What I appreciate about all the Australian review channels versus the folks who do this here in the U.S is that you gents aren't afraid to use them properly. So many reviewers in the states think they need to let off the throttle the moment a wheel begins to slip which doesn't allow the traction control system to work. They then claim the vehicle won't cover a certain obstacles or that trying any harder might break the vehicle when the truth is they just didn't know how to use the thing properly. When I get done watching an Aussie 4x4 review I feel like I know what the real capabilities of a vehicle are and not what the limitations of the driver happen to be.
Funny that you've mentioned it. I noticed this on AU's CarExpert channel, when he was reviewing exactly this Ford Everest. He did not press the accelerator enough and blamed the car.
No fires ? No issues with oil pump after the apprentice lets the engine drain for more than 20 minutes during an oil change ? No engine shutdown after running out of AdBlue in the middle of nowhere ? Having said that, I think the drive system (like Mitsu) is good.
@@choirhunter Of course not. I would never get another Ford until they lift their service game in Australia. Also, I'm not on $250/hr like a lot of d*cks where I live, so there is the cost factor too....and that goes for any car here. Cheers
What I really like is a car that you can completely rely on when you are halfway across the country and well away from any help. Given Ford's reputation vs. the reliability of the Isuzu, it is a no-brainer. You can have your extra torque - give me reliable.
Have you actually done your research before making this incredibly false statement? Isuzu's have many known issues from faulty Turbos to crappy body mounts which leads cracking panels and the list goes on. NO manufacture is without issues. I'd trust the Everest as much as I'd trust any other SUV or UTE.
My 2017 Everest has been up and down the east coast from Townsville to Adelaide with a trailer in tow both on an off road. The car has 130+K with no issues and still feels and dives like new.
Isuzu MUX. Built for long , abusive environment. Less cost. I owned a 2017. Although out of date in terms of technology, still do the same work as everest.
I have the first gen and I'm getting this one too due to the 4JJ3 engine which responds well to bolt ons and a tune. For the money saved I could get bullbar, roof racks, winch, wheels/ tyres, 2 inch lift, tune, dual battery set up for fridge freezer and a light bar.
Yep, and the Fraud Ranger bois fall for the paper power figures, and what gets me is this tester was trying to say you need a run up in the MUX which is a load of crap. I still have my 1st gen Dmax and love it, I bought it new and have not had a thing go wrong yet. Heres real world power figures. ruclips.net/video/9AlZFDmc9wc/видео.html
I think the public has decided i.e. official "V Facts" for September ; MUX 1297 ; Everest 876 then the Toyota Fortuner 349 followed by the Pajero Sport 489. The Mux has out sold its competitors now for several years. Obviously the figures can change a little due to stock limitations but either way as I previously mentioned the MUX has now won the sales year on year.
I think the general public are like sheep once they have owned a particular brand they tend to stick with it.When a new model comes out in another brand that is obviously a better car by all the reviews it’s a few years for the brand to take sales away.Example Hilux was the consistent high seller in the 4x4 top of the range models now the Ranger is the top seller in the high spec models.
@@Aaron.13 I never said it was better i.e. everyone is rightly going to have their own opinion on which one is "better", which is "subjective". At the end of the video, the presenter said for his money he would buy the Everest (that's his choice and righty so, as it's his money) but by the "V Fact" stats, most buyers (over several years, now) chose the MUX re where they spent their hard earn money.
@@stevegordon-hall2732 And a lot of that is due to the fact that the older models were much cheaper, like the Pajero Sport. The new model is much dearer so let's see if it stays there.
Have owned two, the first one a 2015 had a adblu issue, did 120k kms when traded, no other issues. The current one, a 2019 had done 55k kms, zero warranty issues. Love it.
The MUX isn't hi-tech, it's just a part time 4x4 like the 1950's Landrovers had. A lot of money to pay for basic part time 4x4. Why would you leave the Everest in Normal mode to do a rutted hill climb? That's for paved surfaces. And if you don't want to listen to the parking sensors switch them off. The button's right next to the diff lock button? No mention about Hill Decent Control in either vehicle.
Alot of the features for the Titanium are carried over into the Everest Sport. I test drove both and went with the Everest. It's closer to a Prado feel rather than the ute turned wagon that you get with the Isuzu, Pajero Sport and Fortuner
@@tcoultis would imagine the Everest is indeed a softer ride.. just don't think I'd like to own one out of warranty, also wouldn't feel too confident going too far off road in one.
Thanks, great comparison. For me the Everest is the quietest diesel I've driven and spending more time on the freeway and towing with the bi-turbo it was an easy decision
@@Deatomizer i'm asking this question to a different person, i was asking people's ford Everest how reliable they are because i'm planning to buy the 2023 Everest Titanium.
