Expanding at OPPONENT's Third | BGMWSS #14
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- This episode is absolutely sick.
The challenge is called Thomas the siege engine, don't ask me why. All I know is that we had to contain our opponent on 2 or 1 base while taking their third as our natural. Absolute madness.
Next challenge:
you queue up a ladder game and say "hey if you leave 2 games against me you get 500€"
he will say "500€ that sounds like a really good deal"
so you say "yeah that is a really good deal"
and he ll say "ok 500€ i ll do it"
after he left one game dont queue up anymore
so he ll say "come on lets play the second game"
and you say "No im only gonna do one otherwise i need to give you 500€"
so he ll say "wow you got me real good"
and you ll say "yes"
hopefully they get angry then at the end you throw in three ads and tell us to smash like because that will feed you into the algorithm
also thanks for todays, yesterdays and the day before yesterdays wink
You are an abomination
Legend
Next challenge: Play PvP. Go mass air. Once 200/200, suicide your air army to perform that famous blink stalker switch. Tell your opponent that he should have got more immortals prepared.
I like the part to tell your opponent.
Btw for those who doesnt know, the pun comes from this video ruclips.net/video/kG34YLRj4jU/видео.html
Good idea
No bming in the challenges ffs
gotta say, that's the first "μg" I've ever seen...
*terran walks 3 feet to the left*
"oh he goes back to his base"
Well I've had this idea for a while now, I haven't been able to figure it out or test it but I'll throw the pieces at you and see if you can:
-Proxy Gate with Zealots to delay natural base.
-Forge at home for canons but a bit later, the zealots should go first.
-Proxy Robo for a warp prism.
-When the robo and prism are finished you jump on the main with the zealots and some probes, the zealots will defend the probes while they use the warp prism phasing mode to warp canons and bateries.
I'm thinking this could work really well because technically you can warp anywhere and leave things warping, then come back and repower them when they're done. But like I said this is just a very early idea, I haven't figured out anything about it other than the parts I mentioned. Not to mention I don't have the micro ability to do this yet, but maybe you can. :D
As for the video, this really reminded me of Maru vs Classic at GSL season 1 finals last year, one my favorite builds from that series :P
Amazing that such a difference of playstyle is possible at this high level! I really thought that at this level there is hardly any freedom or choice of action. That is why I never wanted to be better in this game. You opened my eyes.
He's still playing much below his level, that's why it works. A platinum player can do wonky builds against silver and gold players, similarly a top gm can do wonky builds against top masters and low gms.
SC2 is a very multifaceted game, so gimping one facet of your gameplay just reduces your overall skill by a bit.
Nice! Finally people suggested something that's actually quite playable ;)
23:10 - Harstem reacted in like a quarter of a second to select his warpgates at home after he saw the enemy dropship appear on the minimap. Insane.
Lol I didn't noticed that on the minimap. I thought he had noticed the medivac flying out from terran base at 22:40 and then calculated time to warp in stalkers on the main
I counted 36 frames at 60fps meaning 600ms reaction time at the absolute slowest, i.e. if he saw the first pixel of the dropship on the minimap.
was about to say the same, this is freaking amazing. I need to buy that minimap dlc asap!!!!
Yeah, he totally saw it flying out at 22:40. And the super measured response was amazing. He invested the precise amount of time and resources needed, exactly when needed. And in the 30s in between he just kept his cool and kept attacking WHILE STILL CASTING!
What a terrible name for this strategy. I've been calling it full court press, like in basketball, where you don't sit back and wait for the other team to cross the half-court line before engaging, but pressure them from the get go; make them earn every foot and deplete their expansions before they get there.
Thank you for showcasing this style and showing that it can work at the highest levels.
Harstem with the Stormzy bars feeding into the rap-interested youtube algorithms as well, truly a genius!
Perfect cam placement! So much information gets lost when people put their cams on the right panel.
If people really wants you to expand the size of the cam, you could grow it in that area as long as it doesn't occlude the selected units or highlighted buttons. Would look less pretty but we could see more of your cam without sacrificing functionality. Thank you.
