Full Suspension Vs Hardtail | What's More Fun?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Full suspension or hardtail, which is better? Or is there even a better bike? Neil and Blake find some properly rough trails around Fort William and see if the hardtail can keep up.
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Blake loves his hardtail, but Neil is a little sceptical. On rough trails, though, does Neil have the right idea with his high-end full sums, or is Blake’s purist approach the way to go?
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If you could have JUST one or the other, which would you choose? 🤔
Global Mountain Bike Network FULL SUS!
Full sus all day er day! Unless im at the pump track
Global Mountain Bike Network that would be an hardtail
Hardtail anyday
My fully.
Haha calls a £1700 bike not premium. Ouch
when the comparison is a 6000 quid bike... i guess it isn't lol
Yup, especially when you can get a full sus Voodoo or boardman with hydro brakes and 1x11 gearing for £1200. All they really need is a wheel upgrade.
You don't have real mtb do you
You can for sure get fantastic bikes in this price range range (but not always). But premium? Nope.. You need to cough up away more..
I know I’ve never even seen a 1700 dollar bike
In my opinion The bike doesn’t make the fun, it’s what you choose to do and ride that makes the bike and mountain biking fun in general
thats it,nick.
You're right
Nick Mundy yeah cos if you do an enduro race on a DH bike that ain’t gonna be fun 😂
Hell yes!
thats true, in this sport/hobby like any other, don't get stuck chasing the Dragon, thinking your next upgrade, the next hype equipment, the next best and all that will somehow give you more love for the sport. stop working extra hours trying to afford the latest and greatest gadgets and try to create more free time for your sports/hobbies
Obviously HTs are more fun and obviously because I can't afford a full ha ha ha
Edit: wow! So many likes. Last year I got a crazy deal on 2019 Trek Fuel EX7, sold the hardtail for quite good money. What a change, banana on my face each ride :-D
although gotta say the bike related gear eats up so much money, it's kinda badly equipped rider on a full sus or well equipped on HT that is often the case. People sometimes buy a full sus and don't have a shock pump on day one, cause of "economy" reasons....
Same for me
Same here
@T N Still alot for average people compared to HTs
Me to
Not everyone can afford a full suspension bike but I really enjoy my hardtail!!
Matthias Weidenholzer saved my money for 2 and half years... dream came true
Matthias Weidenholzer I got my full sus second hand really good condition. I got a Saracen kili flyer for £750. It’s got fox sus front and rear. Seriously have a look online on gumtree or something
pink bike is good to
Matthias Weidenholzer look for used ones, but i am gonna get myself a btwin 540s, pretty decent not the best but for my uses it will fit and hey its got an air shock (no air forks tho).
Matthias Weidenholzer check out thrill bikes...they have full sus bike that is cheap
Blake said it: on hardtail you are closely to the limits, so sometimes it pushes you out of comfort zone. But trail I've tried, fullsus feels boring quite often. Therefore HT is for me more fun.
But its subjective.
i was the 100th like lol
@Adrijana Radosevic Of course you have more freedom on full sus. And in dream world with unlimited sources of trails and time its obvious choice. But real world is different, hence a HT is my choice. But its mine and if someone wants full sus its fine and he is no lesser biker.
My local trails are never boring. Especially with a full sus
@@dasKontroloer Lucky you, enjoy them, like you want ;-)
This is actually making me consider selling my full sus and going back to hardtail 😂 I kind of miss the feeling of barely being in control 😅
Perhaps at some point mountain bikes will become so good that they will just be boring.
Hardtail !
Thats so true
With my hard tail the only thing I noice is that the back likes to slide out
I have a $350.00 ALDI/Polygon manufactured 29er hard tail 120mm Suntour, all alloy, discs and Acera 2x9 group set. I didn't want to spend $2500.00 on something I might not like doing, that was almost 12months ago. I have got my moneys worth 100x over. I ride with a group that have full carbon $6-10k and I do a pretty good job at mixing with then on the downhill and flowy twisties. Admittedly the up hill climbs I struggled, but less now. Only cost has been for a new seat post and a set of clippins. The important thing is to have fun.