Love my Everest. 150k towing as a trailer on camping trips all up and down the easter seaboard. Strong and reliable, I never second guess with my Everest
If I was looking for a "Mum's Taxi" I would go with the Everest, if I was looking for something to tow the van I would go with the MUX. I have driven both and own an MUX.
As with my first gen 2014 never had a mechanical issue only a minor front wheel bearing. Throw a throttle controller in and be amazed by the power it makes to the detuned donk.
The aggressive traction control in low range being on all the time would be a serious problem on the beach. You'd get bogged in a fraction of the time....... They need a 3 position button - Off - Normal - Aggressive, not the 2 position.
Had a 2015 Everest. Beautiful to drive, but was a lemon with constant ad-blue and terrain management failures. There's only so many times you can go into limp mode when towing, so I did the sensible thing and got a Toyota. The new gen V6 looks very attractive, but...
Was liking this video but lost me when you started praising the bi-turbo engine. Towing is worse with the bi-turbo due to the 10 speed gear box not to mention how highly strung it is as well as you can dyno tune the five cylinder to be better than the bi-turbo.
Why Ford persist with this unpopular platform in Australia, and won't bring the Bronco here????? Modern production lines can assemble LHD/RHD simultaneously.
I am always amused by these comparisons. When Isuzu was less well teched up, it was lambasted for it, and almost always lost out in any comparison. Now that it is more teched up, it loses out again, because the tech just isn't that important anymore. Whilst it is horses for courses in the end, people will buy what they like; it is just the reviwers are as meandering in their assessment as the courses they test the cars on.
Not sure how the Prado is a competitor in this segment, where is the Fortuner then??? The Ford’s SYNC3 is probably the best ute based system out there but yes the screen does seem somewhat tiny in todays world. As the MU-X is Isuzu’s latest offering we will need to see another comparison when the new Everest is launched next year…
@@DiscoFang there are reliability rankings which could be referred to. Check out the JD Power Dependability Surey, it is very interesting, albeit US based.
@@nnoddy8161 Or rather, extrapolating the expected future reliability of a car model or brand taking ONLY data from those cars when they’re under 3yo is the part that’s bogus.
Unfortunately, here in Indonesia Isuzu only supplies basic type MUX, but Ford has Titanium type here. What Ford titanium amazed me, is not the interior and hi-tech fiture, is the powerful power comes from 2liter sequential turbo. It can produce 200hp, even for competitors which has bigger displacement couldnt do that. Well played Ford
Great video sir. Can I ask how tall are you sir? I'm just wondering if which of the two has a better and more comfortable leg room? Does your knee hit the dash?
Good video. Skip the into and just get to it. I'd prefer if you just spoke as you SHOWED the car (ie whats inside), not you driving and struggling to talk. Same same, and I'm sure you could find more camera angles. FYI, I'm actually looking to buy one of these cars, so looking for the stuff not in the catalogue.
I felt exactly the same the 2021 Mux felt like a 2015 model to drive noisy under load overall very disappointing my sons 2017 Everest a better drive any day of the week
My sons new work truck Ranger dual cab doesn't feel any better than my 2009 Dmax, in fact my Dmax has more grunt and rides better but I do have a full EFS suspension kit.
@@stevegordon-hall2732 Those figures are what's quoted, The real figures @ the wheels are DMax 88kw/380 Ford 3.2ltr 105kw/315, so you see the DMax out torques the 3.2 Ranger which is better than so called horse power figures especially in a diesel. Then once tuned with a very safe margin the DMax stomps the Ranger 3.2 with 124kw/516 to Fords 133kw/429, so in the real world the Ford is all paper mache. They don't bother tuning the 2ltr because it is taken to an inch of it's life from the factory.
@@brianross4057 Are you saying you’re 2009 Dmax goes better than the latest model Dmax then if that’s the case why didn’t they stay with you’re engine. Know way in the world the Mux I drove about a month ago goes better than my sons Everest
@@stevegordon-hall2732 There's no way my sons work 2ltr Ranger goes better than my old 2009 DMax in fact the Fraud is a slug until it starts boosting, The MUX you drove a month ago obviously has something wrong with it, My DMax is stock except for a 3 inch exhaust and a throttle enhancer. Check out these real world power figures from a dyno shop, The ranger they quote is the 3.2 not the 2ltr because the 2ltr is too highly strung to do any more to it. ruclips.net/video/9AlZFDmc9wc/видео.html
As an Everest fanboi, I totally agree. It handles off-road terrain much better, but is is more expensive. On road, the Everest has the edge. Kudos to the Prado though, great car.
@@w1ldm4n82 Facts are facts, it would want a solid gold steering wheel and shifter for the price, not just a out of date kdss system, the under powered engine doesn’t do much.
