L.C. Dunsterville is my great great uncle and really glad this was made as he is not well know outside military circles and was quite a character. His nephew was Hurbert Dunsterville Harvey-Kelly (my great uncle) was the first British flyer in France of the war, and was the central figure in the arras memorial in both 2014 and 2017, well worth reading up on.
This is honestly the most amazing story I’ve ever listened to from WW1. Even in the horrors of modern war and revolution, this is an echo of the tales of Empire
This is why I love this show. Every week I learn about something I had never heard of before. And next thing I know I'm on a deep dive to find out all I can. I love it. Keep up the great work. You guys are among the best things on the web.
Didn't see that you were covering the Dunster forceow until now. My Great-grandfather served in that force and was present at Baku. I've always fancied it made him a technical participant in the Russian Civil War (being in Russian territory when there's a civil war on!)
The Fatheland disregarding culture, he was on land owned by the Russian Republic or Russian SFR depending on opinion, it would eventually become part of a Soviet Azerbaijani Republic, but by means, he was in Russia.
Out of curiosity, do you have any stories from him or anything to say that confirms all this stuff? xD It seems almost too far-fetched to me sometimes haha.
The Peace Mouse it was owned by the Baku Commune and later Centro-Caspian Dictatorship. However that’s not the reason it wasn’t part of the Russian Civil War, it’s not part of the Russian civil war because you have whites and reds working together with the British to fight World War I against the Turks, Azeris and Georgians. Had world war 1 been over the whites and British would have been fighting the reds, that would have been a part of the Russian civil war
@Aggressive Tubesock You know I remember when there was a time when movies weren't judged based on the color of their skin but by the character of the movie. If this is a story about white saviors sure I agree with you but this isn't, it's a story that tells the tales of many different peoples and it is interesting enough. The White savior british did not accomplish their mission, they merely served to tell the tale of chaos.
Precisely why this series should not end in 1918 or 1919. The Great War had after-shocks and effects well into the 20s and 30s, and were the major reason for World War II. I would vote this series to continue its weekly updates through the 20s and 30s.
A fiery auto with the speed of molasses, a cloud of dust, and a hearty Hi-Ho Ford motorcars! Dunsterforce! Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear! Dunsterforce rides again!
Really puts thing into perspective, 100 years and although we’ve made cataclysmic technological advances, ideals that are decades old, are still thriving in certain areas in the world. Some things change, while others stay the same.
Hi Indy, I remember hearing a story about a German mission to Afghanistan during ww1 in an attempt to get the Afghanis to rise up against the British in India. Basically the Germans took the worst possible route and by the time they arrived in Afghanistan it was too late. Although that didn't stop them from trying. they then proceeding to drink and eat pork while guests in the afghanis homes, angering the Afghanis to the extent that the Germans had to flee Afghanistan. If you have already done a video on the story please let me know. Otherwise I think it would make for a great special episode
Hugely entertaining, Indy! But thanks, too, for the somber reminder at the end to put it all into perspective; "People died here." I wish you, Flo and the team all the best for the new year. Am I going to have to miss you guys after 11 November, or do you have something up your sleeve?
What a great Christmas gift you, Flo, and all the GW staff have put together! I will be very sad after 11/11/18 when you guys close up shop. Maybe you can follow the Versailles Treaty in 2019?
No you're not done. This is your new job. All the war and revolution between the two half of the same war await you. I hope you and the crew take up the challenge
11:38 really sums up the Iraq war. It was easy to overthrow Saddam Hussein"s government but putting something in its place has proven to be very difficult.
Hi Indy and Crew ! I love the show, you guys are amazing ! Well, i have a question for the Out of the Trenches. How archaelogical sites were treated in the war ? They were respected ? Destroied? Did any kind of object were discovered during the digging of trenches? A happy new year and support from Brazil! Thanks !
Baku was a boomtown, locals became an extreme minority as the population exploded because of the exploitation of the oil. F ex the Branobel Oil Company, strated by the Swedish Nobel brothers and the world´s largest in the world in 1914, was set up as late as 1876.
Most of this will be repeated less than twenty years later during the Spanish Civil War. Enthusiasm and revolution meets reality. Foreign military advisors beating their heads against the wall of local customs. Supposedly allied factions at each other's throats. A hundred decrees and official statements, for every possible tactic. Combat mismanagement that makes Custer look like a brilliant victor at Little Big Horn. Like here, if not for the sheer slaughter involved, it would have been an unbelievable comedy.
HAPPY NEW YEAR, really enjoyed the special, looking forward to more. Question, how far do you plan to go past the great war? As of today you have only hundred years to catch up.
