If i remember correctly, Heyman at one point had 2 phones. One for Roman and one for Rock. Not sure if it ties in, but something i remembered. Roman's guilt for not being there to protect Paul is visible IMO. I really hope Seth stays steadfast and isnt the 5th member. If i had the booking pen, im having OG bloodline go into the match with just the 4, and right as the match is about to begin, Heyman comes to the ramp and brings in one of the old "Paul Heyman Guys" CM Punk. I would have said Brock, but there was that segment where Heyman told Solo that Roman said Punk was "off limits" One year anniversary of his WWE return......makes too much sense to me. It also could add another layer to the eventual Rollins/Punk fued. Just another reason for Seth to loathe Phil.....teaming with Roman
@alexandermontejo447 Why would Heyman say Roman said Punk was supposed to be "off limits" if he "pretty much" don't like him? There was also the segment when Punk was about to knock on the Bloodline dressing room door months and months ago..... I never said it would be Brock. I eliminated him because of the whole Punk thing
You guys are forgetting last year's WarGames where Drew dislike Judgement Day yet he joined them because of Jey. And I believe that's what going to happen to Seth. He's joining Roman's Team because Reed cost him the opportunity for the WHC and he's going to overlook his hatred of Roman just for that fact alone.
I heard the phone say the number was out of service, not that he was blocked or anything. That seems to indicate the number was discontinued. That mean EVERYONE who had the number gets the same response. Friend, foe, whomever. So its not done to Roman specifically. This means Paul Heyman has taken control back of himself and will contact who HE wants to when HE chooses to. Who's he going to send in his stead I wonder. They better be as tough as a stone.
Sammy and the OG bloodline we're getting ready to go out and fight so maybe he didn't want to take his phone with him, why does everything have to be a breadcrumb?
But do you really think SAMI would do this infront of the camera during their Segment ?!! A normal person would wait until they are finished filming and then ...they would tell the camera man or any other person to take their phone until their MATCH is over ...and not THROW it on the sofa like that !!! lol !!! I'm sure this was ALL planned and SEMI is TURNING HEEL !!!
Take Roman out of it for a second, take a step back and ask ourselves what's in it for Samy to turn on Jey Uso? Everything between Samy and Roman we understand, there could still be hate, but Samy has no reason to turn on Jey who has always been there for him through everything. This is Jey Uso's Bloodline, not Romans
You can always tell the little touches when Heyman is involved in the story, because you get these little moments that get your mind racing and the story can go in 50 different directions.
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Before getting destroyed by Solo Sikoa, Paul Heyman warned CM Punk and then begged him, "Take me with you". Heyman was desperate. Imagine going into Survivor Series with Punk doing this favor for Heyman, helping out the OG Bloodline. Getting his revenge for his friend. Then leading (as Bully eluded to) a further feud with Rollins. Its pure cinema.
I was thinking the same as bully, punk comes as the 5th member and then seth costs the OG bloodline the match by attacking punk, this does 3 things 1. Punk vs Rollins at wm 2. Seth and Roman have more fuel to their ultimate feud that will happen 3. The new bloodline and broson reed gets elevated too.
I don't see what could possibly happen in three shows until SS that could get Seth to completely change his mind. It wasn't until Jey said make the call and they turned their attention to the tv, when Sami threw the phone discreetly. I don't know how we get there but Sami turns at SS.
