Norman Finkelstein Visibly Flustered In Piers Morgan Debate w/ Yishai Fleisher
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- “Expect Mega-Deaths” Norman Finkelstein vs Yishai Fleisher
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Date: 28 May, 2024
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00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:29 Destiny's goal for Israel interviews
03:15 Rabbi Yishai Fleisher Debunks Destiny video
31:03 Norman Finkelstein vs Yishai Fleisher on Piers Morgan
#destiny
#politics
#debate
Jordan Peterson Gets Stumped By This Straightforward Question
►ruclips.net/video/VHohEWJ2Fmo/видео.html
More or less stumped than D trying to work out what a women is?
Destiny, you have been provided information on Palestinians from the region that you can talk to or get information about.
Israel has given land up, P's haven't. They've taken every piece given to them and militarized it.
Cenk and those claiming the plausibility of genocide, before the recent warrants went out, should apologize to their audience for their misrepresentation of the facts, seeing as theyre constantly promoting themselves as the bastion of truth and honest reporting.
Bringing in the PLO to fill the vacuum won’t necessarily fix the issues. When people feel like their government is pushed on them from an outside source there is an innate sense to push back. That’s why Karzai had to deal with a lot of civil unrest in areas outside of the Kandahar Province, and after 2009 he began to try and mend ties with the Taliban.
Ooh I’m the travel videographer Destiny mentioned 👋🏼 no pressure but I’ll do the best job DGG 😅🙏🏼
If not troll be sure to record some behind the scenes stuff :D could be fun for the second channel or yours
@@adamwinkler4148 no troll! And 100% I’ll basically be recording every moment. I’ll literally be in Steven’s walls 👀
Ayoo 👀 @@YobelPrize
@@YobelPrizecareful saying about being in Destiny's walls. We've just seen him with the hodge twins. Get right up in those walls! Yeeeaaahhh
If you do a bad job I'll blame August. You've got no weight on your shoulders.
People call Destiny a twitch streamer/gamer but Norm is out here using Halo kill streak terms like “megadeath”
Its a band as well as a disease. lol
First it’s megadeath, next it’s killionare
Norm is just a fan of 80s metal music.
@@williamfowl8670 kilo is for thousands. mega is for millions, which is still untrue
Somebody should AI Norm's voice into Halo saying stuff like "HEADSHOT," "RUNNING RIOT"
Mr Dr Borelli becoming one of Piers Morgan's favourite pundits was not on my 2024 bingo card 😂
HE HAS A CAT??? SINCE WHEN???
I said the same thing about the new live in wife.
@@nwerd7584you're getting timed out for this comment
You clearly aren't a true dgger.
@@yonaoisme toime me out dawg, i deserve it.
@@nwerd7584doubles up as emergency food.
The cat wants infinite right of return.
Blood and kitty litter
Hooooly shit, how did Destiny have an in-person conversation with Finklestein? That 1x speed speech would make me do some things in a video game.
Finklestein is a preview to how Biden may speak if he gets another 4 years.
Mr Spaghetti…
So he is a pasta
Mr. Raviolli
mr petroleum jelly...
Mr gnocchi
Mr. Vermicelli
Destiny plays Norm at x2, and I play Destiny at x1.25
And at that speed, Norm is pretty close to talking at a normal speed
That comes out to x2.5 speed
@@thatboi7492 Thank you for that amazing contribution
@@TheChromeMan3😂😂😂 cuh trolling
@@TheChromeMan3 Can confirm it comes out to x2.5 speed
omh that's why it's so fast ahahaha
And I thought my Chrome extensions are fucking with me
Yishai is 110% right. He talks like everyone else in the Middle East. This is how all Middle Easterners think and sees the world
The West needs to realize how Arabs in the Middle East see the world. It's all about theology, land, religion, and ethnicity. Economic equality and prosperity come last, when it comes to reasons for terrorism or war. Thats why the Arabs in the West Bank are more radical than the ones in Gaza, even though Gaza is obviously more impoverished
@@DanielS-zq2rr And surely, stealing their land is a beautiful way to help them ? 😂🤡
Norms "argument by attrition" technique never fails to zzzzzzzzzzz
The Gazan Gambit
@@SquibtoriousDestiny RUclips comments are S tier
@@roymarshall_ S as in stupid?