Happy new year team, keep up the good work... A question for out of the trenches: nearly every battle yields prisoners, how many does every faction have by now (it must be nearly a million or so...) What were the conditions? Did they receive medical treatment and how many under which circumstances returned after the war?
Dunsterville was correct, when looking in hindsight and Stalin's purge. After the revolution of Russia (USSR at the time), there was chaos when Stalin started killing off people who he thought was a threat to him with all the people who died at the time in the birth of the USSR. However Dunsterville wasn't looking in hindsight, foresight he had.
Hey Indy and crew I have been stuck on this question for ever and I would like for you to solve it could you hip fire the vickers heavy machine gun or did you have to use it on a tripod thank you Indy
scott howard Theoretically, it is possible. However, the Vickers is water-cooled so you’d need to carry water as well as ammunition. It would be incredibly heavy and unwieldy, rendering it rather pointless as a hip-fired weapon. The Vickers was designed to lay down fire over a wide area for lengthy periods of time and, as such, is best used on a tripod.
Hip firing a Vickers is the sort of thing that if it ever happened; it wasn't planned. So dumping the water out and firing only a few rounds (less than a full belt) moving from one position to another is the most I'd ever expect from that sort of thing. As soon as you were in the new position, you'd lay up and refill the water before shooting again. But yea, woefully impractical.
scott howard It has happened John Basilone fired a Browning 1917 (which is very similar to the Vickers) from the hip during the battle of Guadalcanal during WW2. He would go on to receive the Medal of Honor for his actions during the battle.
L.C. Dunsterville is my great great uncle and really glad this was made as he is not well know outside military circles and was quite a character. His nephew was Hurbert Dunsterville Harvey-Kelly (my great uncle) was the first British flyer in France of the war, and was the central figure in the arras memorial in both 2014 and 2017, well worth reading up on.
This is honestly the most amazing story I’ve ever listened to from WW1. Even in the horrors of modern war and revolution, this is an echo of the tales of Empire
WW1 is the death of empires.
This is one of the most interesting story of the war, should be a HBO-series
Definitely!
Should have done that after lawrence of arabia
generation kill style
👍
Yes we need it.
We need a tv show about this and the battle of baku in general.
This is why I love this show. Every week I learn about something I had never heard of before. And next thing I know I'm on a deep dive to find out all I can. I love it. Keep up the great work. You guys are among the best things on the web.
Didn't see that you were covering the Dunster forceow until now. My Great-grandfather served in that force and was present at Baku. I've always fancied it made him a technical participant in the Russian Civil War (being in Russian territory when there's a civil war on!)
The Fatheland disregarding culture, he was on land owned by the Russian Republic or Russian SFR depending on opinion, it would eventually become part of a Soviet Azerbaijani Republic, but by means, he was in Russia.
Out of curiosity, do you have any stories from him or anything to say that confirms all this stuff? xD It seems almost too far-fetched to me sometimes haha.
Are you Azerbaijan, or was your great grandpa just a Russian serving in the army?
The Peace Mouse it was owned by the Baku Commune and later Centro-Caspian Dictatorship. However that’s not the reason it wasn’t part of the Russian Civil War, it’s not part of the Russian civil war because you have whites and reds working together with the British to fight World War I against the Turks, Azeris and Georgians. Had world war 1 been over the whites and British would have been fighting the reds, that would have been a part of the Russian civil war
There should be a movie about Dunsterforce
This could also make for a great mini series on TV
We need a Kickstarter
I wonder if these events are so obscure purely because of the name.
@Aggressive Tubesock You know I remember when there was a time when movies weren't judged based on the color of their skin but by the character of the movie. If this is a story about white saviors sure I agree with you but this isn't, it's a story that tells the tales of many different peoples and it is interesting enough. The White savior british did not accomplish their mission, they merely served to tell the tale of chaos.
a Dunsterfilm
"See you next time which might be next year"
>Published on Jan 1
Welp see you in 1919 Indy!
:p
Now I wish they could make a movie, or even a TV series, out of this. It's really amazing. Nice work and Happy 2018 to Indy and all the crew
Precisely why this series should not end in 1918 or 1919. The Great War had after-shocks and effects well into the 20s and 30s, and were the major reason for World War II. I would vote this series to continue its weekly updates through the 20s and 30s.
A fiery auto with the speed of molasses, a cloud of dust, and a hearty Hi-Ho Ford motorcars! Dunsterforce!
Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear! Dunsterforce rides again!
Nice Lone Ranger reference!
Really puts thing into perspective, 100 years and although we’ve made cataclysmic technological advances, ideals that are decades old, are still thriving in certain areas in the world. Some things change, while others stay the same.
