Nicely performed! Thank you! I think the BD5 has a small edge over the Selmer. Both have a very centered tone, but the BD5 spoke nicely in the Mozart. I will say that the BD5 is very unforgiving if your embouchure gets tired. It didn't work with a Legere reed. I am playing a Dassios L and it works perfectly with a Legere Euro reed, 3.25. The tone is very warm and pleasing for a non-professional on my 1966 Buffet R13. They made very good clarinets in the 1960s!
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I think I want to try some D'addario mouthpieces. What would be most similar to M13 Lyre 1.02, X0 1.00 or X5 1.05? I think X0 is not totally corresponding to M13 Lyre, 0.02mm less open may not seem much but I think will make a difference for better or worse. I think I'm more towards the X5 as there are not intermediate options between X0 and X5, though I like using hard strength reeds with ease.. What would you say, X0 or X5?
@@alexeysclarinet9109 With the M13 Lyre, V12 4.5 works properly while on V21 I had to move down half a strength to 4. Seeing reeds chart, I expected V21 4.5 to be a little lighter than V12 4.5 but they're stiffer for some reason, so on V21 I use number 4 and feels right.
@@jimis3167 I don't know. There are a lot of parts of the equation. First off M13 can be less or more open than 1.02. Also, the openness of the mouthpiece tells a little about how the mouthpiece plays and feels. There are rails, baffle, chamber, curve of facing - they all have a great influence on tone production. So if I were you I would rather try to find reviews on X0 and X5 and decide whether I am interested in these mouthpieces or not.
Today I tried the M13 Lyre with the little rubbed V12s number 5 I had been using on M15, and they play even better on M13 Lyre, so good!!! I thought the 4.5 should be the highest strength but apparently we shouldn't always follow reed chart. That setup I'm very comfortable and It sounds phenomenal!!! I'll make a video soon but I don't think any mic can capture how big this sounds in the room. Maybe you'll get an idea.. Similar sound with the M15, but little warmer and better control. Eventually M13 Lyre can take number 5 V12s but little lightened, like with the M15.
It seems you are so happy with the M13 Lyre, that's great! I'll be waiting eagerly for the video! Is there any chance that you will compare M13 Lyre , M15 and M30? ☺
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Yes, of course. Though with M30 and M30 Lyre I'll play with 3.5+ reed. Next favourite I like after the M13 Lyre is M30 Lyre. Another thing happened when I tried number 5 on M13 Lyre is tuning got higher. It plays like It's not 13 series, I had to use again the 65mm barrel while with lighter strengths I was using the 62.5mm barrel pulled out to 63-64mm. I wonder what will do with the heat in the summer, probably will need 68mm, lol! 😂
@@jimis3167 that's the exact reason I tried to learn to play on soft reeds. With hard reeds, we bite too much but have a lot of control and confidence. Though I bite soft reeds as well lol
@@alexeysclarinet9109 To quote on that, that's why close facing I think is more preferable. Myself I bite more with soft reeds. When reed is stiff enough, even in more open mouthpiece, I don't need to bite. You always have to find the sweet spot. Probably that's why the next favourite is the M30 Lyre, because 3.5+ exist and first favourite M13 Lyre because with little rubbing, number 5 kinda becomes like 4.5+. Though I find rubbing doesn't work as well in softer reeds, for a example If need a 3.5 to play like a 3+, I have tried and didn't work. Apparently works well in stiffer reeds.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Another thing you should know is, It's a myth that more open mouthpiece will produce a bigger sound, maybe will be more flexible but a closed tip with the right strength reed, It may even surpass an open mouthpiece in sound emission. On M13 Lyre, V12s work the best, V21 not as well, I had to play number 4 in V21 and still not as responsive as V12 while on M30 Lyre, V12 and V21 3.5+ both work equally well.
Just goes to show that you will always sound like you. I assume that the designs of all these mouthpieces are roughly similar, and the sound was very similar for all. What we can't tell is whether some played more easily for you than others. I think maybe the Selmer was slightly brighter than the others.