Bloodline Story (2020-2025) This bloodline story is like a seasonal series ..like watching Breaking Bad or Sopranos every season each year....5 year span That's like the NWO continuing there storyline from 1996 to 2001. 2020...going into 2025... that's how long The Bloodline has been alive. Crazy I have never witnessed or seen a Pro Wrestling faction last this long with extraordinary storytelling, that has arches and valleys, with reviting progression, Edge of your seat, What's gonna happen type of feeling, shocking revelations...no faction has gone this long and continued to having people invested, glued to their seats, New characters involved. Just when you thought The Bloodline has run its course they bring new life to it with there incredible writing and long term storytelling...This is what pro wrestling supposed to be, Week by week episodic television with great storytelling and in ring action that involves within the story. DX started in 1997 and ended in 2000, came back in 2006. NWO started in 1996 ended in 1998 came back in 2002. The 4 Horsemen started in 1985 and ended in 1987 and small comebacks here and there in thought-out the 90s... separate spots different years. But The bloodline has stayed consistent for almost 6 years straight...with no skipping years, or no end in sight. They've done something I have never seen. Bring new life and new blood with a new set of storytelling, like Soap Operas, Game Of Thrones, Soprano's, Breaking Bad. It makes you think...Holy Crap whats gonna happen next..And that's what you need in pro wrestling, investment, intrigue, excitement for what's next. Every faction has it's cooling off moment, after a huge rise of success, to breathing new life into it again. This Epic Bloodlines Faction is becoming The Greatest Faction in history of Pro Wrestling, The storylines alone are far more superior on if itself. great characters, great promos, Acting, facial expressions, believability, bring the audiences and viewers on a emotional ride, hook line and sinker. This is Pro Wrestling at it's Core. And to think there is no end in sight when you have 3 New members on verge of making their presence known...Hikuleo, Lance Anoai, Zilla Fatu. It's about to get cooken and more exciting... Fasten your seat belts its gonna be a bumpy but an epic ride.
It's the Rock telling Heyman not to answer him....I think Heyman shows up with the Rock....or, Heyman shows up for ROman with either Punk, or Lesnar....which would be epic.
Another theory yet unpopular opinion, The OG Bloodline is just a one time thing, after Survivor Series, they’re doing their own thing, particularly Sami Zayn. BUT, Reigns and The Usos will stay together, with the tag team being equals to Reigns, not them being their lackey, henchmen etc. NB: In that SmackDown segment where they watched Sikoa’s crew coming out from the tv backstage, Sami wished he was dancing along with Sikoa’s music, I suppose😂
Went back to watch it. Just looks like a mistake by Sami. They didn’t show it when they left the room as they didn’t go low enough. Didn’t show it at the end of the show even though it was perfect camera angle to show the exact area between seat cushions. So maybe he was getting a call n had to silence it or get it away from the microphone. Knowing he was going to go fight n didn’t want it to break
Well I think the person Jey uso said to make the phone call to has to be someone other than Paul because Roman’s expression at the end of the show, showed to me that he was gonna put his pride aside and make the call but then he changed his mind and decided to call Paul.
It looked more like a remote than a phone. But I will say, I think Sami is going rogue. His facial expressions from the beginning makes me wonder what his intentions are. Just sayin…
Actually it was the other way around. It was Sami Zayn who turned on the Bloodline the first time, not the Bloodline turned on Sami Zayn. The chair shot heard around the world, that was Sami, not Roman.
The problem with the phone scenario. All of us personalize our phones. Roman would know his own phone. Sami wouldn't have had time to switch phones. Because the 3 of the Bloodline were in Roman's locker room until Roman arrived. Roman was on the phone with Jimmy earlier and wasn't there yet. Roman wouldn't take his phone out to the ring to fight. My best guess is that Roman put his phone away in the locker room somewhere prior to coming in view of the camera to arrive for the meeting with the 3. Then thats when basically Solo's music hit and then they all leave to go fight the Temu Bloodline. There would have been no time or scenario where a phone could be switched or altered that night. It is a red herring. I believe that the OG BLOODLINE will win at SS. But I think we could see a Jacob turn after the loss. Jacob takes out Solo. I believe this is where Rock comes back to take over the Bloodline. Solo will go crawling back to the OG BLOODLINE. Interestingly enough, Roman did do a instagram last week saying that special things happen when his family is together. Roman and his real self Joe was speaking here. With that said, I believe for the true OG BLOODLINE to be reunited in full that has to include Solo. I think after Wargames it will be the OG BLOODLINE (Roman, Uso's, Solo, and Sami) and the Temu Bloodline of (The Rock, Jacob Fatu, Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa, and Bronson Reed). I think then in January moving into Wrestlemania the focus will be Rock and Roman. Cody could be in the mix here... maybe. Depends on if you want the title in the picture. Then after Wrestlemania, Roman may or may not be champion, but I see the OG BLOODLINE remaining strong and solid. You will see the next chapter of issues within the Temu Bloodline. They will experience the same issues that the OG BLOODLINE had in their first run. As you can see... this Bloodline story is like Paul said awhile back... in the 3rd inning. If that is to be believed we may be in the 5th inning now. I think in 4 to 5 years, this Bloodline saga as we know it will end. There will be other Samoans come in, but I feel it will adopt a new group name and tell its on story. Just my long two cents. I could be wrong and most likely will be wrong.
