No more Disfellowshipping in Norway?!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Jehovah's Witnesses in Norway lost a major government grant due to their practise of shunning. And Antony Morris stated that they would never change this practise.
However... in a aplication from Jørgen Pedersen on behalf of the Jehovah Witness in Norway they stated that they are aware of the rules and that they will obey these rules.
Does this mean Antony Morris lied to the rank and file Jehovah Witnesses?
Or that Jørgen Pedersen lied to the Norwegian Government?
And if Jehovah Witnesses lied to the government to obtain monetary gain, would not this constitute fraud?
The legaislation that JW.org are violating is the §6 that states:'
"If a religious or philosophical society, or individuals acting on behalf of this society, commit violence or coercion, make threats, violate children's rights, violate statutory prohibitions against discrimination, or otherwise seriously violate the rights and freedoms of others, the community may be denied grants or grants may be truncated. Grants may also be refused or truncated if the community encourages or supports violations mentioned in this subsection." (translated by Goatlike Personality)
Jehovah Witnesses in Norway have now publicly stated that they will follow this legislation in the future. This would mean that JW will no longer practise disfellowshipping when this violate the human rights of others.
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It's so twisted that they demand all of these "religious freedoms" from the government for their organization, and then turn around and completely deny and punish their own followers over those same rights.
"freedom of religion is an oxymoron" ...a rapper i cant remember the name of lol
All cults or coercive controlling personality types behave like this, demand total freedom and lack of accountability for themselves but remove the freedom of others and demand accountability from them.
The constitution doesn't say "freedom of religion " ...it implies freedom from religion
@@ucanliv4ever Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Make no laws and free exercise thereof, that's precisely freedom of.
There's only a few words that can truly connect freedom with religion, and "from" seems to fit better than any other, you can be free from religion. The word "of" cannot be used to any real effect considering that the main goal of all religion is ultimately to deny freedom. Freedom of religion is just freedom for religious leaders to destroy our freedoms, but it's depicted as 'progress' by the ruling classes.
Anyone who wants power can only really have it by extinguishing everyone elses. Therefore, anyone striving for power does not, and most probably never will hold the interests of others as their own, rather ax an obstacle.
This law should be worldwide
It will be. There's a protest coming up in the US 🇺🇸 on October 31st 2023 at the WHITE HOUSE in Washington D.C. pass the word.
I agree. The governing body should live by their own Vow of Obedience & Poverty instead of taking everything from the members & living luxuriously off donations & owning rental real estate & having more come than is necessary like they require of their members. It’s such a deceitful greedy cult that spreads fear & hate.
It's Coming!
Be careful what you wish for...logically then it will be illegal to shun Jehovah's witnesses when we knock on your door
"This is actually huge because if Watchtower does indeed end the shunning policy in Norway, effective 2023. The question will be what about other countries with JWs around the world and it's impact?
How can an organization have one set of policy in one country and another set of policy in another?
This does not seem very harmonious per JWs claim of a harmonious world wide organization.
Will Watchtower produce future alternative publications, talks and lessons in reference of shunning for Norway exclusive to the territory?
If other countries are to keep the shunning policy. How will Watchtower move forward to hide Watchtower's comply with Norway's legislation?
Can this spark the beginning of the end for Watchtower as they may have to globally change their shunning policy?
Lastly, I detect inevitable New Light Coming! But is it from Jehovah God or The Norwegian Government?"
Can you imagine arguing with JWs about what came 1st New Light from Jehovah (GB) or Norway
Thought control, that's the epitomy of a cult.
I'm my own master they don't control my thoughts i think what want i built my own self
@@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb I'm glad to hear it, I hope it lasts, because WT are strict masters.
Governing Body: "Uphold Freedom of conscience."
Also Governing Body: Punish your children if they don't buy into this religion that you've forced upon them from day one.
Yeah, according to them:
Jehovah: "i shall give you all free will"
Also jehovah: "if you want to make it to paradise you gotta give up free will and become my puppet. "
the GB direct the worldwide Christian congregation like a slave, families are solely responsible from how they treat their children it’s a family issue. So this whole preface is Flawed. My question to this guy is : do you believe in Jehovah? Do you believe in the new world? If you have no faith then there is no future anyway. So whats the problem ?