Happy New Year 1918! Or 2018, whatever...
spoilers we still have to fight for 11 months
Quite amazing, and totally unknown. I think that Dunsterville probably means Azeris, when he referrs to Tartars
Yes, it just russian that called all turkick/muslim tatars
We made it to the last year of the war :(
this year the war will be over by christmas :/
Spoilers
They said that in 1914 too, pff don't lie.
Woah I did not know this theatre was so ... Eventful? Yeah! Great Video!
4:47 greatest way to say that the Great war was everything but simple
4:45 this is... amazing.
Happy New Year 1918!
All the love :D
SERIOUS
Congratulations
I love all the photos. & Those words of Dunsterville about revolution at 11:38 Those words are relevant for even now.
Hi Indy, I remember hearing a story about a German mission to Afghanistan during ww1 in an attempt to get the Afghanis to rise up against the British in India. Basically the Germans took the worst possible route and by the time they arrived in Afghanistan it was too late. Although that didn't stop them from trying. they then proceeding to drink and eat pork while guests in the afghanis homes, angering the Afghanis to the extent that the Germans had to flee Afghanistan. If you have already done a video on the story please let me know. Otherwise I think it would make for a great special episode
Yeah, it's a story we have our eyes on too.
What a fun n interesting tale. We should see a movie about this. It doesn't deserve to be forgotten at all. Great job.
There needs to be more movies/mini series set around this time period!
That's quite the Bizarre Adventure.
Happy New Year!
What That, This is madness. Now Thanks for Point Chart. Bravo Dunsterforce
Just so we're on the same page here, guys, I'm not the only one who keeps hearing Indy say "Dumpster Force", right?
Nope. I thought it was all the decongestants, but I keep hearing 'dumpster,' too. That and I keep thinking of _Dunston Checks In_ for some reason.
Julius von Brunk probably, I'm hearing Dunster Force.
If you can find them maybr you can hire THE DUMPSTER FORCE!
This was amazing. This should be a movie.
Fantastic piece you presented. i loved it. thank you.
A ship called the President Kruger...on the Caspian?? That's a long way from the Transvaal...
I know WWI was a meatgrinder horror show of Biblical proportions, but this was an genuinely thrilling, almost adventurous sounding, tale.
Happy new year folks
Great tale of an (unknown) campaign. But then I expected nothing less from you and your companions Happy New Year to you all.
Hi Indy and Team, great episodes part 1 and 2.
Excellent presentation. Had a bit of a difficult start but loving it overall. Will embed it with our history of the silk road, 1918.
This NEEDS to be a movie.
4:14 - 5:00 😂😂😂 This is the most stereotypical first world war moment in terms of explaining
This is modern war... more or less
Amazing story thank you guys... You should do a special episode about mount lebanon great famine 1915-1918
This was much more interesting than I was expecting.
happy new year indy! :D
Waste of british lives to aid incompetent revolutionaries. Still would love to see a movie about the whole thing.
arwing20 Ali and Nino is set in the period and touches the siege
Your videos are always so interesting! Thank you and happy new year!
Hugely entertaining, Indy! But thanks, too, for the somber reminder at the end to put it all into perspective; "People died here." I wish you, Flo and the team all the best for the new year. Am I going to have to miss you guys after 11 November, or do you have something up your sleeve?
Thanks and happy new year for you too.
Really interesting unknown story, great work guys.
Happy New Year Indie and all The Great War crew!!! 🎆🎇✨🎈🎉🎊🎋
What a great Christmas gift you, Flo, and all the GW staff have put together! I will be very sad after 11/11/18 when you guys close up shop. Maybe you can follow the Versailles Treaty in 2019?
Please cover the Diktat des Versailles!
Professor Graves wait the Series will end in November??
Ali and Nino is a great novel that talks about the siege of Baku.
yidgamer Thanks!
You're welcome! I hope you enjoy it!
4:15 - 5:06 ROTFLMAO from Serbia.
Cheers, great story, worth checking further into.
What a story. A total chaos...
Happy New Year to the whole team of 'THE Great War'
4:42 :D
You should do a bloopers special for the new year :D
Happy New Year Indy and The Great War Team !!!
You guys should do a special on the Central Caspian Dictatorship I’ve tried to read about it online but I can find much.
This battle was like the Fall of Saigon for WWI
Thank you for this little gem ¡Feliz Año Nuevo!
No you're not done. This is your new job. All the war and revolution between the two half of the same war await you. I hope you and the crew take up the challenge
Very interesting and amazing story
Happy New year Indy and team!
The book has now sold out on Amazon. I wonder if this series had anything to do with it?
