I am amazed to listen to your knowledge. All the four Imams of Ahlus Sunnah : Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafii and Imam Ahmed Bin Hunbal are the beacons of the faith.
+kazakhseven Official Azhar Shekhs such as the ones who supported SISI murder the innocent are deviant people whose testimony is worth nothing. As for the majority of the teachers and students of Al Azhar they refer to what you call 'Wahabi' as Hanbali madhhab. The Saudis follow the Hanbali Madhab as Sayidina Abdulqadir Al Jilani. They are targeted with the "Wahabi" label because they oppose innovations in religion with out compromise. As for the "Salafi" they do not form one monolithic group, but different groups who claim to follow the teachings of the Salaf As-Salih (the righteous predecessors)”-- the first three generations of Muslims-- based on the Hadith: The best people are my generation (qarnī), then those who follow them, then those who follow them." As for who truly follow the Salaf Al-Salih, each group, including the non-Salafis claim as the one on the true path -- and Allah subhanehu wa tala'aaa knows best.
+mohd azli really? please. we (muslims and sh hamza himself) will never agreed to use that word. we are told to use nice words and not bad one. let just pray for ourselves and others for hidayah and forgiveness from ALLAH. please..
I tell you little more about those so called "sheikh" (one of the haram fruits of the same trees which they call "al-azhar") Earning his PhD in 2013 from Al-Azhar University in Egypt, Professor (Egyptian cleric or Sheikh) Rashid Mustafa made a statement claiming that drinking alcohol is not haram (forbidden under Islam), and “those who say that it is haraam lie to God.” they should start reconsidering their religion. All I did was repeal the old interpretation of sharia and come up with a new one that helps establish coexistence and peace with other religions. Islam did not impose the distortion of the Bible or the Torah. A Muslim person should believe in these holy books as well. Some religious authorities interpreted few verses in a wrong way and considered that Muslim people should only believe in the Quran. What proves the failures of this claim is that when the Prophet was given the Holy Book (referring to the Torah), he kissed it, confirming that there is nothing that should be “higher.” My fatwas are based on textual evidence and verses. For example, the most recent verse related to pork consumption in the Quran denounces all previous ones that forbid it. It is the same for alcohol: the Quran forbids drunkenness because it is harmful. One should not pray after drinking alcohol as well, but this does not totally forbid the consumption of alcohol, especially since alcohol, in my opinion, has certain benefits.
This is so beautiful. The salafi movement certainly had it's khair, let's not deny that, they put the importance of dalil from quran and sunnah back on the table and warned against ta'assub that had been spreading. Unfortunately, they've landed where they warned us from (ta'assub of the scholars). In the mean time, they've awoken the ummah. Now it's time for us to regain our belief, to improve our islam with the four fiqh madhahib. To improve our iman with the four aqidah madhahib. And to improve our ihsan with the rightly guided tasawwuf (not the deviant variant, but the original, pure tasawwuf of al-Hasan al-Basri for example)! This deen will regain it's strength and glory in the world, as everywhere in the world muslils awaken after the long winter sleep we've had. Allahu akbar!
They've done no such thing. We are talking about their Islam Vs the true Islam. The prophet said their namaz Qur'an and actions would put yours to shame but they'll be misguided.
No Habibi Allah swt gave this Deen once a glory and it’s only once now wait for Imam Mehdi and Fitans Muslim Ummah will never rule you the world again. Allaho Aalim.
Salam to all sunni classical Islam al ash'ari al maturidi tahawiy and to all spiritual practitioner like naqshbandi qadiri chishti shadili rifa'iy and to Yemen
My salutions to the gathering of naqshbandi mehfil the enlightened souls may almighty Allah SWT bless us all for the sake of His Beloved Sal Lall laa hu alai hi wah Sallam ameen we are Qadri followers of India we are one ummaa
@@dayan47 what you think auliya Allah are not followers of Holy prophet sas they're the original ones who spread the reality of spiritual science gifted to them Almighty through His Beloved SAS"'these friends of Almighty are mentioned in Quran.
To the people bashing sufis, you should first read about tasawwuf and the different sects in sufism before you repeat what you heard from other illiterate people.
@@MohammedHijabClips Sufis are those who follow the likes of Junaid Baghdadi. The meaning of Tasawwuf for these people is to act according to Quran and Sunnah with your mind,body and soul. These are the only people who should be referred to as Sufis. The ones who dance or do weird activities are fake sufis and we shouldn’t even call them sufis.
the hadith is about Imam Mahdi. NOT naqshabandi or maturidi follwers. the blessed army that will conquer constantinople is the army of Imam Mahdi during the end of times. Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924 Chapter: The Conquest Of Constantinople, The Emergence Of The Dajjal And The Descent Of 'Eisa bin Mariam: "An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract the romans). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople....."
They are both intertwined. It's Haram to lie with the heart hence it is connected to Shari3ah but to purify such diseases and make practice easy we use Tasawwuf.
im sick of youtube scholars. Hamza yusuf has studied enough to make his opinion. Have any of you? If people dont agree then stop watching. Dont comment filth in order to prove him wrong. if you feel he really needs to be corrected, contact him!
Brothers and Sisters, let anyone who says the shahadah and believes in the One Allah, Mohammad (SAW) as Allah's last messenger and His slave and believes in the life hereafter (Akhira) live in peace even though you may disagree with them on 1000 matters. Let Allah be their judge of what they hold in their breasts and what they commit with their tongues and hands. Hold firmly the rope of Allah and create not divisions among yourself. The times are very hard on all Muslims, so let their be acceptance, tolerance and unity among the ummah. All of the sects are like branches and offshoots of the same tree. Celebrate the variation because that is how Allah has kept this deen and Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) alive and vibrant.
Hanafi fiqh is the largest number of follower among sunni muslim majority of follwer in the countries of ottaman empire mughal empire central asia india pak and bangladesh turkey.
So wish he could have a platform in Huda , channel & a few other in which they are only saying their's is only the right way Subhanallah don't they not fear ALLAH AWJ
Abdullah bin Busr reports that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "Between the Malhama (the final War or Battle) and the conquest of the City ( i.e. Constantinople), there will be six years, and the Dajjal (Anti-Christ) shall appear in the seventh year." (Sahih Muslim, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah) . However, Mu'az ibn Jabal narrated this Hadith by stating that these events will occur within 7 months, not years. He narrated that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "Al-Malhama Al-Kubra (Big Battle), conquest of Constantinople, and the coming of Dajjal (Anti-Christ) will be (occur) within (a period of) seven months." (Abu Dawud and Ibn Maja)
hey munafeeg Khaled najis! ur wife is jariyah for Muslim men since u r not mumin! Hz. Fateh is the person by Ijma! if you reject Ijma as evidence u r kafir! there`s written City, how do u know this isabout Constantinople?
Beloved prophet says that my Ummah will get divided in 73 sects and among them only 1 sect will remain on the right path from my time untill the day of judgement so my brother's of ahle sunnah just asked these wahabis,salafis to prove their existence from the time of Rasulullah sallallahu Alaihi wasallim case will be closed
@@Manzar534 Inshort you can't build up your arguments from any tradition of the Prophet A.S neither do you deduct your logic from.Ayyaht of quran so stop spewing bullshit and follow what quran asks you to do
Sister thats the problem with salafi they look at the hadith and take it face value but salafi brothers dnt have alot of fiqh knowledge this they don't know to Apply science of hadith and how to use it in specific instances for example if you take the 4 imams they have extensive knowledge of fiqh and hadith plz sister look in to this don't knock it I know alot of salafi brothers did not know basic fiqh just know hadith and most dnt even know tajweed and makarij
Sister thats the problem with salafi they look at the hadith and take it face value but salafi brothers dnt have alot of fiqh knowledge this they don't know to Apply science of hadith and how to use it in specific instances for example if you take the 4 imams they have extensive knowledge of fiqh and hadith plz sister look in to this don't knock it I know alot of salafi brothers did not know basic fiqh just know hadith and most dnt even know tajweed and makarij
And you need to know Arabic so well to be NOT confused, yet scholars who know so much are also really not reaching the very ordinary person. They should really talk to each other about Muslim global concerns and especially the very ordinary people who want Islam to help them. Most scholars now are purely academic. Okay, it might be the preacher's job to talk to ordinary people or to teach basics, but the preacher's take their Q from the scholars and bring these things , even more confused on the ground. The result. Nobody knows any longer what Islam is, and our youth are losing interest.
Sheikh Hamza mentions a great authentic hadeeth about a great leader, but nonetheless he failed to mention that there is an ikhtilaf regarding this issue, that the Ulema disagree whether the hadeeth strictly talks about Sultan Fatih.
it is bizarre to use the hadith about the conquest, in order to allege that the Prophet peace be upon him praised naqashabani or maturidi! such claims are false. also the hadith has to be looked at by using other related hadith. it seems that the conquest is in refernce to the latter days. Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924 Chapter: The Conquest Of Constantinople, The Emergence Of The Dajjal And The Descent Of 'Eisa bin Mariam: "An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract the romans). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople......"