@@AgentLemmon Genius comment, you should write for South Park
This dude goes "Destiny is trotting out the tired old argument of compromise." In one breath, and then in the next says "ancient homeland."
How can you possibly bring out an even older MORE contested argument?!
Bro would rather Destiny say something interesting and wrong than something correct but boring
One thing I find hilarious about the "ancient homeland" argument is that according to the Old Testament the Hebrews invaded and conquered Israel the first time they came to "own" it, too. They even used "weapons of mass destruction" aka the Ark of the Covenant.
Ancestral homeland, my ass.
@@coonhound_pharoahyour ass? It's literally the birthplace of the jews.
@@coonhound_pharoah so you dont understand how indigenous status works
A better argument is just to note the Jews that were living there continually, _up until_ the 40s. But these guys are zealots; they can't help but refer to the Old Testament. If they didn't have the power of a state (and a superstate) they'd behave exactly as Hamas behave. In fact, they did. They were called the Irgun.
Finkledinkle is just mad he didnt get a jewlumni invite
to get that invite, you have to constantly shill for a foreign state across several livestreams
The Jewlumni could have taken care of his immigrant neighbours, permanently. He made a grave mistake in not earning their favour.
@@yamo511 Gotta love how any sort of pushback on the “literally hecking genociderino, open air prison” buzzword bingo is “shilling”.
FinkleDINKLE
Finally!!! He has learned how to talk to animals in a baby voice!!!
Charisma +10
Agility +3
+10 aura
He's also learned that the fuckers always want to be on the other side of a door.
@@NotKij -100 aura
-100 aura against redpills
He is now proficient in Animal handeling
I can't wait to see if The Leper King debate tactic gets wheeled out
Personally I wanna see the sponge wringer debate tactic in action
What’s the leper tactic? I vaguely remember hearing it but can’t recall.
Please let it be called Leper Messiah
Is that the Vader hands move?
😔🤚
Oh, I thought Finkelstilskin was the Leper King
honestly, Piers Morgan should invite Destiny as pro-Palestine to debate any of those pro-Israel weirdos on his show.
Destiny should debate himself
Well that debater was evenly matched if not way better than Finilestein right.
So it’s a fair debate lol
@@liavberman8226 nah i think Finkelstein was actually better here. It always annoys me when people repeatedly argue over the "ancestral homeland" shit. Because that's not ground for any reasonable understanding of solving a conflict. Thats just "here's why we fight and we have to win", the exact rhetoric Hamas engages in.
@@Drigallski I see what you’re saying . It’s weird cuz Gaza isn’t considered Jewish ancestral homeland anyways
@Drigallski because the muslims dont recognize jewish land
Do you think it's weird for native americans to show attachments to land or no? That too belongs to the abduls?
"divorced all the time" lmaooooo, i cant stand Hassan but this one is getting me every time.
Mr. Finkelstein has been intellectually outpaced.
right wingers must be missing part of their brain
Intelligence-creep
I think Finkletits is outpaced on everything.
Agua
By a genocidal maniac? Lmao
24:39 this guy is accusing Destiny of having some boring clichéd approach to solving the problem, then literally just proposes the solution of "we take all the land and the Palestinians who were here just fuck off forever".
That’s his solution. He thinks is god given land.
Remember guys “tourism would be a thing in the Middle East”
Why would I want to visit blood thirst individuals?
Yeah that guys is fucking unhinged. A lot of the worst pro Israel content comes from Israelis/Jews themselves. He talks shit about “white foreigners” but as always they’re the best advocates for Israel lol
Settler hypocrisy knows no bounds, only matched by their Hamas contemporaries.
@@ussJKhypocrisy? Immigrants come to the west, demand preferential rights for themselves, and displace the pre-existing population via DEI.
