Wing Chun - How to Understand "Structure"
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Wing Chun Kung Fu taught by Retired Police Officer and Tactics Expert, Dominick Izzo.
Dominick Izzo has been training Wing Chun since 1998 and has been teaching in the Chicago area since 2008. He was the first American Wing Chun instructor to be published and published in back to back issues in Wing Chun Illustrated.
He is known for his realistic, aggressive and combative approach to Wing Chun Kung Fu. Unseen footage of Officer Dominick Izzo, 1992 Varsity Wrestling match at 135 lbs. Wing Chun Lessons every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday
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Dominick Izzo has been training and teaching Ip Man lineage Wing Chun since 1998 and is recognized as one of the foremost authorities on Wing Chun for combative applications, having an extensive history in law enforcement, including special teams, tactics and warrant services.
You're seriously one of the best when it comes to teaching the practical and realistic fighting systems. I'm glad you're on youtube.
Wow, I can't thank you enough.
Excellent explanation. Thanks again for taking WC in the right direction.
Thank you!
Legit Wing Chun instruction on this channel. Thanks so much for your work to spread good Wing Chun!!!
Great video, nothing to say more than so realistic.
Thank you.
Excellent video. I love the pressure testing of the structure!
Insightful and thought provoking as ever. I love the fact that you think for yourself, reach your own conclusions and, that you will also explore and admit to your own shortcomings when you find them (e.g. 52 Blocks video). Thanks for all your output and yes, you do talk a lot Dom, please continue!
This lesson is one of many amazing vids you have put out. I wish I lived near you so I could train there but I will be diligent with the instructions you give and spar with who ever I get a chance to spar with. Great video!
Thank you, I am truly honored at your comment. Please let us know what else you'd like to see us cover. Feel free to post suggestions on our facebook wall. facebook.com/izzotacticalcombat
Excellent vid. Thanks for uploading.
Thank you!
Beautiful natural flow of close quarters human combat.
I personally believe that kicks are as important as punches .Hopefully , Sifu Izzo will talk about kicks .
Just wanted to say been watching you videos for awhile and while I might not agree with everything you say I do agree with alot and I think my teacher would have liked your approach too! Keep up the good work man looking forward to watching more of your Videos :)
Thank you!
I like he is having his own theory on fighting. Good to watch this.
Hey Izzo when you're pushing your student are you pushing him straight across or are you pushing him upward at the same time? (The one where he doesn't move right before you shove him and he does move). Great video btw!
Fantastic as always.
Excellent video!
This is great! Thanks Izzo!!!
Not a prob Pete, yeah... this guy talks alot but he's legit.
i really enjoyed this video...i'd first want to state that i'm italian and i hope to be able to make you understand my though...
that being said i have a question about the balance concept:
in my understanding wing chun structure is really strong at holding strenght coming from front and from the back while is weak when you attack from the sides (i'm referring about the concept of the triangle: to attack the weak sides of the triangle).
Don't you tink would be better to keep the balance when you push to the right or the left shifting your weight? usually if a force is applyed on sides means that the opponent is attacking fron that side and so i'm not facing him square and my structure is not aligned the right way
Good work keep up with the videos!!
Mr. Izzo: Not sure if this question has been asked, but I am new to Wing Chun and study in Seattle. I am also freaking old.. 48 yrs old. I have studied TKD, Goju Ryu etc but I feel like I am not progressing as fast as I want in WC. I am built kind of like you and it feels like my upper body flexibility sucks...do you have any tips for me to improve? By the way, your videos are awesome! Straightforward and no bullshit!
I hope the videos I did for March have helped a little.
Yes, structure is a VERY misunderstood theory in Wing Chun. Hopefully this video will clear it up for a lot of people, nice job.
100% explanation out of experience and not mimic theory. Btw, do you agree that forward pressure stance excersize can be learned and straightened by pushing against the wall or a tree? Although understandably immovable objects are static but just power-focus-wise?
To be more accurate there's a full 360 degrees of direction around your centreline (centre of balance) you need to be aware of, not just 4 points.
Great video! ;-)
thanks for this vid
The video of Sigung Chu Shong Tin? (4:20) Not too sure if myth.
I like your style
You learn Structure from Chi Sao and Chum Kiu, that are the basic exercises for learning your structure.
Yes, they help.
Hate to change the subject, but this question has been asked of you before and I have yet to read any sort of reply from you. Being the Bruce Lee "non fan" that you are...do you think you could have beaten him one on one, no rules, just you and him? Please answer this question not just in text form but with a video reply. I thank you now for your timely response. You Tube is waiting....
No Justin, youtube isn't waiting, youtube doesn't care about your childish bullshit. RUclips prefers real content like what is given in this video.