@@ggaz4837 well the problem is that they're treating children poorly in the present. They're not reporting instances of child sexual abuse, they're insisting they won't take action against an accused member because of their own "two witness rule" and the GB is enforcing policies that endanger children. THAT'S the issue GGAZ4837
trust me. they are very adept at lying
In the Canadian Court as well. Their lawyer said they don't shun while under oath!
My issue with this is that Watchtower demand members to give up scholarships, jobs and other lucrative endeavors in order to devote more time to Watchtower’s benefit. But when it comes time for Watchtower to pick better it’s own rules and money, it picks money. That is a very bad thing.
People need to choose what is best for themselves because WT doesn't give a hoot.
I remember when they said Armageddon was going to come in 1975. They encouraged people to quit their jobs, sell their homes and give the money to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Unfortunately long-time witnesses rationalize this away and new members aren't made aware of it.
I wonder if thats why Morris got the boot, because he couldnt accept a softer shunning policy?
I was scrolling to find this one comment
I think Tony Morris got too comfortable with his love of scotch whiskey. Was publicly obvious that he was an alcoholic. He was covertly filmed buying 8-$900. of the liquor not long ago at an out of state liquor shop. He had to wheel it out to his car in a shopping cart. Self control, self discipline & balance with all things is healthy both mentally & physically. I learned only recently of their requirement to sign a Vow of Obedience & Poverty that members, ministerial servants, elders, overseers, missionaries & anyone that chose to pioneer but members of the Governing Body still live in luxury & draw outside income from rental properties, stocks & other businesses. Like Mark Stephen Lett owns many such rental properties in Alabama & since it has become easy to access public records he recently signed a percentage of not more than fifty percent of some of them over to his wife & some to a son & some to his brother, yet in classic contradictory fashion they abstain from shunning celebrity members that have continued to make fortunes publicly & quite blatantly break policies. It just has every evidence of a cult.
Or was it his drinking??
What do you mean he's not part of the GB ?
@@cruzingchamp He was fired recently (or he left by himself, we don't know).
They will lie to get money
Not lie. Theocratic Warfare. They are the same thing but not so because Watchtower said so. If that sounds like nonsense, I am just citing Watchtower.
So wholesome to see the care you show to your animals and the tranquillity you deal explaining these shocking infos.
Looks so peaceful ❤
Well, what do you expect from a cult that calls itself the Truth.
"This is actually huge because if Watchtower does indeed end the shunning policy in Norway, effective 2023. The question will be what about other countries with JWs around the world and it's impact?
How can an organization have one set of policy in one country and another set of policy in another?
This does not seem very harmonious per JWs claim of a harmonious world wide organization.
Will Watchtower produce future alternative publications, talks and lessons in reference of shunning for Norway exclusive to the territory?
If other countries are to keep the shunning policy. How will Watchtower move forward to hide Watchtower's comply with Norway's legislation?
Can this spark the beginning of the end for Watchtower as they may have to globally change their shunning policy?
Lastly, I detect inevitable New Light Coming! But is it from Jehovah God or The Norwegian Government?"
Can you imagine arguing with JWs about what came 1st New Light from Jehovah (GB) or Norway
@@anonymousprofessor8866
_"How can an organization have one set of policy in one country and another set of policy in another?"_
Read _Crisis of Conscience._ WT has no problem having dual policies if it benefits the corporation. Specifically, while WT was telling JWs in Malawi that they had to endure persecution to remain politically neutral, *at the same time* WT policy for JWs in Mexico was advising them to bribe local officials to avoid required military service.
Don't expect integrity from a hypocritical, self-serving cult.
@@anonymousprofessor8866 they allredy had many years now. For exemple about child disciplin, they sai in Sweden that bible verses about that mean not hitt or beat your children, it mean to do it other ways as speek whith them.
But in cantrys that alow it, they sai that bible verses about it mean hitt or beat.
"Go away ...I never knew you " -Jesus Christ
@@PCongeries Sadly many JWs will hear those words and be shocked.
Thank you Goatlike and helpers!
As someone who was marked by a CO for not being healthy enough to go to enough meetings, I have to agree with you Goatlike that they will still shun.
They could get rid of the word disfellowshipping, but everyone knows how to shun. When someone is 'bad' the news spreads faster than this Norway news did! Also, it is very easy to educate elders on not sharing shunning instructions via technology.
JW leadership is counting on the silence of those that left, obviously.
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
Children and adults should most definitely have the right to their own thoughts. Watchtower is dishonest so if they say they will stop shunning members, it's more than likely not true, so government should monitor them closely!