EUROPEANs are still cleansing Jews.
Muslims achieved dominance through settlement and colonization.
This guy doesn't propose genocide. Arabs have 23 Jew free countries. Nobody said anything when they evicted every Jew yes?
There's nothing more tired than a literal 3000 year old argument.
Destiny is scared of my profile pic, he keeps avoiding it.
He totally pulls off that bucket hat
My favorite fisherwoman
What in the Gilligan's island 😂😂😂
Joined the cause, thanks for opening my eyes to the truth bröther. INSHALLAH
@@pablo_sanchez479😂
I have never seen this amount of guzzling in one session
Destiny is unironically the Peace Maker joke of “I value peace with all my heart, I don’t care how many men women and children I have to kill to get it”
succinct analysis there, dr. tard.
"If you're going to talk that slowly, you better be concise". 😂
Finkelshtinker should have devolved into calling him names like he did you in the Lex Fridman debate.
Wasn't it warranted though? If a little weirdo like Destiny would challenge me while i have been studying and have actaul life experience on the subject for decades then i would literally slap his ass for talking out of his ass.
Is that the same guy who said "You deserve titty slap for that"? Highly intellectual
i think the discussion over "the longest occupied in the history" is kinda stupid. Because in that framing, you'd need to question whether a lot of today's states are an ongoing occupation that no-one cares about.
Shoutouts to Ireland, maybe all of the UK, Germany's borders (regardless of which side you argue it would be a nightmare), the balkans, arguably southern Spain, Constantinople, Cyprus, India, French-Guyana etc.
Which of these places are under military occupation and military law?
Lol, and yet they were all solved except for this one.
None of these are actually legally occupied though. People in these places might want breakaway states, but they are still recognised as full citizens of the countries they're in with all of the rights that affords. Palestinians in Gaza/West Bank are not absorbed into Israel and made citizens. Israel doesn't claim them because they don't want them, and they defend against accusations of apartheid by specifically claiming that these are not actually parts of Israel and the citizens are not Israelis. They don't get to participate in Israel, and they also don't get their own sovereign states to participate in, and it's been like that for literally decades.
Furthermore, parties in Israel like Likud specifically do not have any intention of ever changing that. Their own charter rebuke any attempts to create a separate Palestinian state or to absorp the people of Palestine in as citizens.
@@krombopulos_michael today and legally yes. But my argument wasn't to say anything specifically about the current conflict, but rather to argue around the point of "is this the longest occupation ever". And technically you could say yes, as in "there were no laws that regulated occupation way back then". But this really misses the point i originally wanted to make.
@@heinshaaine8153 the only one is Cyprus being a touchy situation where both sides ethnic cleansed each other lol
Finkeldicking right now
finkledicking deez nuts
Norm is such a gross person. Just looking at his angry spite-filled face is off putting. I thought I was spiteful but holy moley. He purposely called Destiny Mr Bonelli… and laughed about it so proudly… this is another level of spite
Some of the things he smirks at are incredibly questionable.... I think he may be slightly psychopathic to be completely honest haha
@@carmangibhe definitely is. Did you ever hear about his apartment neighbour incident.
Guy is completely unhinged
@@carmangibhes unironically evil. Just seeing how he treated his neighbors should reveal that, let alone how he engages with Israel/Palestine.
You are being as petty as destiny right now
@@Guidance4you2 😆 🤣
Yishai is actually, at heart, a good guy. He is the representative of Hebron and the self-appointed leader of Judea and Samaria (Yishai--if you ever read this, correct me if I am wrong!)!
He is very dedicated to everything he does and his commitment to Israel and the Jewish people is commendable!
FYI--Hebron, a VERY debated area, is only 3% Jews and the rest of the 97% is all theirs and Jews are not even allowed. Which is why some of the streets, checkpoints and houses are laid out a bit oddly. There are a few orgs who give tours from their perspective, while Yishai does the Jewish POV. Sadly, very few watch/tour both. And they should!!
