@luke greensaber Gemini Hey yooo. Well, the lightwhip is an exotic weapon, highly customizable and hard to master. Just look how different Githany's and Lumiya's whips are. On the other hand, what do you think of the verdict ? For once, I'm the one who disagrees.
@Greensaber- Gemini. Oh no no, I agree that Caedus beats Windu, for sure. What I meant is, I disagree on Shado beating Plo. His age is kind of a negligible factor, as he has so many more Force powers at his disposal and knows how to integrate them while swordfighting.
Legacy is easily my favorite Star Wars era, and Shado Vao is one of my favorite characters of that time period. Your analysis here is spot on, and thanks for the shoutout bro lol. Always love talking VS matchups with you. Such a fun, and dynamic VS with two dominant Jedi Masters.
The Legacy era is really not even that good. Sure, it’s better than any of the shit Disney has given us in this “new canon” but it’s still the least awesome era in the old “legends” timeline (well, maybe except for the early New Republic years, the bantam spectra novels era). And no, it’s not spot on. In no universe is Shado Vao on the same level as Plo Koon in like any field. The prequel/clone wars era Jedi are the peak Jedi of any era, especially in terms of martial prowess and dueling ability. Period. Lucas and other Lucasfilm officials have literally said that themselves more than once. And not to mention, Plo Koon has literally bested Yoda before; the only Jedi-the only known being period-to ever do so.. And Shado Vao wouldn’t even be able to touch Yoda.. Not to mention he’s also wholly stronger in the force than anyone in the entire “Legacy” era except for Cade and Krayt..
A two in one special of versus videos first with Evanova95 and now this beast awesome! Can’t wait to see this video which I have no doubt to be a masterpiece
Yes!!! I cannot wait to see shado vao in action! Both of the best versus series you tubers upload on the same day? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one!
“Koh-to-Yah Master Vao, let us play” Anyways, I’ve been looking forward to this. As sad as it is to see one of my favorite masters lose, this was still incredibly well done, and Shado always did strike me as an interesting and powerful character when I read Legacy vol 1. Well done Rob :)
Just found you tonight while binging RUclips to distract myself from my wisdom teeth being removed, and I’m very pleased with what I’ve found. Very good video, loved hearing your thoughts on this; hoping your channel gets more attention, and I just subbed. Keep up the good work friend
Subscription earned! What a great vid!!! I’m biased towards Master Plo, of course, so your reasoning was a refreshing “alternate take”. How about Darth Caedus vs. Kylo Ren? You KNOW you want to “dew it”!
Oh, you mean a ridiculous mismatch between a powerful, ambitious, cunning and dangerous Sith Lord versus some emo twat with daddy issues who lost to a noob ?
@@yrooxrksvi7142 Kylo Ren’s loss was to Rey’s plot armor. He was a tall, athletic, well-conditioned Jedi from the Skywalker bloodline. He was trained by Luke. Darth Caedus had identical ancestry. Kylo Ren seemed to be able to perform advanced force feats. Bad writing doesn’t equal low power. We never DID learn what Kylo’s father issues were. His Dad was a war hero and renowned smuggler. Part of the most elite team of galactic heroes since Obi-Wan,Anakin, and Ahsoka. The man who was brave enough to take a shot a Darth Vader himself on Cloud City. Being married to a high-profile politician, later “outed” as Darth Vader’s daughter, can wreck any family. Especially when your son’s inner “Darth” starts showing, and Palpatine has been screwing with his head via proxy.