Speaking of phones. Was Paul Heyman the person the group was suggesting for Roman to call or someone else? Because Roman was being pretty reluctant when they were pressuring to make a phone call. But he has a completely smug demeanor when calling Paul. It's almost like Roman was meant to call someone else.
I think Sami threw the phone to get ready for the battle that happened afterwards and Roman possibly grabbed the wrong phone to call the wiseman. Sami cannot turn heel in front of his own Canadian crowd at Wargames. Seth is going to be the 5th member and will cost the OG bloodline because of his hate for Roman. Seth turning heel also gives his character arc a fresh perspective.
I would love to be a WWE writer......so many things can be done and so many stories that could be told with this new talent pool. I grew up watching WWF when I was a kid since it was Saturday Night's Main Event Days.....used to stay up with my grandpa Saturday nights watching it.
If Sami turns then it’s going to be 6 on 4. So I feel Seth will likely come out and help, but then Heyman comes out at the end with either Brock or Punk.
I think Paul Heyman and The Rock together makes perfect sense. Heyman is not a baby face. Roman and the OG Bloodline have gone face. There's no place for the Wiseman in that scenario.
Maybe Sami just throw his phone on the couch because he is going out to the ring for a fight and probably dont want to break his phone? I think the timing was after Solo's entrance music hits
I think ppl are looking too deeply into it… Paul is just like Jey… just like Sami… they initially were avoiding Roman but eventually came around… I think Paul does the same. Currently he’s hurt bc Roman abandoned him after Mania and left him to get bullied by the new bloodline
@@cHriiSzbEethat the gist. The story for this arc is no one is willing to team up with Roman Bloodline due to what they have done in the 4 year. Punk make sense since he wasn't there when Roman turned heel and became tribal chief so no bad blood and Heyman spoke about getting a favor from Roman about not touching Punk and he did
I figure Rock will come out after Survivor Series or Raw or Smackdown and let it be known it was him along that started Solo new blood. That way is Roman vs Rock at Mania. Then get to Cody vs Randy at Mania. Seth vs Cm Punk at Mania.
I took some time to think about it and I don’t think Seth will be the 5th member even though Bronson Reed is the 5th man for the the new bloodline. This because it completely downplays Seth’s character and his animosity towards Roman. There has been long-term storytelling with the Seth Roman story which will eventually pay off I think into a one on one match at one of the big PLEs. For example, it was Roman’s hatred for Seth stabbing him in the back during the Shield days that cost Roman the championship at Mania this year. So it doesnt make sense for Seth to go against his own word and team with Roman but on the other hand, it makes Roman look weak that he will team with Seth. Jey and Sami are one thing but Seth is completely different in Roman’s eyes. Also, after what happened at the end of Smackdown, I think Paul Heyman will play a factor in who the 5th man will be. At this point, I would say Punk or Lance Anoa’i who has signed with WWE.
Would be cool if Sami turns on the Bloodline, but because Heyman set it up for Sami to turn and align with the New Bloodline, which now have a new wiseman and The Rock behind the scenes pulling the strings. Its pretty easy to believe that Heyman blames Roman more than Solo for the attack
So we end up w/Seth and Bronson as 5th members, but during The Match Beyond, Sami flips and joins Bloodline 2.0. Shark completely jumped by then, but yeah, I'm so sick of the Bloodline.
I think Zayne and Rollins will both be in War Games, they will help OG bloodline beat nee bloodline. Then, they will turn on OG bloodline, ipen the cage door and let in Paul Heyman, Brock Lesnar and...Drew McIntyre. Maybe not Lesnar for obvious reasons, but what a stable that would be. Their only mission is to completely blow up the bloodline. Both sides. They dont like each other and they dont have to.
I still think this angle with Bronson and Seth joining war games is a red herring, shot over the taped episodes. I could EASILY see Seth tell Sami...i wont fight with you.... But ill take care of Bronson. On the go home show, Seth attacks Reed and theg absolutely obliterate each other in a spot that takes them both out
Woah, we having revisionist history. Sami weaseled his way into the bloodline cause of his feud with Drew. Sami wanted protection and used the bloodline. He thought he could ride the coattails until real issues hit the fan.