May i know which polygon model was it pls?
I honestly find riding the very rough stuff on a hardtail more fun than scary. Either that or I'm just really out of my head. 😂
Your poll should have a button for "Both". Different horses for different courses.
I love my longtravel fullsus bike just because I can hammer down ridiculous stuff without having to worry about grip or staying on. BUT I actually want to have a hardtail for winter because it's easier to maintain and you can learn important skills like line choice and smooth riding which will make your riding on the fullsus even better.
Never Go OTB! Go buy a hardtail dude! Seriously you should get one. Or build one. Nothing like having a hardtail you pieced together yourself.
Noel Castillo only the money is holding me back😉😂
Everybody here is going for hardtail. I have had both and am just a casual rider, don't have loads of time to practice and get really great at riding. I just want to go fast as I can downhill for the thrills. When I sold my hardtail and got a full suspension, all of the sudden I could go so much faster and have way more fun on the same trails for not too much more money (mine used cost around 900). Totally worth it in my case.
Just got back from an all day mountain bike ride on my hardtail😇
Joe O'Carroll How is it all day, you have still got 6 hrs left
I did that yesterday, but with my new Canyon Spectral!
sushruth ravishankar différent time zones?
A friend laughed at me because I ride hardtail but than I laughed back when there were climbs 😂
Hey im a proud owner of a Trek Roscoe 8...my friend also made fun of me for riding a ht...same i laughed at him when i smoked him uphill🤭
Wait why is the ht lighter?
@@Alkize06 because it doesn’t have suspension in the back
@@Alkize06 Even if the hardtail was heavier, it has a solid rear end which translates more energy into the rear wheel from each pedal stroke. That's why they're faster. With the rear suspension, some energy is lost due to the softness of the strut. That's with rebound pumping back up and the initial load. There are a few different factors but it's even true with hard suspension sports cars. There's a sweet spot with adjustment, so even the same car will acceleration faster with a harder suspension setup.
You from Oxford, physics department? That's a great explanation
Blake, the man of the people.
Yo, you guys said £ 1600 bike isn't premium?
So what about my hardtail that i got for just £150 ? Garbage? 😂. I have tons of fun with my cheap hardtail tho.
Muhammad Lutfi did you get your bike at Walmart?
@@dakotawhisman no, it's from a famous bike shop in my city and actually from a good brand too
Muhammad Lutfi oh sick that’s a good deal
i got mine for free aha and i ride trails and its fun
What bike is it?
Most of what I've ridden on my HT has been rooty forest trails. Took a little time to get used to how jittery the bike can get, but it definitely feels well within the HT's capabilities. However, this weekend my buddies and I went on the road to ride at a mountain park where the trails are very rocky (many places similar to 4:17). About 800 feet in elevation change and one long 3 mile descent trail. Everyone in my group rides full sus. I gotta say that this was the first time where I felt like I was starting to push the limits of my bike. My bike is a XC setup, and anytime the rock got loose on the trail the whole bike started getting squirrely. I could handle climbing up and over rocks better than descending them, I think. Honestly, the biggest problem apart from bike control was the punishment on my arms. That long descent was literally the first time I've ever had to stop on a DOWNHILL simply because my arms were cramping up and I couldn't hold on to the bars anymore.
Either way, there's no denying that a full squish is going to have the upper hand on that kind of terrain. It was a real eye opener, but I don't think I'm going to get rid of my HT --- out of the dozen or so trail systems that I've rode, only two of them have really felt like they were bordering on being out of my bike's league. Besides, my HT always obliterates those full squishes on climbs :)
I'm definitely fun of both. Each one has it's own uniqueness to it. I love how rowdy a hardtail can be in a rocky downhill.
I have lots of each type but if i had to keep just one it would be a steel hardtail 29er with 130/150mm pikes.
Tough to beat that!