@@AgentM79 Kylo Ren seemed to be able to perform advanced force feats. What advanced force feats? All kylo has been shown able to do is telekinesis or the jedi mind trick, which any jedi or sith worth their salt or midichlorian is able to do, since its both a jedi and sith standard, and force stun, which while it is a rare and advanced force ability, kylo's use of it is pathetic and inconsistent. Darth malak and any other jedi or sith could use the ability to stun multiple targets and with much better efficiency than kylo. Beyond that, kylo's only other ability is force choke, which is already a dark side standard. Again, kylo's use of it is raw, basic, isn't anything special, and he doesn't even apply his force abilities in battle, much less at all. It's worse than any jedi or sith out there. Even Savage Opress is better than him. Adding to this is kylo's lightsaber skills. He's a sloppy, clumsy djem so specialist who couldn't even defeat a girl with minimal training. If I honestly had to rate him, Kylo's a mediocre tier 5 on the tier list
Something.....ANYTHING With Darth Malak....PLEASE...hes so under used in fights and even more criminally underrated.....Darth Malak vs Exar Kun or Darth Bane maybe?
On Comicvine, I noticed they credit Shado with Plant Surge as he supposedly tangled Cade's ankle with a vine. Did you choose to ignore it on purpose as you felt it was too speculative ?
Jedi knight Revan (just after killing mandalore) vs general skywalker (after killing dooku) the two heroes of their respective wars flirting with the dark side but before each fall fully!
I am sure luminara didn’t take part in the stark hyperspace war.. and plo would not lose when he can deploy his lightning and malacia and throw in nimble, agile jumps and dodges when needed. People often call him slow and overly stationary/grounded but that aint always the case, he can be very quick if he needed to, if the situation called for it. He was restrained with his abilities but not because he was unwilling to use them!
Watching this more thoroughly again, I disagree with the verdict. Much like someone else said, you stressed a bit too much on Plo's age, when it rarely presented itself as an issue unless he was struck hard to the point of breaking bones. While Shado is a very good fighter, there's nothing about him that would suggest him being such a heavy hitter. And Plo has great versatility in his use of the Force and powers at his disposal, unlike Shado. While he would definetely give Plo a hard fight, there's not enough to suggest he would be overwhelmed.
Lmao man.. What IS it with all of these NJO/Legacy fanboys in the versus series?? Quite literally every one of them. And it’s blatantly obvious, especially that Evannova kid.. In NO universe is Shado Vao even remotely on the same level as Plo Koon as a duelist, let alone his superior. Listen, YOUR headcanon is not Star Wars; Plo Koon is the only Jedi to ever best Yoda in a duel. Shado Vao would get clapped by Yoda and it’s not even debatable…. Every one of the legacy era force users besides Cade and Krayt are completely overrated.
@@grandmashipreplacement3225 Lmao. Um, yes actually, he DID. Because YOU don’t know about it, that means it didn’t happen. Lmfao. Narcissist…. Nice try.
@@grandmashipreplacement3225 kid you literally can’t read . I did respond you idiot. Once again, NICE TRY troll. You know nothing. You’ve already proven that. Stop trying.
WHAT ???? First EvanNova95 releases Mace VS Caedus, then you barge in with this beauty ? This is a jackpot ! Can't wait to watch it fully.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
@@parkersummerlin865 same with me.
@luke greensaber Gemini Hey yooo. Well, the lightwhip is an exotic weapon, highly customizable and hard to master. Just look how different Githany's and Lumiya's whips are.
On the other hand, what do you think of the verdict ? For once, I'm the one who disagrees.
@Greensaber- Gemini. Oh no no, I agree that Caedus beats Windu, for sure. What I meant is, I disagree on Shado beating Plo. His age is kind of a negligible factor, as he has so many more Force powers at his disposal and knows how to integrate them while swordfighting.
Legacy is easily my favorite Star Wars era, and Shado Vao is one of my favorite characters of that time period. Your analysis here is spot on, and thanks for the shoutout bro lol. Always love talking VS matchups with you. Such a fun, and dynamic VS with two dominant Jedi Masters.
The Legacy era is really not even that good. Sure, it’s better than any of the shit Disney has given us in this “new canon” but it’s still the least awesome era in the old “legends” timeline (well, maybe except for the early New Republic years, the bantam spectra novels era).