I think it’s time to draft in another Samoan, maybe Zilla 🤔. I agree with u Dave about Sami aswell, him talking to Solo don’t make sense. Even Rikishi don’t trust Sami
C M Punk is 5th member 3 reasons: Paul went to Punk to take him away from Solo Punk was off Bloodline hitlist due to relationship with Heyman Bloodline 2.0 hurt Paul
Problem with the record thing, sami didn't hit a record button! He just takes it out n throws it, one motion. He probably didn't want his phone broken in that battle
The phone could be that way because he's with brock and doesn't have service where brock lives? And brock is 5th member. That's my guess at the moment, could be a long shot tho.
Nobody is talking about how cinematic the phone drop was.
Roman NEVER apologized. He called Sami a fool and said he doesn't need him. Then all of a sudden Sami is all in? Nahhhhhh. He's gonna turn on the BL
@soultheinterrogator Yeah, I noticed Raw replayed that apology skit...It more to that.
If i remember correctly, Heyman at one point had 2 phones. One for Roman and one for Rock. Not sure if it ties in, but something i remembered.
Roman's guilt for not being there to protect Paul is visible IMO.
I really hope Seth stays steadfast and isnt the 5th member.
If i had the booking pen, im having OG bloodline go into the match with just the 4, and right as the match is about to begin, Heyman comes to the ramp and brings in one of the old "Paul Heyman Guys"
CM Punk.
I would have said Brock, but there was that segment where Heyman told Solo that Roman said Punk was "off limits"
One year anniversary of his WWE return......makes too much sense to me. It also could add another layer to the eventual Rollins/Punk fued. Just another reason for Seth to loathe Phil.....teaming with Roman
Why Brock that also makes no sense. Also Roman pretty much doesn't like punk so why team up with him. I'm still going Seth
@alexandermontejo447 Why would Heyman say Roman said Punk was supposed to be "off limits" if he
"pretty much" don't like him?
There was also the segment when Punk was about to knock on the Bloodline dressing room door months and months ago.....
I never said it would be Brock. I eliminated him because of the whole Punk thing
Solo broke Paul's phone months ago when Paul didn't acknowledge him, why does no one remember this?
@@GryHen-pg9iy because they're brainwashed
You guys are forgetting last year's WarGames where Drew dislike Judgement Day yet he joined them because of Jey. And I believe that's what going to happen to Seth. He's joining Roman's Team because Reed cost him the opportunity for the WHC and he's going to overlook his hatred of Roman just for that fact alone.
Solo destroyed that phone back when he took over
yes agree but he can easily replace the phone an add the numbers again, i think sammy changed pauls number on the phone
Atta boy John, finally someone else remembered what I've been saying, there is no conspiracy
@@GI-Joeso if Sami betrays roman, have Paul bring back Brock to help the og bloodline
U never broke a phone before?
@jonathanburns665 nope not one yet! Don't jinx me, jinxy!
Pretty sure that wasn’t a real pop. It was crowd noise they added because it was a double taping lol
I just assumed Sami threw his phone on the couch because he was getting ready to go to the ring and fight, and didn’t want his phone damaged 🤷🏻♂️
Everything is intentional with the bloodline.
This feels like clue 😂
Solo gave Sami the phone
They both in kahoots
I heard the phone say the number was out of service, not that he was blocked or anything.
That seems to indicate the number was discontinued.
That mean EVERYONE who had the number gets the same response. Friend, foe, whomever. So its not done to Roman specifically.
This means Paul Heyman has taken control back of himself and will contact who HE wants to when HE chooses to.
Who's he going to send in his stead I wonder.
They better be as tough as a stone.
We ready for a Brock Lesner with Paul Heyman pop as a surprise member on the match itself like they did with Randy’s return
It was Roman’s phone….Sammy changed Heyman contact in phone so Roman called a dead line.
Not Mark Henry Not knowing that despair already means hopeless 😂
That phone will ring with a call from the 5th guy. They keep it a secret till the PLE.
Sammy and the OG bloodline we're getting ready to go out and fight so maybe he didn't want to take his phone with him, why does everything have to be a breadcrumb?
Thats exactly what somebody who was in on the conspiracy would say!!!
Because everything counts
Drew McIntyre even said once that Sami's music was already playing and he hadn't even laced his boots yet, so it makes sense for Sami.