It’s not only more than likely, it’s definite that the wt is lying about this and so much more!!
It takes a law to force adults to treat children as humans
Yes isn't it hard to believe? To just be kind and nice.
Very sad
The damage they have done to so many people including me
Children and young adults are committing suicide and have because of what they have done to children and how scared they make them too
I know I was in it as a child
Our first mistake was believing that God has an "earthly organization" on this planet. The second mistake was believing that His "organization" was Jehovah's Witnesses 😔
They are probably going to rely on their favorite tactic of using different words, so they can say to officials "we don't shun" while saying to jw "we don't shun, we disfellowship". they act like it's two very different things when reality is they mean the same when it comes down to it.
Yep. Always word games and mind games.
Satan was first liar and everyone who do this is child of Satan.
❤ The Watchtower Corporation is very deceitful! They will do and say anything for money. Imagine signing a legal document that says you are abiding by the laws when we know for a fact you are not abiding by the laws of Norway!!!!
Thank you for your amazing videos ❤
Obey the laws - dont think so. How many of them break the speed limit, park where they shouldnt, avoid tax when can,...... sure the list goes on.
I agree with your statement Janitia,,,,,At a public talk I was attending it was stated "Jehovah's Witnesses obey all Traffic Laws". Obey laws? I don't thinks so either. Here are some personal examples,,, I was passenger in a vehicle being driven by a "Brother" in a 40 mph speed limit but doing 70 mph,,,,I should have demanded he stopped to let me out,,,,,,,,,A Van that I was driving, without my knowledge that had an 8 month out of date M.O.T (Owned by a Company that was run by Brothers) A Brother that habitually broke speed limits and accumulated 9 point on his licence, and was often too lazy to park legally and would often park illegally. A Sister that had received a driving ban and continued to drive whilst being banned....A Brother that was sacked for significant stealing from the company, he was taken to court and dealt with, it was reported in the local press,,,,,,,as you say the list goes on
Disfellowshipping is the core of the cult. Its what makes leavers return, and its what protects the maliable minds of those on the inside. I'm convinced Watch Tower will still practice it, just in a different way.
True religion should have dispellowshiping thats biblical
@@jakestartv5617 biblical or loving to cut off people's social structure prompting a mental health breakdown? Just to clarity. Cause it doesn't sound loving to me, maybe you've never experienced it so very difficult for you to understand the emotional and psychological effect it creates. Would it just make more sense to love people instead of cruelly disowning them? Just a question. Do you love your mother, your father, your friendships? Can you imagine them cutting you out of their life from one day to the next? Would you be able to cope, or would you like many end up taking their own life. Love is everything, love is God be God, not the Watch Tower.
@@Soufriere38 yeah understand how you feel because I've been dispellowship and I became X JW but shunning helped me to repent my sin and return to Jehovah God and now I'm reinstated and my life has meaning now... Try to repent and you will understand and realize that dispellowshipping and shunning is very good restriction that sinner may repent his/her serious sin. Rejection is just biblical. Do you wan't verse?
@@jakestartv5617 return to Jehovah or return to the Watch Tower organisation?
@@Soufriere38 Jehovah has always earthly organization since in the beginning no one organization has high quality of moral only Jehovah's Witnesses that's what I love here.
I didn't think it was possible, watchtower is speaking out of both sides of their hypocritical mouth at the same time !!
Yup. It's called "Theocratic Warfare", and WT is a master at it.
The rest of us simply call it lying on a massive scale.
Not only watchtower, Stephen Lett has been doing this for years 😂, has having seen him in action what prompted your metaphore 😂?
The shunning is not going to end. Not only this inhumane policy is their survival technique, but also it’s forming a culture.
So cruel and inhuman praksis!
They'll agree to stop shunning and then just ignore, lie and continue, it's not about policy with WT it's about the money and control.
@@yvonne3903 They will not agree that they are shunning people. WT doesn’t even think they are shunning people to death. It’s not that they will ignore or lie, it’s fundamentally they don’t even think they are doing these satanic things. That’s how terrible and how dangerous they are. Unfortunately that’s exactly how cult mind control, aka, undue influence works.
It’s about money and control which I agree, but what made that happen was the cult mind deeply rooted in their mind. It takes critical thinking to get out and they all throw away such important skill in order to join this cult.