How can there be hanafi-maturidi-naqshbandi in the time of the Prophet salla Allahu alayhi wasallam ? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ didn't they all start emering after the sahabah years??
We sunnah blv that 4 mazhab on huq as well as ullma tasauf but the problem is in todays new innovated type of tasuf which is manipulated by bidah and shirk Actually the zahir is sharyat and batin is tasuf. But without the sharyat tasuf is no where. And our brother salafi may Allah guide them too are very strict and in some places extreme their for conflicts occurs between sunnah . So plzz. Dont go in the name on tasuf to ahl bidah and in the name of salafis to ahl khwarij. Alhamdulillah we all are ahl sunnah wal jammah. I m proud hanafi and naqshbandi. May allah bless us and protect from both sides extream . And make us from. خير أمور أوسط
True sister...The real Suni Sufism had no inventions but todays ignorants have added their culture into religions and has damaged our sect Then wahabis attack our school nd sect ...we have to show and prove them we are not graveworshipper we follow Quran o Sunnah Tasawuf is way to Allah and we should follow actual auliya not todays imposter pirs Then no one will attack us or deviate
@@blacksheep6174 correct as i said we are stucked between 2 extremes Alhamdulillah we believe in tasuf but without the new inventions and stick to tauheed va sunnah
@Comrade Legion 😂 Wahab is name of Allah swt but Wahabiii is a secttt that follows M bin Wahab of Najd go take history classes . Wahabis also claim to be salafis . I know Salaf are the fist generations
Ottomans patronized Hanafi mazhab and did nothing to preach the pristine teachings of Islam TILL OCTOBER 1924 And even the second most important pillar of Islaam,Salaah, was not spared the effects of Madh-hab fanaticism. The followers of the various Madh-habs began to refuse to pray behindthe Imaams from other Madh-habs. This resulted in the building of separate prayer niches in the masjid communities where more than one Madh-hab existed. Masjids of this type can still be seen in places like Syria, where Sunni Muslims follow either the Hanafee or Shaafi’ee Madh-hab. Even the most holy masjid, al-Masjid al- Haraam of Makkah, which represents the unity of Muslims and thereligion of Islaam, was affected. Separate prayer niches were set up around the Ka’bah: one for an Imaam from each of the schools. And when the time for Salaah came, an Imaam from one of the Madhhabs would lead a congregation of followers from his Madh-hab in prayer; then another Imaam from one of the other Madh-habs would lead his congregation of followers and so on. It is interesting to note that separate places of prayer for each of the Madh-habs remained around the Ka’bah until the first quarter of the twentieth century when ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn Sa’oud and his army conquered Makkah (October of 1924) and united all worshippers behind a single Imaam regardless of his or their Madh-habs.
@@LiberalDictate You donkey, the four imams themselves condemned the rawafid of their times and believed that certain beliefs if held make you out of the fold of the Islam. I don't need Abdul Wahhab to know that the Shi'a are a sect of baatil.
jahil man is mocking those who call the innovation as innovation and is saying that prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wassalam praised hanfi mazhab, maturidi aqeedah and naqshbandi tareeqa. what a joke and how these people consider these statements of ignorance and wisdom and knowledge?
I agree. the Prophet peace be upon him did not praise maturidi or naqshabandi. in fact the Prophet peace be upon him warned us of following innovations. maturidi uses greek philosophy for their theology. naqshabandi has many bida'. anyways the hadith about constantinople could refer to the end of times as explained in Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924 Chapter: The Conquest Of Constantinople, The Emergence Of The Dajjal And The Descent Of 'Eisa bin Mariam: "An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract the romans). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople....." so the blessed army is the army of Imam Mahdi. and the best leader is Imam mahdi. hence the leader mentioned in the hadith is not the ottoman leader but rather from the projeny of the prophet (sallahllahu alihi wasallam) i.e. Imam Mahdi
This talk is very obviously pandering to the audience. No mention of the backbone of Ottoman power, the Janissary Corps and its adherence to the terribly deviant Bektashi Order (for instance), or the secularist dog Kemal Ataturk. It's disheartening to see scholars I deeply respect speak so politically. I've been to Turkey, and the abundance of secularism and superstition and lack of religious expression is actually a bit saddening.
standingunder Yeah, didnt rasulAllah SallAllahu aleihi wa salam also praise/honor Kuffar? It makes more sense if he honored them as persons(for their actions) and not their belief.
+Abd Al-Karim Can you give me an example of him praising a non-Muslim. I sincerely wanna know. Might expand my knowledge a little. But besides that,a non-Muslim might be someone who is yet to be Muslim or died in an era when the Message could not reach him/her. But would the Prophet Sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam praise one who has entered the Deen and corrupted it? Maybe that's the point that Shaykh Hamza was conveying.
I don't think he means the general umma but the scholarly consensus of Turkey. Also he means sectarianism within the faith not secularism that's entirely different. That's something we all suffer from unfortunately.
It was miracle that there were four imams at the same time in masjid al haram? Are you really going to present this as a good thing? They couldn't agree to pay behind one imam and that's a good thing? At what cost would you try to defend your sects? Fear Allah and limit your religious identity to muslim.
Islam is simple and clear if one wants to follow the truth. The truth is the Book of Allah and the Saheeh Ahadeeth to be followed as understood by the Sahabah and all the Ulamah who followed them strictly up to our time. As for Madhab or opinion of a Shaykh Imam then if in an issue the proof is provided from the Quran and Sunnah then we accept and if not, then we take the Imam Madhab that has the proof. If no proof then we follow that which is closest to the truth. Anyone that call to other than the Aqeedah and Manhajus Salaf as Salih is a deviant. Such as the sect; Shia, Soofi, Khawarij, Asharis, Marturidis, Brelwis, Naqshabandis etc etc.
Hold on a second. All four madhabs are upon the Qu'ran and Sunnah to say they're not is haram as these schools were founded by the greatest thinkers of fiq in the time of salaf al-salih so if you follow one of the four schools of jurisprudence then you are upon the Qu'ran and Sunnah. If you step outside the four schools which were agreed concencus of the ulama in the time of salaf al-salih than you are outside of ahlu sunnah. I agree Shia is a sect and who are the khawarij of today? All the terrorist groups that claim Islam and what group of thinking they follow? That's right Salafism. As for Ashari and Maturdi, they're not considered sects but as theological schools as the same with Athari creed which Hanbali school follow. All three theological schools agree on most things but have minor differences in secondary matters. The salafi claim to follow the Athari aqeeda but have been rejected by traditional Hanbalis who do not associate with themselves with salafism and claimed Salafi creed is based on Ibn Taymiyyah who was heavily influenced and inspired by anthropologist scholars such as Ibn Karram (founder of Karramiyyah) and Muqatil ibn Sulayman. These two were refuted by great scholars of the salaf. They belong to a group known as the Mushabbihah and yes, they still exist today but hide behind the term "Salafi" when there is nothing salaf about them as they reject many teachings of salaf al-salih. I could mention a list for them if you want. One of them being tasawwuf which was practised by all Imams of salaf al-salih. Unfurtently, Salafis are ignorant to understand a sufi is not a club you can join. You have to become an Awliyah and if you do not strictly follow tasawwuf, it is haram to call yourself a sufi. As for Naqshabandis, it is a Sufi school order. I bet you didn't know Sultan Mehmed II, the conquerer of constantinople was prophesised by prophet Muhammed (PBUH). In hadith, he is seen as someone being in the right path yet he followed the Hanafi madhab, Maturdi creed and Naqshabandi Sufi school of order. This alone by the words of the prophet refutes Salafis.
the paul bin saba the lawrence calls the four mehrabs in kaba as miracle and praises that people used to pray in each others mihrab if they miss the prayer. which means paul bin saba the lawrence of america wants once again muslims build the four mehrabs to enjoy and celeberate the diversity in adversity and adversity in diverstiy.