Yeah nice keepin it steel pho real.
I rode a downhill on 3 hardtails and one full susp and i would clearly choose the hardtail mostly because of the jumps
I will ride a hardtail until the doctor forces me to go full sus
I will force it.
@Matheus Barbosa LMAO
Me too dude! #hardtailsforthewin!
Change doctor?!
That's the right attitude 😂👌
Picked up my new 2018 giant fathom 3 hardtail yesterday so much fun
just picked up my Giant Reign 2 2018!! So stoked! Went from a Giant Talon ($500 hardtail) to $2700 full sus enduro and couldn’t be more happy! FULL SUS ALL THE WAY!
Clark Park So Rad!
Clark Park I’ve got the Reign 2016 and it’s a blast bro! Congrats 🎊
I did kinda thesame just this last week.. Form a Merida Big 9 Carbon HT to a Votec VE Comp, couldnt be more satisfied
Clark Park I can relate to u in about a month! I will very soon be upgrading from a giant atx 2 2017 (460 dollars) to a giant trance 3 2018 or 2019 (2350 dollars)!
John D it’s literally a whole new world. Your gonna love it. My bud has the trance and shreds like no other
Hardtail! I rode a Trek Stache today and it was an amazing bike! Never thought a 29+ bike would be so nimble and fast! Did a 4 foot drop onto flat ground and it handled it so well! Wheelies and manuals are so easy too on that bike! Please do a feature on 29+ bikes. I think they are the future!
Hardtail: I've only ridden hardtails. They are a lot of fun, easy to maintain and generally cheaper 😊
I ride a hardtail right now, but I'm going to get a Canyon Spectral soon! Super stoked about it!
I rode an hardtail for a year now and finally bought an full suspension and i found out that u can go way faster downhill because u have so much more control over the bike. I love full suspension but still drive my hardtail too
It’s who you’re riding with and where, not what you’re riding
@Adrijana Radosevic you have clearly never riden a trail or jump line
I proper love this Chanel, been here since last year, who else agrees?
I've never had a chance to ride a full suspension because of price they seem really good and my local track in n. Wales is full of full suspensions. I ride a Cannondale hardtail, it's mint. Getting air suspension fitted Saturday aswell. Wouldn't even fault it except squeaky brakes.
Seriously hands up to @gmbn👏
I got my brand new Hardcore Hardtail just two weeks ago (even been to the bikepark with it already) and i totally love the responsiveness and rigidity. Of course it gets a little bumpy sometimes But I think that makes it even more fun! Hardtails forever! 🤙🤘🤘
Hardtails are responsible for introducing thousands of people to mountain biking and they are amazing for learning because they actually teach you things. For example, it hurts to take the wrong or rooty line which encourages riders to develop their line choice skills. HT is the best beginner bike and will always be loved for the lessons it teaches us
Hardtail always. I ride a 275plus and it is like a 120/100 fs in many ways and it climbs great.
We need another hard tail week, still ride my Norco Sasquatch from 2004, no matter what I throw at it , it doesn’t seem to give up anytime soon!
ObiJ1K Yes! My 2010 Norco Bigfoot is the same.
Actualy i was test riding scott genius 720 and 920 and it was fun! I usualy ride more XC/trail hardtail so enduro full sus was big jump for me. (i was doing literary big jumps that day)
I ride a Ghost roket (aggressive HT 130mm travel)
I just love the simplicity and speed that you get on a hardtail. I regularly go on 60k+ rides with big climbs so I don't want to waste energy by compressing my rear suspension. I do however also really enjoy trail riding, and with the aggressive geometry a HT can handle all the trails in my Region. I'm also a student so I have limited emounts of money and a HT is just cheaper than a full sus
Can’t beat Blake and Neil, my favourites. Love you guys cheers for the laughs
I rented a full sus a few times, and it wasn’t enough for me to get one. My slack/aggressive hardtail. Seems capable (and really fun) everywhere.