Absolutely! That's the point. With any mouthpiece I'll sound like me. The only difference is how much I should work to get the result I want. BTW, the design of the mouthpieces is different. 5RV Lyre is very different from BD5. Selmer is smth between them. But this only stresses the point that musicians create sound, not mouthpieces.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 , thanks. By roughly similar, I meant roughly in the same tip opening and overall resistance range. Not like comparing a 5RV Lyre with, say, a B45 Lyre, which is a much more open facing.
@@alexeysclarinet9109Hi man, I read your comment above, and want to ask because I play 3 years BD5 and want to get new mouthpiece smth more focused and dark and less bright. So how would you described and compared BD5 to 5RVLyre by your experience. Thanks!
@@TheTRUEMAN000 Hey! I think then 5RVLyre is not your choice. It's more compact and focused, but also less dark (compared to BD5). I think BD5 is the darkest mouthpiece amongst others in this video. I didn't try BD4 or BD2, but maybe they have a more compact sound than BD5.
I had tried once the Selmer Concept and didn't like at all, very strident sound whatever reedcut with, though I tried only one sample. Do you like the Focus?
I kind of like it, but not 100%.Also, I realized that I don't really know how to handle close mouthpieces with I guess rather flat facing curve. So I am going to stick with it for some time.
I like the focus much. It's a fantastic clear sound. I have the focus and the BD5. the sound of the BD5 is darker, but at the higher notes often a bit too low.
Evolution and X10. With both I have the same feeling - they are not easy to blow, they are not easy to handle, and they sound refined and noble at mp-mf but when playing forte and above sound lacks homogeneity and it splits into two parts - base tone (deepness) and overtones (brightness). That is what I like and hate simultaneously. Sound becomes "dry" and I prefer a "wet" sound if it makes any sense 😊
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I have tried the X10 long time ago, once in a store and I quite liked It. Though my teacher recommended to stick with Vandoren at least until I get my diploma. He said after diploma try whatever you like, so now I think It's time. X0 and X5 will be interesting. What reed you use with the X10 and get such sound results?
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Can you make a video playing the X10? I had tried It once in a store and quite liked it. It was very easy blowing, though my teacher recommended to stick with Vandoren at least until I get my diploma. Now I'm free of that. 😄
@@jimis3167 Unfortunately, I can't. As I didn't like X10 that much I tried to reface it and of course spoiled it lol But there is a video where I play it ruclips.net/video/e5m99m1OQHo/видео.htmlsi=g_w13xLZHlJsQdyG
@@alexeysclarinet9109 haha 😄. Btw does small ligature make some influence on sound by letting more vibrating the reed? And otherwise does big covering reed ligature make sound more plain?
@@TheTRUEMAN000 My experience is that the less contact with the reed the more free reed feels and plays. Using leather, textile, or string ligature (like Germans do) makes sound more covered.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Alexey, please How does it feel on playing 'Long facing' mouthpiece (as m30lyre compared to bd4 for ex.) and how it does affect on pianissimo is it taking harder and etc.?
@@TheTRUEMAN000 I am not a big help here. I didn't play either M30 Lyre (long facing) or BD4 (medium long facing). I have only M30 (long facing) and BD5 (medium facing). For some reason, I prefer long facings, though they are sometimes too flexible and I have to be more careful with my embouchure. As for pianissimo and blowing feeling...I don't know. Comparing my M30 with BD5, BD5 is more reed-friendly and I struggle to find a really good reed for M30. Also, the pianissimo on my M30 can be airy and unfocused or too pinched if the reed isn't really good or/and I am not careful enough. However, I think I need more time to get used to the flexible nature of long-facing mouthpieces.
Nicely performed! Thank you! I think the BD5 has a small edge over the Selmer. Both have a very centered tone, but the BD5 spoke nicely in the Mozart. I will say that the BD5 is very unforgiving if your embouchure gets tired. It didn't work with a Legere reed. I am playing a Dassios L and it works perfectly with a Legere Euro reed, 3.25. The tone is very warm and pleasing for a non-professional on my 1966 Buffet R13. They made very good clarinets in the 1960s!
@@philpasteris8973 thank you for your input!
now i understand why squidward from SpongeBob likes this instrument
Hmmm, and why? 😁
@@alexeysclarinet9109 because eight arms is an advantage with playing clarinet
I think you sound great with the Focus and the 5RV Lyre.