I think you are right that the WT will eliminate disfellowshipping in Norway. That may be why Tony Morris is no longer a member of the GB. I can see him wanting to stick it out and fight Norway and the rest of the GB voting him down. Because he felt like it was a compromise he may have resigned in protest. Just a thought, I’m curious what everyone else thinks.
There is a protest that will be taking place on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the WHITE HOUSE. Their lies will be exposed worldwide 🌐. Pass the word.
I think they might end it when it comes to children. But I belive they are lying to the government. But hey… just send a email to jørgen
Tim-
Disfellowshipping is WT's most powerful tool to keep JWs locked into the cult. To abandon the practice would ensure WT's demise, as they'd no longer have that big hammer to threaten and control JWs with.
WT will continue the practice in Norway by simply relabeling it or making it _appear_ that disfellowshipping is no longer an official policy while secretly making sure all JWs in Norway clearly understand that shunning is still an official policy (that cannot be acknowledged publicly).
@@adamantiumbullet9215 I thought of the same thing. I think they will probably make an announcement to the effect of now it is a "conscience issue." So instead of it being an organizational policy it will be the individual members "decision." They will make some announcement from the platform and it will signal to the members that a person is now not a repentant Christian, or something to that effect, and the individual members will now shun him. And of course, if a person wants to be a good JW they will have nothing to do with a person that is quietly disfellowshipped.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 I don't think it will be a demise. It will probably usher in a huge amount of baptisms since many people do believe they are the truth when it comes to organized religion. Truth is, nobody knows the bible as well as the basic JW who is either new or just been around for a couple years. I personally think baptism will go through the roof. Shunning is what holds most people back.
They have just found a way to get around the law. Shunning will be a personal decision. But they will still find a way to have the rank and file to do it, it just won’t be so open.
Thank you so much for the info. It is truly eye-opening.
Your so funny! Great material! My family is from
Poland so I love seeing the Goat’s! You are very wise and education and know your stuff. I lost my mother due to No Blood transfusion 30 years ago. I was 6 years old along with my brothers twin. No brother or sister came here to our house to help raise my father- a polish immigrant in NEw York with 5 children. No where to be found. Thankful we are all out. I just got my dad the book by Raymond a Franz “Crisis of Conscience” in Polish! I pray for him to let go of guilt and shame brought on by this religion. He was also disfellowshipped many years ago. It’s a shame! May our God truly Reveal what this cult is about and May they lose all there funding from government and get caught for Fraud in Norway or anywhere else..//. God bless you Brother! Keep up the great work!
God bless you!
Nancy Rozewicz from New Jersey!!!
Hi. I speak very basic polish since my wife is from there. Its easy since I do speak one slavic lenguage already. (Russian). Glad to hear about your 5 syblings got out. Your mother would probably be proud of you (given the correct information)
@@GoatlikePersonality hello! Wow your wife was from Poland. Amazing! I was Ms.Poland 2003 representing NYC ! I was born here in NY so I am an Polish American:-). I have a friend from Norway. Her name is Luanne. She spent few weeks with me in NYC many years ago. Great girl.
However, I am so glad we can connect through you tube. Your teaching and content is so powerful. I truly let go of this religion. However, lately I have been so drawn to these videos because I feel like I have to do something to help others. This religion has destroyed so many families. I wish that people would realize this is not the truth. My grandparents were fanatics in a Poland till they died. My father told his mother before she died that there was No God in this Organization. no love was here in the house with his parents. Just abuse, ridicule, shame, and pride. I am so sad that after so many years my father feels the guilt of my mothers death. It breaks my heart. My father is reading “Crisis Of Conscience” in Polish now after ordering it for him. And he has been glued to this book. Sometimes I just wish the Organization didn’t leave him feeling all alone now at 72 years of age. The Witnesses love you until you take a stand and leave. It’s conditional.
Thankyou for your videos. I will subscribe and follow you. Keep up the great work! It’s admirable! God bless you!
Your father sound like a nice guy. If you want to support me on patreon with a dollar monthly you can do so. But liking the video and leaving a comment is more then enough
@@GoatlikePersonality sure will look into this. Thankyou. Will def help out how I can!
So sorry about your mother. This cult is one of the MOST evil. May they be banned by governments around the world.
Wonderful! Thank you so much! 👏🏻
You're so welcome!
@@GoatlikePersonality Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses?????????????
