It is actually coming back now with the age of the polyglot. Regardless of what linguists say today, a lot of accomplished polyglots base their method on comprehensible input and it is actually gaining prominence. But there seems to be some kind of conflict between polyglots and linguist on what the best method is today, but most linguists are not polyglots. Most textbooks are garbage today, but sure based on the latest linguistic findings. The idea is sure a bit older, but the principle could be applied, using modern technology, such as apps, online white boards etc. I have just tried a similar thing with an online tool. Whole lessons could be based on this approach. Today you have not only a piece of paper and a pen, but also pictures you can download directly to the board and draw on it, explaining things this way. It could be really fun, teaching this way online.
I keep coming back to this talk. Professor Stephen mentioned that high anxiety filters input and makes it harder to learn a language. It made me imagine that if a positive emotional environment is key for learning languages, it could be just as important for picking up any new skill.
This mans german thing although basic language is simply amazing. Ive taken german for 3 years in school with a little self study and he kicked the ass of every lesson Ive ever had.
This is so neat because it's how my dad learned english. I helped him learn the very basics, then we started watching movies with english/spanish language and subtitles in the other language. we didn't just let it play. we also made notes on how we would translate certain lines and why. Helped my dad learn english and helped me iron out my spanish.
Drilling is necessary, grammar is indispensable. No need for revolution because the human brain has not mutated for a very long time - it still learns the same way... . Check out how Russian was taught in the Soviet Union schools, and you will see - grammar and reading were the key features. In that system by the age of 15 all of us were fluent in one of the most difficult languages in the world. I grew up in that system in the early 80-ties and I can tell you - foreign language learning in Soviet Union was done correctly, even though it was very "traditional". BTW my native language was not slavic, so for me Russian was very difficult in the beginning but through reading we achieved native like levels within 6-7 years.
I'm not sure if you listened to the lecture Stephen Krashen is giving here. It's the COMPREHENSIBLE input theory, not the input theory. If you just go for any input, that's basically the first lesson of his two example lessons. It doesn't do anything. The input has to be comprehensible. Most people don't have a 24/7 resource that provides them with comprehensible input just according to their level so they can improve. So you need to make input comprehensible by yourself, and you can do this by learning the grammar and learning the vocabulary. Once you have learnt enough to understand messages in that language, maybe not in their every detail, but just the overall message, you have made input comprehensible. Take as much of it in as you can, and your brain will naturally fill the gaps.
This video should have much more views. It's 2021 and some people are learning language by studying grammar only.. years and years and they don't feel confident enough to communicate. A sad waste of time.
I wish I would have watched this video before dropping my ASL class. It was my fourth ASL course and I wasn't learning anything. I was way behind my classmates and didn't understand why. Every class meeting was torture because I couldn't understand what the professor or my classmates were trying to communicate to me and my anxiety toward the class and the whole language grew and grew until I would have panic attacks in the middle of class and have to leave. This explanation of language acquisition is brilliant and explains so perfectly why my ASL skills were at a stand-still!
I watched this video for the first time last night. I work at a language school, teaching English, and oddly enough as I was exiting my classroom I started remembering this video. I started thinking in German, or at least remembering the sounds from this video (for example, "cigarette-in", obviously it's something else but that's what it sounds like to me). Well then I see a teacher and a student coming out of another classroom down the hall. I assumed they were speaking Spanish (I live in Spain) but as I listened in, I realized, it was German! And I understood part of it! I understood when the student said "nein"! That's all, but cool! And I remembered that the affirmative response would be "ya". And I remembered the word for head, and for the numbers, etc.! All of this from just a simple 60 second lesson. I really feel like I learned some German in that minute, and my experience this evening served to confirm it! Now imagine if this was the learning method for more than just 60 seconds, but for weeks and years? It could be really effective. Dr. Krashen is on to something. (note: I don't know if it was just a coincidence that I was thinking in German before seeing these two, or if maybe I overheard them down the hall and started thinking in German for that reason, or maybe my mind is playing tricks on me and I didn't start thinking in German until I consciously tuned into them... Either way, cool!) PS - I don't speak any German besides what I heard in this video.
That would explain how I learned 50 Italian word at local Ice-cream shop:) Seriously my best language learning experience was learning the names of Italian ice-cream, it does help I can read the characters and pronunciation is easy for me, but the ice-cream helped:)
through the 10 years that I've been searching for methods to acquire language I think in this video of Prof.Stephen Krashen I found what I'm searching for, Thanks Tarek we could continue our discussion today :)
@@magdysha3ban290 Yes, I believe I have made cumulative progress. Learning a language, like any other skill, requires a lot of practice to master. I'm still making small progress every day.
