Ok, here's the problem: asking a recovery center about addicts is fine, but there is a difference between opioid addicts and opioid dependency. Ask chronic pain sufferers if they would give up meds if there was a cure for their condition, you'll hear a choirs of people say "absolutely!. People who are suffering do not get a euphoric feeling from the meds, but a measure of relief. No one that has intractable pain takes a pill and is "pain free." That said, take away their meds and they are now in excruciating pain, have elevated blood pressure and will most likely have a heart attack or stroke. Doctors abandoning their patients happen everyday now, and do not find another provider to continue their care. Doctors are scared and have been arrested and incarcerated due to an overzealous DEA. Pray you don't have to have surgery, because you will be given Tylenol and Motrin, even in cases of open heart surgery, amputations, c-sections etc. This is our reality, and it's only getting worse. No one in the pain community is treated as a patient anymore, but rather a criminal/drug seeker where we have urine tests, pill counts (and that's if you are prescribed meds and/or if the Pharmacists decide to give them to you. They can now override your Doctors prescriptions. Americans are being tortured and nothing is being done about it. When the CDC guidelines came out, and the DEA started arresting Doctors, America set the tone for the rest of the globe. This Government created a vaccuum and that's where the fentanyl crisis was born. They wouldn't treat a dog or cat as badly as they do humans these days. So, if you, the reader is scheduled for surgery, please, please ask how they plan to control your pain post surgery. Get it in writing and hooe they keep their promise. Maybe reporters can cover what the real story is today?
@@Steve-ev6vx This is neither funny, nor correct. Why do you judge and mock disabled people? Does that sound reasonable to you? Do you know if the person you left this comment for is in cancer treatment, or has had an amputation, or 3rd degree burns over 40% of their body? No, you don't. Just because you struggle with drug use doesn't mean everyone does. There are tens of millions of pain disabled patients across North America who suffer with complex, degenerative, and terminal illnesses who thrive on safe and effective pain management, who remain on a stable dose for years, even decades. Opioids allow functionality and a quality of life. Are you advocating that legitimate disabled patients should be medically abandoned, driven to the deadly illicit market in desperation, or forced to turn to suicide? Is this who you are?
@@DovesBells and we found yet another one defending their drug of choice, yet probably look down your nose at any addict without a prescription and an ailment you deem bad enough.
@@Steve-ev6vx Excuse me? Are you accusing me of "looking down" on people who struggle with SUD? That seems to be more your attitude. It certainly isn't mine.
@@Steve-ev6vx I advocate for ethical care for ALL people, whatever the medical condition. That includes you and the ones you love. Nobody deserves to be judged, shamed, mocked, misdiagnosed, stigmatized, discriminated against, or medically abused and abandoned. Unfortunately, we have a failing health care system, and millions can't access compassionate care. Disabled pain patients are sufferimg and dying, as are people who use illicit substances.
The epidemic is about money. In 2020 there was 90k death from ods and 87 percent of those drugs were street drug not prescriotion meds. Lawyers made billions sueing big pharma. Did you think they are going to sue a drug dealer on the street - no way as no money in it. I am sorry for anyone who lost a loved to an overdose. But when in 2020 many patients were cut by their drs opiods for pain and suicide went up 472 percent. If the need for pain is real it is NOT addiction.
I'll be honest, I could care less about junkies. It's a choice you make to abuse substances. My issue is the undue suffering, especially our veterans. Give people whatever they need to stop hurting, and stop prescribing garbage like gabapentin that only makes matters worse by making patients gain weight, making any pain worse. This is ridiculous!
Yes they are. And it's not just chronic pain. They're using essential oils after 2 hr c-section and ibuprofen script for an amputation. They're sick in the head. These people need to experience pain themselves. We are not addicts - we are pain patients. Those two are worlds apart.
They need to deal with people who abuse illegal drugs and leave the pain meds alone. I NEED my pain meds but don't get them because there are no doctors where I live, just nurses and they act like they don't know what they are doing.
I'd like one person who truly believes that Chronic Pain patients should NOT get the meds they need TO WALK (CRAWL in MY shoes for 1 day, I doubt you would make it thru without screaming!
Why have strict guidelines for people who are monitored pain management. Her ion and synthetic fentanyl is not prescription medicine. All of the proposed solution are currently in place but real patients are still suffering.
We have the same issue in the mental health world. Drs are refusing to prescribe any benzos for panic attacks. I completely understand being against daily benzo usage as that is dangerous and not as effective as therapy in my opinion but 15 per month Klonopin for oanic is now viewed as drug seeking aswell. Very difficult whats happened to controlled substances. Overprescribed to begin with and then almost completely taken away from everyone leaving the genuine patients suffering...
Addicts and chronic pain sufferers are DIFFERENT. If you can’t handle taking opioids because you’re an addict, do not take them. There is a responsibility for yourself. You must take unless you can’t think and if you can’t think then someone needs to go out your medicine for you. stop punishing people and chronic pain people with severe anxiety. Stop punishing us because some people can’t control themselves.