I wanted a 4x4 that will give me 4 x 4 grip when towing 3 tonne on bitumen especially when the weather turns rough. The MUX can't do that. Its Massey Ferguson style primitive part time 4 x 4 is a huge disappointment. I will pay more and get the Pajero Sport Exceed. Plus 10 year warranty.
Towing that sort of weight with any of these is a mistake imo. Fwiw I have a Pajero Sport and love it but I certainly wouldn't tow anywhere near the weights they say it can. TCM will likely kill the idea anyway.
@@oldbloke204 we tow 2.6t behind the PS with 4H confidence. Would never attempt it in RWD if conditions were not perfect. Our GVM with TBM scaled at 2650 fully loaded and GCM 4980kg. I used 3t as a figure as Isuzu stupidly boast it can do 3.5t. No way would I buy a RWD on bitumen part time 4x4 whilst the Paj Sport with super select creams the opposition.
@@waynehobbs5175 Sounds like you have your weights sorted but plenty don't. The Mitsi 4wd system is one of the best going around, imo, and gets overlooked a lot of the time for whatever reason. My brother has had two Pajeros now and has had a mega run out of them even though they have worked very hard on and off road. He reckons it tows better than some of the more common tow heroes which his mates have. Do you tow just letting the gearbox make the choices or do you do it? I have heard plenty of horror stories about gearboxes left to select overdrive lunching themselves whilst towing. I'm yet to hear of any issues with the PS other than intercooler hoses which is easily fixed and a minor issue.
@@oldbloke204 mainly leave it in drive. 7th and 8th are both overdrive ratios. I watch the tacho and from that and the speed I know which gear its chosen. Down hill I do use the paddles to let engine braking reduce mechanical brakes heating up. We have no bullbar or roofracks to keep weight down and also retain OEM engine cooling. Ours is a GLS 5 seater, bonus more cargo area, less kerb weight for us old grey nomads lol. Yes the intercooler hoses are going to be an eventual issue but we have a silicon set from Mickle Pickle onboard when we caravan. Cheers
@@waynehobbs5175 Thanks for the reply. I also have a GLS also which has a few offroad mods as I use it for camping/4wding as well as my run around. I was wondering about the mods/weight as I have a susp/lift in mine, A/T's, cargo barrier, front bar, cargo barrier, roof rack, GME XRS uhf and various other bits. Yeah it does add to the weight but it is pretty capable off road now. Shame it doesn't have a diff lock but I don't go too hard anyway, fixing broken 4wd's is expensive. I can let you know of a couple of products I use which fit perfectly in the back if you are interested. I take it you are happy with yours towing as my brother has been itching to hook something heavy to mine to try it out.
I wonder how many of these vehicles will EVER see a 4x4 track? I'm looking for a tow vehicle for a 2.6T caravan. Ideally I don't even want 4x4. I will test drive both M-UX and Everest in 4x2 guise.
Kevin, towing in AWD on damp bitumen on windy roads gives way better control. 2.6t pushing a rear wheel drive is dangerous. The MUX can't even do it due to its agricultural 1970s part time 4x4. Pay more and get a Pajero Sport. Its Super select transfer system allows 4 wheel drive on any surface but RWD if you are not towing.
$10k more for as you said "less SAFETY tech", as yet unproven longevity engine / transmission, from the crowd that brought out the Base Camp where you need to sign a legal waiver to get cash back. Not sold...
what are you on about? refined how? the everest struggled all the way up the hill you couldn't even breathe properly it's so bumpy and harsh. For an extra 10g's you're getting an outdated SUV and a headache. Mu-X delivers from all 4 levels and doesn't disappoint. This video is fake news.
id still think at the end of the day. Isuzu is just better over all. even if it has less power output, it has the capacity to be tuned to have more come out of it compared to the ford with its small engine. you can really hear the ford working hard just going up that hill. kinda sounds like a little girl screeching for some ice cream.
If you're going to climb such a steep hill, of course you wouldn't go up in in road mode and without a locked diff 🤦♂️🤦♂️ Just seems stupid not to go straight into low range, diff lock and the best terrain mode for the conditions 🤷♂️
Biased review Clearly isuzu can be anyones pick . Who dosen't want to save money yet have reliability on their side. What a bunch of crap is this. The world is going nuts
Isuzu all the way, the power figures are on paper in the real world the Isuzu is better. And what idiot would go out bush with road tyres on. Watch this for real world power and most importantly torque figures, The Ford 2 ltr is unable to be tuned because they are strung out to the max from the factory. ruclips.net/video/9AlZFDmc9wc/видео.html
@@dshiningsword2427 you can't squeeze four people in its middle row due to its limited width and it also has a rather small 68 litre fuel tank. Yes, it is a great value for money because of its price but compared to its predecessor which is much better-looking, it hasn't grown a lot in terms of passenger space. Plus, its engine figures now lag behind competition. 140kw/450nm or above are now the norm for top-spec models in its class while this one produces below that.
