The Man Who Taught WESTERN Humanity How to Think. While Plato was a central figure in ancient Greek philosophy, there were several influential thinkers and philosophical traditions developing in the East and Far East around the same time (4th to 3rd centuries BCE). These thinkers and traditions were not directly connected to Plato but often addressed similar questions about ethics, governance, and the nature of existence, though from different cultural and intellectual perspectives. In the East (India, Persia, and Central Asia): Confucius (551-479 BCE) (China) Role: Confucius, the founder of Confucianism, emphasized ethical behavior, social harmony, and respect for tradition. His ideas about virtue, governance, and familial duty resonate with some of Plato's ideas about the ideal state and the role of individuals within it, though Confucius’ focus was more on practical morality and societal order. Key Ideas: The Five Relationships (ruler-subject, father-son, husband-wife, older sibling-younger sibling, and friend-friend) and the idea of the superior man (Junzi) were central to Confucian thought. His ideas would later influence Chinese philosophy and governance for centuries. Zhuangzi (c. 369-286 BCE) (China) Role: Zhuangzi was a prominent Daoist philosopher, building upon the ideas of Laozi (who authored the Dao De Jing). While Daoism and Plato’s thought differ significantly, both philosophers were concerned with the nature of the ideal life and the harmony between the individual and the cosmos. Key Ideas: Zhuangzi emphasized spontaneity, naturalness, and the rejection of rigid societal structures. His work critiques the value of formal education and law, suggesting that true wisdom comes from understanding the natural flow of the world (the Dao). Mahavira (c. 599-527 BCE) (India) Role: Mahavira was the 24th Tirthankara (spiritual teacher) of Jainism, a religion focused on non-violence, self-discipline, and asceticism. His teachings on ethics, karma, and liberation (moksha) align with some of the ideas Plato had about the soul and the pursuit of virtue. Key Ideas: Mahavira emphasized the importance of non-violence (Ahimsa), truth, and non-possessiveness (Aparigraha) as paths to spiritual liberation. While his focus was on ethical living and self-control, there are parallels to Plato's emphasis on the importance of virtue for the well-being of the soul. Buddha (c. 563-483 BCE) (India) Role: Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, founded Buddhism, which shares certain similarities with Plato’s views on ethics, the soul, and the pursuit of higher knowledge. Key Ideas: The Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path emphasize the path to overcoming suffering, self-realization, and enlightenment, which bears some similarity to Plato’s views on achieving a well-ordered soul and knowledge of the Good. Plato’s Theory of Forms and Buddha's notion of ultimate truth (nirvana) may both be seen as reaching for an ideal beyond the material world. Chanakya (c. 350-275 BCE) (India) Role: Chanakya was a philosopher and statesman, best known for his work, the Arthashastra, a treatise on statecraft, economic policy, and military strategy. Key Ideas: Chanakya’s ideas on governance, ethics, and social responsibility may parallel Plato’s Republic, especially in his view of the importance of the ruler’s virtue and wisdom. While Plato advocated for philosopher-kings, Chanakya believed in pragmatic governance and the importance of strategic thinking. Pythagoras' Influence in the East While Pythagoras was a key figure in Western thought, his mathematical and mystical ideas also influenced the East. Though not contemporaneous with Plato in the East, his notions of numerology and mathematical harmony eventually found their way into philosophical and spiritual traditions across India and China. Concepts similar to Plato’s Theory of Forms might have been inspired by the metaphysical ideas that Pythagoras propagated. In Persia and Central Asia: Zoroaster (c. 1200-1000 BCE) (Persia) Role: Zoroaster (or Zarathustra) was the founder of Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of Persia. While Zoroaster lived centuries before Plato, his ideas on the duality of good and evil, the role of divine judgment, and the importance of human agency could resonate with some of Plato’s themes in ethics and the ideal state. Key Ideas: Zoroaster’s teachings included the concept of free will, dualism (good vs. evil), and the importance of good thoughts, good words, and good deeds, which relate to Plato’s philosophy of virtue and the role of justice in society. The Persian Philosophical Schools (c. 5th century BCE) Around the time of Plato, Persia had influential philosophers, particularly within the Magian or Zoroastrian priesthood, who debated issues of ethics, cosmology, and the soul. These discussions might have overlapped with Platonic thought, particularly in terms of metaphysical ideas about the afterlife, the soul’s journey, and moral philosophy.
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The Man Who Taught WESTERN Humanity How to Think.
While Plato was a central figure in ancient Greek philosophy, there were several influential thinkers and philosophical traditions developing in the East and Far East around the same time (4th to 3rd centuries BCE). These thinkers and traditions were not directly connected to Plato but often addressed similar questions about ethics, governance, and the nature of existence, though from different cultural and intellectual perspectives.