The Hanafi Books When were they written? I. Qudoory 5th Century AH II. Hidayah 6th Century AH III. Qaadiy Khan 6th Century AH IV. Fatawa Saraajiyah 7th Century AH V. Kanz 8th Century AH VI. Nahayah, Sharh Waqayah, Anayah 8th Century AH VII. Tahtawi 8th Century AH VIII. Jami ur Ramooz 8th Century AH IX. Fath ul Qadeer 9th Century AH X. Bazaziyyah, Khalaash, Kaydooriy, Hilyah 9th Century AH XI. Bahr ur Raqaiq, 10th Century AH XII. Tanwir ul Absaar, Zahiratul Uqbaa 11th Century AH XIII. Fatawa Khariyyah, Shaamiy, Durr ul Mukhtaar 12th Century AH XIV. Fatawa Alamgheeriy compiled by five hundred Hanafi scholars 12th Century AH XV. Maraaqiy ul Fallah, Malaa Budd, Umda Radiyah 13th Century AH Not one of these books was authored by Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah), the Imam that you claim to follow. These books ascribe statements and fatawa to Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah) usually without chains of narrators (isnad) that reach him. Whose madhab are you following? There are thousands of other books like these, each book contradicting many others, several different fatawa for the same question, where is the so-called ‘solidified madhab based upon centuries of enhancements’
sanaulla sharief - you could say the same thing about those Mutawwatir-less Hadiths and 'their attributing them' to the Prophet SAAWS !! please leave such matters, it is very clear that you don't have a balanced conscience.
it means this is PUKKA: Hanafi Books When were they written? I. Qudoory 5th Century AH II. Hidayah 6th Century AH III. Qaadiy Khan 6th Century AH IV. Fatawa Saraajiyah 7th Century AH V. Kanz 8th Century AH VI. Nahayah, Sharh Waqayah, Anayah 8th Century AH VII. Tahtawi 8th Century AH VIII. Jami ur Ramooz 8th Century AH IX. Fath ul Qadeer 9th Century AH X. Bazaziyyah, Khalaash, Kaydooriy, Hilyah 9th Century AH XI. Bahr ur Raqaiq, 10th Century AH XII. Tanwir ul Absaar, Zahiratul Uqbaa 11th Century AH XIII. Fatawa Khariyyah, Shaamiy, Durr ul Mukhtaar 12th Century AH XIV. Fatawa Alamgheeriy compiled by five hundred Hanafi scholars 12th Century AH XV. Maraaqiy ul Fallah, Malaa Budd, Umda Radiyah 13th Century AH
I challenge anyone to SHOW PROOF that Amir Muhammad al Fatih was naqshbandi or maturidi or called himself these titles ..... Remember the beloved Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said what means in the end times we will see much differences of opinion, and his answer on what we should do if we find ourselves living in those times was HOLD fast to the Quran and the sunnah. He didnt say blindly follow scholars......think on that.Let me tell all my friends here and everything I'm saying we all can agree. #1 There is a huge difference between those scholars centuries ago who were practicing tazkiya and the modern day sufis of today . The ottoman empire eventually fell into mass innovations. #2 we can all agree scholar and layman, as sidi Ahmed zarruq said if you find something being practiced that's against the sharia we throw it against the wall or we get rid of it .. #3 no practice and no belief coming from anyone ,doesn't matter how big a scholar they are, if its inspiration or handed down from one scholar to the next ....NO beliefs ,actions, words or statements can contradict the sharia. Period
İstanbul conqurer 2 times , ones done with sword 600 years ago and ones is coming inshaAllah with no swords only with people saying Lailahe illAllah Muhammed Resulullah , Allahu Ekber
@@blacksheep6174 idiot. Innovation in a worldy affair does not equate to innovation in terms of the methodology of worship (ibaadah). Go learn before speaking.
the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did NOT praise maturidi or naqshbandi! this is a complete misunderstanding of the hadith. the hadith simply states that the muslim army and their leader who conquer constantinople are blessed. no where does it say anything about their particular school of creed.
Parvez Khan the fact that there were described by Nabi ﷺ as blessed people and praised them must have had the true beliefs and creed and they were on the true path of islam and therefore we should follow the creed of such people's
When did Prophet specifically said naqshbandi and etc. are good? Did they exist at his time ? No. And Naqshbandi arent they the ones who do magic and stuff which is sin in Islam ?
Hassan Salam you are wrong brother my english no good but i want explain easly , you cant find hadith about nakshi for sure , but you can find hadith about dhikr says 100 estagfirullah or lailahe illallah , and for example a sufi should dikrh every day 100 estagfirullah 100 lailahe illallah and more too, so this way of prophet a.s
I tell you little more about those so called "sheikh" (the haram fruits of the same trees which they call "al-azhar") Earning his PhD in 2013 from Al-Azhar University in Egypt, Professor (Egyptian cleric or Sheikh) Rashid Mustafa made a statement claiming that drinking alcohol is not haram (forbidden under Islam), and “those who say that it is haraam lie to God.”they should start reconsidering their religion. All I did was repeal the old interpretation of sharia and come up with a new one that helps establish coexistence and peace with other religions.Islam did not impose the distortion of the Bible or the Torah. A Muslim person should believe in these holy books as well. Some religious authorities interpreted few verses in a wrong way and considered that Muslim people should only believe in the Quran. What proves the failures of this claim is that when the Prophet was given the Holy Book (referring to the Torah), he kissed it, confirming that there is nothing that should be “higher.” My fatwas are based on textual evidence and verses. For example, the most recent verse related to pork consumption in the Quran denounces all previous ones that forbid it. It is the same for alcohol: the Quran forbids drunkenness because it is harmful. One should not pray after drinking alcohol as well, but this does not totally forbid the consumption of alcohol, especially since alcohol, in my opinion, has certain benefits.
My comments have been deleted, just because I revealed the truth! All four school of thoughts got the license from the kings of their time, while the scolars of Ehlul Bait were martyred one by one ! Imam Ja'far Al Sadiq عليه الصلاة و السلام stated that SUFIS ARE OUR ENEMIES ! No Hanafi etc. no sufi neither, only what the Quran has ordered that is the SCHOOL OF EHLUL BAIT عليهم الصلاة السلام ! YOU CAN DELETE THIS ALSO !
Check out Sheikh Imran Hosein Brother, the conquest of Constantinople is after the Malhama. Furthermore the Prophet (SAW) praised that Amir. You cannot praise the Ottomons for what crimes they did against Hagia Sophia, Orthodox Christian women (harem), and Orthodox Christian boys (Janisari). Peace and blessings be upon you. Ameen
according to saint paul bin seba the lawrance of america all the diviant groups Sufi orders like Alevi-Bektashi, Bayrami-Jelveti, Halveti (Gulshani, Jerrahi, Nasuhi, Rahmani, Sunbuli, Ussaki), Hurufi-Rüfai, Malamati, Mevlevi, Nakşibendi (Halidi, Haqqani), Qadiri-Galibi and Ja'fari all all perfect Muslims even if they worship the alive or dead so called saints. paul you should write your "another bible of jesus christ"
so sufism protected islam as shaik hamza yusuf meant? Then how come people still go to madina university for authentic knowledge and don't jump up and down doing hadra? So hadra is a sunnah as late shaik nazem told his followers. Great. Well done.
+Jericho S University of Medina does not offer 'authentic knowledge'. Authentic traditonal knowledge is one of the 4 madhabs. The reality is, you wouldn't know the difference either way.
+Jericho S but more people also go mauritania, morocco, syria, yemen, etc for true, traditional, authentic knowledge. madina university is not the end all be all of islamic education.
I dont understand sheikh, you praise arabs of the time of prophet, but not the arab scholars of this time. These arab scholars inherit the understanding of deen from the Chain of arab scholars before them who link to Tabieen and sahabas. It is the most pure form of Islam that one can get. The source from where our prophet (in madinah) came obviously has to have Islam in most pureform. The islam being taught in madinah cannot be wrong because it is the place where our prophet came from and the people around this area have always preserved it to be in the most purest form. How can you accept the understanding of deen from someone outside? Would you agree that in the corners of West, the real arabic is being taught and that arabic in arabia is wrong... NO!
U made no sense...Alsaud has nothing to do with rashiduns likwise todays shakhain have nothing to do with Salafs...and todays arabs have nothing to do with arabs of that time
I personally spent time with Shaykh Nazim, the leader of the sufi Naqshbandi order in London in the mid eighties. We were in a home across the street from Buckingham Palace. I witnessed an American woman kneel and kiss his feet. He spoke to me and changed my name to Amatillaah. I was not yet Muslim, yet was interested. I had adopted the name Samira while in Jordan, simply because I liked the sound. He said you are not Samira, you are Amatullaah. I brushed it off as irrelevant. Years later, I realized why. The root of Samira is s m r..staying up late joking and idle talking. I then took back my given name, Diane..comes from d y n...a religious judge. I went on to memorize Quran and am fluent in Arabic. I have translated fatawi Ibn Taymiyya on the subject of qadr....destiny. Although I prefer Salafiyya, Wahabiyya..Tawheed..I respect all Muslims as frail humans as myself, prone to error. I ask Brother Hamza to read the Kitaab at Tawheed, sharh Shaykh Uthaymayn. This is the real Islaam.
according to paul all the leaders of muslims of the past were all imam al adil and they will have shade under the throne of Allah on judgement day and that prophet specifically mentioned the turkish king who will be hanafi,maturidi and of naqshbandi order. the person what paul would never like to mention and appreciate is Yazeed ibn Muawiyyah may Allah be pleased of them both.that is what Al-Dhahabi said: he was the commander of that army during the campaign against Constantinople, among which were people such as Abu Ayyoob al-Ansaari. not the turkish sultan or pasha paul is trying to put in the minds of turkish muslims.
please sufi deceiver hamza yusuf explain why the dajjal has not yet emerged if the conquest of constantinople by Mohammed al Fatteh was the one the Prophet saws was referring to. Our Prophet saws was referring to its conquest by a man of ahlusunnah with the correct aqidah, not a naqshabandi sufi.