4:52 I never looked up German before but seeing that video I feel like "Nain" means NO? and ODEN means ears and cirageten is cigarrettes? Forgive my spelling but OH MY GOD that was so effectiveeeeeee!!! I'm blown away!!! I didn't understand everything but I do get the message. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
Why someone did not tell me earlier, this video and information is not exactly new, though it seems still valid. And why so many classes require speaking from the day one (or two) and filling in the blanks instead of focusing on comprehensible input? I had some kids book with beautiful images and names of things and short stories or sentences and it was wonderful learning tool with no translation. Yet almost every adult book is dry vocabulary and fill in the blank exercise which is far from ideal start of language learning.
Exactly, I disagree completely with forcing beginners to speak, even if they are adults. I learnt 3 foreign languages being adult and I discovered that silent period was very important for me.
in brief: In this video presentation, the speaker discusses the most important issue in language education: how we acquire language. The speaker argues that we all acquire language the same way, through comprehensible input. This means that we learn a language when we understand messages from others, regardless of individual variations in learning styles. The speaker provides two language lessons in German to illustrate the difference between incomprehensible input and comprehensible input. The first lesson, with no context or visual cues, is incomprehensible and ineffective. The second lesson includes context, visual cues, and simplified language, which makes it more understandable and effective. According to the speaker, we acquire language only when we understand messages, not when we practice talking. This is demonstrated through a story about a Japanese girl named Itomi, who acquired English through a silent period of listening and understanding, eventually starting to speak after five months. The speaker introduces the effective filter hypothesis, which argues that motivation, self-esteem, and anxiety are factors that relate to success in language acquisition. When a student has low motivation, low self-esteem, or high anxiety, it creates a block (or "filter") that prevents comprehensible input from reaching the language acquisition device in the brain. In summary, the speaker emphasizes the importance of comprehensible input in language acquisition and suggests that language education should focus on providing understandable messages and creating a low-anxiety environment for students to learn effectively.
I'm just wondering what's the implications for foreign language teaching "concerning comprehensible input hypothesis" ... Can someone respond me please!! ..
Stuck trying to get there, if there was a grading system of shows/easy mediums of 1000 common words using the double foreign spoken & subtitles, it's easy language learning.
@@LiquidFlowerNot in my experience at all. It is fantastic for motivation and word acquisition, but *terrible* for comprehension and explanation. Most of Duolingo relies on memorisation, and VERY little written explanation exists.
언어습득과 소화작용 .자연스럽게 음식을소화 시키듯 언어습득 -이해가능한 메시지를 뇌에 입력(comprehensible message)을독서를 통해 진행 --언어 습득비결:상대방의 말과 글을 이해 함으롱써 가능 -talking is not practicing * 경험담 뉴욕체류시 이웃집 일본 4세어린이와의 대화. 몇달간 간단한 영어로 대화시도 불발 그러나 약6개월뒤 이웃 어린이왼 어울린후 자연스레 대화 -결론: 말과 글의 정확한 이해가 중요 -흥미 있는 소재선택
So much for the pimsluer method then. An hour in your car? All the other ones I have seen advertised a out the place have been debunked too. Most of duo got knocked it in this aswell.
Considering how much this guy's theory is talked about by polyglots with big channels on RUclips it's amazing this video only has 30K views. I mean there are multiple videos breaking down this lecture that have thousands of more views, or in the case of this one, ruclips.net/video/J_EQDtpYSNM/видео.html , a million more views
I disagree with Stephen saying it won't help to speak your target language out loud by yourself. Sure it won't make you conversational but I think it helps with pronunciation and fluidity of whatever word / phrase you're saying.
It's good. Don't become a naggy ahh whiģga and be like, "Aw man, so boring". This video tells you how to spawn stuff in your head, that you did in your diapers
With Google's set up they personalize your search results based on the data they've extracted out of your account, best to double check your sources as well.
Don't judge a book by its cover; the video might seem old but its content is very interesting.
The content is freaking GOLD, man! Hell yeah!
the first i thought surely this is so boring, 5' later, omg
@@tiozao8620 he is Brilliant
I get the message but if you think about it, the saying really doesn't make a lot of sense
It is actually coming back now with the age of the polyglot. Regardless of what linguists say today, a lot of accomplished polyglots base their method on comprehensible input and it is actually gaining prominence. But there seems to be some kind of conflict between polyglots and linguist on what the best method is today, but most linguists are not polyglots. Most textbooks are garbage today, but sure based on the latest linguistic findings.