Self-appointed leader of Judea and Samaria sounds like a stretch
Just found out this isn't Lin Manuel Miranda
Someone needs to find out what happened to that poor immigrant family who had to live next door to Wrinklestink and suffer through all his threats to keep it down or face deportation. That was a months-long dispute and I need to know how it ended!
Fr that's the real story I want a update on.
the fact you arent hearing the other side relative to an outcome says all it needs too.
TOO BAD APES!
YOU’RE NOT SLEEPING TONIGHT!
😮 Update please‼️
I don't understand why Destiny just let it drop. I say this in all seriousness, people should know who Finkelstein really is.
All I can think is that the family themselves don't want it to be a thing and Destiny (among others) know this? Perhaps they and Fink came to a legal settlement?
It is so wild though that this guy is actually a real, genuine racist degenerate misanthrope, and no one seems to know or want to know.
Hebrew names for regions in Israel Judea and Samaria are pre-colonial, names of areas in other languages are post-colonization/imperialism of foreign groups
Did that guy essentially say "stop telling us about the western compromise when you don't know that here in the middle east we fight to the death for our land"
Oversimplified, but yes.
Lol, yyyup. And Destiny still glazed the F out of the dude even after being insulted by him on top of it lol.
@ronniekregar3482 lol I felt that too, but try to watch it without debate pdf glasses. He was just being nice/didn't slam into him. Not exactly glazing
@@sixsideddeath5529 I mean... He called him Dr Destiny in the most condescending way possible lol. The that's Jewish version of calling him a Wikipedia Warrior lol
@@ronniekregar3482 Honestly there are so few people who even engage with Destiny's actual statements that it puts this guy on the short list of good faith actors. That's why he was so positive about him - almost nobody else even does that much.
One thing that has gotten particularly annoying to me when people are criticizing discourse is when the person criticizing invokes gender or race of the people discussing a topic. Whether or not someone has “skin in the game” really has nothing to do with whether or not people should be allowed to discuss a topic. In this case, he said “two white guts with no skin in the game”. The hypocrisy is, I’d imagine he’d have no problem with the United States, a majority white country, sending aide to Palestine. Even though these white US citizens, technically have no skin in the game as he would say
My favorite response to this idea is this: I may not be a helicopter pilot, but when I see a helicopter in a tree I know somebody probably fucked up!
@@jeffwells641 🤣🤣🤣 exactly!
I think that guy was a Pro-Settler Israeli, so he might be against Palestine getting aide. But yeah, he'd probably see nothing wrong with Israel getting aid from the USA.
In reality, the US and her citizens do have skin in the game; so much skin, in fact, that Israel depends on the US for its existence.
I love the way he constantly interrupts and talks at 100 miles per hour, but tries to look really calm. I absolutely hate the guy.
Goddamn I forgot about the 1v20 of norm vs Mr. Corelli, Bonelli, Bonelli, Borealis, Bonel, Brenalis, etc
Damn, TWO Bonellis. Were they related?
It’s his two ex wives duh dude
Destiny's wondering why palestinians from the region don't have much of a presence online right now. I can't understand what could be stopping them.
Not being media trained and coming off to agro . Most Palestinians refuse to learn any other languages ( 90% of English speaking Palestinians are half Palestinians)
@@nhpkm1 Is that right? I thought most videos online can be subtitled in English.
@@nhpkm1Talk about a comment going over someone's head. I think you missed the f-cking point pal!
@@woofbane9028I don’t think he missed the point.
He discounted it. And reasonably so.
@@DocRoc94 So having no safe place in Palenstine or no having no iternet or electricity. A lack of food and water would not make it damn hard, if not impossible for a Palestinian to be focused their social media presence. How does that f@cking seem unreasonable?
And what makes it even worse is that his reply was answered and f@cking shot down!
MISTAH BONERELLI
The Fabulous Moron! 😂
On the swedish wiki for Finkelstein it is written that he has a self purported IQ of 70. Now while I have found no verification of this, listening to him for an extended period of time has lead me to find it to be at the very least plausible.
