The Forgotten Nazi Uprising in Chile (1938)
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- On 5 September 1938 Chilean extremists launched an uprising in Santiago de Chile. The party was named National Socialist Movement of Chile (Movimiento Nacional Socialista de Chile), in short the MNS, and its members were named Nacistas. Of the founding members some of them had closer ties to Germany. The leader Jorge González von Marées had studied in Germany. He named himself 'el Jefe' (the Chief). On 5 September armed MNS men took over the central building of the University of Chile in downtown Santiago. Another group occupied the Workers' Social Security Building, right next to La Moneda, the presidential palace. They were soon overcome by the Chilean military police and shot by the Carabineros in what became known as the Seguro Obrero Massacre (or: Matanza del Seguro Obrero).
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- Nationalist Movements and Fascist Ideology in Chile (Jean Grugel) in Bulletin of Latin American Research, Vol. 4, No. 2 (1985), pp. 109-122.
- A Case of Non-European Fascism: Chilean National Socialism in the 1930s (Mario Sznajder) in Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 28, No. 2 (Apr., 1993), pp. 269-296.
- A History of Chile, 1808-2002 (Simon Collier, William F. Sater).
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Did Germany have an embassy in Chile? What became of the German diplomats after the declaration of war?
@@JG-tt4sz not sure. In case of war they would be expelled. To where I don't know.
@@JG-tt4szChile solo le declaró la guerra al eje especialmente a Japón ya terminando la segunda guerra mundial...siendo el último país del mundo ..1945 .
@@JG-tt4sz Chile never declared war on Germany, only on the Japanese.
We called it in Chile the “Masacre del Seguro Obrero”
Thanks for sharing.
mmm its called "La matanza del Seguro Obrero"...
Exacto !!
En Chile hubo muchas matanzas de obreros ...muchas ocurrieron en el norte de Chile ..
@@mauriciocastro2601nadie esta negando eso … acá se esta hablando de un evento específico .
Almost 12 years in school and not once did they taught me about this. And I hear it from a Duch teacher lmao. Thanks for putting the sources in the description btw.
Estoy de acuerdo. En mi caso recuerdo que ni siquiera mencionaron que eran nazis. Como que le quieren echar tierra encima a esto Saludos!
Ask more questions bro 😊
Sad. In my time, when I finished the 12 years, 2001, we must studied chilean history if you wanted go in the university, the PAA examen required it, especially if you wanted study humanities or human ciencies or Right. Maybe in the schools this was explained in general, with a little of descriptions, but, if you needed a good exam, you prepared with several books, very popular in this times. Today there are less chilean history, because the goverments needs a citizen without roots.
@@cesarvidelac --- CORRECTO . . . Es que la iglesia y la gente decente no pueden ser expuestas como vendepatrias; bueno, pues, es decir. . . .
@@cesarvidelactécnicamente eran “Nacis”, no Nazis
Hi! Chilean here, very well explained! I remember researching this for a school project and I was surprised of how little known this event is. It's certainly bizarre (Nazi coup attempt in Chile is not the first thing that comes to mind when discussion fascism), but also fascinating.
I remember researching this in the context of police brutality, considering most of the Nacistas were young in age and executed without a trial.
Thanks for covering this! Come visit us in Chile anytime!
Many thanks for your reply. Happy Easter.
I’m also Chilean and It brings back memories of when my grandfather told me about it and it was really a massacre that happened in the Seguro Obrero.
Thanks for sharing.
Learned something new about Chile today.
Thanks.
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Great idea to go beyond the 'normal' history and examine and explain something that I knew nothing about - and I taught secondary history for 45 yrs. Thank you very much and keep up the great work.
Great to read. Many thanks!
My grandmother remembered those times here in Chile. The aftermath of the failed coup d'etat was a massacre as stated by Stefan, and she witnessed the aftermath of the massacre. As for the pro-Nazi movement, it was very present, and later the Falange succeeded the pro-Nazi elements and went on to foment and promote several rumblings of attempted coups.
The chilean falange didn't supported future coups, at least until 1973, because this movement only had the same name to the spanish falange, but they are conservatives involved in social christian ideology and with the time become in a reformist popular movement of left center. In the fourties they changes his name to Christian Democrat Party.