@@w1ldm4n82 None of them have seating for 4. WTH are you driving with unseatbelted passengers? By your standard I'm sure you can strap 4 people on the roof with a ratchet strap.
So over these budget SUV’s. Save your money for a bit longer and get yourself a new Toyota Landcruiser. An actual 4X4. I promise you’ll never look back hey.
With the new 300 starting at $90k.... that is 20% more cost. Also, not everyone wants that size of a vehicle. And finally, airbox letting dust in on a $100k 4x4, D4D injectors, DPF problems... just isnt what it used to be. That is not even mentioning the issues on the 70 series models, that are for REAL 4x4 work.
@@andrevanderwalt2515 ok. Well aware of that…hasn’t caused me much problem even driving in heavy sand. Toyota are undoubtedly lucky that there are many folks like me who enjoy driving a serious, old fashioned, manual 4 wheel drive. I have a modern double locked Prado too but enjoy the retro nature of the 76. The 76 is double locked from factory
@@roberthay7554 I like the idea of a 79... but in older mechanical injection spec 1hd or the JDM 1gr v6. More reliability, and it dates from the era Toyota still did things properly
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What I appreciate about all the Australian review channels versus the folks who do this here in the U.S is that you gents aren't afraid to use them properly. So many reviewers in the states think they need to let off the throttle the moment a wheel begins to slip which doesn't allow the traction control system to work. They then claim the vehicle won't cover a certain obstacles or that trying any harder might break the vehicle when the truth is they just didn't know how to use the thing properly. When I get done watching an Aussie 4x4 review I feel like I know what the real capabilities of a vehicle are and not what the limitations of the driver happen to be.
I think because majority Americans don’t know how to drive off road.
I think that’s because this is just normal driving for us to get to school/work 😂
Thats very true.
Funny that you've mentioned it. I noticed this on AU's CarExpert channel, when he was reviewing exactly this Ford Everest. He did not press the accelerator enough and blamed the car.
I own a Everest for close to 5 years now and almost 100k odo reading but it still feels brand new !!! No issue at all ... I love my Everest !!!
No issues in 5yrs, wow, you must have a rare one
No fires ? No issues with oil pump after the apprentice lets the engine drain for more than 20 minutes during an oil change ?
No engine shutdown after running out of AdBlue in the middle of nowhere ?
Having said that, I think the drive system (like Mitsu) is good.
@@davidnobular9220 i bet youve never had an everest before.
@@choirhunter Of course not. I would never get another Ford until they lift their service game in Australia.
Also, I'm not on $250/hr like a lot of d*cks where I live, so there is the cost factor too....and that goes for any car here.
Cheers
@@davidnobular9220 why so sour with rich guys living good life in great cars? Just say you cant afford the ford.
What I really like is a car that you can completely rely on when you are halfway across the country and well away from any help. Given Ford's reputation vs. the reliability of the Isuzu, it is a no-brainer. You can have your extra torque - give me reliable.
Have you actually done your research before making this incredibly false statement? Isuzu's have many known issues from faulty Turbos to crappy body mounts which leads cracking panels and the list goes on. NO manufacture is without issues. I'd trust the Everest as much as I'd trust any other SUV or UTE.
@@Deatomizer well, only if you count owning an Isuzu for the last 6 years.
@@mwg255 check your mounts
@@Deatomizer they're completely fine. Maybe I have the one good one.
@@Deatomizer here in d phillipines only ford has a very expensive parts hard to repair compare to toyota,izuzu,mitsubishi..
MUX equals longer life engine and reliability
Richard, no new diesel is reliable without servicing.
My 2017 Everest has been up and down the east coast from Townsville to Adelaide with a trailer in tow both on an off road. The car has 130+K with no issues and still feels and dives like new.
@@whomcares3438 Especially the highly strung 2 ltr Ranger.
@@whomcares3438 yeah...thats true
Everest for Everything
Can't wait to see the next generation Everest
It will have an 800cc, quad turbo, 4 cylinder engine with a 22 speed gearbox.......
Isuzu MUX. Built for long , abusive environment. Less cost. I owned a 2017. Although out of date in terms of technology, still do the same work as everest.
I have the first gen and I'm getting this one too due to the 4JJ3 engine which responds well to bolt ons and a tune.
For the money saved I could get bullbar, roof racks, winch, wheels/ tyres, 2 inch lift, tune, dual battery set up for fridge freezer and a light bar.