look, their (sufis) heart is open but the brain is locked and this was done 50,000 years before Allah created the Heaven & the earth, the most painful part is their believe systems are protected with a oil shield so the result always zero and Allah is the only one who can bring them to Tawhid,
Hamza Yusuf appears to be pandering to the audience while promoting his own ideas about "the true teaching of Islam". It is sad that he ignores the Madhab fanaticism of the past which I ask Allah (subhanehu wa taalaa) not allow it to repeat. How can a learned person state Allah (Subhanehu wa ta'alaa's) command: "And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. " (Surah 3:103) and having 4 Mihrabs (prayer spots) for each Madhab in the Haram masjid (Mekkah) as a miracle in one breath is beyond abnormal. If there is a symbol of unity it is praying together Shoulder to Shoulder. The Imams of the 3 madhabs learned and worshiped together. For example: Imam Malik was the teacher of Imam Al-Shafii, and Imam As-Shafii was the teacher of Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal. The Imams of the four Madhabs are innocent of those who claim to follow them; the same way the righteous Muslims whose graves became a place of veneration are innocent of the deeds of those who venerate their graves. And the Prophet (sallahau 'alaihi wasallam) was not praising a "Hanafi, Maturid" and Naqshabandi); He (sallahau 'alaihi wasallam) was praising a Muslim. Using the labels ""Hanafi, Maturid" and Naqshabandi" is like injecting sectarianism among the masses. What was the Madhab, Aqidah, and Tariqa of the Sahaba?
Where is the dicision there? We al l believe in Allah and his Messanger. We all accept the Quran and the saheeh hadiths. We all pray together in masjids and we pray almost the same way. Where is the division amongst those 4 madhabs ? And regarding to the hadiths about the fath of the Constantinople, the main idea was would prophet Muhammad pbuh praise someone who followed something which is bid'a or someting wrong? Because, by consensu, Muhammad Fatih was Hanafi, Moturidi and Naqshbandi. Or are you saying that our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh praised Muhammad Fatih and his army as a blessed Amir and blessed Army solely because they conquered Constantitiople and prophet Muhammad pbuh didn't care that they would be following bid'a or something wrong? That's the whole point.
There is no such Hadith ya Hamza Yusuf. Is he not Sufi? Seems like a blind followers. Those 4 were not by Allah blesaing is a disaster and they stayed simply because they were most famous and is the definition of division. What methaab did Abu Bakr follow? Exactly point closed.
the hadith i just posted proves the conquest of constantinople the Prophet saws was referring to will be by the mahdi, not some sufi naqshabandi. nice try hamza yusuf, you may fool your sufi sheep, but ahlusunnah will always exist to refute your rubbish. even a laymen can figure his deception out.
+chasespartus, typical sufi. thats why you are so deceived, you trust what this idiot says, rather then doing your own research. even when the hadith is there infront of you in black and white refuting what your beloved shaykh says, there must be some other explanation, like its been translated wrongly, or you have to study hadith. what has the science of hadith got to do with a simple translation of an authentic hadith? open your mind and leave the sufi cult.
Khalid bin Walid I agree with you the hadith is referring to the days of Mahdi (as) but let's show some respect to our brothers. These are not issues to discuss about. The ulema are unanimous that it is haram for layman to debate regarding the deem so let's stick with the hikma of our shuyookh inshallah ta'ala
In Bosnia too, we follow the pure islamic fikh and aqeedah, hanafi-maturidi, elhamdulillah.
+Hanefijski Mezheb whay is maturidi? Please explain to me, JazakAllah Khair in advance.
May the Salafis never spread their cancer in your lands. Ameen.
standingunder Ameen
ماشاءاللہ،
May Allah stand us with the Ahlu Sunnah, Hanafi, Maturidi and Qadiris on the day of judgement, Ameeen,
Dear love for you from Pakistan.
Hanefijski Mezheb don't let wahabi barbarism in your country
I am amazed to listen to your knowledge. All the four Imams of Ahlus Sunnah : Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafii and Imam Ahmed Bin Hunbal are the beacons of the faith.
What about their teacher? No mention ?
They would all declare Maturidis are heretics in creed.
@@busufyannonsene. Youre not a scholar.
All you wahabis are self taught. You dont have the intelligence to finish a university class
Elhamdulillah I’m hanafi, maturudi and Naqshbandi
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I wonder what the early hanafi scholars and Abu Hanifa himself will think about that🤔
@@PokemonDude880 Do not wonder brother. Read, read, read.
@@PokemonDude880he will agree with it
@@dindenwaliyyu2127 how could he agree with it when his own writings refute them
Shaykh Hamza is right, even Al Azar university don't agree with wahabi/salafi innovators.
+kazakhseven Official Azhar Shekhs such as the ones who supported SISI murder the innocent are deviant people whose testimony is worth nothing. As for the majority of the teachers and students of Al Azhar they refer to what you call 'Wahabi' as Hanbali madhhab. The Saudis follow the Hanbali Madhab as Sayidina Abdulqadir Al Jilani. They are targeted with the "Wahabi" label because they oppose innovations in religion with out compromise. As for the "Salafi" they do not form one monolithic group, but different groups who claim to follow the teachings of the Salaf As-Salih (the righteous predecessors)”-- the first three generations of Muslims-- based on the Hadith: The best people are my generation (qarnī), then those who follow them, then those who follow them."
As for who truly follow the Salaf Al-Salih, each group, including the non-Salafis claim as the one on the true path -- and Allah subhanehu wa tala'aaa knows best.
mohd azli Who taught you to call others names?
+mohd azli really? please. we (muslims and sh hamza himself) will never agreed to use that word. we are told to use nice words and not bad one. let just pray for ourselves and others for hidayah and forgiveness from ALLAH. please..
I tell you little more about those so called "sheikh" (one of the haram fruits of the same trees which they call "al-azhar") Earning his PhD in 2013 from Al-Azhar University in Egypt, Professor (Egyptian cleric or Sheikh) Rashid Mustafa made a statement claiming that drinking alcohol is not haram (forbidden under Islam), and “those who say that it is haraam lie to God.”
they should start reconsidering their religion. All I did was repeal the old interpretation of sharia and come up with a new one that helps establish coexistence and peace with other religions.
Islam did not impose the distortion of the Bible or the Torah. A Muslim person should believe in these holy books as well. Some religious authorities interpreted few verses in a wrong way and considered that Muslim people should only believe in the Quran. What proves the failures of this claim is that when the Prophet was given the Holy Book (referring to the Torah), he kissed it, confirming that there is nothing that should be “higher.”
My fatwas are based on textual evidence and verses. For example, the most recent verse related to pork consumption in the Quran denounces all previous ones that forbid it. It is the same for alcohol: the Quran forbids drunkenness because it is harmful. One should not pray after drinking alcohol as well, but this does not totally forbid the consumption of alcohol, especially since alcohol, in my opinion, has certain benefits.
+Ghulam Khaliq The Shaykh talks about Fiqh and understanding, conformity and dissent.
This is so beautiful. The salafi movement certainly had it's khair, let's not deny that, they put the importance of dalil from quran and sunnah back on the table and warned against ta'assub that had been spreading. Unfortunately, they've landed where they warned us from (ta'assub of the scholars). In the mean time, they've awoken the ummah. Now it's time for us to regain our belief, to improve our islam with the four fiqh madhahib. To improve our iman with the four aqidah madhahib. And to improve our ihsan with the rightly guided tasawwuf (not the deviant variant, but the original, pure tasawwuf of al-Hasan al-Basri for example)!
This deen will regain it's strength and glory in the world, as everywhere in the world muslils awaken after the long winter sleep we've had. Allahu akbar!
They've done no such thing. We are talking about their Islam Vs the true Islam. The prophet said their namaz Qur'an and actions would put yours to shame but they'll be misguided.
No Habibi Allah swt gave this Deen once a glory and it’s only once now wait for Imam Mehdi and Fitans Muslim Ummah will never rule you the world again. Allaho Aalim.
Muhammad Ansari your name is Ansari but you holding thoughts of Nasara... you should be giving room in your heart to every one... feel sad for you
Modern Salafi had no khair
@Muhammad Ansari and angels started the hanfi maturidi cult?
shaikh hamza defined the Tasawuf beautifully.
I love Shiekh Hamza for the sake of Allah SWT
U love shirk then
Salam to all sunni classical Islam al ash'ari al maturidi tahawiy and to all spiritual practitioner like naqshbandi qadiri chishti shadili rifa'iy and to Yemen
What about Athari? And what about the madhahib?
My salutions to the gathering of naqshbandi mehfil the enlightened souls may almighty Allah SWT bless us all for the sake of His Beloved Sal Lall laa hu alai hi wah Sallam ameen we are Qadri followers of India we are one ummaa
You cannot be enlightened soul unless you follow the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad.
@@dayan47 what you think auliya Allah are not followers of Holy prophet sas they're the original ones who spread the reality of spiritual science gifted to them Almighty through His Beloved SAS"'these friends of Almighty are mentioned in Quran.