My grandmother also remembered those days, and she even knew a few words of the Nacistas anthem! 😂
@@oscarhuenchunao639 "Vamos chilenos a la acción!"
@@e.e.2282 la falange nacional fue un partido nacionalista y del sector patriótico hasta 1945. A partir de ahí se convirtió en simple democracia cristiana.
Falange nacional tenia unos 20.000 militantes.
My grandfather saw all these events from his office window. He worked at the Caja de Crédito Prendario (Pledge Credit Fund), right in front of the Caja del Seguro Obrero (Workers' Insurance Fund), where the nacistas entrenched themselves.
More than for the political motivations of the uprising, the event is remembered for the mass murder committed by Carabineros, and is called the "Seguro Obrero Massacre." In the end, the "nacistas" were few and irrelevant, and if it weren't for the massacre, surely no one would remember them now. Arturo Alessandri was a tremendously impulsive and violent guy. He once slapped a police officer because he had not cleared a parking space for the presidential car in time. His son, also president Jorge Alessandri, never married or had children, so two rumors circulated; that he was homosexual or that he was impotent because of a kick in the testicles he had received from his father. There are also witnesses who heard Alessandri shout out of control "Kill them all!" I cannot affirm it with the certainty of a historian, but it seems very difficult to me for a simple police general to order the shooting of 60 people and finishing them off with swords 20 meters from the Government House without an order or approval from the president.
After the event, the press was censored and there was no investigation. Even the Carabineros Hospital is named after General Arriagada, who ordered the massacre.
Chile never declared war on Germany! It only declared war on Japan, almost when the atomic bomb was already falling.
Thanks for sharing this.
As a fellow Chilean, I actually learned a lot with your comment! Thanks.
@@HistoryHustle If indeed Chile only declared war on Japan and not Germany and Italy, shouldn’t you update this video? That being said, I am a Chilean-American and I very much appreciate you teaching the planet about what happened in South America during an important period of our history, thank you!
Great video. South america is scarcely mentioned in most channels with most commonly known events so such a series is a true gem
Glad you appreciate it!
Acá en Sudamérica pasa lo mismo especialmente en el cono sur donde vivimos nosotros los chilenos solamente tenemos conocimientos de los países hispanohablantes no tenemos ninguna cercanía con otras lenguas porque el continente americano salvó Canadá y Estados Unidos son los que hablan en un idioma diferente entonces nuestra cultura es hispana y nos enteramos solo de situaciones hispanoamericanas
I’m from Chile. I remember being taught this at school. One of the things my teacher said was that the president was calmly walking with his dog when an officer told him that these nazis captures that building. The president wasn’t on a mood so he just said something like “Just kill them all (plus some cursing)” but not literally, he just meant “do your work and leave me alone”. Then the military proceded to kill them all. I don’t know if that’s true but it’s still interesting if true
Interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.
Chilean history is very interesting. Too bad the educational system seems to think Chilean history starts in 1973.
I see! In the future a video about 1973 and after will be uploaded.
El sistema educacional chileno está completamente contaminado con ideología de izquierda.
I live in Chile, amd I thank you for this report. Both Von Marees and Carabinero General Arriagada were convicted in their roles, but later received pardons. Chile did not declare war on.Germany but only broke diplomatic relations and seized assets of certain German businesses (Chile did declare war against Japan)..The massacre in the Seguro Obrero buillding was one of the worst violations of human rights in Chile's history
Thanks for watching.
Hey! I'm a history teacher in the US, and the subjects you cover are events that I've been interested in, also. I just wanted to say thank you for making these videos. They are very informative, prescient and necessary. Proost!
Many thanks for your reply!
Hi!!! A Chilean here, as a recommendation a good place to find more information about the History of chile and the more context of that era it’s “memoria chilena” a web page of our national library!
@@martinignaciolopezguzman3921 Thank you very much! I'll check it out.
Hi, another Chilean comment. This episode of our history is little known. I myself learned about it at the University, when a right-wing teacher told us about it. Later, in the 1990s there was a TV report about the Matanza, done by Informe Especial. More recently (2017) a book by Chilean journalist Emiliano Valenzuela was published, titled "La Generación Fusilada".