And no, it’s not spot on. In no universe is Shado Vao on the same level as Plo Koon in like any field. The prequel/clone wars era Jedi are the peak Jedi of any era, especially in terms of martial prowess and dueling ability. Period. Lucas and other Lucasfilm officials have literally said that themselves more than once. And not to mention, Plo Koon has literally bested Yoda before; the only Jedi-the only known being period-to ever do so.. And Shado Vao wouldn’t even be able to touch Yoda.. Not to mention he’s also wholly stronger in the force than anyone in the entire “Legacy” era except for Cade and Krayt..
Great video man thanks I wanted to know more about Shado Vao
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!
A new episode of rob terras' versus series.
I can't make a bet yet but i'm rooting Koon.
By the way you make great content man.
Thanks for the kind words!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
Evan and Rob posting almost the same time? Guess that’s my evening sorted
A two in one special of versus videos first with Evanova95 and now this beast awesome! Can’t wait to see this video which I have no doubt to be a masterpiece
This is exactly what i was thinking.
Hope you all enjoy the latest versus video and third instalment in the legacy mini marathon! As always leave future suggestions down below!
Put on speed 0.75 to hear rob talk like a normal guy...touch the ball vs me
JomaVFX thanks for checking out the channel!
Shado Vao vs Kit Fisto, Shaak Ti, Ki Adi Mundi or Kavar
Yes!!! I cannot wait to see shado vao in action! Both of the best versus series you tubers upload on the same day? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one!
“Koh-to-Yah Master Vao, let us play”
Anyways, I’ve been looking forward to this. As sad as it is to see one of my favorite masters lose, this was still incredibly well done, and Shado always did strike me as an interesting and powerful character when I read Legacy vol 1. Well done Rob :)
Just found you tonight while binging RUclips to distract myself from my wisdom teeth being removed, and I’m very pleased with what I’ve found. Very good video, loved hearing your thoughts on this; hoping your channel gets more attention, and I just subbed. Keep up the good work friend
Thanks for checking it out man! Hope you’re not in too much pain lol
Man you got a few VS but the ones you do are so fkin interesting , nice job :D
Thanks for checking them out!
Darth Jadus vs Darth nihilus
This was a fantastic vs series video, i especially liked your analysis on Vao.
Great video man
Thanks for checking it out!
Could you do anakin skywalker vs darth maul, both of them at the end of the prequels (episode 3/season 7 of the clone wars)
anakin.
If Ashoka can deal with maul,i have zero doubt Anakin takes it handily.
Subscription earned! What a great vid!!! I’m biased towards Master Plo, of course, so your reasoning was a refreshing “alternate take”. How about Darth Caedus vs. Kylo Ren? You KNOW you want to “dew it”!
Thanks for checking out the channel!
How about Darth Caedus vs. Kylo Ren? You KNOW you want to “dew it”!
As a joke matchup, right? Right?
Oh, you mean a ridiculous mismatch between a powerful, ambitious, cunning and dangerous Sith Lord versus some emo twat with daddy issues who lost to a noob ?
@@yrooxrksvi7142 Kylo Ren’s loss was to Rey’s plot armor. He was a tall, athletic, well-conditioned Jedi from the Skywalker bloodline. He was trained by Luke. Darth Caedus had identical ancestry. Kylo Ren seemed to be able to perform advanced force feats. Bad writing doesn’t equal low power.
We never DID learn what Kylo’s father issues were. His Dad was a war hero and renowned smuggler. Part of the most elite team of galactic heroes since Obi-Wan,Anakin, and Ahsoka. The man who was brave enough to take a shot a Darth Vader himself on Cloud City. Being married to a high-profile politician, later “outed” as Darth Vader’s daughter, can wreck any family. Especially when your son’s inner “Darth” starts showing, and Palpatine has been screwing with his head via proxy.
@@AgentM79 Kylo Ren seemed to be able to perform advanced force feats.