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
I hope Norway sees through at lies.
They wouldn't call it fraud. They would call it spiritual warfare.
Theocratic warfare alert! Looking forward to developments.
I am afraid so. But you can ask him directly
Keep shining and sharing. Love your work and dedication for children’s rights.
Thank you, I will
Norway really is paradise! Great work. Very helpful. 😊
But..
They helped Ole Biden take out Nord Stream🤔
North stream is in sweden and danish waters
"This is actually huge because if Watchtower does indeed end the shunning policy in Norway, effective 2023. The question will be what about other countries with JWs around the world and it's impact?
How can an organization have one set of policy in one country and another set of policy in another?
This does not seem very harmonious per JWs claim of a harmonious world wide organization.
Will Watchtower produce future alternative publications, talks and lessons in reference of shunning for Norway exclusive to the territory?
If other countries are to keep the shunning policy. How will Watchtower move forward to hide Watchtower's comply with Norway's legislation?
Can this spark the beginning of the end for Watchtower as they may have to globally change their shunning policy?
Lastly, I detect inevitable New Light Coming! But is it from Jehovah God or The Norwegian Government?"
Can you imagine arguing with JWs about what came 1st New Light from Jehovah (GB) or Norway
In the Montana Rape case The WatchTower argued the First Amendment (freedom of religion) and the right to make their own laws by the Governing body, which means those poor ladies that were molested and raped were just toys to play with and not real human beings, look it up.
Watchtower will be protested on October 31st 2023 in Washington DC at the white house. The cover up of CSA by watchtower will be exposed worldwide 🌐. Please pass the word.
They will never stop lying, cause Satan himself is riding this watchtower train
Its all about the money
Who is driving this "chariot?"
@@mattmurdock2868 the awfull and bastard slaves,
Don't blame Satan for the things Jehovah's witnesses and Christians do. If you still buy into satan or Lucifer as the boogie man then you might as well stay in Watchtower
@@badcooper235 jdubs are aint no Christian
Back in the early 80s they used to treat unbaptized associates including minors exactly the same as baptized, I remember the announcements at the congregation, I remember one mother whose daughter was announced to be shunned then shortly after when Watchtower was taken to court by some over the issue,behold, they had new light and she was told she didn't have to shun her daughter any more. The reason they have got away with shunning baptized members is by claiming that they can because in effect by becoming baptized you enter a legal contract but it is promising that this is now being challenged and with some success in Norway
What being baptized is now entering into a “contract” 😯?! And the courts accept to even hear this?! How fucking stupid can they get?!
IT'S AMAZING HOW RULES (NEWLIGHT) can change on a dime to suit them and then call it scriptural.
@@cruzingchamp
Not at all amazing, they just have to edit the scriptures (which are manmade in the first place), as it’s been shown that they did by certain exjw activists and what was once factual and true is now instantly “new light” 😂. After all, with god (meaning the gb), all things are possible, yes 😂?
Thank u for information on all this. I wish more people knew or cared about what this organization does to its “people”
Thank you Mr Goat like personality
You are welcome
Of course there lying
BRAVO and well done!
Lowwww class business men I'm falling off my chair! 🤑😱🤑😱🤑 Thanks from Quebec!
Beautiful red barn in the snow!
In the bible, nowhere does it say to shun members who have questions about Watchtowerland policies.
Great video
Well put together and hopefully this will help stop the shunning
Thanks
Cruel and unusual punishment such as shunning is a bad behavior.
Your home/land is very beautiful…yes, a paradise! Thank you for the information, as always!
Wonderful and beautiful place you have. The snow is so beautiful with nice big flakes falling. Such a dreamy beautiful area you live in!🙂 Absolutely gorgeous.
This reminds me of how back in the 80s or 90s the Watchtower told the government in Bulgaria they would no longer disfellowship anyone for accepting a blood transfusion. And at the same time they declared that anyone accepting a blood transfusion was automatically disassociating themselves. Or a few years later when under pressure I think in Australia, they printed something in the Watchtower that made it sound like voting was purely a personal choice, a conscience matter, and then immediately had the C.O.s make it clear that voting was still not allowed. They are masters of talking ou of both sides of their mouths.
Glad you brought this up as it was something that immediately came to mind and shows how they will tell a Gov one thing but in essence just carry on regardless (and with apparently no one checking and doing anything’s about it). In Norway for them it’s all about the money so they will pay lip service at best so they continue to get the hand out.