To the people bashing sufis, you should first read about tasawwuf and the different sects in sufism before you repeat what you heard from other illiterate people.
Go dance in the mousque
@@MohammedHijabClips you just proved his point lmao what an ignorant fool
@@reggy526 Yh but these sufis just are off their heads (the ones that dance)
@@MohammedHijabClips Sufis are those who follow the likes of Junaid Baghdadi. The meaning of Tasawwuf for these people is to act according to Quran and Sunnah with your mind,body and soul.
These are the only people who should be referred to as Sufis. The ones who dance or do weird activities are fake sufis and we shouldn’t even call them sufis.
There are explanation about sufi from SHY on RUclips, go search it
I Am A follower of Naqshbandi and I am proud of it :D Alhamdulillah
the hadith is about Imam Mahdi. NOT naqshabandi or maturidi follwers.
the blessed army that will conquer constantinople is the army of Imam Mahdi during the end of times.
Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924
Chapter: The Conquest Of Constantinople, The Emergence Of The Dajjal And
The Descent Of 'Eisa bin Mariam:
"An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at
that time will come from Medina (to counteract the romans). When they
will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand
between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let
us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would
never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them.
They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom
Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be
constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the
third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be
conquerors of Constantinople....."
Stop worshipping grave and be a Muslim
Afg786 Malang Associate or partnering with Allah is major shirk (Sufi idiots)
Afg786 Malang celebrating prophets birthday and committing such sins and telling me that your knowledgeable, so funny you poker face
Abdul Wajid go follow your illuminati religion that's called Wahhabism....
No lying with mouth is " sharia "
Take out lying from heart is " tasawwuf "
They are both intertwined. It's Haram to lie with the heart hence it is connected to Shari3ah but to purify such diseases and make practice easy we use Tasawwuf.
im sick of youtube scholars. Hamza yusuf has studied enough to make his opinion. Have any of you? If people dont agree then stop watching. Dont comment filth in order to prove him wrong. if you feel he really needs to be corrected, contact him!
why youtube comments are here for you to express your opinion, if you dont like free speech get off youtube
Mee too im done with these online shykhs
جزاک اللہ خیرا شیخ
Very well explained
Love from Pakistan ❤️
Allahumma Arhama Syaikh Hamza Yusuf
Masha Allah.. great scholar.
Brothers and Sisters, let anyone who says the shahadah and believes in the One Allah, Mohammad (SAW) as Allah's last messenger and His slave and believes in the life hereafter (Akhira) live in peace even though you may disagree with them on 1000 matters. Let Allah be their judge of what they hold in their breasts and what they commit with their tongues and hands.
Hold firmly the rope of Allah and create not divisions among yourself.
The times are very hard on all Muslims, so let their be acceptance, tolerance and unity among the ummah. All of the sects are like branches and offshoots of the same tree. Celebrate the variation because that is how Allah has kept this deen and Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) alive and vibrant.
Brilliant. It could happen, because there were no borders.
subhan Allah Well Explained
sheikh hamza is an extraordinary scholar. His message is easily understandable. mashalla
Alhamdulillah, we have you in the Ummah
Thank you so much for sharing this!!
@Haqqseeker 786 lol..... Are you blind?
Shk Hamza you are amazing. We admire your knowledge and achievements.
Alhamdulillah, I am Hanafi and Maturidi
i am Bosnian and sunni..
WE LOVE SHAIKH HAMZA
Grand nana family was Turkish but I don't know who was she I was too young
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Also Qirat of Imama Abu Hafs (R.A)
Hanafi fiqh is the largest number of follower among sunni muslim majority of follwer in the countries of ottaman empire mughal empire central asia india pak and bangladesh turkey.
Alhamdulillah
Where u get the whole lecture
So wish he could have a platform in Huda , channel & a few other in which they are only saying their's is only the right way Subhanallah don't they not fear ALLAH AWJ
ahle sunnah jindabad
is that true sultan mehmed practicing naqsyabandi?
the Prophet saws with his Companions were not a council? How do you want to call them "a group of single people"?
This is similar to the teaching of Islam which was introduced to my homeland in Sulu for more than a thousand years ago.
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Abdullah bin Busr reports that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "Between the Malhama (the final War or Battle) and the conquest of the City ( i.e. Constantinople), there will be six years, and the Dajjal (Anti-Christ) shall appear in the seventh year." (Sahih Muslim, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah) . However, Mu'az ibn Jabal narrated this Hadith by stating that these events will occur within 7 months, not years. He narrated that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "Al-Malhama Al-Kubra (Big Battle), conquest of Constantinople, and the coming of Dajjal (Anti-Christ) will be (occur) within (a period of) seven months." (Abu Dawud and Ibn Maja)
well,it could fall again to hands of the non-Muslims and then reclaimed by al Mahdi.
hey munafeeg Khaled najis! ur wife is jariyah for Muslim men since u r not mumin! Hz. Fateh is the person by Ijma! if you reject Ijma as evidence u r kafir! there`s written City, how do u know this isabout Constantinople?
Beloved prophet says that my Ummah will get divided in 73 sects and among them only 1 sect will remain on the right path from my time untill the day of judgement so my brother's of ahle sunnah just asked these wahabis,salafis to prove their existence from the time of Rasulullah sallallahu Alaihi wasallim case will be closed
Zaeef Hadith ,you look like a Pakistani Mushrik braili
@@Manzar534 You're also one of them.who worship Graves and then call themselves Muslims
@@Manzar534 Whatever you say it,it's shirk
@@Manzar534 Inshort you can't build up your arguments from any tradition of the Prophet A.S neither do you deduct your logic from.Ayyaht of quran so stop spewing bullshit and follow what quran asks you to do
@@maaz87 Akhi just admit you were wrong.
Please upload the remaining lecture, if available. Thanks for sharing!
Allahu maujudumbila makaan
You say "he was", where is he now? The guy Muhammad al-Fatih? and what is his fathers name?
So then take the verse hurima alaykum al khamr wal maysar..forbidden to you are intoxicants and gambling...
What is the Ameer you are talking about who conquered the city that RasulUllah prophecied? What is his name? Sorry I asked again to be ensured.
Mohammed al Fatih
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Ghulam Khaliq, there id a hadeeth which says anything haraam in large quantities is haraam in small quantities.
Sister thats the problem with salafi they look at the hadith and take it face value but salafi brothers dnt have alot of fiqh knowledge this they don't know to Apply science of hadith and how to use it in specific instances for example if you take the 4 imams they have extensive knowledge of fiqh and hadith plz sister look in to this don't knock it I know alot of salafi brothers did not know basic fiqh just know hadith and most dnt even know tajweed and makarij
Sister thats the problem with salafi they look at the hadith and take it face value but salafi brothers dnt have alot of fiqh knowledge this they don't know to Apply science of hadith and how to use it in specific instances for example if you take the 4 imams they have extensive knowledge of fiqh and hadith plz sister look in to this don't knock it I know alot of salafi brothers did not know basic fiqh just know hadith and most dnt even know tajweed and makarij
But what is the method of prophet.
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I am a Hanefi, Maturidi and Sufi. Follow Naksbendi and Çerrahi sufi orders.
And you need to know Arabic so well to be NOT confused, yet scholars who know so much are also really not reaching the very ordinary person.
They should really talk to each other about Muslim global concerns and especially the very ordinary people who want Islam to help them. Most scholars now are purely academic. Okay, it might be the preacher's job to talk to ordinary people or to teach basics, but the preacher's take their Q from the scholars and bring these things , even more confused on the ground.
The result. Nobody knows any longer what Islam is, and our youth are losing interest.
That is really well placed criticism I know too well what you're talking about as I have spent many years in Egypt.
Sheikh Hamza mentions a great authentic hadeeth about a great leader, but nonetheless he failed to mention that there is an ikhtilaf regarding this issue, that the Ulema disagree whether the hadeeth strictly talks about Sultan Fatih.
it is bizarre to use the hadith about the conquest, in order to allege that the Prophet peace be upon him praised naqashabani or maturidi!
such claims are false.
also the hadith has to be looked at by using other related hadith. it seems that the conquest is in refernce to the latter days.
Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924
Chapter: The Conquest Of Constantinople, The Emergence Of The Dajjal And
The Descent Of 'Eisa bin Mariam:
"An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at
that time will come from Medina (to counteract the romans). When they
will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand
between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let
us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would
never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them.
They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom
Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be
constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the
third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be
conquerors of Constantinople......"
+Parvez Khan totally agree
How can there be hanafi-maturidi-naqshbandi in the time of the Prophet salla Allahu alayhi wasallam ? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ didn't they all start emering after the sahabah years??
Every Silsila is chained and its spiritual connection with our prophet
It was a prophecy. Do you understand it?
We sunnah blv that 4 mazhab on huq as well as ullma tasauf but the problem is in todays new innovated type of tasuf which is manipulated by bidah and shirk
Actually the zahir is sharyat and batin is tasuf.
But without the sharyat tasuf is no where.