Plausible??? That's such a high standard I suppose I must accept this as absolute fact with no extra research or nuance or investigation at all it is super high standard and also is synonymous with fact if plausible it's a fact wow XD
😂😂😂
I noticed Destiny's got a new wardrobe
I never hated both sides of a conflict more
"I find it far-fetched that the inmates of a concentration camp would be begging the guards to stay in the concentration camp." You just owned yourself, Norm.
My clients would love to go to a prison with fine dining on the beach and 3-star resorts.
The way he actually ends the video before Destiny gives the exact same answer about Palestine’s unique situation is staggering to me.
great stuff!
:-)
Wow! I did find his speech slow cuz I have you on 1.5 and I think I saw you put him on 1.75 and I still felt like I was fully understanding and like hearing everything that was being said. 😂
Maybe it says something about your attention span.
@@AgentLemmonJust say that the speed is too fast for you.
@@AgentLemmon I do have ADHD, in a hour long video, please get to the point asap
@@Isekarl Me too, although i have ADD
Thanks for keeping it real, your authenticity is refreshing
thanks for keeping it inorganic
Thank You for Supporting Israel
Ninja you’re literally a bot 🤖
these vods are necessary i dont watch streams much and im glad theres always these stream vids
Doctor Destiny sounds like a Bond villian.
Destiny you should check out Corey Gil Shuster. He does interviews all over Israel and the west bank, sometimes other countries as well.
destiny getting emotional about being called a gamer lol cringe
Very rarely in history when a power vacuum is created that the same group that occupied b4 is able to refill. Whats filled in is usually someone worse, more dangerous, more violent, more radical.
Ngl as a casual observer Yishai came off worse than Norm here, he wouldn't stfu when it wasn't his turn to talk
Regarding the historical homeland argument... does that mean all humans have the right to settle in East Africa, since that's (probably) where humans originated?
Maybe if we maintained a lot of cultural aspects but we do not, there is no African culture or people
If anything the historical homeland argument is pro-palestine, since the Palestinians also descend from the Jewish people that never left the region and later converted to Christianity or Islam.
Not to mention the Israeli cultural detachment from the features of the region (easiest example would be the olive tree situation) and it's very surprising that they would use that argument.
Do you say that to any other indigenous group? No.
@@duabzthis does not hold a strong because the arabs do not like to be identified as Jews or their Jewish ancestors in any way. If they denounce it how can pro-filistine people use this argument.
@@lincabe321 Even if they deny jewish ancestry I've never seen a palestinian deny that they're indigenous to the land but i don't mind being proven wrong.
I've only seen that from hardcore zionist who claim that palestinians are arabs from the peninsula even though they're not adnanites or qahtanites and all DNA and historical evidence points to palestinians being arabized levants/canaanites who are native to the region.
Doctor Destiny! 😂😂😂 That was hilarious.
1:12:41 Happens lots of places, my dad talked about how it used to be during The Troubles that a place like Derry in Ireland would have an Irish name and an English name and you needed to be very careful because if you called it "Derry" in Northern Ireland you'd end up in a bar fight over it and if you called it "Londonderry" (the English name) in other parts of Ireland then you'd also end up in a bar fight...
More recently you also have the Ukrainian Kiev which is the Russian Kyiv and they fight over that name...
nah make it free brother
From the river to the sea catestine will be free. Open the door and keep it open!
sometimes destiny you should just suck it up and learn that some people can have a clearer vision of the problem, specially that they endured it their whole life. And this is coming from a lebanese.
Wrong. People that live through a thing often have a warped view of what is reality. They only know how THEY feel felt or see it
Guarantee people thought the end times were happening during the World Wars or even the Great Depression. Did that make them right?
@@Just2Platypus So when a Palestinian says that all of Israel should be destroyed, what he really means is that he just wants a hug? we are from the West so only we truly know what they want!
@@Just2Platypus I believe you are mixing two important things. When you are being abused and terrorized your whole life by Hezbollah and Amal movement and Palestinian militias in Lebanon, who tf are you to know better than me? you can pearn history from a point of view of some guy studying papers and archives, or you can pearn history from someone who's lived through it his whole life and also studied it on paper and archives. stop with the gaslighting attitude.