But do you really think SAMI would do this infront of the camera during their Segment ?!! A normal person would wait until they are finished filming and then ...they would tell the camera man or any other person to take their phone until their MATCH is over ...and not THROW it on the sofa like that !!! lol !!! I'm sure this was ALL planned and SEMI is TURNING HEEL !!!
@CanerCano-sz5dc lol it needs to happen on camera for the audience to see it
Take Roman out of it for a second, take a step back and ask ourselves what's in it for Samy to turn on Jey Uso? Everything between Samy and Roman we understand, there could still be hate, but Samy has no reason to turn on Jey who has always been there for him through everything. This is Jey Uso's Bloodline, not Romans
Bingo
Bro if im going out to fight ima leave my phone somewhere aka the room i am in
no need to go far-fetched
You can always tell the little touches when Heyman is involved in the story, because you get these little moments that get your mind racing and the story can go in 50 different directions.
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Before getting destroyed by Solo Sikoa, Paul Heyman warned CM Punk and then begged him, "Take me with you".
Heyman was desperate. Imagine going into Survivor Series with Punk doing this favor for Heyman, helping out the OG Bloodline. Getting his revenge for his friend. Then leading (as Bully eluded to) a further feud with Rollins. Its pure cinema.
I was thinking the same as bully, punk comes as the 5th member and then seth costs the OG bloodline the match by attacking punk, this does 3 things
1. Punk vs Rollins at wm
2. Seth and Roman have more fuel to their ultimate feud that will happen
3. The new bloodline and broson reed gets elevated too.
Anybody else noticed a poster on the back wall of Roman standing over edge and Daniel Bryan?
Roman also ignored paul when he was out after mania
I thought Paul was like 'you're not my tribal chief'. Wouldn't Roman know Paul's new number?
Paul coming back working for the rock would pop heavy
....and Roman dropped the phone and then the credits hit like an episode of Dallas or Dynasty........amazing storytelling and amazing TV ....
I don't see what could possibly happen in three shows until SS that could get Seth to completely change his mind.
It wasn't until Jey said make the call and they turned their attention to the tv, when Sami threw the phone discreetly. I don't know how we get there but Sami turns at SS.
Bloodline Story
(2020-2025)
This bloodline story is like a seasonal series ..like watching Breaking Bad or Sopranos every season each year....5 year span
That's like the NWO continuing there storyline from 1996 to 2001.
2020...going into 2025... that's how long The Bloodline has been alive.
Crazy I have never witnessed or seen a Pro Wrestling faction last this long with extraordinary storytelling, that has arches and valleys, with reviting progression, Edge of your seat, What's gonna happen type of feeling, shocking revelations...no faction has gone this long and continued to having people invested, glued to their seats, New characters involved.
Just when you thought The Bloodline has run its course they bring new life to it with there incredible writing and long term storytelling...This is what pro wrestling supposed to be, Week by week episodic television with great storytelling and in ring action that involves within the story.
DX started in 1997 and ended in 2000, came back in 2006.
NWO started in 1996 ended in 1998 came back in 2002.
The 4 Horsemen started in 1985 and ended in 1987 and small comebacks here and there in thought-out the 90s... separate spots different years.
But The bloodline has stayed consistent for almost 6 years straight...with no skipping years, or no end in sight.
They've done something I have never seen.
Bring new life and new blood with a new set of storytelling, like Soap Operas, Game Of Thrones, Soprano's, Breaking Bad.
It makes you think...Holy Crap whats gonna happen next..And that's what you need in pro wrestling, investment, intrigue, excitement for what's next.
Every faction has it's cooling off moment, after a huge rise of success, to breathing new life into it again.
This Epic Bloodlines Faction is becoming The Greatest Faction in history of Pro Wrestling, The storylines alone are far more superior on if itself.
great characters, great promos, Acting, facial expressions, believability, bring the audiences and viewers on a emotional ride, hook line and sinker.
This is Pro Wrestling at it's Core.
And to think there is no end in sight when you have 3 New members on verge of making their presence known...Hikuleo, Lance Anoai, Zilla Fatu. It's about to get cooken and more exciting... Fasten your seat belts its gonna be a bumpy but an epic ride.
