately HTML format forums like RUclipss comment sections really killed off this type of simple artwork.
I tried to get one to work here but it just gets all squished and seriously messed up looking.
I'm sure Bob and his army are around somewhere complaining about Google plus. ;)
Trying to Copy ASC II text into RUclipss interface is not working well..
😂😂😂😂😂
〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜
Best I can do 😅
This would actually be considered ASCII Art (American Standard Code for Information Interchange), not an emoticon. Though "modern" text emoticons in digital network communications like smiley :) tongue :P heart
This is not ASCII, was not used in teletype at that time period by the Navy, it was Baudot which predates ASCII.
This would actually be considered Baudot art. ;)
What? No Tri-Force? Lame.
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