We need another hardtail week and a endro week! :-)
I just got rid of my $6500 carbon full suspension 29er for an $1800 hardtail 29er. No regrets at all. I’m having a blast on the hard tail, I’m so much faster on my local trails than I was using the full suspension.
It's great when you find fun and speed out of unexpected bikes! Nice one!
Stevens Sorona SL- my 21 pound 100mm carbon XC that did a 30 foot drop and survived. Thus, it’s the best bike I will ever own.
I’m a former roadie/tester and only just coming to mountain biking in my early 30’s. As much as I wanted to go balls out and get a full sus, I went sensible and got myself a Merida Big seven 500. For just under a grand, I found I got a lot of bike for the money, and plenty of smiles per gallon! Really enjoying it and thought it was the perfect entry level bike to get me going.
Full sus was just too much of a change for me, it feels completely different and unnatural after riding road bikes for the last 18 years, but I’ll maybe consider one for my next purchase!
Right now i'm at a place in life where I can only have one bike. I decided to go with a hardtail for the versatility. It has 120mm of travel, XT kit, and 2.4 29in tires, so it can handle all but the roughest singletrack. But it's also super efficient and comfy while exploring fireroads at a state park. Or riding some local bike paths for a workout. One day i'll have a full sus trail rig, but for the time being it's my do-it-all bike.
I was dual suspension guy, but I have switched to a steel plus hardtail
I demmoed a Stumpjumper today, a Whyte not so long ago, on the trails around here and my skill level I felt the bits where I'd normally be popping a rock or small lump they just soaked it up, proper jumps I don't yet do.
So faster, but less fun for me.
I also tried an electric bike, turned it to 11 and with so much more engery in the arms and legs once I hit the downhills it was insanely fun!
Even the climbs became a hoot, constant switchbacks became a hill climb race with straights and hairpins
I have fun on both, but it mainly depends on where I am riding. Trail centres, I'll usually ride the full sus, but on my local trails, where I have more climbs, less extreme downhills, more XC, and the occaisonal road link.....the HT is hands down the bike i woudl rather be on.
I've never found a trail I cant tackle on either bike. The way I ride the trail may be different, but the limiter is rider skill not the bike.
But who cares, fun is subjective, ride what you want, neither is better or worse, they are different.
Genius of course, already have a Spark and love it. Will get a genius after getting some more experience.
I ride a fullsus and use to ride a hardtail and loved it but I love going down fast as possible and was always getting flats. When I got rid of my hardtail the second back wheel was almost square! May skills are better now and only ride flats now and loving it. Why is Neil carrying all the stuff Blakes cleaver!!!
Last year I jumped from was at the time a nice hard tail 26 to a full suspension 27.5+. I bought the bike with a 29” and a 27.5+ wheelset. Used the 29’s once and haven’t used them since. The full suspension 27.5+ is like skiing powder all day. I’ve never had so much fun on a bike. It is faster, smoother, safer, grippier, just flat out better. There is no question in my mind
I've had my hardtail for 3 weeks, I've just been to my local bike park for the second time today and I'm now doing small jumps on the pump track and the blue trails. Fuck yeh! I love MTBing.
I'm gonna do a progression video in a year or so. Got the idea from another youtuber who filmed his jump progression over 2 years.
You guys have given me so much advice with your videos. I still can't hold a wheelie for that long but I'm learning. Got loads to look forward to!
Thank you!
Demoed a full sus last weekend in the trail park - plush, quiet, poppy and awful climbing. Felt in control, stable and felt like i could push it a lot. Now, riding the same trails on my hardtail is a game of chicken with the trees, every descent an intense experience interspersed with moments of sheer terror and the climbing is tons better. Loved both and if i had the moneys i'd have full sus and ht days.
i have a giant atx and it is great for black or harder trails its a hardtail i feel you can feel your ride better
My Btwin Rockrider 500S 26er 2016 (used) costed about 120€ .The price is just a number. When I go out with my friends I dont even look at the bike or its quirks,but I get on well with my friends and the fun that Im experiencing so it doesnt bother me.