I'm not addicted to my opioids, and I have been on them for two decades. I take about 1/4 the dosage I began with and am doing okay. But I cannot go off of them, unless they want my pain level to go to ,20! Not everyone is addicted; the actual rate is 12% or so. They are demonizing opioids.
*My doc cut me off cold turkey without prior notice withdrawal was lethal couldn't wish that on my worst enemy, luckily for me i got entangled with a legitimate forum i obtain authentic oxys, hydros, xans, addys & other meds. They're well facilitated & ship discreetly anywhere*
I have cerebral palsy I use opiates on an as-needed basis couple times a week sometimes more than others I use other therapies as well as first-line therapy
I take narcotics just to deal with days like today where the pain is so horrible that I can barely move. I just want to be able to have some much needed relief from the pain. My narcotic pain medication allows me to be an aunt to my nieces and nephews.They deserve for me to be at a place with my pain where I can take care of them and being able to spend time with them.
The CDC Opioid Prescribing Guidelines were adopted as law in over 38 States. DEA is persecuting, prosecuting, and imprisoning physicians who prescribe opioids for pain. This is what our doctors know - they're terrorized by our governments.
That doesn’t work for everyone… trust me. If I could just take a hit or gummy to take all my pain away I’d do it. It doesn’t work for me. It just makes me high and dumb but the pain is still there.
Dont you think we would? Or we have not tried it? it doesn't work, and it makes me feel so incredibly paranoid that i will never use it again (for current issues)
That does help but I can't smoke it, it makes my lungs hurt and it makes me paranoid sometimes. When I take my meds I'm not out of it like Marijuana does.
Most pain management clinics will test for thc and not see you any longer as a patient if you have a positive test Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!
Don't take it out on everybody because some of us don't misuse it. If someone does that has nothing to do with me.
You Got that so right
Amen
Exactly
Ok, here's the problem: asking a recovery center about addicts is fine, but there is a difference between opioid addicts and opioid dependency. Ask chronic pain sufferers if they would give up meds if there was a cure for their condition, you'll hear a choirs of people say "absolutely!. People who are suffering do not get a euphoric feeling from the meds, but a measure of relief. No one that has intractable pain takes a pill and is "pain free." That said, take away their meds and they are now in excruciating pain, have elevated blood pressure and will most likely have a heart attack or stroke. Doctors abandoning their patients happen everyday now, and do not find another provider to continue their care. Doctors are scared and have been arrested and incarcerated due to an overzealous DEA. Pray you don't have to have surgery, because you will be given Tylenol and Motrin, even in cases of open heart surgery, amputations, c-sections etc. This is our reality, and it's only getting worse. No one in the pain community is treated as a patient anymore, but rather a criminal/drug seeker where we have urine tests, pill counts (and that's if you are prescribed meds and/or if the Pharmacists decide to give them to you. They can now override your Doctors prescriptions. Americans are being tortured and nothing is being done about it. When the CDC guidelines came out, and the DEA started arresting Doctors, America set the tone for the rest of the globe. This Government created a vaccuum and that's where the fentanyl crisis was born. They wouldn't treat a dog or cat as badly as they do humans these days. So, if you, the reader is scheduled for surgery, please, please ask how they plan to control your pain post surgery. Get it in writing and hooe they keep their promise. Maybe reporters can cover what the real story is today?
We found another legal junkie. 😂
@@Steve-ev6vx
This is neither funny, nor correct.
Why do you judge and mock disabled people?
Does that sound reasonable to you?
Do you know if the person you left this comment for is in cancer treatment, or has had an amputation, or 3rd degree burns over 40% of their body?
No, you don't.
Just because you struggle with drug use doesn't mean everyone does.
There are tens of millions of pain disabled patients across North America who suffer with complex, degenerative, and terminal illnesses who thrive on safe and effective pain management, who remain on a stable dose for years, even decades. Opioids allow functionality and a quality of life.
Are you advocating that legitimate disabled patients should be medically abandoned, driven to the deadly illicit market in desperation, or forced to turn to suicide?
Is this who you are?
@@DovesBells and we found yet another one defending their drug of choice, yet probably look down your nose at any addict without a prescription and an ailment you deem bad enough.
@@Steve-ev6vx
Excuse me?
Are you accusing me of "looking down" on people who struggle with SUD?
That seems to be more your attitude. It certainly isn't mine.
@@Steve-ev6vx
I advocate for ethical care for ALL people, whatever the medical condition. That includes you and the ones you love.
Nobody deserves to be judged, shamed, mocked, misdiagnosed, stigmatized, discriminated against, or medically abused and abandoned. Unfortunately, we have a failing health care system, and millions can't access compassionate care.
Disabled pain patients are sufferimg and dying, as are people who use illicit substances.