If you want great content, you're on the right channel.
If you want stuff for retards, go somewhere else, the choice is vast.
Bill Murray No one was talking to you. This question was directly asked to Mr. Izzo. So you probably find something else to do and your mother or father probably told you to never speak unless spoken to. In this case YOUR silence is Golden
Justin Case Very nice reply confirming my comment about arrogant retards and childish bullshit, I rest my fucking case.
Oh and if you don't want replies from others, use private messages and don't post your comment publicly, idiot.
RUclips is not waiting, no one cares about you.
In northern China wing chun is known as Orthodox Shaolin. Where all the best moves of shaolin where put into 1 system. Maybe that woman monk introduced it to the south when they burned down the temple at that time...there is no fact in wing chun history cause our awesome system is passed down 1) informally and 2) who cares.
Great video Izzo!! crazy !! me and a fellow student had this same discussion yesteday. And it was the same stuff... Keep em coming...if kung fu lives in everyday life. in all the movements like taking off the jacket and putting it on..then who are these people to say what wing chun is and what it isn't??
Thank you!
That on escapes me. I'll probably have a better perspective on the next video. :)
well i dont believe that structure is misunderstood in wing chun in fact maybe is the only thing that its not :P, Structure is the most important part of wing chun and its about maintaining your position and never be controlled by your opponents pressure just like you said... this is the main and maybe only principle of wing chun stance... And in Wing Chun you wait for your opponent if the circumstances allow it, if you get to an ambush situation again you try as fast as possible to make the opponent play your game and control (kill the opponent) the situation as fast as possible and as safe as possible... But in a scenario that the opponent talks you in a fight while he gets ready you have you circle that you wait for the opponent to enter... that way in one in one situation wing chun is unbeatable... because an amateur wing chun practitioner has two moves for one of the opponents, a medium wing chun practitioner has 3 moves and a master has 4-5 moves...
Fuck yeah! Great video!
Nice explanation. You could almost be a hung ga sifu! Your explanation stopped at receiving pressure, which made your discussion defense-oriented, which isn't characteristic of you. Structure is also the platform for generating and issuing the power that makes your hits authoritative and decisive. It also is a tool for breaking down the other guy's structure, whatever it may be. By the way, I commented before about waiting for a chi sao discussion. You provided it, I checked it out. Thanks much.
Thank you, all the best!
I find it amusing that so many people who watched this video want to pick it apart and criticize it. It's not just this video, but most martial arts videos. Not one of you is a perfect martial artist. NOT ONE. As a true martial artist, you should be aware of your faults, weaknesses, and mistakes. A sincere and true martial artist knows they will keep learning until the day they die. They will never know everything there is to know. They will never execute every little detail with perfection. They know there is always more. You spent time to watch this video for some reason. If it was to seek new knowledge, maybe you got some. If it was to compare your study with a different one, know you know where you stand. If it was to watch another practitioner to pick him apart... you need to take a better look at your petty self and answer the question of who you really are.
First. This should be good
good structure (as u call it a myth)is not when you open-spread your leg.u have to train to the normal position and it comes in high level after 15 years of wright trainning.It is not a myth if u see it and feel it(few people can manage)and it is the same with or without power.ok i agree nobody can wait so much but if we follow other way it will always remain a myth indeed.
If someone needs to take 15 years to discover their structure, there is something very wrong with their methodology of training. Or the person they train under.
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts
i was talking about good structure on krisis.i am not talking the structure that we test friendly in training.it may seems impossible to someone to succed perfect structure on krisis but ii happens cause i know people who can.15 years izzo to master an art are not much.iam not talking about handle the basics but master tha art.that doesnt mean that after 3 or 4 years the structure sucks.thank u
lazefistz"the METHOD" indicates the student.
Wing chun mas meant to be taught in 1/3 of the time of the other martial arts. If someone needs 15 years of training to learn wc that means for other systems you need 45 years!!! There will always be sifu that need long life students just to take the money from them.... with the right method you can learn good wc and complete the system in 5 years.... and then train your own stuff and make it better and better. Training never stops....
Achilles Myrmidon
wing chun was meant to be taught in that sort time maybe 200 years ago when the training was private and all day !!dont say lies to people.tell that you can do till you know.it is not bad .it is honest!u cant master an art in 5 years!!look envery art in every stage...other thing i know the movew and the basicw and other master the art..
Why not demonstrate Wing Chun In a fight where there is no holding back?
because it would probably end in seconds and with one of the participants in the hospital... unless your talking about an MMA type setting, then that wouldn't really be "no holding back" as there would be rules forbidding things like neck strikes. You will notice about half of the strikes in WC are aimed at the throat. Maybe WC could be adapted to be more useful in a rule constrained game like MMA, but that doesn't seem to be the mindset of this channel.