Yep, and the Fraud Ranger bois fall for the paper power figures, and what gets me is this tester was trying to say you need a run up in the MUX which is a load of crap. I still have my 1st gen Dmax and love it, I bought it new and have not had a thing go wrong yet. Heres real world power figures. ruclips.net/video/9AlZFDmc9wc/видео.html
...and dont forget your Manta 3inch exhaust
The way that the MUX climbed the hill without rough terrain mode is how u can easily break a cv
I’d pick the Isuzu over the Ford, the 4JJ3-TCX is a much more simpler engine than that weird as bi-turbo 🤗
just got one yesterday
isuzu mu-x 4x4 snorkel and bull bar LS-T is the spec
@@Ditosev78 One of my dream cars, but unavailable in Europe unfortunately 😔. Hope you enjoy it to the fullest 🎉🎉🎉
@@jean-louishamid5285you can't import one?
@@jbangz2023 Oh probably, It would be a hassle in my country but still possible.
I think the public has decided i.e. official "V Facts" for September ; MUX 1297 ; Everest 876 then the Toyota Fortuner 349 followed by the Pajero Sport 489. The Mux has out sold its competitors now for several years. Obviously the figures can change a little due to stock limitations but either way as I previously mentioned the MUX has now won the sales year on year.
I think the general public are like sheep once they have owned a particular brand they tend to stick with it.When a new model comes out in another brand that is obviously a better car by all the reviews it’s a few years for the brand to take sales away.Example Hilux was the consistent high seller in the 4x4 top of the range models now the Ranger is the top seller in the high spec models.
More people buying something doesn’t make it better..
@@Aaron.13
I never said it was better i.e. everyone is rightly going to have their own opinion on which one is "better", which is "subjective". At the end of the video, the presenter said for his money he would buy the Everest (that's his choice and righty so, as it's his money) but by the "V Fact" stats, most buyers (over several years, now) chose the MUX re where they spent their hard earn money.
Wait till the new model Everest comes out then talk figures. MUX is a brand new model this Everest has been around for years.
@@stevegordon-hall2732 And a lot of that is due to the fact that the older models were much cheaper, like the Pajero Sport.
The new model is much dearer so let's see if it stays there.
Drive them at night! MUX Bi led headlights are brilliant, Everest I thought the candles went out!
Own a 2019 Trend the lights are brilliant. The older model had lights that were a shocker.
I heard that the old lights were rubbish, the new ones are good, but I got the lightbar feature
I own a Ford Everest and I hate to say it, but i have had nothing but problems.
Well that sucks. What’s gone wrong?
Have owned two, the first one a 2015 had a adblu issue, did 120k kms when traded, no other issues. The current one, a 2019 had done 55k kms, zero warranty issues. Love it.
Turdota fangirl alert !
The MUX isn't hi-tech, it's just a part time 4x4 like the 1950's Landrovers had. A lot of money to pay for basic part time 4x4. Why would you leave the Everest in Normal mode to do a rutted hill climb? That's for paved surfaces. And if you don't want to listen to the parking sensors switch them off. The button's right next to the diff lock button? No mention about Hill Decent Control in either vehicle.
Exactly - Everest is a better tow vehicle for sure. ...MUX is Only Part time 4WD - only 2WD on bitumen .
Driving 4x4 on tar road? You kidding me!
@@ricr.4669 4wd on tar gives superior traction especially in wet conditions.
10 grand! Can you imagine the depreciation difference as well 😅 Isuzu any day of the week please
Residual value is higher and stronger on Ford - look on carsales.
Alot of the features for the Titanium are carried over into the Everest Sport. I test drove both and went with the Everest. It's closer to a Prado feel rather than the ute turned wagon that you get with the Isuzu, Pajero Sport and Fortuner
@@tcoultis would imagine the Everest is indeed a softer ride.. just don't think I'd like to own one out of warranty, also wouldn't feel too confident going too far off road in one.
@@cjwest9094 don't buy any car without warranty especially today
Thanks, great comparison. For me the Everest is the quietest diesel I've driven and spending more time on the freeway and towing with the bi-turbo it was an easy decision
What year is your Everest? How many mileage now?
@@gutadin5 you asked me the same question
@@Deatomizer i'm asking this question to a different person, i was asking people's ford Everest how reliable they are because i'm planning to buy the 2023 Everest Titanium.
@@gutadin5 The new Everest is a completely new vehicle with a brand new power train, interior and body style and it's not even out yet in Aus.
Love my Everest. 150k towing as a trailer on camping trips all up and down the easter seaboard. Strong and reliable, I never second guess with my Everest
What year is your Everest?
@@gutadin5 2017 Titantium
@@Deatomizer is that the Bi turbo? Any parts replaced?
@@gutadin5 3.2ltr and no.