I think this video is very accurate, and I'm suscribing to your channel. 😊😊
Great, welcome to the channel. Hope you have seen the Chile WW2 episode also👍
In the Cementerio General there is a monument for the martires of this matanza, it includes a letter of one of the youbg boys explaining his mother the reasons for him to join thesss movement. ;) Great Video btw
Thanks for watching.
The chilean nazi party had 3 diputados (representants in the Parliament) and the 3,6 % of the votes of the all in his best moment 1938. After the failed putsch, for the presidential elections, they supported the candidate of the popular front in revange of the liberal goverment of Alessandri, and his candidate Gustavo Ross. In the other side, Aguirre Cerda, a radical (center left) won with the votes of radicals, socialist, comunist (popular front) and "nacistas", the ancient enemies. The nacistas were chilean nationalists and they broke with some hitlerian nacistas. After the war some ex nacistas were importants, like Guarello Fitz Henry, a lawyer that worked in the declaration of the 200 sea miles (Declaration of Santiago), with Perú and Ecuador. The politics in Chile in the age post 1938 until 1973 was nationalist, in the right and left side, in the sense of to protect the national resorces and the little national industry, with huge taxes for the international trade.
Eran unos 20.000 militantes. Lo que sucedió es que algunos de sus líderes y seguidores cambiaron de chaqueta después. Como von marees,que se pasó a las ideas de la derecha liberal años después. O el que tu mencionas,que me parece que se volvió democristiano.
One of my relatives was among this group. My great-grandfather arrived in Punta Arenas from Hamburg.
Interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.
As always, it has to be someone from abroad the one who teaches us some forgotten own history.
Great job, man.
Thanks for your message!
Greetings from Chile! I never learned about this in school (during the Pinochet years) and I only found out about it many years later. There are so many episodes in our history that are not widely discussed or even mentioned in most local history books! 👋🏻
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Pinochet years= Dictatorship!!! Usted dígalo bien
You did it again!
Thanks! It's always been interesting to know about my country during WW2 and how the political groups acted. You have die it very well!
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Very nice to read. Thank you.
@@HistoryHustle By the way. I meant "done" instead of "die". Wasn't my intention, only bad grammar.
i did not know about this at all, great work from you. Salutations from a Chilean living in Germany 😂
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As a chilean, all this is new to me. Thanks for teaching me about my own country.
Again, Thank you so much for your videos!!!
Thanks!
Another Chilean here! Just a small addition: one reason the Nacistas believef the army would join them was because supposedly they had on their side a retired general that would gather support for the coup and march into the capital to assist them. They were supposed to be just an initial distraction/signal for friendly troops to revolt.
But when the coup started, the general banished and was unreachable
Edit: My bad, it wasn't a retired general, but a retired colonel called Caupolican Clavel Dinator
Thanks for sharing.
In the most pure style of what military leaders tend to do, they promised them thompson smgs and support, but as soon as they saw how small of a group they could gather, they just dissapeared, let their "boys" be slaughtered, and negated any and all involvement in the coup🤣
Not the military but the "Carabineros", and I'm sure the general you are talking about is "Carlos Ibáñez del Campo" who was the Commander in Chief of the Carabineros de Chile (Militarized Police).
@@CamaradaPatriota you got it all wrong. Ibañez was a colonel of the army, he never led Carabineros de Chile, but was the guy that founded the institution. I was refering to the contact with Caupolican Clavel Dinator, who I was wrong in saying was an exgeneral, but was instead a retired colonel
@@javieraravena5345 Oh yeah, I thought you were talking about the Ibañez's Carabineros support when they were expecting it on the Seguro Obrero but never arrived.
Or maybe the General Francisco Javier Díaz Valderrama.
My family migrated from Germany to Chile. Then from Chile to Australia. This was a piece of history I never learned, thank you for explaining it.
Thanks for your reply.
Great investigation. Great video. To know our chilean history is needed. Thank you, my friend.
Thanks for your reply Jose!
I'm chilean, to my knowledge, very accurate. Congrats and thanks to take out parts of our history that wants to be erased.