For WT, it's all about corporate policy expediency and financial profit, NOT actually adhering to their own supposedly Biblical edicts.
WT is the very definition of hypocrisy and flip-flopping.
Thank you for making this video.
They’ll just use the rumor mill to unofficially shun.
Good for Norway!! Shame on JW!
The Thought Police have spoken. 1984 is here already! I certainly wonder how they tell what people are thinking in the first place. I didn't know they were mind readers. Wow! I'm impressed (but not in a good way).
Well done for highlighting this issue, well researched, and all whilst feeding the livestock. Kudos to you!
What a great job on all of this !
Thanks for the informative video. Lets see what will the time reveal.
They would just say what we just quit talking to him and all this other BS they'll find other ways what a horrible organization I am so glad I'm out of there and hello from Indiana
How many faces do they have?? More than 2...!
Spiritual abuse is what comes to mind. I have researched this & it fits what they do to a "T"!
Good report, my friend. Thank you for watching out for kids, human and goat kids 🙂.
Awwwwwww, so nice & nurturing 2 yourrr( Goats ironically), because that's what they called ppl who were baaad😉😉👍
Glad to see you are up and alive …. I’ve not checked in in a long time … glad to see you are still publishing …I’m Minnesotan , Grandma from Bergen…… door is always open in case you need an American contact … drop me a line …
Lots of snow too here this year …
Best of wishes
Garrett
Everyone in America have a grandma from Bergen :-D Wonder what would happen if she had stayed
This is EXACTLY how I imagine the average person in Norway lives 😅 little red house and that style of clothing 😂❤
Its not far from the truth
Awesome video!!!
Thanks for the visit
"The laughter of our children will be our revenge" - Bobby Sands
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence with no exceptions.
I heard that Anthony Morris is not there anymore. They aren't sure exactly what happened but he is no longer in the governing body.
Please, can you put the official link showing this document ? Thank you.
You have to request it from the government.
That scene you are in is beautiful. Non adulterated by humans. Thank you for that beauty!!!
You are welcome
Thank you, that's fascinating ....
Glad you enjoyed it
I love Norway…Lived there for a while. Theirs is a humanitarian culture, so it’s not surprising that they don’t support an abusive organization like JWs. Interesting that pulling their funding is what prompted the watchtower organization to change some things. Let’s hope it’s a real change. And let’s hope it spreads worldwide.
Great work Goatlike Personality. This is a bomb🧨🔥
Good point ,shunning kids who are not baptised.
Once they publicly claimed ,they are different from established religion as they don't baptise kids.
Now they actively encourage kids to dedicate themselves.
Thank you for a very informative & quite delightful presentation. Must say I slightly envy you in your paradise on earth. I love your goats also & the patient way you care for them. You have a good heart. I am thankful to listen to you & see your kind face. I would so enjoy your presence if you ever decide to hop across the pond & wander into Tennessee. Would treat you to delicious home cooking & the beautiful southern music of both Memphis & Nashville. I live thirty minutes north of Memphis & have a daughter & son n law & nine month old grandson in Nashville. I very much enjoy your pleasant accent & hope you could understand my southern drawl. There were several policies of the JW’s that never felt right & I couldn’t get any direct scriptural answers to many questions like why Jesus gave the disciples the parable of the prodigal son & the shepherd who left his ninety nine sheep to go find the one lost. And how Jesus exemplified the caring for the needs of the elderly, the sick & the widows & not to exasperate the children but instead teach by example & patience. And how could the destruction of the family unit be Christian. It was one who claimed to be anointed that tore my family apart & sent my parents into depression & stressful grief. And tho I have been disfellowshipped since 1992, my firstborn son was never baptized but did attend meetings & assemblies & participated at meetings & in field service till he was ten. But when my son was diagnosed with terminal cancer & had only weeks of life left they refused to talk to him or pray with him. That expelled all doubt I had that they were Christlike at all. And it’s common doctrine that money is the root of all things evil, & yet they continually ask for more & more, but offer no food, clothing or housing for their members in need. Thank you & I look forward to seeing & listening to you again.
Maybe I will go to Utah for a protest. It would be fun to drive thru the US thou. Please remind me of your offer if you ever hear me plan a roadtrip thru the US
I thought I couldn't love ❤ Norway more, but I was wrong! Go Norway! Hopefully many more countries will follow their excellent example by affecting Watchtower Pyramid Corporation where it hurts... 💰💰💰Money=Profits!!!