The idea is sure a bit older, but the principle could be applied, using modern technology, such as apps, online white boards etc. I have just tried a similar thing with an online tool. Whole lessons could be based on this approach. Today you have not only a piece of paper and a pen, but also pictures you can download directly to the board and draw on it, explaining things this way. It could be really fun, teaching this way online.
This video is so underrated.
yeah
Makes great common sense.
Are we all gonna ignore the fact that he drew a perfect circle?
That's exactly what I was about to say
The man is a true genius on multiple levels.
is good ya?
Almost
@@charleh3493 uP
I come back to this video every now and again. It's just so to the point.
Dr. Krashen... you teaching us German on the spot... it's like magic! ✨👌
I keep coming back to this talk. Professor Stephen mentioned that high anxiety filters input and makes it harder to learn a language. It made me imagine that if a positive emotional environment is key for learning languages, it could be just as important for picking up any new skill.
This mans german thing although basic language is simply amazing. Ive taken german for 3 years in school with a little self study and he kicked the ass of every lesson Ive ever had.
Watching this as any professional Language Learner should!
This is so neat because it's how my dad learned english. I helped him learn the very basics, then we started watching movies with english/spanish language and subtitles in the other language. we didn't just let it play. we also made notes on how we would translate certain lines and why. Helped my dad learn english and helped me iron out my spanish.
by far one of the most educational videos I have ever watched
It's been about 40 years and people are still learning grammar and drilling... Do we need a linguistic revolution or I am too Russian here? ))
I'm glad I found your channel through this comment! I'm not learning Russian yet but I intend to do so in the future, and this is very useful!
Same here! I also found your channel through this comment. Looks really good.
Drilling is necessary, grammar is indispensable. No need for revolution because the human brain has not mutated for a very long time - it still learns the same way... . Check out how Russian was taught in the Soviet Union schools, and you will see - grammar and reading were the key features. In that system by the age of 15 all of us were fluent in one of the most difficult languages in the world. I grew up in that system in the early 80-ties and I can tell you - foreign language learning in Soviet Union was done correctly, even though it was very "traditional". BTW my native language was not slavic, so for me Russian was very difficult in the beginning but through reading we achieved native like levels within 6-7 years.
cool to find you here
I'm not sure if you listened to the lecture Stephen Krashen is giving here. It's the COMPREHENSIBLE input theory, not the input theory. If you just go for any input, that's basically the first lesson of his two example lessons. It doesn't do anything. The input has to be comprehensible. Most people don't have a 24/7 resource that provides them with comprehensible input just according to their level so they can improve. So you need to make input comprehensible by yourself, and you can do this by learning the grammar and learning the vocabulary.
Once you have learnt enough to understand messages in that language, maybe not in their every detail, but just the overall message, you have made input comprehensible. Take as much of it in as you can, and your brain will naturally fill the gaps.
This video should have much more views. It's 2021 and some people are learning language by studying grammar only.. years and years and they don't feel confident enough to communicate. A sad waste of time.
True stuff
I wish I would have watched this video before dropping my ASL class. It was my fourth ASL course and I wasn't learning anything. I was way behind my classmates and didn't understand why. Every class meeting was torture because I couldn't understand what the professor or my classmates were trying to communicate to me and my anxiety toward the class and the whole language grew and grew until I would have panic attacks in the middle of class and have to leave. This explanation of language acquisition is brilliant and explains so perfectly why my ASL skills were at a stand-still!
Histrionic
@@yahtzeeeuook3193 lol i had to google that word
Hey, I know this reply is super late, but I hope you were able to push through and make progress!
I watched this video for the first time last night. I work at a language school, teaching English, and oddly enough as I was exiting my classroom I started remembering this video. I started thinking in German, or at least remembering the sounds from this video (for example, "cigarette-in", obviously it's something else but that's what it sounds like to me). Well then I see a teacher and a student coming out of another classroom down the hall. I assumed they were speaking Spanish (I live in Spain) but as I listened in, I realized, it was German!
And I understood part of it! I understood when the student said "nein"! That's all, but cool! And I remembered that the affirmative response would be "ya". And I remembered the word for head, and for the numbers, etc.! All of this from just a simple 60 second lesson. I really feel like I learned some German in that minute, and my experience this evening served to confirm it! Now imagine if this was the learning method for more than just 60 seconds, but for weeks and years? It could be really effective. Dr. Krashen is on to something.