I got an AUD $400 (on sale and club price) hardtail a couple months ago and it is AWESOME!!! I'm about to spend about AUD $200 upgrading the tyres, grips and pedals so I can take it to the next level!!! One day I might spend $6g on a full sus but for now my hardtail is more than enough!!!
Got both. Secretly prefer my HT over that other water bed....which i love to laze around on every now and then. Then again i might feel differently in a few months. Both kick ass.
I’ve been riding my 29er hardtail for a good while in Japan and now in the Seattle area. I love my bike! It’s more about the trail and the fun than it is about the bike (even though I love my bike) if you’re with bad people you’re going to have a bad time.
as my dayly ride i have a fuji nevada hardtail,for my way to work (20km a day)and for quick rounds through the local woods.for the weekend rides on rougher terrains i use my focus vice pro full sus. hardtail or fully,they are both a lot of fun. @neil:the old black and grey genius looked sooo much better. nice vid,guys.
I'm brand new to mountain bikes. I'm pretty athletic and a quick learner so my body can do more than my Gary Fisher will let me do after only a couple weeks on it. Looking for a better bike and y'all gave the info I was looking for perfectly. Buying a hard tail now! Thank y'all. And howdy from Texas 🤘
Always astounded at the price of top end MTB's, almost as much as some impressive dirt bikes, which have engines !
More tech goes into MTB's I reckon. Don't find many carbon dirtbikes. Suspension design is more complicated because you pedal them etc.
I was just thinking the same thing. But once I watched what they do with these bikes. I started to grasp the idea around having high end equipment! I mean have u seen the speed and all the obstacles that they are zipping by? Just think about what might happen if ur fork or stem breaks. Or even a chain breaking could send u overboard! Equipment malfunction on a dirt bike, in u can probably ride it out or at the worst come sliding down the side of a jump. Obviously has its room and places of danger as well. But if something critical breaks on ur mtb, you're quite possibly getting tossed down a steep cliff, big hill and or eating bark off a tree with your face! This is a huge liability thing, the company has its name on the product that fails. So the rigorous testing and QC is at a much higher level than that of a dirt bike. Now I've seen some mtbs over $10,000! Tbh idt after u pass that 5to6 grand mark. That u are getting what u pay for, I believe the cost is more than the reward. Which usually relates to weight. Anything that can shave a few grams or pounds off of ur bike has got to be a very strong material bcuz ur thinning out the metal or going for a composite or carbon fiber etc etc. That's only my opinion. At face value it's absolutely unbelievable that there's bikes out there for over 2k and people are glad to pay it for reasons. I hope they come with a tracking/security device of some sort! Anyone who knows what that bike is and is shady, will look at that bike as an easy payday. I wonder if you can get insurance on it? 🤔
Just got a deal on a carbon full sus Kona, love it. Only reason I originally left hardtails was my knees are shot. Would quite happily ride hardtail but for them damn knees, getting old sucks
I ride specialized rockhopper expert hardtail 29er with a dropper post and so far so good, Back end does get happy when it's rocky but for around a grand you can't go wrong. If you had to had to spend a grand on a full sus you wouldn't get anything near the spec.
I just got a hard tail 27.5 given to me . It needs rebuilt . I so can't wait till it's done .
By base spec in order for me to have fun on a bike is that there is air in the tyres anything else is a bonus.
I ride a hardtail in mainly rocky trails, and yes, you are on the limits but at the same time it's way more challenging than ridin a full suspension because on the hardtail you have to pick lines and the other way you can go straight no matter what
I ride a specialized fuse comp hard tail and absolutely love it! It’s capable and super playful.
The Scout Comp has been catching my eye for the past few months. I think it is the only hardtail I could seriously consider. And it doesnt even take that long to save up for one because they are so affordable!
And they're awesome bikes!