I agree. I'd like to have a mouthpiece that is a mix of both 😂
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I think I want to try some D'addario mouthpieces. What would be most similar to M13 Lyre 1.02, X0 1.00 or X5 1.05? I think X0 is not totally corresponding to M13 Lyre, 0.02mm less open may not seem much but I think will make a difference for better or worse. I think I'm more towards the X5 as there are not intermediate options between X0 and X5, though I like using hard strength reeds with ease.. What would you say, X0 or X5?
@@alexeysclarinet9109 With the M13 Lyre, V12 4.5 works properly while on V21 I had to move down half a strength to 4. Seeing reeds chart, I expected V21 4.5 to be a little lighter than V12 4.5 but they're stiffer for some reason, so on V21 I use number 4 and feels right.
D'addario evolution sounds similar to BD5, I guess that's why I like the other two more😂
@@jimis3167 I don't know. There are a lot of parts of the equation. First off M13 can be less or more open than 1.02. Also, the openness of the mouthpiece tells a little about how the mouthpiece plays and feels. There are rails, baffle, chamber, curve of facing - they all have a great influence on tone production.
So if I were you I would rather try to find reviews on X0 and X5 and decide whether I am interested in these mouthpieces or not.
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Today I tried the M13 Lyre with the little rubbed V12s number 5 I had been using on M15, and they play even better on M13 Lyre, so good!!! I thought the 4.5 should be the highest strength but apparently we shouldn't always follow reed chart. That setup I'm very comfortable and It sounds phenomenal!!! I'll make a video soon but I don't think any mic can capture how big this sounds in the room. Maybe you'll get an idea.. Similar sound with the M15, but little warmer and better control. Eventually M13 Lyre can take number 5 V12s but little lightened, like with the M15.
It seems you are so happy with the M13 Lyre, that's great! I'll be waiting eagerly for the video! Is there any chance that you will compare M13 Lyre , M15 and M30? ☺
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Yes, of course. Though with M30 and M30 Lyre I'll play with 3.5+ reed. Next favourite I like after the M13 Lyre is M30 Lyre. Another thing happened when I tried number 5 on M13 Lyre is tuning got higher. It plays like It's not 13 series, I had to use again the 65mm barrel while with lighter strengths I was using the 62.5mm barrel pulled out to 63-64mm. I wonder what will do with the heat in the summer, probably will need 68mm, lol! 😂
@@jimis3167 that's the exact reason I tried to learn to play on soft reeds. With hard reeds, we bite too much but have a lot of control and confidence. Though I bite soft reeds as well lol
@@alexeysclarinet9109 To quote on that, that's why close facing I think is more preferable. Myself I bite more with soft reeds. When reed is stiff enough, even in more open mouthpiece, I don't need to bite. You always have to find the sweet spot. Probably that's why the next favourite is the M30 Lyre, because 3.5+ exist and first favourite M13 Lyre because with little rubbing, number 5 kinda becomes like 4.5+. Though I find rubbing doesn't work as well in softer reeds, for a example If need a 3.5 to play like a 3+, I have tried and didn't work. Apparently works well in stiffer reeds.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Another thing you should know is, It's a myth that more open mouthpiece will produce a bigger sound, maybe will be more flexible but a closed tip with the right strength reed, It may even surpass an open mouthpiece in sound emission. On M13 Lyre, V12s work the best, V21 not as well, I had to play number 4 in V21 and still not as responsive as V12 while on M30 Lyre, V12 and V21 3.5+ both work equally well.
Reserve Evolution
I can't say I like it the most but it seems to me that it has the most interesting sound that I probably just can't handle well 😊
When are you going to demo the Vocalise models ?
I didn't consider Vocalise at all, so I don't know. Maybe somewhen...
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Just goes to show that you will always sound like you. I assume that the designs of all these mouthpieces are roughly similar, and the sound was very similar for all. What we can't tell is whether some played more easily for you than others. I think maybe the Selmer was slightly brighter than the others.
Absolutely! That's the point. With any mouthpiece I'll sound like me. The only difference is how much I should work to get the result I want.