Cheers from Australia! 🇦🇺
Anyone who has a farm will tell you it’s easier to take care of goats than sheep.
I dont know about that since I never had sheep. I think fencing is harder with goats
If you read about the scribes and pharisees, that makes one think of watchtower hierarchy! Their hypocrisy knows no bounds!
Authorities in Norway have threatened? Really, did they? No they simply said, follow the law and then the prerogatives will follow if you don't it's your choice but it has consequences. What a twisted and crooked half truth.
They can choose not to aply for money… the mormon church dont aply
Great content.
One request:
6:00 can you make a comparison to other UN NGO’s so as to give some context? I was shocked when i heard it myself, but when i wanted to share the point with others, i realized i had no idea what other NGO’s do
Just found your channel and you just gained a sub! Now I’m going to binge watch your videos
The Norwegian authorities aren’t stopping the JW doing anything though are they? They’re just not going to give them financial benefits if they do something that’s considered damaging to people.
Unless the Norwegian government have changed things.
It’s terrible the JWs try to make it sound like they are being discriminated against and people are trying to stop them holding any beliefs.
Exactly. The government are not stopping them from shunning… they are just not supporting them
Thank you
This reminds me of Rutherford who supported War War I in order to get out of jail; against Watchtower’s teaching. But he had no issue letting German witnesses suffer and die at the hands of Nazi in World War II following Watchtower’s orders.
Nice to hear you again👍
Great Job
Sending hugs from California ❤
Those are the best hugs
The Governing Body demands absolute obedience, and those who are not obedient will be disfellowshipped. It is a question they ask any witnesses who are questioning their leadership and the wrong answer will result in disfellowshipment. Their rules of absolutes fly in the face of Gods own command written in Psalms 146:3,4 -"Do not put your trust in princes nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish."
There wasn't a witness one that couldn't quote scripture and text by heart when I was a member. I guess in reality, it's basically an insignificant command from God to the organisation. Very strange.
Thank you for informative. Very good.
Glad it was helpful!
@@GoatlikePersonality Congratulation for activism. Let's go !
TO understand Gods work or words does not just depending on reading,or explations,,,,you pray from your Heart
I pray with my brain just well, thank you very much. Wishfull thinking is the base of all religions, including yours. They take confirmation bias to the lever of virtude. However, confirmation bias is not a virtude unique to JWs. Its a fallacy
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Love your work, keep it up,
People are so nice in Norway no need to shun ......so the devil has to pay up ..🤑🤑
They don't respect the law of the land. They don't want to put sex offenders behind bars or report them to the police.
That makes the Watchtower Society's Governing Body partners or accomplices in crime, whether they want to admit it or not.
Now I understand A Morris dismissal Lets take the money to hell with Morris and then we will lie just as usual
You are the most amazing apostate ever!!!!
I hope you are among my 144.000 subscribers
Problem is that Norway got couple cases in Brussel regarding depriving Parents of their children quite quickly.....!!!! Hmmmmm
The Watchtower Society will eventually fracture and splinter from within; new sects will form, but this will take time!
Lol that Norway money must have been in the JW Disneyland they building… i wish i was a JW in Norway right now… i’d be testing the DF lifting 😏 lol
someone should give a tip to their government of the fact their probably lying about changing their policy; such as those video clips in this video, and clips where they express its okay to lie if what is asked of is not favorable to the organization..
The goaties look clean, healthy and beautiful!
The legislature says "may be removed"-=. It does not say the religious protection WILL be removed from the organization. I certainly hope the government will step in....
Religious protection will never be removed. I think you missunderstood something. Article 6 is only states theat a registred religion must respect the human rights of others
The claims of those men being 144.000 is ridickulouss
Brilliant,thankyou
Glad you enjoyed it
my brother was DFd for army and never announced in claims USA government would ban us
Are you going to follow this info up by contacting your government to clarify in writing. With Watchtower, whether there will be no shunning or other human rights violation ?? Surely there will have to be more than just checking a box on a form in order to receive 1.5 million dollars! !! What do you think? 😊
I think they do this for strategicly reason. I do not think they are planning to obey the law. But if they lose every lawsuit, they can claim that they planned to change this anyway
Morris is gone now. They can say look we got rid of that member those were his ideas not ours.