"Briefly?" 😂😂
"open air prison" is ridiculous - It is a territory under blockade. - you can say it is "like an open air prison" sure, but not that it is.
Common Israeli glaze video
It’s nice to hear him openly condemn the settlements as harshly as he did. I knew he wasn’t just “Israel good Palestine bad” but this is the first I’ve heard of him actually saying something specific that he very much so condemns. I don’t think he realizes how little he speaks on stuff like that and that’s why he gets confused by people characterizing him as this evil pos
He say it constantly. He usually always brings it up when people ask him what a resolution to the conflict would look like. No offense to you but people who say he hasn’t/doesn’t condemn Israel for some of the things they do just don’t watch him consistently.
@@KentPhillips that’s what I mean when I say I know that that is his position and that he has stated it and yeah your right I don’t watch him consistently but I watch enough of his Isreal Palestine debates that to literally have not heard him say anything specifically condemning something once, only referencing times that he has before was just odd. And it’s exactly what contributes to that image that people have of him because even people like me who watch him somewhat regularly have never actually heard him say it, and most aren’t going to have my reaction to it, instead they behave in the exact way you described where they think he will do any mental gymnastics to defend almost literally everything that isreal does
Almost all of the internet right now is pro-palestine, he does not need to bolster their arguments with facts (all pro-palestine positions are based on appeals to emotion and nothing else) when he's trying to champion Israel.
Despite the fact that all of the facts on the ground support a pro-Israel position, Israel STILL needs all the help it can get with the political landscape being what it is right now. There are many topics where presenting both sides clearly is VERY good, this is not one of those topics.
@@reddillon8425 that’s a load of bullshit. Neither side should be “championed” here, it should be about finding an actionable solution. If that means pushing more heavily against one side because they are disrupting that possibility more primarily than the other than of course you should do that, but that doesn’t mean you “champion isreal” to “help them in the political landscape” that’s incredibly fucking stupid
@@KentPhillipsIf you were to analyse all of Destiny content for the last 7 months. About 95% has been about why Palestinians are wrong and they don’t even exist and Israel is right and all the leftists are unhinged. When you focus on one side you cannot complain when it creates a skewed perception. 99% of Destiny haters don’t know he condmens settlements and it’s his own fault.
It’s weird to see someone complain that Destiny isn’t on the Israeli side enough
did he compare taiwan with Israel and China with Palestine? Did I hear that right? what a doofus
He compared Israel with Taiwan and ALL of Islamic Countries (Iran, Palestines - Hamas, Yemen - Houthis, etc) with China
We love you destiny
speak for yourself
someones mad lul.
Strong black woman
Btw I went to Hebron last summer with the PA, and at H1 (the Arab-Palestinian side) they all refer to it in english as Hebron. Its all “Hebron Chamber of Commerce,” “Hebron Glass Blowing…” not a single person I spoke to said Al-Khalil in english. I dont speak Arabic, and I’m sure they say it in arabic, as they say Al-Quds with Jerusalem, but it is commonplace to say Hebron, and highly unusual to call it by its arabic name in English. It is purely a virtue signal, and no logical person and no one in the PA would refer to it that way. Just seems so weird americans trying so hard to virtue signal on this.
destiny on 2x speed sounds like a young ben shapiro
I get that you’re an atheist… but religion is a massive factor in this turmoil and has to be considered in any solution.
Watched this debate last night. You arguments would be better received without the attacks and the emotional lashing. Just sayin' don't stoop to Finklestein's level. Mouin and Benny stayed calm and collected without the attacks.
If he stops doing that, you'll be the only one watching. I prefer it.
@@nwerd7584 I suppose drama has entertainment value but just don't lose your cool is what I'm saying. Lose your cool, lose the debate. IMO, Destiny did a lot better in the Shapiro, Peterson and Gorka debates.