No not even close. It is Seaame Street. Breaking Bad level? This has got to be a joke
@@WalterSamsi agree it is not on breaking bad level, but sesame street? Man you are funny 😂
Dude he threw the phone when solo music hit and he knew they were going to the ring to attack them like go watch it lol Jesus
Heyman returns at war games with number 5 a beast
Maybe Sami through his phone on the couch to record what was being said? Working as a double agent? Just a thought.
Paul is in Canada bring back the beast
It's the Rock telling Heyman not to answer him....I think Heyman shows up with the Rock....or, Heyman shows up for ROman with either Punk, or Lesnar....which would be epic.
Another theory yet unpopular opinion, The OG Bloodline is just a one time thing, after Survivor Series, they’re doing their own thing, particularly Sami Zayn. BUT, Reigns and The Usos will stay together, with the tag team being equals to Reigns, not them being their lackey, henchmen etc.
NB: In that SmackDown segment where they watched Sikoa’s crew coming out from the tv backstage, Sami wished he was dancing along with Sikoa’s music, I suppose😂
Reminds me of the scene in the Matrix where Joe Pantoliano , the mole, drops the live phone off to the side to lead the Agents to them.
Went back to watch it. Just looks like a mistake by Sami. They didn’t show it when they left the room as they didn’t go low enough. Didn’t show it at the end of the show even though it was perfect camera angle to show the exact area between seat cushions. So maybe he was getting a call n had to silence it or get it away from the microphone. Knowing he was going to go fight n didn’t want it to break
Well I think the person Jey uso said to make the phone call to has to be someone other than Paul because Roman’s expression at the end of the show, showed to me that he was gonna put his pride aside and make the call but then he changed his mind and decided to call Paul.
I thought the same thing.
@@ottoe517 Facts bro. Cant wait to see who it is and whatever Paul has going on lmao
It looked more like a remote than a phone. But I will say, I think Sami is going rogue. His facial expressions from the beginning makes me wonder what his intentions are. Just sayin…
The way he says “Bully” 😂😂
Sammy threw paul haymans phone i think sammy is turning on bloodline like they did to him
I agree, Sami will Turn HEEL...!!! He is my favourite character in the Bloodline...it's sad !!! 😔
I just don't see the crowd turning on Sami. If they do not, heel turn is moot.
Actually it was the other way around. It was Sami Zayn who turned on the Bloodline the first time, not the Bloodline turned on Sami Zayn. The chair shot heard around the world, that was Sami, not Roman.
@@oldmangamer76 we have to wait and see !!
@@tegarlagajoebhaar8936the reason he did that is because he loved Keven
Whatever happens, it's going to be epic story telling and I am happy they finally got back to that...that was what had been missing.
Sami can't be a heel again. Crowd won't let him.
Exactly, KO needs to do promo outside for his heel turn to be believable or we would have cheered him
Roman: But Paul, I didn't want or need money from you... 😑😑¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sami turned on Roman. Why do most people forget that aspect?
Yeah cause Roman’s a psychopath
@@Chetanp1445 Roman treated him the best out of the entire Bloodline lol. All he asked him to do was hit Kevin, with the chair. Couldn't do it.
If you actually go back it was Sami trying to use the Bloodline to do his bidding. The locker room leader Sami acknowledged the tribal chief
The problem with the phone scenario. All of us personalize our phones. Roman would know his own phone. Sami wouldn't have had time to switch phones. Because the 3 of the Bloodline were in Roman's locker room until Roman arrived. Roman was on the phone with Jimmy earlier and wasn't there yet. Roman wouldn't take his phone out to the ring to fight. My best guess is that Roman put his phone away in the locker room somewhere prior to coming in view of the camera to arrive for the meeting with the 3. Then thats when basically Solo's music hit and then they all leave to go fight the Temu Bloodline. There would have been no time or scenario where a phone could be switched or altered that night. It is a red herring. I believe that the OG BLOODLINE will win at SS. But I think we could see a Jacob turn after the loss. Jacob takes out Solo. I believe this is where Rock comes back to take over the Bloodline. Solo will go crawling back to the OG BLOODLINE. Interestingly enough, Roman did do a instagram last week saying that special things happen when his family is together. Roman and his real self Joe was speaking here. With that said, I believe for the true OG BLOODLINE to be reunited in full that has to include Solo. I think after Wargames it will be the OG BLOODLINE (Roman, Uso's, Solo, and Sami) and the Temu Bloodline of (The Rock, Jacob Fatu, Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa, and Bronson Reed). I think then in January moving into Wrestlemania the focus will be Rock and Roman. Cody could be in the mix here... maybe. Depends on if you want the title in the picture. Then after Wrestlemania, Roman may or may not be champion, but I see the OG BLOODLINE remaining strong and solid. You will see the next chapter of issues within the Temu Bloodline. They will experience the same issues that the OG BLOODLINE had in their first run. As you can see... this Bloodline story is like Paul said awhile back... in the 3rd inning. If that is to be believed we may be in the 5th inning now. I think in 4 to 5 years, this Bloodline saga as we know it will end. There will be other Samoans come in, but I feel it will adopt a new group name and tell its on story. Just my long two cents. I could be wrong and most likely will be wrong.