And our brother salafi may Allah guide them too are very strict and in some places extreme their for conflicts occurs between sunnah .
So plzz.
Dont go in the name on tasuf to ahl bidah and in the name of salafis to ahl khwarij.
Alhamdulillah we all are ahl sunnah wal jammah.
I m proud hanafi and naqshbandi.
May allah bless us and protect from both sides extream .
And make us from.
خير أمور أوسط
True sister...The real Suni Sufism had no inventions but todays ignorants have added their culture into religions and has damaged our sect Then wahabis attack our school nd sect ...we have to show and prove them we are not graveworshipper we follow Quran o Sunnah Tasawuf is way to Allah and we should follow actual auliya not todays imposter pirs Then no one will attack us or deviate
@@blacksheep6174 correct as i said we are stucked between 2 extremes
Alhamdulillah we believe in tasuf but without the new inventions and stick to tauheed va sunnah
@Comrade Legion salafist are wahabis . Mostly Arabs in saudi are wahabis
And this Name came from ibne Wahab of najd
@Comrade Legion 😂 Wahab is name of Allah swt but Wahabiii is a secttt that follows M bin Wahab of Najd go take history classes . Wahabis also claim to be salafis . I know Salaf are the fist generations
@Comrade Legion 😅 u are running away from reality . I guess u are one of those groups
I have no idea how discussing Muslim sectarianism can unite Muslims.
Alhamdullillah I’m hanafi nakshibandi
The speaker has not quoted the hadeeth? Is if so what do the Muhaddeeth have said about it's authenticity
We are in Indonesia follow pure Islam Fiqh Syafi'i and akeedah al asy'ariyah
We are proud Hanfi Qadiri ...
Imdad Kun Imdad Kun Asbande gham Azad Kun Dar Din Dunyan shad Kun Ya Ghaus Ul Azam Dastageer
Ya Gaus e Azam Dastageer ♥️🇮🇳
Where r u FROM bro
Someone can tell me is it true...soul of naqsh was in the cave with the prophet Muhammad and abu bakr..making zikr e tijani
Of course it’s not true 🤣🤣
also hanafi maturidi nakshibandi alhamdulillah
How could Muhammad have praised Muhammad Fatih when he was born hundreds of years after the Prophet?
because he is Prophet! by the help from ALLAH! btw he is Sultan Mehmet II radiyALLAHU anh
U have low iq.
Ottomans patronized Hanafi mazhab and did nothing to preach the pristine teachings of Islam
TILL OCTOBER 1924
And even the second most important pillar of Islaam,Salaah, was not spared the effects of Madh-hab fanaticism. The followers of the various Madh-habs began to refuse to pray behindthe Imaams from other Madh-habs. This resulted in the building of separate prayer niches in the masjid communities where more than one Madh-hab existed.
Masjids of this type can still be seen in places like Syria, where Sunni Muslims follow either the Hanafee or Shaafi’ee Madh-hab. Even the most holy masjid, al-Masjid al- Haraam of Makkah, which represents the unity of Muslims and thereligion of Islaam, was affected. Separate prayer niches were set up around the Ka’bah: one for an Imaam from each of the schools.
And when the time for Salaah came, an Imaam from one of the Madhhabs would lead a congregation of followers from his Madh-hab in prayer; then another Imaam from one of the other Madh-habs would lead his congregation of followers and so on. It is interesting to note that separate places of prayer for each of the Madh-habs remained
around the Ka’bah until the first quarter of the twentieth century when ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn Sa’oud and his army conquered Makkah (October of 1924) and united all worshippers behind a single Imaam regardless of his or their Madh-habs.
sanaulla sharief no they didnt, watch the video
selfies are the biggest madahib fanatics
"and the ja'afari in shia tradition" What??? giving signals to iran that i am with you as well.
what is your problem?? are u wahabi?
@Ike Dakhlallah it seems you are both wahhabi, not?
@@LiberalDictate
You donkey, the four imams themselves condemned the rawafid of their times and believed that certain beliefs if held make you out of the fold of the Islam. I don't need Abdul Wahhab to know that the Shi'a are a sect of baatil.
Hamza yusuf is no more Shia(Sufi). He is now fully under the flag of tawheed
How did ummah pray after prophet saaws and before 4 madhab?
There were different of opinions during the sahabas time رضي الله عنهم أجمعين
Hamza, is NAQSHABANDHI an ARABIC Word? Please tell me that?
+Shabir Zainudeen have adab
Lol .. "have adab .." if anybody understood "adab" that's DEEP ..
jahil man is mocking those who call the innovation as innovation and is saying that prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wassalam praised hanfi mazhab, maturidi aqeedah and naqshbandi tareeqa. what a joke and how these people consider these statements of ignorance and wisdom and knowledge?
I agree. the Prophet peace be upon him did not praise maturidi or naqshabandi. in fact the Prophet peace be upon him warned us of following innovations.
maturidi uses greek philosophy for their theology.
naqshabandi has many bida'.
anyways the hadith about constantinople could refer to the end of times as explained in Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924
Chapter: The Conquest Of Constantinople, The Emergence Of The Dajjal And
The Descent Of 'Eisa bin Mariam:
"An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at
that time will come from Medina (to counteract the romans). When they
will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand
between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let
us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would
never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them.
They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom
Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army) which would be
constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed and the
third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be
conquerors of Constantinople....."
so the blessed army is the army of Imam Mahdi. and the best leader is Imam mahdi. hence the leader mentioned in the hadith is not the ottoman leader but rather from the projeny of the prophet (sallahllahu alihi wasallam) i.e. Imam Mahdi
May Allah guide u and Brighten the light of islam in ur hearts this hate will burn u eventually
This talk is very obviously pandering to the audience. No mention of the backbone of Ottoman power, the Janissary Corps and its adherence to the terribly deviant Bektashi Order (for instance), or the secularist dog Kemal Ataturk. It's disheartening to see scholars I deeply respect speak so politically. I've been to Turkey, and the abundance of secularism and superstition and lack of religious expression is actually a bit saddening.
standingunder Yeah, didnt rasulAllah SallAllahu aleihi wa salam also praise/honor Kuffar?
It makes more sense if he honored them as persons(for their actions) and not their belief.
***** Of course shaykh. Many of the Turks I met with were beautiful Muslims, ma sha Allah. All my criticisms are directed at the state.
+Abd Al-Karim Can you give me an example of him praising a non-Muslim. I sincerely wanna know. Might expand my knowledge a little. But besides that,a non-Muslim might be someone who is yet to be Muslim or died in an era when the Message could not reach him/her. But would the Prophet Sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam praise one who has entered the Deen and corrupted it? Maybe that's the point that Shaykh Hamza was conveying.
I don't think he means the general umma but the scholarly consensus of Turkey. Also he means sectarianism within the faith not secularism that's entirely different. That's something we all suffer from unfortunately.
It was miracle that there were four imams at the same time in masjid al haram? Are you really going to present this as a good thing?
They couldn't agree to pay behind one imam and that's a good thing?
At what cost would you try to defend your sects? Fear Allah and limit your religious identity to muslim.
Islam is simple and clear if one wants to follow the truth. The truth is the Book of Allah and the Saheeh Ahadeeth to be followed as understood by the Sahabah and all the Ulamah who followed them strictly up to our time. As for Madhab or opinion of a Shaykh Imam then if in an issue the proof is provided from the Quran and Sunnah then we accept and if not, then we take the Imam Madhab that has the proof. If no proof then we follow that which is closest to the truth. Anyone that call to other than the Aqeedah and Manhajus Salaf as Salih is a deviant. Such as the sect; Shia, Soofi, Khawarij, Asharis, Marturidis, Brelwis, Naqshabandis etc etc.
Hold on a second. All four madhabs are upon the Qu'ran and Sunnah to say they're not is haram as these schools were founded by the greatest thinkers of fiq in the time of salaf al-salih so if you follow one of the four schools of jurisprudence then you are upon the Qu'ran and Sunnah. If you step outside the four schools which were agreed concencus of the ulama in the time of salaf al-salih than you are outside of ahlu sunnah. I agree Shia is a sect and who are the khawarij of today? All the terrorist groups that claim Islam and what group of thinking they follow? That's right Salafism. As for Ashari and Maturdi, they're not considered sects but as theological schools as the same with Athari creed which Hanbali school follow. All three theological schools agree on most things but have minor differences in secondary matters. The salafi claim to follow the Athari aqeeda but have been rejected by traditional Hanbalis who do not associate with themselves with salafism and claimed Salafi creed is based on Ibn Taymiyyah who was heavily influenced and inspired by anthropologist scholars such as Ibn Karram (founder of Karramiyyah) and Muqatil ibn Sulayman. These two were refuted by great scholars of the salaf. They belong to a group known as the Mushabbihah and yes, they still exist today but hide behind the term "Salafi" when there is nothing salaf about them as they reject many teachings of salaf al-salih. I could mention a list for them if you want. One of them being tasawwuf which was practised by all Imams of salaf al-salih. Unfurtently, Salafis are ignorant to understand a sufi is not a club you can join. You have to become an Awliyah and if you do not strictly follow tasawwuf, it is haram to call yourself a sufi. As for Naqshabandis, it is a Sufi school order.