Good thing Harstems head is so well suited for that space
Jesus The Astronaut haha nice
Congrats on getting your RUclips content creation certificate kev. Proud of you
I just wanted to tell you that I really enjoy watching your replays while I eat my dinner. I actually really get a lot from watching you trying wacky builds too! Sometimes I even discover things about the game that could potentially become a good idea in a standard build, like getting forges for upgrades making your zealots unkillable for enemy terran marines. That was an excellent build... I"m not sure about the blink stalkers with ups tho... too much gas... I think you need to go Zealot with charge, plus a few sentries for their shield (not the force fields) and then just have unkillable zealots with sentry shielding them against marines. That plus upgrade advantage is going to be stupid sick.
Sometimes I listen to music.
Other times I watch a cast or a game.
And since I've found Harstem, I can do these at the same time.
He's like a musical of Starcraft.
Next Challenge:You are not allowed to look at or use the minimap (Put a sticky note on your screen or something). Location Hotkeys are also forbidden. Bonus Points if you disable alert sounds so you don't know if your units are being attacked.
Little Kevin breaking out the Big Kevin strats :)
Next challenge:
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
Build a pylon at every location you attack. Not allowed to warp in via warp prisms. If too easy, no warp prisms allowed (for micro)
Next challenge: The floor is lava!
You're units are only allowed to leave your side of the map inside warp prisms :D
1) You may play defensively normally
2) You may unload your units on the ennemies side to fight, but you need to load back into the prisms to move (as soon as the enemy disengages, or if you want to disengage)
3) You are NOT allowed to warp in units on the enemy side/half of the map
Since I fear this might still be a bit too easy for you, I propose the final condition (up to you/other comments): Stargate units are forbidden (or stargate units may not be used offensively, so you can do some phoenix vs mutas or ranged lib harass). Maybe oracles for revelations (only) are legit so you don't fly 100 supply into a trap?
Curious how you would play this one out, with normal play but a lot more counter-attacks, or with some crazy 15 prisms ferrying your army around :D
That's an cool concept, but you'd have to be able to warp in on the other side of the map otherwise you can't reinforce quick enough and you'd waste too much money on prisms while not taking advantage of their key feature (the ability to warp in). There would never be a win condition because you just couldn't get enough units to the other side of the map fast enough to beat a GM player (especially if you can't use stargate units).
@@rthomp03 I feel like otherwise he can just get some more gates and break the entire concept. But I guess he can try without, and if it feels impossible, go with warp...
But the win condition would be playing like runby zerg: defend defend defend while slowly killing their eco with runbys (prisms)
Hey, what about a fast DT blink build. Open twighlight and asap start DT blink. Kill your Opponent with surprise DT blink. This should be possible and fun to watch.
I've seen guides for blink DT vs zerg to snipe a hatchery. It could be interesting to try it against another race.
"well we proxy oracle.. and then.. who tf cares, its fun from there on"
Cross promotion.
Blew my mind! ;)
the macro proxy stargate proxy nexus strat is genius 100%
that actually turned out to be pretty efficient and potent. Do you think you might have had more chance in game 3 if you had gone the Tempest route as earlier?
imagine quarantine in starcraft.
The Brood War noob plays vs AI build. Mass carriers and/or other air, and slow push across the map building cannons all the way. You might need to build random Nexuses in your push to recall to wherever your cannons are being attacked.
You must construct additional pylons: Drop several probes in opponents main and fill it with pylons. Protect these pylons with warp ins from the warp prism, or elevator some gate units and immortals after the probe drop. If it looks like it is working (how could this work?) consider a nexus to forward recall into their main with your home defenders, and start long distance mining your opponents main. IDK man this sounds stupid to me :D
Challenge idea: Black Sheep Wall. Win the game as quickly as possible with 90%+ map vision
i think the idea of this build was to play the really long game and eat the opponents mineral patchs in the 3 and 4th bases so you win economically even if they break out unfortunately we did not get to see such a game
LIVING ONN THE EDGEEEEEEEE! YEAHHHHHH!!!