(note: I don't know if it was just a coincidence that I was thinking in German before seeing these two, or if maybe I overheard them down the hall and started thinking in German for that reason, or maybe my mind is playing tricks on me and I didn't start thinking in German until I consciously tuned into them... Either way, cool!)
PS - I don't speak any German besides what I heard in this video.
Jackass you were not thinking in German
We acuqire language in one way and only one way: when we get comprehensible input in a low anxiety enviroment.
That would explain how I learned 50 Italian word at local Ice-cream shop:) Seriously my best language learning experience was learning the names of Italian ice-cream, it does help I can read the characters and pronunciation is easy for me, but the ice-cream helped:)
@anglekan why? U need to be more specific with details! And example! 😬
@anglekan why? U need to be more specific with details! And example! 😬
The classic that put comprehensible input on the map as a recognized method!
through the 10 years that I've been searching for methods to acquire language I think in this video of Prof.Stephen Krashen I found what I'm searching for, Thanks Tarek we could continue our discussion today :)
Merhaba Amr .It's a small world. :)
In 6 years do you find that you was searching about?
Do you find the massive progress?
@@magdysha3ban290 Yes, I believe I have made cumulative progress. Learning a language, like any other skill, requires a lot of practice to master. I'm still making small progress every day.
@@amrhalabi2753what was your plan is reading stories consider comprehensible input
Brilliant explanation on language learning! The gentleman is a Genius!
best speech ever, about language learning!!!
4:52 I never looked up German before but seeing that video I feel like "Nain" means NO? and ODEN means ears and cirageten is cigarrettes?
Forgive my spelling but OH MY GOD that was so effectiveeeeeee!!! I'm blown away!!! I didn't understand everything but I do get the message. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
ears actually means ears
Thank you for uploading this
Generally these old lecture are the real deal to understand any topic so fast and so good
Why someone did not tell me earlier, this video and information is not exactly new, though it seems still valid. And why so many classes require speaking from the day one (or two) and filling in the blanks instead of focusing on comprehensible input? I had some kids book with beautiful images and names of things and short stories or sentences and it was wonderful learning tool with no translation. Yet almost every adult book is dry vocabulary and fill in the blank exercise which is far from ideal start of language learning.
Exactly, I disagree completely with forcing beginners to speak, even if they are adults. I learnt 3 foreign languages being adult and I discovered that silent period was very important for me.
Thanks for this! It's the perfect way to show my trainee why the text he chose for a beginner lesson is no appropriate.
Brilliant idea and is soooooo helpful to me. He is also a good professor, by the way.
in brief:
In this video presentation, the speaker discusses the most important issue in language education: how we acquire language. The speaker argues that we all acquire language the same way, through comprehensible input. This means that we learn a language when we understand messages from others, regardless of individual variations in learning styles.
The speaker provides two language lessons in German to illustrate the difference between incomprehensible input and comprehensible input. The first lesson, with no context or visual cues, is incomprehensible and ineffective. The second lesson includes context, visual cues, and simplified language, which makes it more understandable and effective.
According to the speaker, we acquire language only when we understand messages, not when we practice talking. This is demonstrated through a story about a Japanese girl named Itomi, who acquired English through a silent period of listening and understanding, eventually starting to speak after five months.
The speaker introduces the effective filter hypothesis, which argues that motivation, self-esteem, and anxiety are factors that relate to success in language acquisition. When a student has low motivation, low self-esteem, or high anxiety, it creates a block (or "filter") that prevents comprehensible input from reaching the language acquisition device in the brain.
In summary, the speaker emphasizes the importance of comprehensible input in language acquisition and suggests that language education should focus on providing understandable messages and creating a low-anxiety environment for students to learn effectively.
Is this a bot?
@@cjboyo no , but it's chatGPT
@@e-genieclimatique Gross. Why?
hello, newcomers! this is probably Gemini :)
@@AlexeiMotoRin GPT4 the boss
5:55 the moment of truth
What I got from this:
1. Choose a language you wanna learn
2. Become child
3. ???
4. Profit
3. Sell underpants
well, no, the key is comprehensible input, being a child has nothing to do with that (except when you're learning a language that your parents speak)
You don’t sound too smart
@@Danpungip You don't sound like you know what a joke is
thanks a lot Tarek. For the video and the document.
Thanks so musc Ms Stephen.
2024. 7 years late in finding this piece of gold.
hmm interesting to learn
thanks for your sharing mister Krashen :)
i know it old
Old but Gold ;)
What if i listen to something but its not comprehensible at all? I just listen carefully without understanding Anything, is it effective?