I bet you didn't know Sultan Mehmed II, the conquerer of constantinople was prophesised by prophet Muhammed (PBUH). In hadith, he is seen as someone being in the right path yet he followed the Hanafi madhab, Maturdi creed and Naqshabandi Sufi school of order. This alone by the words of the prophet refutes Salafis.
the paul bin saba the lawrence calls the four mehrabs in kaba as miracle and praises that people used to pray in each others mihrab if they miss the prayer.
which means paul bin saba the lawrence of america wants once again muslims build the four mehrabs to enjoy and celeberate the diversity in adversity and adversity in diverstiy.
The Hanafi Books
When were they written?
I. Qudoory 5th Century AH
II. Hidayah 6th Century AH
III. Qaadiy Khan 6th Century AH
IV. Fatawa Saraajiyah 7th Century AH
V. Kanz 8th Century AH
VI. Nahayah, Sharh Waqayah, Anayah 8th Century AH
VII. Tahtawi 8th Century AH
VIII. Jami ur Ramooz 8th Century AH
IX. Fath ul Qadeer 9th Century AH
X. Bazaziyyah, Khalaash, Kaydooriy, Hilyah 9th Century AH
XI. Bahr ur Raqaiq, 10th Century AH
XII. Tanwir ul Absaar, Zahiratul Uqbaa 11th Century AH
XIII. Fatawa Khariyyah, Shaamiy, Durr ul Mukhtaar 12th Century AH
XIV. Fatawa Alamgheeriy compiled by five hundred Hanafi scholars 12th Century AH
XV. Maraaqiy ul Fallah, Malaa Budd, Umda Radiyah 13th Century AH
Not one of these books was authored by Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah), the Imam that you claim to follow. These books ascribe statements and fatawa to Abu Hanifah (rahimahullah) usually without chains of narrators (isnad) that reach him. Whose madhab are you following? There are thousands of other books like these, each book contradicting many others, several different fatawa for the same question, where is the so-called ‘solidified madhab based upon centuries of enhancements’
sanaulla sharief - you could say the same thing about those Mutawwatir-less Hadiths and 'their attributing them' to the Prophet SAAWS !! please leave such matters, it is very clear that you don't have a balanced conscience.
sanaulla sharief yeah man that's pukkas! not like al bani uthaymeen writing kufr in the nude 20th century
What's a pukkas? 😁
it means this is PUKKA:
Hanafi Books
When were they written?
I. Qudoory 5th Century AH
II. Hidayah 6th Century AH
III. Qaadiy Khan 6th Century AH
IV. Fatawa Saraajiyah 7th Century AH
V. Kanz 8th Century AH
VI. Nahayah, Sharh Waqayah, Anayah 8th Century AH
VII. Tahtawi 8th Century AH
VIII. Jami ur Ramooz 8th Century AH
IX. Fath ul Qadeer 9th Century AH
X. Bazaziyyah, Khalaash, Kaydooriy, Hilyah 9th Century AH
XI. Bahr ur Raqaiq, 10th Century AH
XII. Tanwir ul Absaar, Zahiratul Uqbaa 11th Century AH
XIII. Fatawa Khariyyah, Shaamiy, Durr ul Mukhtaar 12th Century AH
XIV. Fatawa Alamgheeriy compiled by five hundred Hanafi scholars 12th Century AH
XV. Maraaqiy ul Fallah, Malaa Budd, Umda Radiyah 13th Century AH
Naughty, naughty Hamza Yusuf. Both Al-Albani and Al-Arna'ut weakened that hadith about Constantinople. It has an unknown narrator.
I challenge anyone to SHOW PROOF that Amir Muhammad al Fatih was naqshbandi or maturidi or called himself these titles ..... Remember the beloved Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said what means in the end times we will see much differences of opinion, and his answer on what we should do if we find ourselves living in those times was HOLD fast to the Quran and the sunnah. He didnt say blindly follow scholars......think on that.Let me tell all my friends here and everything I'm saying we all can agree. #1 There is a huge difference between those scholars centuries ago who were practicing tazkiya and the modern day sufis of today . The ottoman empire eventually fell into mass innovations.
#2 we can all agree scholar and layman, as sidi Ahmed zarruq said if you find something being practiced that's against the sharia we throw it against the wall or we get rid of it ..
#3 no practice and no belief coming from anyone ,doesn't matter how big a scholar they are, if its inspiration or handed down from one scholar to the next ....NO beliefs ,actions, words or statements can contradict the sharia. Period
I BELIEVE THE ONE WHO CONQUERS CONSTANTINOPLE WILL BE THE MAHDI AND HIS ARMY AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST COULD BE IN THE COMING YEARS
insh'Allah
İstanbul conqurer 2 times , ones done with sword 600 years ago and ones is coming inshaAllah with no swords only with people saying Lailahe illAllah Muhammed Resulullah , Allahu Ekber
Salafi call them Kaafir not mubtadeen.
Sahaba were not Sufi or naqshbandi
Sahaba didnt used youtube
SPY Pigeon precisely
@@blacksheep6174 they never used moon and stars also, thats from paganism
@Yusuf Isa serious are you really this deluded, prove your claim that the prophet has anything to do with the naqshabandi sect
@@blacksheep6174 idiot. Innovation in a worldy affair does not equate to innovation in terms of the methodology of worship (ibaadah). Go learn before speaking.
the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) did NOT praise maturidi or naqshbandi!
this is a complete misunderstanding of the hadith.
the hadith simply states that the muslim army and their leader who conquer constantinople are blessed.
no where does it say anything about their particular school of creed.
Parvez Khan the fact that there were described by Nabi ﷺ as blessed people and praised them must have had the true beliefs and creed and they were on the true path of islam and therefore we should follow the creed of such people's
The hadith refers to imam mahdi most likely. Other hadith related to the topic implies that
Parvez Khan this hadith has come to pass and the event has already taken place , so the question of imam Mahdi السلامعليهم does not even arise
hadith is clarified in sahih muslim. The Army will conquer constantinople during the end of times.
Sahih Muslim Book 41, Hadith 6924
Parvez Khan then why are listening or writing a comment
When did Prophet specifically said naqshbandi and etc. are good? Did they exist at his time ? No. And Naqshbandi arent they the ones who do magic and stuff which is sin in Islam ?
Hassan Salam can you prove your allegations , you are liar and it is a grave sin fear Allah
Hassan Salam you are wrong brother my english no good but i want explain easly , you cant find hadith about nakshi for sure , but you can find hadith about dhikr says 100 estagfirullah or lailahe illallah , and for example a sufi should dikrh every day 100 estagfirullah 100 lailahe illallah and more too, so this way of prophet a.s
I tell you little more about those so called "sheikh" (the haram fruits of the same trees which they call "al-azhar") Earning his PhD in 2013 from Al-Azhar University in Egypt, Professor (Egyptian cleric or Sheikh) Rashid Mustafa made a statement claiming that drinking alcohol is not haram (forbidden under Islam), and “those who say that it is haraam lie to God.”they should start reconsidering their religion. All I did was repeal the old interpretation of sharia and come up with a new one that helps establish coexistence and peace with other religions.Islam did not impose the distortion of the Bible or the Torah. A Muslim person should believe in these holy books as well. Some religious authorities interpreted few verses in a wrong way and considered that Muslim people should only believe in the Quran. What proves the failures of this claim is that when the Prophet was given the Holy Book (referring to the Torah), he kissed it, confirming that there is nothing that should be “higher.” My fatwas are based on textual evidence and verses. For example, the most recent verse related to pork consumption in the Quran denounces all previous ones that forbid it. It is the same for alcohol: the Quran forbids drunkenness because it is harmful. One should not pray after drinking alcohol as well, but this does not totally forbid the consumption of alcohol, especially since alcohol, in my opinion, has certain benefits.
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My comments have been deleted, just because I revealed the truth! All four school of thoughts got the license from the kings of their time, while the scolars of Ehlul Bait were martyred one by one ! Imam Ja'far Al Sadiq عليه الصلاة و السلام stated that SUFIS ARE OUR ENEMIES ! No Hanafi etc. no sufi neither, only what the Quran has ordered that is the SCHOOL OF EHLUL BAIT عليهم الصلاة السلام ! YOU CAN DELETE THIS ALSO !
Don't forget that we are supposed to have a khalifa
I am also Hanfi. But the way u are showing Hanfi little superior is not appreciated.
The opening of Constantinople has not occurred yet. So that Hadith of the prophet is still a prophecy to be fulfilled inshallah soon
you're about 600 years late
+Bananaman it hasn't happened yet
Its supposed to be conquered again. He's referring to the second conquest.
The first time clearly happened by Sultan Mehmet Fateh, rahimahu Allah
What's the proof it's referring to the second conquest.