1:27 I love your maps to death, but the place-names are ridiculously tiny, it's impossible to see what those places are if you didn't already know.
11:38 really sums up the Iraq war. It was easy to overthrow Saddam Hussein"s government but putting something in its place has proven to be very difficult.
would be a perfect McNale's navy comedy adventure series
4:42 Literally LOL'd.
Luke Bunyip Me too
Utter chaos, I love it!
Please please please do a special on Persia!!
Hi Indy and Crew ! I love the show, you guys are amazing ! Well, i have a question for the Out of the Trenches. How archaelogical sites were treated in the war ? They were respected ? Destroied? Did any kind of object were discovered during the digging of trenches? A happy new year and support from Brazil! Thanks !
Dunster was extremely observant, intelligent, progressive, and basically brilliant.... A rare man worthy of much respect
A thoroughly modern major general
Dumpsterville -- is that in New Jersey?
Maybe i missed it, but isn't Baku a Azerbaijani city, so wouldn't the majority people of it be Azeris?
Baku was a boomtown, locals became an extreme minority as the population exploded because of the exploitation of the oil. F ex the Branobel Oil Company, strated by the Swedish Nobel brothers and the world´s largest in the world in 1914, was set up as late as 1876.
Azeris were mentioned in the 5:15 episode as "Tartars".
great channel!
Staring at 4:30 this would be a great movie but no one would believe it.
Most of this will be repeated less than twenty years later during the Spanish Civil War. Enthusiasm and revolution meets reality. Foreign military advisors beating their heads against the wall of local customs. Supposedly allied factions at each other's throats. A hundred decrees and official statements, for every possible tactic. Combat mismanagement that makes Custer look like a brilliant victor at Little Big Horn.
Like here, if not for the sheer slaughter involved, it would have been an unbelievable comedy.
Happy new year Great War.
I loved the story, but the suffering fixed that.
Cheers mate
Happy New Year.
Dunsterforce T shirts?
Its weird that movie of this doesnt exist.
thank you,
5 Dictators? sounds like UN for me...
Or EU...
there more than 5 dictators
"You genuinely cannot make this stuff up" - LOL
HAPPY NEW YEAR, really enjoyed the special, looking forward to more. Question, how far do you plan to go past the great war? As of today you have only hundred years to catch up.
Well done Baku
Baku welcomed all of us!
Dunster understood revolution!
I just came to watch 4:45
4:45 an egg inside a chicken inside a duck inside a turkey inside a sheep inside a camel at the bottom of the sea
‘ridiculous situations ‘ are part of human life...
Happy new year team, keep up the good work... A question for out of the trenches: nearly every battle yields prisoners, how many does every faction have by now (it must be nearly a million or so...) What were the conditions? Did they receive medical treatment and how many under which circumstances returned after the war?
Dunsterville was a childhood friend of Kipling's and appears in his stories
Ironically war would end christmas but ended a month before xmas
heh..hehe... Baku had a bacoup
wiring the front refers to laying telegraph lines?
Keep it up
... Ethan, proud of you.
Hello Well played
Please so a Specials about "Operation Klein".
Dunsterville was correct, when looking in hindsight and Stalin's purge. After the revolution of Russia (USSR at the time), there was chaos when Stalin started killing off people who he thought was a threat to him with all the people who died at the time in the birth of the USSR. However Dunsterville wasn't looking in hindsight, foresight he had.
and now we see the general effectiveness of "the dictatorship of the proletariat" in action.
Will the war be over by Christmas?!
Hey Indy and crew I have been stuck on this question for ever and I would like for you to solve it could you hip fire the vickers heavy machine gun or did you have to use it on a tripod thank you Indy
scott howard Theoretically, it is possible. However, the Vickers is water-cooled so you’d need to carry water as well as ammunition. It would be incredibly heavy and unwieldy, rendering it rather pointless as a hip-fired weapon.
The Vickers was designed to lay down fire over a wide area for lengthy periods of time and, as such, is best used on a tripod.
Hip firing a Vickers is the sort of thing that if it ever happened; it wasn't planned. So dumping the water out and firing only a few rounds (less than a full belt) moving from one position to another is the most I'd ever expect from that sort of thing.
As soon as you were in the new position, you'd lay up and refill the water before shooting again.
But yea, woefully impractical.
Cheers
scott howard It has happened John Basilone fired a Browning 1917 (which is very similar to the Vickers) from the hip during the battle of Guadalcanal during WW2. He would go on to receive the Medal of Honor for his actions during the battle.
Given how the safety and thumb trigger work, I doubt it.
11:02 Hilarious!