Altonahk this is a serious question. if you only go as far as sparring (I have yet to even see that) then how will a person know if this will actually be effective in reality. You constantly see how effective Brazilian Jiu jitsu is in MMA fights. Therefore, I would easily invest my time in BJJ. I would like to say the same for Wing Chun. And yes, that would mean you need to adapt to MMA rules.
MMA is still just sparring. It just has looser rules then most sparring does. Drills that imitate real life self defense are far better at testing this. In the end, it's about experience. Either you get experience by working in a field such as corrections, or you learn from a teacher with experience. I would advise you to read from good authors, as well. I would suggest anything (everything) by Rory Miller.
Is it a 110lb WOMAN beating a 200lb man you have a problem with, or the weight (difference) itself?
There are cases every year of little woman fighting off attackers twice the size and weight
***** The reason it works is because the well trained 110lb woman is most likely going to be fighting an untrained 200lb man if its out on the street. If both are trained then obviously the bigger stronger person is far more likely to win.
Its the same way they have weight classes in boxing, Floyd Mayweather is probably technically the best boxer around today but you couldnt just stick him in with a heavyweight boxer but if you put him in with a guy the same size who had no fighting experience then he would most likely win.
Wingchunguy - Ronda Rousey is a great example of girl who can rip the arms off of most 'untrained' men, crush them, rip off their heads. I thinks she can likely take trained men her size and bigger as well.
Not to mention, she's damn hot.
MThaiKid I'm a big Ronda Rousey fan but if she went in to the same weight class in the mens division of UFC there's no way she would win, she might beat some amateur MMA guys but not proper professionals.
Also she's not really a good example as she's someone at the peak of her game and also an Olympic medallist in Judo. I was talking more about an average woman who has trained for a few years and trains hard but not to professional or Olympic levels coming up against just a regular guy of the street who does no training at all.
If we reflect on the legend, it's logical to assume that Yim Wing Chun trained just enough to be able beat the ruffian who was harassing her into marrying him. In regular cases, martial artists train to be able to defend themselves against untrained opponents. But being trained in martial arts is never itself a 100% guarantee of victory in an altercation, or a life and death situation, as there are so many factors to consider. It just makes you more efficient and slightly increases your survival chances more than the average person.
Dexter Chu - Well let me help you out with that. (This is not my writing) Source Google Search - The Truth about Wing Chun's Past - Its an interesting read.
Yim Wing Chun was a mythical character carefully constructed by the art's true founders to keep both its origins and its teachers secreted from Ching Dynasty authorities. "Wing Chun" itself means "Everlasting Spring" symbolizes its founders' focus on the "rebirth" of the Ming Dynasty. During the early 18th century when the Southern Shaolin Temple was destroyed, a suffix was added to the Chinese character "Wing" to change its meaning "to praise." This was a reminder to the art's practitioners to spread the word continuously about a rebirth of the Ming Dynasty.
Yet even more interesting: The Triads formation was not for criminal purposes, the original purpose was to overthrow the Qing and restore the Ming to power.
In any case this is a much more believable story. There are many more facts that support the excerpt above. So next time a SIFU tries to sound all smart, you can correct him (or her), on the true history of Wing Chun. At that point I would pack my bags and leave the gym.
Evolution built in several fighting patterns for man, they are designed to find out who is strongest so females can chose their mating partner.
What happens?: big blows, pushing, pulling, the lower back gets stiff etc.
Its all about strength. These programms in the neuromuscular system confine the body to a certain fighting type.
When someone says fight like a women i hear: "Fuck that comparision bullshit, give him no opportunity to apply force and hurt him in an unfair way." So actually the opposite of strength based competition.
A smaller person cant defeat a bigger person? It has happened and will happen, even in documented situations like the early ufc and especially the gracie fights.
I wouldnt say "Wasnt developed by a woman". I'd say "Its unlikely in my opinion".
But say what you want, its a free internet :) Greetings from germany
I feel sorry for Matt. He gets slapped around by Dominick a lot!
You don't see what he dishes out in class!
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts How about a highlight reel of Matt dishing it out in class?
Besides, if you're paying attention and have a strong grasp of the fundamentals, getting slapped around by the instructor is often one of the best ways to learn.
+taumax I feel sorry for Matt for different reasons..
+Officer Dominick Izzo - Tactics and Training 😂
practioners make ving tsun hard force with force.if done correctly it takes no effort at all
I agree with some of views and disagree.in ving tsun if you do not learn how to minpulate energy.the femine aspect of ving tsun that so many practitioners that do not understand this.I find it very easy to handle people ex times my size.because I learned you have to manipulate energy
Well, women are certainly adept at manipulation.