BTW, the design of the mouthpieces is different. 5RV Lyre is very different from BD5. Selmer is smth between them. But this only stresses the point that musicians create sound, not mouthpieces.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 , thanks. By roughly similar, I meant roughly in the same tip opening and overall resistance range. Not like comparing a 5RV Lyre with, say, a B45 Lyre, which is a much more open facing.
@@alexeysclarinet9109Hi man, I read your comment above, and want to ask because I play 3 years BD5 and want to get new mouthpiece smth more focused and dark and less bright. So how would you described and compared BD5 to 5RVLyre by your experience. Thanks!
@@TheTRUEMAN000 Hey! I think then 5RVLyre is not your choice. It's more compact and focused, but also less dark (compared to BD5). I think BD5 is the darkest mouthpiece amongst others in this video.
I didn't try BD4 or BD2, but maybe they have a more compact sound than BD5.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 oh, but sound of 5RVLyre is cool I liked it. But how it blows, Is it much harder blowing than bd5? And how forte blows?
I had tried once the Selmer Concept and didn't like at all, very strident sound whatever reedcut with, though I tried only one sample. Do you like the Focus?
I kind of like it, but not 100%.Also, I realized that I don't really know how to handle close mouthpieces with I guess rather flat facing curve. So I am going to stick with it for some time.
I like the focus much. It's a fantastic clear sound. I have the focus and the BD5. the sound of the BD5 is darker, but at the higher notes often a bit too low.
Also it depends to the reeds. I like the vandoren 56 Rue le pic.
Which mouthpiece did you prefer?
Among these I prefer Selmer Focus
I have a focus arriving monday to see how it plays. I am moving down from a 1.12 tip opening.
@@JoeTigheOnline Great! Hope, you will like it!
From D'Addario, you have only the Evolution model?
Evolution and X10. With both I have the same feeling - they are not easy to blow, they are not easy to handle, and they sound refined and noble at mp-mf but when playing forte and above sound lacks homogeneity and it splits into two parts - base tone (deepness) and overtones (brightness). That is what I like and hate simultaneously. Sound becomes "dry" and I prefer a "wet" sound if it makes any sense 😊
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I have tried the X10 long time ago, once in a store and I quite liked It. Though my teacher recommended to stick with Vandoren at least until I get my diploma. He said after diploma try whatever you like, so now I think It's time. X0 and X5 will be interesting. What reed you use with the X10 and get such sound results?
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Can you make a video playing the X10? I had tried It once in a store and quite liked it. It was very easy blowing, though my teacher recommended to stick with Vandoren at least until I get my diploma. Now I'm free of that. 😄
@@jimis3167 Unfortunately, I can't. As I didn't like X10 that much I tried to reface it and of course spoiled it lol
But there is a video where I play it ruclips.net/video/e5m99m1OQHo/видео.htmlsi=g_w13xLZHlJsQdyG
Is it metallic ligature or sholaces on the video? Or leather? It is very thin I can't see it 😢
It's this www.amazon.com.au/Cable-100pcs-Extra-400mm-Locking/dp/B082J5J9FV 😂
Maybe not exactly of this size but...this type of "ligature"
@@alexeysclarinet9109 haha 😄.
Btw does small ligature make some influence on sound by letting more vibrating the reed? And otherwise does big covering reed ligature make sound more plain?
@@TheTRUEMAN000 My experience is that the less contact with the reed the more free reed feels and plays. Using leather, textile, or string ligature (like Germans do) makes sound more covered.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Alexey, please How does it feel on playing 'Long facing' mouthpiece (as m30lyre compared to bd4 for ex.) and how it does affect on pianissimo is it taking harder and etc.?
@@TheTRUEMAN000 I am not a big help here.
I didn't play either M30 Lyre (long facing) or BD4 (medium long facing). I have only M30 (long facing) and BD5 (medium facing).
For some reason, I prefer long facings, though they are sometimes too flexible and I have to be more careful with my embouchure.
As for pianissimo and blowing feeling...I don't know. Comparing my M30 with BD5, BD5 is more reed-friendly and I struggle to find a really good reed for M30.
Also, the pianissimo on my M30 can be airy and unfocused or too pinched if the reed isn't really good or/and I am not careful enough. However, I think I need more time to get used to the flexible nature of long-facing mouthpieces.