Just this last sunday I was riding my hardtail chasing a guy on a full suspension. I was picking my lines, bouncing around a bit, and he just blasted straight through!! Game over, I went home and order a Canyon Spectral AL 6.0
I have both for different reasons. However, if limited to one bike, I would go with the versitility of the full suspension 27.5 +.
I just moved up from a hardtail to an 120mm FS, and I'd say it's not more or less fun, but rougher terrain more comfortable on an FS.
Trails near me are mountainous so 18 of my 20 years of riding has been on a HT (26 and 29). Personal opinion here but I think a HT really teaches you some finer points re' handling and control that you don't get with a FS. It's too easy to bulldog your way through with FS. Have yet to match the difficulty of trails on my FS though. That said, for control I have to go with my FS (27 five), zipping around the corners I can dip the bars with ease and the control I feel is noticeable. But... HT is lighter, quicker, great for exploring, long distance, bushwhacking, and of course climbing. Wouldn't want to give up either as they both have their place.
Another plus with the HT is it's easier to clean! ...a daily after ride ritual.
I ride a hardtail similar to the one Blake rode and it is awesome to shred my local trails here in Scotland and it is the most fun thing in the world (maybe because I have not riden many full suspension bikes )😀
Steel 130mm 29er aggressive hardtail with short chainstays is the dream! I tell that to myself, because I do not own or have the money for a full squish.
Love my hardtail but can't compare as it's my first bike but definitely agree it puts you out the comfort zone and forever pushing the limits :)
I ride a hardtail, I didn't have a big budget (£600) and I needed to ride it as my daily too. I bought a 2017 specialized rockhopper sport 29er new and it is really good, it is not the best for mountain biking for people who are really good but I haven't reached that point where I can't use all the skills I have got on it yet.
I've been running a beginner Trek hardtail for a couple of years and just built a full-suspension Santa Cruz bike. I keep telling myself why didn't I go to a full suspension sooner for our rocky Texas trails. Then again, I wonder how I'd feel if I had a proper-geometry hardtail with good components. Hmm...
Why not both? Bikes are like cats and potato chips. Nobody can have just one.
The older hardtail has a bottom-barrel Suntour XCM fork that just doesn't soak up any of the rock gardens and it's of the old standard (non-tapered) so I can't replace it with something nice; it also has very upright geometry not conducive to stability at speed. Maybe down the road I'll get a "nice" hardtail but seems like a moot point with my current short-travel full suspension.
I'm riding a Tallboy right now myself. Great bike, but when I want to go fast on buff singletrack, my Cube Reaction hardtail is the weapon of choice. Then I keep an old GT single speed around for crappy trail conditions riding. I recently upgraded the fork (1 1/8" non tapered) on the GT to a Rockshox Recon Silver. Made a real difference to the ride quality.
Hardtail..love it I used to ride bmx and had a rigid jump bike so I love the hardtail although full suspension I fi d to be a laugh for a bit but then I get homesick and want my rigid backend back.
I have more fun I’m rough technical bits on my hardtail than any other bike... really comes down to how you ride it. I feel more connected to the trail and I love the challenge of it. Full sus makes it too easy.
I have a PipeDream Hard tail and absolutely love it.
I've got one bike so I've chosen a Yeti Sb6 as it still climbs well and the part I enjoy it descends great and the rough sections are not a issue. I would buy a hard tail as a second bike
I ride a hardtail because a full suspension in my budget would not have the same value as a hard tail, but I would love to check out a full sespension and see how it rides l.
You can get cheap suspension bikes but most of them are only good for smaller rough sections for very aggressive stuff yea 10k chump change for a awesome most expensive carbon titanium bolts and shit for the lightest possible bike
Hard tail Trek Marlin 7 because it's simple, durable and budget friendly $800.
New peddles odi handles and some little bits and pieces here and there 😁
I always take my HT to local trails cause its OK to do so. When going further in a field i do take my FS. Having said that I actually ride my HT more.