@@clarktran5879 I dont watch the ones where Destiny doesnt chimpout, thats his super move. I love it, and its a strength in an area all these people cant hang. With added pressure and ad hominem you get great moments. If I watched to watch a general debate between 2 people reading factoids they read or studied somewhere versus actually lived, Id go to the university.
Without personality a debate between 2 people, could be any 2 people with the same research. Almost all these debates arent around actual life in the situation they're talking about. So its detached. Thats a weak form of competitiveness.
Benny told him to try being more aggressive after the intermission because they weren’t getting anywhere and Fink was wasting time telling Benny what his own books mean.
I hope you can debate this guy. Seems like it would be a tense but good conversation.
Destiny does a far better job advocating for the pro palestinian side than the majority of pro Palestinian activists we see get massive engagement on social media or on TV. His view on Israel would also be considered mainstream just a few years ago, but so much of the radical left has gone insane that they think he's a hardcore ultra right wing zionist.
I love your ability to not get super defensive when someone attacks, and even see value in his criticism of you.
Who here thinks Hamas wants peace and a state?
Are you Jewish? Or are you some basic white American 🇺🇸 like me?
Cuz if you are….I genuinely don’t know why you would care 😂❤
They want peace and a state, Just after a whole load of killing.
@@Macheakowhy do u type the same heart emoji in every comment? u trying to be one of the p0rn bots?
53:32 "..SHUT UP!!.." -Finklesmug 2024
This is supposedly a "scholar" folks 🙄.
Behold the majestic 8-head of Stinklepeen!
do they teach lawyers to stand like that why do they all stand the same way 🤣
I was listening to this as I got ready this morning and I was so sure this was ShortFatOtaku turning on Destiny for clout before I looked at who’s speaking lmaooo
Too many replays of that Norm clip from the debate. It's starting to come off as super salty.
Tbf salt is warranted. His detractors label destiny the out of his depth Wikipedia gamer. That clip shows a blatant error on the part of the scholar. It's an excellent example of why "he's an authority" doesn't necessarily trump the contents of a counter argument from a layman.
"I-I'm d-definitely not a n-norm fan but please stop showing that clip please destiny it makes him look so b-bad" - you
@@reddillon8425 I think Destiny is a far better debater than Norm, and he won that debate incredibly hard, next accusation?
Why wouldn't he be? He's even admitted as much... Prominent historian (Western audience perspective) resorts to toddler like insults in debate that required over a hundred hours dedicated to reading and note taking. Wasting the time of everyone involved.
@anotherks7297 Ya, but he keeps repeating the video to US, his audience. We already agree with him, is this debate clip gonna be in the next 10 videos too?
The Israeli settler - “Destiny is a video game streamer who knows nothing”
Destiny- “Hmm maybe this guy has a point”
The glazing is reaching shameless levels here
The guy's supposed to be giving him a tour, didn't he say? I mean it might not be a good idea to badmouth him before that
Is Destiny a settler? Jews live in their own land they defend
Someone needs to clip that segment with receipts between Norm and Destiny yano.
Oct 7th was not a terrorist attack. By your own definition, Destiny.
The death of innocent Gazans is just the horrific tragedies of war
Then Oct 7th is just the horrific tragedies of war, for as you know, they've been at war for decades
@@Arnold-vc7eshow would rape make it no longer a war? There was rape of Germans during ww2…
October 7th was a terrorist attack because 1. Hamas is a terrorist group and 2. Hamas deliberately targeted Israeli citizens while Israel is targeting Hamas soldiers which can lead to civilian casualties and injuries on civilians.
@robloxjada61 it's just the horror of war
video starts 6:50
DDS (Destiny derangement syndrome)
48:11 saying it's unhinged to say a military that recently killed 3 of the hostages they were trying to rescue while they were shirtless waving a white flag and asking for help in Hebrew isn't following the principle of distinction... You are unhinged if you think they are doing the bare minimum to discriminate their targets.
holy shit...no way that was 1.5 speed, when you turned it off it sounded like .5 speed... wow.