Insane eco:
Your army can’t exceed 90 supply
Using the rest of supply on probes
For the next one: Double Nexus before Gateway
this is the slow tech down and die to all ins while also not being the most exciting idea
but id be down for it
challenge: You have to fully wall your main and natural asap. You are not allowed to open it at any time in the game.
I love watching this series hahaa
Amazing video Harsten
Also I like your taste in music! =)
can i ask what switch do you have on your keyboard? inspiring games as always, captain o7
lots of fun
Idea: You can only expand after you confirm that your opponent did.
Great idea against zerg
You win on 1 base^*
How about a "mirror units" challenge next time? Works only pvp. You are only allowed to build a which you have seen from your opponent.
Next challenge: next tournament you play, kill your opponents by winking.
I call it "death by a thousand winks".
Love the proxy tempest!
31:20 it's why i like the tempest contain, it's a proper contain. and who doesn't like tempest.
Absolutely no upgrades allowed challenge - not even warpgate
If this is too hard then you could allow weapons+armour upgrades, but no troop-specific ones
Damn I need to cheese more as Protoss looks so fun
Please do the 200 unit game again!!
Would you consider doing 5k to 6k with macro series? It would nicely extend existing bronze to gm materials.
Thomas the Siege Engine... I love that name, but see no connection at all to the challenge lol.
Got a new nickname for rts units now tho.
Nerf shield batteries
gg
I really wanna see your stalker disrupters. PvP could be easy but PvT and PvZ should be really fun and stupid.
Try playing mass gate units but with no warp gate
Liked
duh duh da da duh duh duhhhh
duh duh da da duh duh dummm
doo doo du du doo doo dooooooooo
Thomas the Siege Engine?
sounds like the russian version of the kids' show
gewd job
Lot of cheese. Yummy.!
For the next challenge of beating GMWSS play zerg! XD
But Zerg is OP, not stupid stuff. Maybe terran?
(jk)
wrr
Why don't they just send some marines into your main base :D
challange: after maxing out on an endgame army transition to different army to bamboozle your opponent! Example: after getting broodlords kill your broods and make bunch of lings or transition to bio after going mech etc. etc.
I christen this the "maximum bamboozilum" challenge. Or the "confuse a cat challenge"?
ruclips.net/video/1tsIxNci_dE/видео.html
Challenge: play like normal but instead of a warp prism you make pylons and use a building Nexus for the fast warp in
Florencio does that.
Congratz on the Content Creator certificate, what content do you create?
How about tempest, observer build. I can beat the AI doing this and Im almost 50! Im sure you would have fun against other players....like my APM is 45 tops!
APM < age. O_o Thats an accomplishment!
First! Love you Harstem!
Why do you oversaturate your nexus with probes?
Depending on the situation it could be for a plethora of reasons
Can make your base more resilient to harass. But most often you oversaturate a base so that you have workers ready to transfer to a new base once it gets built
Also adding workers over 16 still grants additional income
Thanks for everyone’s responses! So when you’re oversaturated you net more income than the 16/16 but I assume it’s at a slower rate?
@@tylerm2165 yes, basically to mine optimally you can only have 2 workers per mineral patch but a third worker adds additional income. However a fourth worker does not so it's more efficient to long distance mine at that point and you will want another town hall asap. Basically up to 24/16 mining adds more income.
For the next: You are only allowed to have as many production structures in total (gates, robo, stargate) as your number of nexus's is! GL and enjoy!
All I can think of is: ruclips.net/video/_MBgz9h7GGM/видео.html
its so annoying that you start humming the theme and then just loop it instead of going further
Would you consider making more content pranking your sister by asking her if you can smash 2 eggs on her face? Tell her that if you can, you give her €500. Then after smashing the first egg you hide the second and don't give her the money. LOL!?!? Good for at least 6 mid-roll adds.
thats a really cool idea, making my second channel as we speak