Such a shame, you've missed the whole point from the old masters, I hope you learn true structure soon, coz video showed a small percentage of your true potential.
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I prefer kenpo
Another great insight, cheers! Regarding street fighting training but on a more humorous note ;) check this..
watch?v=qFV1iFVJUoA
Woman no win chun is how to beat or to defend against someone who is twice your size so taller heavier stronger to train for that is win chun you will than only succeed if you understand the relatively advantage of certain technicks against other technicks and can recognice these instant without thinking just by feeling
Mr. Izzo. Hopefully YOU understand where my question of "do you think you could of defeated Bruce Lee one on one?" is coming from. You self admittedly LOVE to stir the pot, which in turn gets people thinking, pondering, fuming..etc. Whatever the case may be. And that is good for the sake of great conversation and equally great debates. I admit that I keep coming back to your channel just for that reason alone. You are extremely opinionated and I can't knock you for that because of the simple fact that I am the same way. If you don't like what I am saying then don't listen. Your HIGHLY intelligent fan Mr. Bill Murray who claims that I am childish and retarded for posing a legitimate question does not get the point. I am sincerely hoping that YOU DO. No matter what your answer is it can only serve as a great topic for discussion/debate. I never thought of a lot of the points you bring up about Bruce, but I can't help but to disagree with a lot of them. Case in point your opinion of his second and third hand not being as developed as it could have been. The only other time I have ever heard that in my life is when Dan Inosanto said it in an interview and believe me my jaw literally almost hit the floor. This is coming from someone who was closer than almost anyone with Bruce. So when I hear it from someone like yourself, who may not have even been born but a few short years before Bruce past away I find that a little disrespectful. Now again, that is just my opinion. I was and still am until this day a huge fan of Bruce. He was very influential to me in both my childhood and my adult life. And even though you stand by your opinion that he had no influence on you whatsoever...I beg to differ. Just the simple fact of his popularity alone had a huge influence on the martial art boom that swept the country back then. If he had not brought Wing Chun and JKD out into the light, YOU may not have been the Wing Chun practitioner that you are today. So again Mr. Izzo I ask, do you think you could have defeated Bruce? Keep doing what it is that you do, for without a doubt you have influenced many people with what you bring to You Tube and that is worth mentioning no matter what the discussion....Peace to you and yours.
More than 22 lines on that retarded Bruce Lee question that nobody cares about but you ? wow, talk about inflated sense of self importance and complete delusion...
Yes, I could have beaten Bruce Lee. Anyone has the chance too...he was a man, not a god. Anyone, on any given day, can beat anyone.
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts Thank you Mr. Izzo for your honest reply.
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts Brilliant reply, Sir! From Day #1 of my San Soo studies, my instructor said, "Anybody in this room could kill anybody else in this room." No matter how good somebody is, there are just too many variables in a combat situation. Even the best can have an off day, and even the worst can get lucky.
Dominick izzo doesn't do the Kim yueng mah stance correctly therefore he has no good wing chun.and he's always looking at his hands.you should look forward at a high point in the distant horizon.inhale and exhale into that point.it's called mok lik eye power.
Like watching paint dry
Hahahaha sorry!
Love your channel Dom. Izzo but as i said, Sifu Sergio's structure is perfect imo, invite this man for an seminar and be amazed. The Real Internal Skill. Wing Chun Spring Tour 2014 Impressions
Love your channel Dom. Izzo but Sifu Sergio's structure is perfect imo 7 Bows skill demonstrated by Sifu Sergio during an IWKA Wing Tjun Instructor Seminar
Let me know if you have ever trained with him and what you have FELT.
Izzo Tactical Combat Martial Arts I actually have trained with him and he's the most humble, technical and skilled fighter there is. Every fighter who has the chance to go to one of his seminars i would advice to do so. I would love to hear your opinion after training with him and i hope you guys keep working together. Thanks for replying Sifu Izzo i also send you an PM. This is one of my most favourite youtube channels, keep up the good work my friend.
It seems like your Wing Chun deteriorates with each new video. In the starting demonstration, you stumbled around the entire time--no real footwork, no triangle. And your pak sao (something between a pak and a gum) 'chased' the opponents punch, following his arm even after the attack was deflected. These are rookie mistakes. Seems like you've been so focused lately on creating click bate material ("list of bullshit sifus", etc), and proving that you have superior wing chun, that you're losing the art.
Back when Wing Chun was my primary discipline, your videos used to be useful training aids. You had solid insight. Now it's all badmouthing and theory, and it shows in your expression of the art. Refocus on what really matters.