Love to see you doing the journalistic work. Stay cool. 🙏
Dr. Destiny 🤓
As soon as destiny revealed he’s meeting this guy in Israel any chance of unbiased analysis went out the window
Why? A tour guide and translator don't make opinions for you, especially if he isn't choosing the route.
Why?
This is a bot
@2010platinumstar Yeah, read the bio. Tf?!?
These sex bots are getting EXTREMELY complicated lmfao
edit: oh nevermind it's just stolen from another comment. I failed the Turing Test, take me out back and put me down boys.
When you be there, you'll understand everything quickly
Destin listening to destiny in 2x😂
I love how obsessed Destiny is with Norman, the first time he was the weakest link in a debate. That insecurity has really stuck with him months later
Empathy is actually very important in solving problems. Insane destiny would say such a thing
I don't know how
He definitely has psychopathic traits
@@EmperorDxD Because you can cater to the needs of all parties involved in an effective way, and make attempts to bridge the gap between both parties
@@DavidJones-ot8qu yea no you don't need empathy for that
@@EmperorDxD You actually totally do. How can you cater to needs and bridge gaps without understanding the thoughts, motives, experiences, and emotions of the parties involved? At that point, you're literally just guessing
Can we please stop with the 2x speed destinyyyyyy
For Japan- you need a 4-year university degree and to pass an interview/trial before going to Japan (to get the visa) to teach English- Source- my experience. for some countries in the EU, you would need that plus a teaching certificate (total waste of money). For less developed countries. . . ??? I don't know.
Jews deriving from the Middle East is based in historical fact, archeology, linguistics and genetics, it’s not a religious myth
I mean they're called Jews because they come from the kingdom of _Ju_ dea named for the tribe of Judah.
@@Awaken_To_0actually more so, we call ourselves Yehudim (Jews) who get our name from Yehuda (Judah) the tribe and region we come from
@@Awaken_To_0actually more so, we call ourselves Yehudim (Jews) who get our name from Yehuda (Judah) the tribe and region we come from
the argument is not that they don't come from the middle east
the argument is that you're appealing to religion to decide that god has given them that land and they deserve it because god gave it to them
massively different things
@@reddillon8425 No, the argument is that they're European Colonizers taking the land as the arm of White American/European Imperialism. However that's not true, at least no moreso than Palestinians are "Arab Colonizers."
Both sides claim the land is significant to them due to their religion and history. There's a reason it's called " The Holy Land" That's why both of them want Access to and control of Jerusalem. It's one of if not _the_ most holy site in the world as far as the religions of Abraham are concerned.
For the Jews it's the capital of their ancient kingdom and the site of their most legendary and holy temple, the temple of Solomon.
For the Muslims it's the site where the Prophet Muhammed ascended to heaven and spoke with God.
For the Christians it's the site of Christ's death and resurrection.
Finklestein is doing the Sneako serious face in that Piers interview
guy said "west bank is our ancestral land" I was waiting for Destiny to pull out the time machine rebuttal but he never did - and that is very annoying
It still baffles me that norm spent 40 years of his life, focusing incredibly hard on become a master of a certain political situation. And when he gets his chance he blows himself up with ad hominem and a embarrassing lack of professionalism and tack.
Deatiny still hasn't recovered from that debate
What is the 'leaked' footage that keeps being brought up?
34:11 turning that playback speed up even higher made me smile
tell Israel to stop vetoing UN resolution for the 2 state solution accepted by the rest of the planet kthxbye
Damn, that’s a very compelling argument, if the rest of the comment section votes and decides that you should shout yourself in the foot are we allowed to criticize you when you decide not to?
The rest of the planet? What a bunch of bs.
@@DonXardas lol?
@@backwardthoughts1022the rest of the world can accept it but hamas and israel have not reached a proper consensus. Hamas has stated that if a two state solution was enacted it would be a truce that lasted for 5 years yet their official stance is still the destruction of israel.
@@thomasmusgrave7595 hamas is an irrelevant recent development, israel and usa have been vetoing for decades while increasing the scale of their occupation every year to the ridiculous point hamas recently became a thing.