Speaking of phones. Was Paul Heyman the person the group was suggesting for Roman to call or someone else? Because Roman was being pretty reluctant when they were pressuring to make a phone call. But he has a completely smug demeanor when calling Paul. It's almost like Roman was meant to call someone else.
I love watching this podcast!🙏🏾💯🖤
I also think that Heyman takes on a new Heyman guy, and it's Solo's enforcer....none other than the Werewolf himself.Jacob Fatu who turns on Solo.....
I think Sami threw the phone to get ready for the battle that happened afterwards and Roman possibly grabbed the wrong phone to call the wiseman. Sami cannot turn heel in front of his own Canadian crowd at Wargames. Seth is going to be the 5th member and will cost the OG bloodline because of his hate for Roman. Seth turning heel also gives his character arc a fresh perspective.
Bully Ray head always shaking hahhaa
Drugs
With Seth being added, it gives it an avenue for Heyman to hook up with Punk. Punk costs O.G. Bloodline the match
I would love to be a WWE writer......so many things can be done and so many stories that could be told with this new talent pool. I grew up watching WWF when I was a kid since it was Saturday Night's Main Event Days.....used to stay up with my grandpa Saturday nights watching it.
If Sami turns then it’s going to be 6 on 4. So I feel Seth will likely come out and help, but then Heyman comes out at the end with either Brock or Punk.
I think Paul Heyman and The Rock together makes perfect sense. Heyman is not a baby face. Roman and the OG Bloodline have gone face. There's no place for the Wiseman in that scenario.
SAMI ZAYN is the BROTHER from another Mother !!! I hope he will NOT turn Heel and Stay with his BROTHERS ... SOO SAD !!!! ❤👍
Maybe Sami just throw his phone on the couch because he is going out to the ring for a fight and probably dont want to break his phone? I think the timing was after Solo's entrance music hits
Sami is turning. He changed Heyman's contact in the phone so Roman couldn't get in touch with him then recruited Seth knowing they hate each other.
I think ppl are looking too deeply into it… Paul is just like Jey… just like Sami… they initially were avoiding Roman but eventually came around… I think Paul does the same. Currently he’s hurt bc Roman abandoned him after Mania and left him to get bullied by the new bloodline
Did everyone forget that solo broke the phone?
My theory is that Sammy stole Roman’s phone and altered Hayman’s number to a dead number. So Roman can’t call the wise man for help.
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Yes I definitely believe it's cm punk coming back with Paul Heyman
Punk has no history with the Bloodline
@@cHriiSzbEethat the gist. The story for this arc is no one is willing to team up with Roman Bloodline due to what they have done in the 4 year. Punk make sense since he wasn't there when Roman turned heel and became tribal chief so no bad blood and Heyman spoke about getting a favor from Roman about not touching Punk and he did
Hear me out, Roman calls the phone one more time and backstage we see Sami with the cracked phone barely working
But Sami threw his phone on the couch as he, Jey and Jimmy were watching Solo's faction in the ring. Sami sabotaged the phone. He betrayed Roman.
lol i think dave might be reading too much into sami throwing the phone, but i'd be shocked if that ends up playing a part in this.
Please turn Sammy heel at war games! Make him cost the OTC the match and let bloodline 2.0 go on a insane run until mania!
I figure Rock will come out after Survivor Series or Raw or Smackdown and let it be known it was him along that started Solo new blood. That way is Roman vs Rock at Mania. Then get to Cody vs Randy at Mania. Seth vs Cm Punk at Mania.