Really, im curious what about 2023, i hope mine 2023 everest can last 150k miles
Isuzu mux is better:) taugh, strong, less cost too
If I was looking for a "Mum's Taxi" I would go with the Everest, if I was looking for something to tow the van I would go with the MUX. I have driven both and own an MUX.
If you looking for your mom's basement buy that dogshít isuzu if you want a real workhorse get an Everest , also it doesn't look like a shoebox
@@hotrod7603 The Isuzu is a man's car, the Everest would probably suit you better.
As with my first gen 2014 never had a mechanical issue only a minor front wheel bearing. Throw a throttle controller in and be amazed by the power it makes to the detuned donk.
The aggressive traction control in low range being on all the time would be a serious problem on the beach. You'd get bogged in a fraction of the time....... They need a 3 position button - Off - Normal - Aggressive, not the 2 position.
Had a 2015 Everest. Beautiful to drive, but was a lemon with constant ad-blue and terrain management failures. There's only so many times you can go into limp mode when towing, so I did the sensible thing and got a Toyota. The new gen V6 looks very attractive, but...
The Everest still have the fuel tank hanging below the chassis rail,
I'm amazed at how tough fords are in Australia.
Was liking this video but lost me when you started praising the bi-turbo engine. Towing is worse with the bi-turbo due to the 10 speed gear box not to mention how highly strung it is as well as you can dyno tune the five cylinder to be better than the bi-turbo.
like them both it would be very hard for me to choose between them
Both are one of the best SUV maker.
Why Ford persist with this unpopular platform in Australia, and won't bring the Bronco here????? Modern production lines can assemble LHD/RHD simultaneously.
Mux all the way 😍
Did the rough road button really dramatically changes the manner of traction control? Please someone reply.
I know which of these I'd prefer in the outback - not the Ford. Also, who wants to deal with Ford service centers in Australia? Not me.
That Isuzu has been used a fair bit by the Australian reviews. I have noticed the same licence plate from about 6 other reviews.
I am always amused by these comparisons. When Isuzu was less well teched up, it was lambasted for it, and almost always lost out in any comparison. Now that it is more teched up, it loses out again, because the tech just isn't that important anymore. Whilst it is horses for courses in the end, people will buy what they like; it is just the reviwers are as meandering in their assessment as the courses they test the cars on.
Nailed it. Though the old mux dash was horrendous to even look at
Not sure how the Prado is a competitor in this segment, where is the Fortuner then???
The Ford’s SYNC3 is probably the best ute based system out there but yes the screen does seem somewhat tiny in todays world.
As the MU-X is Isuzu’s latest offering we will need to see another comparison when the new Everest is launched next year…
Reliability trumps all, and this was hardly mentioned !
they never are in these new car comparisons as they are all about selling new cars.
Reliability? You want to know whether either broke down during the test??
@@DiscoFang there are reliability rankings which could be referred to. Check out the JD Power Dependability Surey, it is very interesting, albeit US based.
@@nnoddy8161 The JD Powers and other such survey relates to new cars. Them calling it a “reliability” survey is bogus.
@@nnoddy8161 Or rather, extrapolating the expected future reliability of a car model or brand taking ONLY data from those cars when they’re under 3yo is the part that’s bogus.
Unfortunately, here in Indonesia Isuzu only supplies basic type MUX, but Ford has Titanium type here. What Ford titanium amazed me, is not the interior and hi-tech fiture, is the powerful power comes from 2liter sequential turbo. It can produce 200hp, even for competitors which has bigger displacement couldnt do that. Well played Ford
big displacement for small engine is not good
Great video sir. Can I ask how tall are you sir? I'm just wondering if which of the two has a better and more comfortable leg room? Does your knee hit the dash?
Good video. Skip the into and just get to it. I'd prefer if you just spoke as you SHOWED the car (ie whats inside), not you driving and struggling to talk. Same same, and I'm sure you could find more camera angles. FYI, I'm actually looking to buy one of these cars, so looking for the stuff not in the catalogue.
I felt exactly the same the 2021 Mux felt like a 2015 model to drive noisy under load overall very disappointing my sons 2017 Everest a better drive any day of the week
My sons new work truck Ranger dual cab doesn't feel any better than my 2009 Dmax, in fact my Dmax has more grunt and rides better but I do have a full EFS suspension kit.
@@brianross4057 Must be a good 120kw 360 nm compared to 147kw 470 nm
@@stevegordon-hall2732 Those figures are what's quoted, The real figures @ the wheels are DMax 88kw/380 Ford 3.2ltr 105kw/315, so you see the DMax out torques the 3.2 Ranger which is better than so called horse power figures especially in a diesel. Then once tuned with a very safe margin the DMax stomps the Ranger 3.2 with 124kw/516 to Fords 133kw/429, so in the real world the Ford is all paper mache. They don't bother tuning the 2ltr because it is taken to an inch of it's life from the factory.