In the East (India, Persia, and Central Asia):
Confucius (551-479 BCE) (China)
Role: Confucius, the founder of Confucianism, emphasized ethical behavior, social harmony, and respect for tradition. His ideas about virtue, governance, and familial duty resonate with some of Plato's ideas about the ideal state and the role of individuals within it, though Confucius’ focus was more on practical morality and societal order.
Key Ideas: The Five Relationships (ruler-subject, father-son, husband-wife, older sibling-younger sibling, and friend-friend) and the idea of the superior man (Junzi) were central to Confucian thought. His ideas would later influence Chinese philosophy and governance for centuries.
Zhuangzi (c. 369-286 BCE) (China)
Role: Zhuangzi was a prominent Daoist philosopher, building upon the ideas of Laozi (who authored the Dao De Jing). While Daoism and Plato’s thought differ significantly, both philosophers were concerned with the nature of the ideal life and the harmony between the individual and the cosmos.
Key Ideas: Zhuangzi emphasized spontaneity, naturalness, and the rejection of rigid societal structures. His work critiques the value of formal education and law, suggesting that true wisdom comes from understanding the natural flow of the world (the Dao).
Mahavira (c. 599-527 BCE) (India)
Role: Mahavira was the 24th Tirthankara (spiritual teacher) of Jainism, a religion focused on non-violence, self-discipline, and asceticism. His teachings on ethics, karma, and liberation (moksha) align with some of the ideas Plato had about the soul and the pursuit of virtue.
Key Ideas: Mahavira emphasized the importance of non-violence (Ahimsa), truth, and non-possessiveness (Aparigraha) as paths to spiritual liberation. While his focus was on ethical living and self-control, there are parallels to Plato's emphasis on the importance of virtue for the well-being of the soul.
Buddha (c. 563-483 BCE) (India)
Role: Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha, founded Buddhism, which shares certain similarities with Plato’s views on ethics, the soul, and the pursuit of higher knowledge.
Key Ideas: The Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path emphasize the path to overcoming suffering, self-realization, and enlightenment, which bears some similarity to Plato’s views on achieving a well-ordered soul and knowledge of the Good. Plato’s Theory of Forms and Buddha's notion of ultimate truth (nirvana) may both be seen as reaching for an ideal beyond the material world.
Chanakya (c. 350-275 BCE) (India)
Role: Chanakya was a philosopher and statesman, best known for his work, the Arthashastra, a treatise on statecraft, economic policy, and military strategy.
Key Ideas: Chanakya’s ideas on governance, ethics, and social responsibility may parallel Plato’s Republic, especially in his view of the importance of the ruler’s virtue and wisdom. While Plato advocated for philosopher-kings, Chanakya believed in pragmatic governance and the importance of strategic thinking.
Pythagoras' Influence in the East
While Pythagoras was a key figure in Western thought, his mathematical and mystical ideas also influenced the East. Though not contemporaneous with Plato in the East, his notions of numerology and mathematical harmony eventually found their way into philosophical and spiritual traditions across India and China. Concepts similar to Plato’s Theory of Forms might have been inspired by the metaphysical ideas that Pythagoras propagated.
In Persia and Central Asia:
Zoroaster (c. 1200-1000 BCE) (Persia)
Role: Zoroaster (or Zarathustra) was the founder of Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of Persia. While Zoroaster lived centuries before Plato, his ideas on the duality of good and evil, the role of divine judgment, and the importance of human agency could resonate with some of Plato’s themes in ethics and the ideal state.
Key Ideas: Zoroaster’s teachings included the concept of free will, dualism (good vs. evil), and the importance of good thoughts, good words, and good deeds, which relate to Plato’s philosophy of virtue and the role of justice in society.
The Persian Philosophical Schools (c. 5th century BCE)
Around the time of Plato, Persia had influential philosophers, particularly within the Magian or Zoroastrian priesthood, who debated issues of ethics, cosmology, and the soul. These discussions might have overlapped with Platonic thought, particularly in terms of metaphysical ideas about the afterlife, the soul’s journey, and moral philosophy.
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Its philosophy.... It is interpreted as you interpret it.
See the kind of claims made. Philosophy is concerned with the question that you're asking. What is knowledge. To which I would reply 'how do you decide what is knowledge'
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The other philosophers get similar consideration. Fact is they left out the tools we need.
What philosophers were or philosopher was left out?
@irevelato they made sure no friends left behind
Thus the current mess
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I don’t so not everybody