The epidemic is about money. In 2020 there was 90k death from ods and 87 percent of those drugs were street drug not prescriotion meds. Lawyers made billions sueing big pharma. Did you think they are going to sue a drug dealer on the street - no way as no money in it. I am sorry for anyone who lost a loved to an overdose. But when in 2020 many patients were cut by their drs opiods for pain and suicide went up 472 percent.
If the need for pain is real it is NOT addiction.
I'll be honest, I could care less about junkies. It's a choice you make to abuse substances. My issue is the undue suffering, especially our veterans. Give people whatever they need to stop hurting, and stop prescribing garbage like gabapentin that only makes matters worse by making patients gain weight, making any pain worse. This is ridiculous!
They're torturing pain patients
the C D C don`t care !
Yes they are. And it's not just chronic pain. They're using essential oils after 2 hr c-section and ibuprofen script for an amputation. They're sick in the head. These people need to experience pain themselves. We are not addicts - we are pain patients. Those two are worlds apart.
@@commonsense5515 Give it a little more time. I got something for them
They need to deal with people who abuse illegal drugs and leave the pain meds alone. I NEED my pain meds but don't get them because there are no doctors where I live, just nurses and they act like they don't know what they are doing.
A Nurse Practitioner prescribes me pain meds. There are very few family doctors around anymore where I live.
I'd like one person who truly believes that Chronic Pain patients should NOT get the meds they need TO WALK (CRAWL in MY shoes for 1 day, I doubt you would make it thru without screaming!
Why have strict guidelines for people who are monitored pain management. Her ion and synthetic fentanyl is not prescription medicine. All of the proposed solution are currently in place but real patients are still suffering.
I've been dealing with chronic pain for 10 years and the doctors are rude! 😢
We have the same issue in the mental health world. Drs are refusing to prescribe any benzos for panic attacks. I completely understand being against daily benzo usage as that is dangerous and not as effective as therapy in my opinion but 15 per month Klonopin for oanic is now viewed as drug seeking aswell. Very difficult whats happened to controlled substances. Overprescribed to begin with and then almost completely taken away from everyone leaving the genuine patients suffering...
I my SELF have chronic pain. For many many years it heard to live with pain 😢
Addicts and chronic pain sufferers are DIFFERENT. If you can’t handle taking opioids because you’re an addict, do not take them. There is a responsibility for yourself. You must take unless you can’t think and if you can’t think then someone needs to go out your medicine for you. stop punishing people and chronic pain people with severe anxiety. Stop punishing us because some people can’t control themselves.
no one in our goverment will read these comments ! FACT !
No one in our government cares.
Doctors will tell you that it's all in your head 😮
I'm not addicted to my opioids, and I have been on them for two decades. I take about 1/4 the dosage I began with and am doing okay. But I cannot go off of them, unless they want my pain level to go to ,20! Not everyone is addicted; the actual rate is 12% or so. They are demonizing opioids.
*My doc cut me off cold turkey without prior notice withdrawal was lethal couldn't wish that on my worst enemy, luckily for me i got entangled with a legitimate forum i obtain authentic oxys, hydros, xans, addys & other meds. They're well facilitated & ship discreetly anywhere*
*@SYNCERELAMP, that's the handle*
*They're on telegram & Instagram*
I have cerebral palsy I use opiates on an as-needed basis couple times a week sometimes more than others I use other therapies as well as first-line therapy
"Walk a mile in my shoes"
I take narcotics just to deal with days like today where the pain is so horrible that I can barely move. I just want to be able to have some much needed relief from the pain. My narcotic pain medication allows me to be an aunt to my nieces and nephews.They deserve for me to be at a place with my pain where I can take care of them and being able to spend time with them.
Those guidelines was for family practice doctors.why didn't the other doctors know this
The CDC Opioid Prescribing Guidelines were adopted as law in over 38 States.
DEA is persecuting, prosecuting, and imprisoning physicians who prescribe opioids for pain.
This is what our doctors know - they're terrorized by our governments.
I have osteoarthritis in my spine and my knees I’m just thankful I live in the uk as we didn’t have OxyContin here as I would definitely be addicted
Look it up ,less than 1% of chronic pain patients become addicted
Recommend Patcharapat Hua Hin research
No epidemic ever occurred.
I agree with you
Use marijuana
Marijuana doesn't help with pain whatsoever, it actually makes it worse in most chronic pain cases.
That doesn’t work for everyone… trust me. If I could just take a hit or gummy to take all my pain away I’d do it. It doesn’t work for me. It just makes me high and dumb but the pain is still there.
Dont you think we would? Or we have not tried it? it doesn't work, and it makes me feel so incredibly paranoid that i will never use it again (for current issues)
That does help but I can't smoke it, it makes my lungs hurt and it makes me paranoid sometimes. When I take my meds I'm not out of it like Marijuana does.
Most pain management clinics will test for thc and not see you any longer as a patient if you have a positive test
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!