I am looking for a new bike but I can't decide between full squish or hardtail. Hardtail: a second hand commencal meta HT race 2017(1000€) . Full susp: another second hand bike. I lean towards hardtail, but I don't want to make a mistake. Appreciate your feedback!
Javi Can’t go wrong with a hardtail, especially that Meta HT. Unless you want to enter a race with it. Just do the usual checks for dents and weld conditions (for metals obviously) and you’ll be fine. For a 2nd hand full squish, too much to check for. Haha maybe I’m just lazy. 😂
I just bought Meta HT and i love it. Been riding it in rough terrain too with lots of rocks and roots and it handled like a champ.
If you get the second hand full squish bargain him down a bit in case you need to spend a bit to get it reliable again (experience for the win)
Ive had a scott scale 960 since 2015, ride it loads, just bought a 2nd hand Kona Process 153. At the moment i`m still faster on my hardtail down most hills, and on a local 20 minute climb it takes me 24 min on the Process. Think i need some tougher tracks for the Kona, just feels slow and to calm! At the moment the hardtail still has my heart... that might change with time.
I ride full sus now I have the money to afford one but I learnt to do dirt jumps on a hardtail, it got me back into riding again and I still like to see them being rode at my local
I just bought my first full suspension today a Trek fuel ex7 . I love my hard tail though a Trek marlin 7 frame but all custom
I used to ride an XC hardtail on DH trails(not the best I know), was a Bulls King Cobra, and now I want to get into racing Enduro so I'm riding a Cannondale Jekyll 4 now
I just got a new full suspension bike but i used to only ride a hard tail so i love both so much i cant deciede
I think for learning how to ride a mtb a hardtail is the better choice because it is more difficult at times and rider gets more feedback. They are also cheaper so I'm on the hardtail side but full suspensions are cool, too.
I recently got a 1999 XCR GT susp premium 250 bucks haha 😆 coming from riding a hard tail I have only ridden a couple of times tho so the debate is still out. You guys rock the ride. I am 54 old female so don’t think I could keep up......oh well.... I do the best I can!
guys, i love the banter and observations. you know how spotting a line and charging it on your two wheel assault vehicle goes. do you think the hard tail finds a line then drives you thru it or does the full-susser allow you to make changes to the desired line? i ride both. i think that i make quick and definitive decisions on the hardtail as i am looking for a line that doesn't buck my backside into the next county. i can 'faff' on a full-susser; it forgive my rather poor choice of line assault.
Absolutely love the NP Scout. Totally going to be my next bike. Probably just get the £999 one though as I couldn't explain away £1600 to the Mrs!
I have a speedone destroyer w/DH triple crown fork 200mm boosted hubs 10x1 speed and i love it always make me win downhill races
Have a vitus29er hardtail for my first real bike only started biking a year ago did the redbull fox hunt 7 months after starting to ride loved it so got a full suspension sommet 160 travel 155 rear shock now that's fun
I go with a buddy of mine, I've got a 24" bmx, he's got a Kona full suspension and he gets mad when I out do him. I'm only lacking on the up hill and brake area. I've only got rear wheel squeeze brakes where he's got hydraulic on front and rear.
wow i was thinking that i need to pay a lot to a get a decent bike .but these 2 convinced me that they are insane just like the fashion industry some people pay so much for the same tank top i pay 2 dollars for and i got decent bike for 200 and 5 years still kicking with little maintenance . or less if you look second hand .
I have hard tail and I have an absolute blast on it anywhere I ride, but I haven’t had a chance to ride a full suspension lately, so it’s hard for me to compare
I have a carbon hardtail and a full suspension enduro, love them both, I think everyone should learn on a hardtail.
Totally agree marko!
I have a very budget second hand xc hardtail which is quite old (£450 new but I bought for £90) and I use it to ride trails but it is so much fun I can't imagine the fun I would have on a pure trial bike, full sus or hardtail
I have my roscoe 8 2020 and have the best time shredding with my mates
Full sus was a revelation compared to riding a HT. I have gone for a short travel FS to get the best of both worlds.