@@brianross4057 Are you saying you’re 2009 Dmax goes better than the latest model Dmax then if that’s the case why didn’t they stay with you’re engine. Know way in the world the Mux I drove about a month ago goes better than my sons Everest
@@stevegordon-hall2732 There's no way my sons work 2ltr Ranger goes better than my old 2009 DMax in fact the Fraud is a slug until it starts boosting, The MUX you drove a month ago obviously has something wrong with it, My DMax is stock except for a 3 inch exhaust and a throttle enhancer. Check out these real world power figures from a dyno shop, The ranger they quote is the 3.2 not the 2ltr because the 2ltr is too highly strung to do any more to it. ruclips.net/video/9AlZFDmc9wc/видео.html
love the watch 👍
Prado still has the edge over either.
Over both
As an Everest fanboi, I totally agree. It handles off-road terrain much better, but is is more expensive. On road, the Everest has the edge. Kudos to the Prado though, great car.
Edge in poor GCM, and price, do they still have a poor air box.
@@paulmcintosh5589 meltdown. The prado is a class higher than the two and has kdss also.
@@w1ldm4n82 Facts are facts, it would want a solid gold steering wheel and shifter for the price, not just a out of date kdss system, the under powered engine doesn’t do much.
I wanted a 4x4 that will give me 4 x 4 grip when towing 3 tonne on bitumen especially when the weather turns rough.
The MUX can't do that.
Its Massey Ferguson style primitive part time 4 x 4 is a huge disappointment.
I will pay more and get the Pajero Sport Exceed. Plus 10 year warranty.
Towing that sort of weight with any of these is a mistake imo.
Fwiw I have a Pajero Sport and love it but I certainly wouldn't tow anywhere near the weights they say it can.
TCM will likely kill the idea anyway.
@@oldbloke204 we tow 2.6t behind the PS with 4H confidence. Would never attempt it in RWD if conditions were not perfect.
Our GVM with TBM scaled at 2650 fully loaded and GCM 4980kg.
I used 3t as a figure as Isuzu stupidly boast it can do 3.5t. No way would I buy a RWD on bitumen part time 4x4 whilst the Paj Sport with super select creams the opposition.
@@waynehobbs5175 Sounds like you have your weights sorted but plenty don't.
The Mitsi 4wd system is one of the best going around, imo, and gets overlooked a lot of the time for whatever reason.
My brother has had two Pajeros now and has had a mega run out of them even though they have worked very hard on and off road.
He reckons it tows better than some of the more common tow heroes which his mates have.
Do you tow just letting the gearbox make the choices or do you do it?
I have heard plenty of horror stories about gearboxes left to select overdrive lunching themselves whilst towing.
I'm yet to hear of any issues with the PS other than intercooler hoses which is easily fixed and a minor issue.
@@oldbloke204 mainly leave it in drive. 7th and 8th are both overdrive ratios. I watch the tacho and from that and the speed I know which gear its chosen. Down hill I do use the paddles to let engine braking reduce mechanical brakes heating up.
We have no bullbar or roofracks to keep weight down and also retain OEM engine cooling. Ours is a GLS 5 seater, bonus more cargo area, less kerb weight for us old grey nomads lol.
Yes the intercooler hoses are going to be an eventual issue but we have a silicon set from Mickle Pickle onboard when we caravan.
Cheers
@@waynehobbs5175 Thanks for the reply.
I also have a GLS also which has a few offroad mods as I use it for camping/4wding as well as my run around.
I was wondering about the mods/weight as I have a susp/lift in mine, A/T's, cargo barrier, front bar, cargo barrier, roof rack, GME XRS uhf and various other bits.
Yeah it does add to the weight but it is pretty capable off road now.
Shame it doesn't have a diff lock but I don't go too hard anyway, fixing broken 4wd's is expensive.
I can let you know of a couple of products I use which fit perfectly in the back if you are interested.
I take it you are happy with yours towing as my brother has been itching to hook something heavy to mine to try it out.
Mux any day
The 3.2 is a grenade.200000 km then boom
None of the new high pressure fuel rail diesels are reliable without frequent servicing.
Oh and I’ve seen a few 500,000 plus Kim’s 3.2’s. personally I’ll never buy a diesel again.
200k is generous, normally see em blow at 100k to 160k lol
I have an old Isuzu 4BD1T 3.9 with over 570,000kms on it. Still running sweet.
I wonder how many of these vehicles will EVER see a 4x4 track? I'm looking for a tow vehicle for a 2.6T caravan. Ideally I don't even want 4x4. I will test drive both M-UX and Everest in 4x2 guise.