Check out Sheikh Imran Hosein Brother, the conquest of Constantinople is after the Malhama. Furthermore the Prophet (SAW) praised that Amir. You cannot praise the Ottomons for what crimes they did against Hagia Sophia, Orthodox Christian women (harem), and Orthodox Christian boys (Janisari). Peace and blessings be upon you. Ameen
The naqshbandi cult is not Islam
according to saint paul bin seba the lawrance of america all the diviant groups
Sufi orders like Alevi-Bektashi, Bayrami-Jelveti, Halveti (Gulshani, Jerrahi, Nasuhi, Rahmani, Sunbuli, Ussaki), Hurufi-Rüfai, Malamati, Mevlevi, Nakşibendi (Halidi, Haqqani), Qadiri-Galibi and Ja'fari all all perfect Muslims even if they worship the alive or dead so called saints. paul you should write your "another bible of jesus christ"
oh no🤣🤣🤣 so many pirs
I need 2nd wife. Dont want to divorce first wife
Yani ?
Why do you need another
Turkey lol. Go there and check it out
so sufism protected islam as shaik hamza yusuf meant? Then how come people still go to madina university for authentic knowledge and don't jump up and down doing hadra? So hadra is a sunnah as late shaik nazem told his followers. Great. Well done.
+Jericho S University of Medina does not offer 'authentic knowledge'. Authentic traditonal knowledge is one of the 4 madhabs. The reality is, you wouldn't know the difference either way.
so as you, so let us search for it.
+Jericho S read teh chapter on Hz Ali within Musnad ahmad
+Jericho S ppl go there to learn delusion.
+Jericho S but more people also go mauritania, morocco, syria, yemen, etc for true, traditional, authentic knowledge. madina university is not the end all be all of islamic education.
I dont understand sheikh, you praise arabs of the time of prophet, but not the arab scholars of this time. These arab scholars inherit the understanding of deen from the Chain of arab scholars before them who link to Tabieen and sahabas. It is the most pure form of Islam that one can get. The source from where our prophet (in madinah) came obviously has to have Islam in most pureform. The islam being taught in madinah cannot be wrong because it is the place where our prophet came from and the people around this area have always preserved it to be in the most purest form. How can you accept the understanding of deen from someone outside? Would you agree that in the corners of West, the real arabic is being taught and that arabic in arabia is wrong... NO!
U made no sense...Alsaud has nothing to do with rashiduns likwise todays shakhain have nothing to do with Salafs...and todays arabs have nothing to do with arabs of that time
I personally spent time with Shaykh Nazim, the leader of the sufi Naqshbandi order in London in the mid eighties. We were in a home across the street from Buckingham Palace.
I witnessed an American woman kneel and kiss his feet. He spoke to me and changed my name to Amatillaah. I was not yet Muslim, yet was interested.
I had adopted the name Samira while in Jordan, simply because I liked the sound.
He said you are not Samira, you are Amatullaah.
I brushed it off as irrelevant.
Years later, I realized why.
The root of Samira is s m r..staying up late joking and idle talking. I then took back my given name, Diane..comes from d y n...a religious judge.
I went on to memorize Quran and am fluent in Arabic. I have translated fatawi Ibn Taymiyya on the subject of qadr....destiny.
Although I prefer Salafiyya, Wahabiyya..Tawheed..I respect all Muslims as frail humans as myself, prone to error.
I ask Brother Hamza to read the Kitaab at Tawheed, sharh Shaykh Uthaymayn. This is the real Islaam.
There are mistakes in kitab al taweed.
oooooo.............. really.what type of mistakes ur talking abt
A lot misunderstanding of quranic ayats. Especially on understanding shirk and tawheed.
i am waitingfor examples
Have you read book?
I can't find any ahadith that mentions NAQSHBANDI ???. maybe it's a BAND lol.....
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Haha, why isn't he a Hanafi Naqshbandi then?! He is a Maliki Sufi. 😅😅😅
according to paul all the leaders of muslims of the past were all imam al adil and they will have shade under the throne of Allah on judgement day and that prophet specifically mentioned the turkish king who will be hanafi,maturidi and of naqshbandi order.
the person what paul would never like to mention and appreciate is Yazeed ibn Muawiyyah may Allah be pleased of them both.that is what Al-Dhahabi said: he was the commander of that army during the campaign against Constantinople, among which were people such as Abu Ayyoob al-Ansaari. not the turkish sultan or pasha paul is trying to put in the minds of turkish muslims.
Never knew how much idiotacy this person has until i watched this video
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please sufi deceiver hamza yusuf explain why the dajjal has not yet emerged if the conquest of constantinople by Mohammed al Fatteh was the one the Prophet saws was referring to. Our Prophet saws was referring to its conquest by a man of ahlusunnah with the correct aqidah, not a naqshabandi sufi.
look, their (sufis) heart is open but the brain is locked and this was done 50,000 years before Allah created the Heaven & the earth, the most painful part is their believe systems are protected with a oil shield so the result always zero and Allah is the only one who can bring them to Tawhid,
@@ghulamkhaliq3463 😊🤣
Hamza Yusuf appears to be pandering to the audience while promoting his own ideas about "the true teaching of Islam". It is sad that he ignores the Madhab fanaticism of the past which I ask Allah (subhanehu wa taalaa) not allow it to repeat. How can a learned person state Allah (Subhanehu wa ta'alaa's) command: "And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. " (Surah 3:103) and having 4 Mihrabs (prayer spots) for each Madhab in the Haram masjid (Mekkah) as a miracle in one breath is beyond abnormal.
If there is a symbol of unity it is praying together Shoulder to Shoulder. The Imams of the 3 madhabs learned and worshiped together. For example: Imam Malik was the teacher of Imam Al-Shafii, and Imam As-Shafii was the teacher of Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal. The Imams of the four Madhabs are innocent of those who claim to follow them; the same way the righteous Muslims whose graves became a place of veneration are innocent of the deeds of those who venerate their graves.
And the Prophet (sallahau 'alaihi wasallam) was not praising a "Hanafi, Maturid" and Naqshabandi); He (sallahau 'alaihi wasallam) was praising a Muslim. Using the labels ""Hanafi, Maturid" and Naqshabandi" is like injecting sectarianism among the masses. What was the Madhab, Aqidah, and Tariqa of the Sahaba?
+Ibn Omer the anti-madhab movement is sectarianism itself
you again! do yourself a favour and research what a madhabs actually are.
@@adityaikhsanprasiddha1169 imam shafi was beaten up by malaki extemeists, madhabs are fanatical sects too
Oh again.. u keyboard scholats
Where is the dicision there? We al l believe in Allah and his Messanger. We all accept the Quran and the saheeh hadiths. We all pray together in masjids and we pray almost the same way. Where is the division amongst those 4 madhabs ? And regarding to the hadiths about the fath of the Constantinople, the main idea was would prophet Muhammad pbuh praise someone who followed something which is bid'a or someting wrong? Because, by consensu, Muhammad Fatih was Hanafi, Moturidi and Naqshbandi. Or are you saying that our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh praised Muhammad Fatih and his army as a blessed Amir and blessed Army solely because they conquered Constantitiople and prophet Muhammad pbuh didn't care that they would be following bid'a or something wrong? That's the whole point.
There is no such Hadith ya Hamza Yusuf. Is he not Sufi? Seems like a blind followers.
Those 4 were not by Allah blesaing is a disaster and they stayed simply because they were most famous and is the definition of division. What methaab did Abu Bakr follow? Exactly point closed.
***** thats not the hadith i was refering too, I know that exists.
+Arabic Alphabet your akhlaq is directly proportional to your knowledge. may Allah guide us.
Aditya Ikhsan Prasiddha I don't worship dead saints that enough makes me better than you
Aditya Ikhsan Prasiddha He called me name first so why did you not insult your sufi friend?
+Arabic Alphabet people like you make salafis/wahhabis have bad reputation
the hadith i just posted proves the conquest of constantinople the Prophet saws was referring to will be by the mahdi, not some sufi naqshabandi. nice try hamza yusuf, you may fool your sufi sheep, but ahlusunnah will always exist to refute your rubbish. even a laymen can figure his deception out.
+Khalid bin Walid You haven't studied the science of hadith, you don't even know what your reading.
+chasespartus, typical sufi. thats why you are so deceived, you trust what this idiot says, rather then doing your own research. even when the hadith is there infront of you in black and white refuting what your beloved shaykh says, there must be some other explanation, like its been translated wrongly, or you have to study hadith. what has the science of hadith got to do with a simple translation of an authentic hadith? open your mind and leave the sufi cult.
their religion (sufism) is based on "hidden meaning"
can you imagine, if Omar Bin Khattab (ra) still alive and he found this hamza???
Khalid bin Walid I agree with you the hadith is referring to the days of Mahdi (as) but let's show some respect to our brothers. These are not issues to discuss about. The ulema are unanimous that it is haram for layman to debate regarding the deem so let's stick with the hikma of our shuyookh inshallah ta'ala
Khalid bin Walid ~ well said..!!