My theory is The Rock will be the fifth member and then he's going to turn on Roman to set it up for wrestlemania next year
I took some time to think about it and I don’t think Seth will be the 5th member even though Bronson Reed is the 5th man for the the new bloodline. This because it completely downplays Seth’s character and his animosity towards Roman. There has been long-term storytelling with the Seth Roman story which will eventually pay off I think into a one on one match at one of the big PLEs. For example, it was Roman’s hatred for Seth stabbing him in the back during the Shield days that cost Roman the championship at Mania this year. So it doesnt make sense for Seth to go against his own word and team with Roman but on the other hand, it makes Roman look weak that he will team with Seth. Jey and Sami are one thing but Seth is completely different in Roman’s eyes. Also, after what happened at the end of Smackdown, I think Paul Heyman will play a factor in who the 5th man will be. At this point, I would say Punk or Lance Anoa’i who has signed with WWE.
Would be cool if Sami turns on the Bloodline, but because Heyman set it up for Sami to turn and align with the New Bloodline, which now have a new wiseman and The Rock behind the scenes pulling the strings. Its pretty easy to believe that Heyman blames Roman more than Solo for the attack
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So we end up w/Seth and Bronson as 5th members, but during The Match Beyond, Sami flips and joins Bloodline 2.0.
Shark completely jumped by then, but yeah, I'm so sick of the Bloodline.
Been a fan ever since!
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I think Zayne and Rollins will both be in War Games, they will help OG bloodline beat nee bloodline. Then, they will turn on OG bloodline, ipen the cage door and let in Paul Heyman, Brock Lesnar and...Drew McIntyre. Maybe not Lesnar for obvious reasons, but what a stable that would be. Their only mission is to completely blow up the bloodline. Both sides. They dont like each other and they dont have to.
what if Cody masterminded all this through the Rock? I remember him telling Roman I will take everything from you not just the title
I still think this angle with Bronson and Seth joining war games is a red herring, shot over the taped episodes.
I could EASILY see Seth tell Sami...i wont fight with you.... But ill take care of Bronson. On the go home show, Seth attacks Reed and theg absolutely obliterate each other in a spot that takes them both out
Woah, we having revisionist history. Sami weaseled his way into the bloodline cause of his feud with Drew. Sami wanted protection and used the bloodline. He thought he could ride the coattails until real issues hit the fan.
9:35 says the man who faked his retirement speech to pull John Cena in 😂
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Paul Heyman was never a babyface.
Brock Lesnar !!
What if The Final Boss returns as the fifth member... And then betrays Roman at War Games.
I think it’s time to draft in another Samoan, maybe Zilla 🤔. I agree with u Dave about Sami aswell, him talking to Solo don’t make sense. Even Rikishi don’t trust Sami
C M Punk is 5th member 3 reasons:
Paul went to Punk to take him away from Solo
Punk was off Bloodline hitlist due to relationship with Heyman
Bloodline 2.0 hurt Paul
It could have been romans phone that Sami had stolen earlier and changed the number in the contacts so Roman cant get ahold of Heyman
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I did not see the phone throw live. Now it confirms that Sami will turn. Maybe he did harm to Heyman and the phone belongs to Heyman.
I think that was the rock calling Sami 😂
I think CM Punk will be the 5th member it makes sense ties in with Paul Heyman if Seth is the guy it will make him look like a hypocrite
Solo broke Paul Heymans phone
The phone look like a remote
Solo broke Heyman's phone
Problem with the record thing, sami didn't hit a record button! He just takes it out n throws it, one motion. He probably didn't want his phone broken in that battle
Rember solo destroyed Paul's phone
The phone could be that way because he's with brock and doesn't have service where brock lives? And brock is 5th member. That's my guess at the moment, could be a long shot tho.
Sammy is going to betray them like 70%😅
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He could bring brock back as the fifth member since paul and him have a connection
Switching iPhones is not a thing. You'd have to have zero security on it
He took his phone out cause he was about to go out and fight with the new bloodline, keeping it in his pocket would get it damaged
punk comes back and helps roman. cause roman needed to call Paul to get a hold of punk to ask him to join.
I do believe Sammy turns at War Games.
I agree I don't trust Sami either
The rock paul heyman and sami are all in kahoots. Orr. Paul brings out 5th man and its either brock or punk.