Thanks for your reply!
Excellent video,Stefan!
Thank you Carlos.
great video. cheers from a Chilean
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Wish to thank you for sharing your video lecture on this semi forgotten episode. This young generation of Americans are extremely ignorant of Nazi/Fascist rebellion that occurred 1930's Chile. This occurance is largely ignored in The United States,which in my opinion, is short sighted. Once again thank you for producing another brilliant video lecture on the subject. I am looking forward to your next video lecture.
Many thanks for your reply Fred!
One very telling aspect of this event was the lack of support in any form from Germany and the NSDAP.
It should never be overlooked that Hitler was extremely suspicious of overseas versions of the NSDAP.
In general Nazi Germany was reluctant to say the least when it came to supporting overseas versions of National Socialism.
Also, as you poInt out, Chile did not want anything that could possibly encourage a coalition of others, notably Argentina, Bolivia & Peru. All of whom they had territorial issues with.
Eso es porque von marees demostró no ser un auténtico ns. Criticó a Hitler desde 1937,apoyó a la república en la guerra civil española...
I think thats not because Hitler disliked chile or the movement there. I think its just because National Socialism has no international goal like Bolschewism or Marxist Socialism which aims for world revolution.
@Ratselmeister No it was more than that. Hitler never trusted foreign national socialist parties. Certainly the NSDAP was very reluctant to supply support or financial aid. Even when it was really in their interests to do so.
Also, Von Maares dissociated himself from the NSDAP because he rejected any kind of racialist thought in his own corpus. In his vision, the Nazi racial thinking made absolute no sense in the reality of Chile and Hispanic America.
That's why nobody here in Chile calls them 'Nazis' but 'nacistas'. In practice they were both different kinds of movements, the only thing in common is that both are fascist movements.
South American fascist movements before the cold war are a very interesting topic. They're different beasts compared with their European counterparts.
The building you show behind you at 0:15-16, was formerly the Hotel Carrera, but is now some government offices. There was (is?) a swimming pool and an open-air bar-restaurant on the roof and we used to go up there, drink, eat and enjoy the scenery decades ago while guests (many times) at the hotel. The bar and restaurant downstairs, adjacent to the lobby were 5-star venues, even with live music in the prime hours. I experienced two earthquakes in that hotel. The staff had to clean up the lobby floor underneath the grand mosaic artwork above the check-in desk after one of the quakes. The building's guest elevators still had live operators/attendants through the 1980s, as well. A beautiful place, it was.
Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting to read.
Hi stefan, great video again. Can I know what countries you are gonna visit next?
Now in Argentina. Next Uruguay and Brazil.
Stefan, thank you so much for teaching this side of history!
Have you had a completo italiano yet?
Thanks. Completo Italo?
@@HistoryHustle A completo italiano is a hot dog with smashed avocado, mayo and diced tomato (green, white and red like the italian flag, hence the "italiano" part). We tend to call all hot dogs "completos", but originally completos were hot dogs with sauerkraut, diced tomato and mayo.
They are relatively cheap too! between 1.600 to 3.000 CLP
This was known in here as "la Matanza del Seguro Obrero". Thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching.
Very interesting material, as Chilean is always a pleasure to learn some less known aspects of our culture.
Thanks for watching!
You omit many parts such as that the Nazis supported Pedro Aguirre Cerda and that Gonzáles Von Marees was arrested and then released by Pedro Aguirre Cerda and the same Nazis gave him their greeting then the Nazis supported the creation of several services such as Corfo itself and its Variants Agraria were government in 1958.
But is good resume
Thanks for sharing.
Agree this should be part of the video
very informative.
Thanks for watching.
Muchas Gracias
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Thanks. I have some videos on Colombia too 👍
Chilean here! Great video! Came to refresh my knowledge of this event after seeing it in my feed. It's interesting to see the influence of German military on our country, to the point it could be said that this was just part of the Nazis operation here. Years later there were officers and their decendants through-out the whole power (Economic, Politic and Military), where Dictator, General Pinochet, and his council received instructions from them on intelligence, torture and propaganda, as well as recent Parlament represants (Republican Party, UDI and RN) like José Antonio Kast (son of Michael Kast, Nazi soldier) who has run for presidency last two elections. Keep up the good stuff! I'll check your video on Argentina next!