Kevin, towing in AWD on damp bitumen on windy roads gives way better control. 2.6t pushing a rear wheel drive is dangerous. The MUX can't even do it due to its agricultural 1970s part time 4x4.
Pay more and get a Pajero Sport. Its Super select transfer system allows 4 wheel drive on any surface but RWD if you are not towing.
He got the "on-demand 4WD" concept 100% wrong. More tech? Like what?
If only the companies could pay us for supporting their brand over the other.
I can't tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not.
New generation Everest just about to be released, goodbye competition...
What’s the intro song 🎶 ???
Is it true that Ford has stopped manufacturing cars in Australia 🇦🇺??
Yep
@@redpepper7181 Ok. Since when?
@@BaronvonOldenbiker it seems Ford Australia is launching Everest this year
$10k more for as you said "less SAFETY tech", as yet unproven longevity engine / transmission, from the crowd that brought out the Base Camp where you need to sign a legal waiver to get cash back. Not sold...
Isuzu is way more reliable, sorry I don’t trust these highly strung small 2l turbos from ford ,
what are you on about? refined how? the everest struggled all the way up the hill you couldn't even breathe properly it's so bumpy and harsh. For an extra 10g's you're getting an outdated SUV and a headache. Mu-X delivers from all 4 levels and doesn't disappoint. This video is fake news.
I just don't trust Ford engineering...
id still think at the end of the day. Isuzu is just better over all. even if it has less power output, it has the capacity to be tuned to have more come out of it compared to the ford with its small engine.
you can really hear the ford working hard just going up that hill. kinda sounds like a little girl screeching for some ice cream.
If you're going to climb such a steep hill, of course you wouldn't go up in in road mode and without a locked diff 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Just seems stupid not to go straight into low range, diff lock and the best terrain mode for the conditions 🤷♂️
Nice watch you're wearing 👍😊
Reliability, Depreciation and Resale decides a car's abilities and capabilities rather than mechanical aspects. Isn't it bois?
Isuzu king engine diesel
Biased review
Clearly isuzu can be anyones pick .
Who dosen't want to save money yet have reliability on their side.
What a bunch of crap is this.
The world is going nuts
Fird ranger how cam from south Africa bad mad ford company thisis complaint ibyut ranger 2022 but iget problem suspension machine workin its make rase
Isuzu all the way, the power figures are on paper in the real world the Isuzu is better. And what idiot would go out bush with road tyres on. Watch this for real world power and most importantly torque figures, The Ford 2 ltr is unable to be tuned because they are strung out to the max from the factory. ruclips.net/video/9AlZFDmc9wc/видео.html
Mitsubishi Pajero Sport probably does offer the best from these both and another 10-15 grand less in price even to Isuzu....
But that one is cramped inside, is still ugly in the rear and only seats five if i'm not mistaken.
@@w1ldm4n82 yea its bit cramped for sure but still not bad. Its 7 seats though. Rear end they made it bit better with latest update
@@dshiningsword2427 you can't squeeze four people in its middle row due to its limited width and it also has a rather small 68 litre fuel tank. Yes, it is a great value for money because of its price but compared to its predecessor which is much better-looking, it hasn't grown a lot in terms of passenger space. Plus, its engine figures now lag behind competition. 140kw/450nm or above are now the norm for top-spec models in its class while this one produces below that.
@@w1ldm4n82 I don't know about 4 people in the middle row, but I couldn't comfortable seat 3 kids in middle row- the seatbelt arrangement is terrible.
@@w1ldm4n82 None of them have seating for 4. WTH are you driving with unseatbelted passengers? By your standard I'm sure you can strap 4 people on the roof with a ratchet strap.
So over these budget SUV’s. Save your money for a bit longer and get yourself a new Toyota Landcruiser. An actual 4X4. I promise you’ll never look back hey.
With the new 300 starting at $90k.... that is 20% more cost.
Also, not everyone wants that size of a vehicle.
And finally, airbox letting dust in on a $100k 4x4, D4D injectors, DPF problems... just isnt what it used to be. That is not even mentioning the issues on the 70 series models, that are for REAL 4x4 work.
@@andrevanderwalt2515 what are ‘70 series’ issues? I have a 76 series and have not had a problem
@@roberthay7554 they couldnt match the front and rear track... not they couldnt, they just couldnt be bothered....
@@andrevanderwalt2515 ok. Well aware of that…hasn’t caused me much problem even driving in heavy sand. Toyota are undoubtedly lucky that there are many folks like me who enjoy driving a serious, old fashioned, manual 4 wheel drive. I have a modern double locked Prado too but enjoy the retro nature of the 76. The 76 is double locked from factory
@@roberthay7554 I like the idea of a 79... but in older mechanical injection spec 1hd or the JDM 1gr v6.
More reliability, and it dates from the era Toyota still did things properly