What advanced force feats? All kylo has been shown able to do is telekinesis or the jedi mind trick, which any jedi or sith worth their salt or midichlorian is able to do, since its both a jedi and sith standard, and force stun, which while it is a rare and advanced force ability, kylo's use of it is pathetic and inconsistent. Darth malak and any other jedi or sith could use the ability to stun multiple targets and with much better efficiency than kylo. Beyond that, kylo's only other ability is force choke, which is already a dark side standard. Again, kylo's use of it is raw, basic, isn't anything special, and he doesn't even apply his force abilities in battle, much less at all. It's worse than any jedi or sith out there. Even Savage Opress is better than him.
Adding to this is kylo's lightsaber skills. He's a sloppy, clumsy djem so specialist who couldn't even defeat a girl with minimal training.
If I honestly had to rate him, Kylo's a mediocre tier 5 on the tier list
Something.....ANYTHING With Darth Malak....PLEASE...hes so under used in fights and even more criminally underrated.....Darth Malak vs Exar Kun or Darth Bane maybe?
@Emperor Vowrawn the ritual to give the finger to death?
Stay tuned....
The way you have described Shado's fighting style, I would think that he would have been a Niman practitioner. Was that ever a consideration?
When I was reading those comics I thought he was a Niman user
On Comicvine, I noticed they credit Shado with Plant Surge as he supposedly tangled Cade's ankle with a vine. Did you choose to ignore it on purpose as you felt it was too speculative ?
Jedi knight Revan (just after killing mandalore) vs general skywalker (after killing dooku) the two heroes of their respective wars flirting with the dark side but before each fall fully!
I am sure luminara didn’t take part in the stark hyperspace war.. and plo would not lose when he can deploy his lightning and malacia and throw in nimble, agile jumps and dodges when needed. People often call him slow and overly stationary/grounded but that aint always the case, he can be very quick if he needed to, if the situation called for it. He was restrained with his abilities but not because he was unwilling to use them!
Shado Vao is one of my Favorite Jedi
Watching this more thoroughly again, I disagree with the verdict. Much like someone else said, you stressed a bit too much on Plo's age, when it rarely presented itself as an issue unless he was struck hard to the point of breaking bones. While Shado is a very good fighter, there's nothing about him that would suggest him being such a heavy hitter. And Plo has great versatility in his use of the Force and powers at his disposal, unlike Shado. While he would definetely give Plo a hard fight, there's not enough to suggest he would be overwhelmed.
Plo Koon vs Sylvar or Darth Baras, Shado Vao vs Ventress
Vao was likely a master of Form 6 (Niman)
Bullshit. Koon can retaliate with electric judgement or other force abilities! Koon attacks based on his intellect.
Have you ever considered making a discord? I think that would be a really cool place to hang out and debate lol.
Legacy era characters are so far 3-0 in this season.
Funny I was thinking that as I uploaded this episode
Lmao man.. What IS it with all of these NJO/Legacy fanboys in the versus series?? Quite literally every one of them. And it’s blatantly obvious, especially that Evannova kid.. In NO universe is Shado Vao even remotely on the same level as Plo Koon as a duelist, let alone his superior. Listen, YOUR headcanon is not Star Wars; Plo Koon is the only Jedi to ever best Yoda in a duel. Shado Vao would get clapped by Yoda and it’s not even debatable…. Every one of the legacy era force users besides Cade and Krayt are completely overrated.
Plo never beat yoda
@@grandmashipreplacement3225 Lmao. Um, yes actually, he DID.
Because YOU don’t know about it, that means it didn’t happen. Lmfao. Narcissist…. Nice try.
@@dazdavis7896 why you so mad 😂 give me 1 source where it happened cause I guarantee you don’t know
Bro didn’t even respond 💀
@@grandmashipreplacement3225 kid you literally can’t read . I did respond you idiot. Once again, NICE TRY troll. You know nothing. You’ve already proven that. Stop trying.