Thanks a lot ! Great stuff
Excellent! It is true.
Thanks for share it.
The man had some good jokes!!!
practicing is the key to communicating
I'm just wondering what's the implications for foreign language teaching "concerning comprehensible input hypothesis" ...
Can someone respond me please!! ..
Está información vale millones :D
Definitivamente.
If there was a whole progressive program with this method, that'd be one of the best
Stuck trying to get there, if there was a grading system of shows/easy mediums of 1000 common words using the double foreign spoken & subtitles, it's easy language learning.
Duolingo is pretty good at it
@@LiquidFlowerNot in my experience at all. It is fantastic for motivation and word acquisition, but *terrible* for comprehension and explanation. Most of Duolingo relies on memorisation, and VERY little written explanation exists.
Does anybody know when this was broadcast, or any other publication info? I'm trying to cite it for a paper, haha.
si... digan de una buena vez jajaj
me too, did u ever find out?
@@sunaa_j still waiting 😅
Krashen, S. 1981. Second Language Acquisition and Second
Language Learning. New York: Prentice Hall
언어습득과 소화작용
.자연스럽게 음식을소화 시키듯 언어습득
-이해가능한 메시지를 뇌에 입력(comprehensible message)을독서를 통해 진행
--언어 습득비결:상대방의 말과 글을 이해 함으롱써 가능
-talking is not practicing
* 경험담
뉴욕체류시 이웃집 일본 4세어린이와의 대화.
몇달간 간단한 영어로 대화시도
불발
그러나 약6개월뒤 이웃 어린이왼 어울린후 자연스레 대화
-결론: 말과 글의 정확한 이해가 중요
-흥미 있는 소재선택
i can heard it on my both ears
That Gold !
3:19 to 4:31
You will understand everything even if it's in German.
So much for the pimsluer method then. An hour in your car? All the other ones I have seen advertised a out the place have been debunked too. Most of duo got knocked it in this aswell.
fascinating
4:52
Thank you!
I study English language and literature and my honework is to wa5ch it and two other videos
This is just the truth
Wonderful 🎉
Wowo😊😅
amazing !
The fact i watch this when my mother tongue is actually spanish it is more better
Considering how much this guy's theory is talked about by polyglots with big channels on RUclips it's amazing this video only has 30K views. I mean there are multiple videos breaking down this lecture that have thousands of more views, or in the case of this one, ruclips.net/video/J_EQDtpYSNM/видео.html , a million more views
how can this be helpful to increase IELTS score?
this unique video isnt for IELTS
Anyone else here after seeing Julian’s TikTok???
Your brian is rotting with that app. Enjoy the Chinese malware I guess.
You came from that tiktok video, right? 😂
1:58 lol
@@wayian1994 what he see
I'm curious, if it's really useful, why hasn't it spread around the world
Because people are stupid and refuse to belive you can learn without cramming tons of info in your head by tests and studying
Because you can make a lot of money by teaching the old way
Things like uh...leave me alone.
Output is equally important
Second Language will emerge.
He must have met Andy Kaufman.
I disagree with Stephen saying it won't help to speak your target language out loud by yourself. Sure it won't make you conversational but I think it helps with pronunciation and fluidity of whatever word / phrase you're saying.
For this, it would be better to listen to an audiobook by a native speaker.
He didn’t explain it which was annoying
Noone laughed at his sex joke...I mean pointed it out 😉😂
They were too focused on the subject and didn't see that "input" coming
what was the sex movie he watched
God came down and said
Too bad that I am german...
This video was played before I was born and no amount of progress has been made by the diploma mill industry.
I didn't know I could understand german)
How did no one laugh at 1:58
Is it me or does he have more hair now?
please, i want speaking english will, so i want someone to chat with me pleaseee?!
for me snapchat : ahmed.zamani
just watch more youtube
Wow
He is hilarious.
naaa dis is STEREO
Dislike cus school's making me watch
It’s good that your teacher is making you watch this
It's good. Don't become a naggy ahh whiģga and be like, "Aw man, so boring". This video tells you how to spawn stuff in your head, that you did in your diapers
yep, thank you for bringing up your ignorance of and your research into sex. Very funny.
But this man doesn't speak languages just his native language.I made searsh about him on google......
With Google's set up they personalize your search results based on the data they've extracted out of your account, best to double check your sources as well.
Huh? He spoke German in this clip as well.
I just did a Google search, and it says that he speaks "English, Hebrew, German, French, Spanish and Mandarin with varying levels of ability".