Thanks for watching!
Interesante reportaje, poco conocido el caso del nacismo en Chile (por contra siempre suele ser Argentina más implicada) drástica represión la del Cuerpo de Carabineros de Chile.
Thanks for watching.
Se dice paco
My great granduncle was caught in the Middle of Massacre (he worked as a clerk) but survived
cool story. Thanks for sharing
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"La matanza del Seguro Obrero" was definitely a topic that we studied in School in tercero medio early eighties. In fact, a cousin of my grandfather died there, Hugo Badilla Tellería, 21 years old (RIP). His parents, doctor Plutarco Badilla and mrs. Romelia Tellería fought bravely in the media and in court to bring justice to the case. Their efforts elicited the self-exile of Arturo Alessandri.
Interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for this interesting documentary. I have been interested in this topic in the past and have struggled to find reliable information. I believe it would be a great legacy for our country’s history to have a well-documented account of this fascinating chapter. In fact, I think it explains the mindset of some Chileans.
Thanks for your reply!
Do a video on Miguel Serrano, hes also from Chile
Not anytime soon.
@@HistoryHustle Nor you should, thank you.
Hi! A chilean here, Nice vídeo, very complete in arguments and information, the perfect summary of a very confusing era. As a opinion I would have talked more about the socialist/comunist popularity in the lower classes of chile in that era, and the eventual adoption of fascism marketing and organization for some political partys in that decade (as for example the party “Democracia cristiana”. Greetings!!!
Thanks for replying. In the future I have a video planned about the shortlived socialist republic in the 1930s.
No era antes Falange Chilena?
@@musicapoliticaysinletra era la falange nacional. Tenia unos 20.000 militantes en 1935. Fue un partido nacionalista y del sector patriótico hasta 1945. A partir de ahí se convirtió en un partido democristiano.
@@danielmelenchoncarrasco1427 claro.
Hey Stefan, daar was je sneller dan Mark Felton die ook vaak zeer onbekende WW2 dingen laat zien.
(Hey Stefan, you were quicker than Mark Felton who also often shows unknown WW2 things).
Dank! Zou gaaf zijn als Felton hierover een video zou maken, maar wellicht iets te niche voor hem. Zijn focus ligt veelal op Europa en de VS.
Excelente video de un pasaje de nuestra historia.
Gracias 🇨🇱👍
Very interesting again. Knew nothing of this 👌
Thanks for watching!
ich komme aus Chile, derzeit wohne ich in Berlin. Wenn ich der chilenischen Geschichte die deutsche erkläre (besonders über die deutschen, die in Chile leben) sind sie immer total überrascht. Danke fürs video!
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Hi Stefan, Happy Easter Or Passover to you and your family! 👋🇺🇲
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There's a book by Carlos Droguet (who's a big name in Chilean literature about it). He was close to the events and it's a really good readint
Thanks for sharing.
I love the topics of your videos
Leyendo comentarios hay personas a las que no les enseñaron esto. Pero recuerdo perfecto que a mi si, es la matanza del seguro obrero y hay una placa afuera del edificio. Cada aniversario hay gente que les deja una corona de flores.
Interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.
I am 70 years old and have never heard of this! I'm lucky the teachers actually taught American history!
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Thank's Stefan for documenting this little know, yet interesting, part of my country's history. What was von Marées fait? If you said it, I didn't catch it. I assumed he was killed during the uprising.
I was born in Chile and my grandfather was a Carabinero. He was a sergeant at the time of the Seguro Obrero massacre, he was posted at the main Comisaría in the northern city of Coquimbo. In times of emergency, he became the secretary of the Jefe de Plaza, or City Commandant, so he was privy to all communications between the political, military and police commands. When the uprising happened, all police were placed on maximum alert and all armed forces were recalled to barracks. I was reading about this when I was a kid and, when I asked him about it, he said that many thought the execution of the young nazis was an overreaction, but the police were not in a position to disobey orders and, besides, the order came from the highest government authorities. The President, it was said, was watching the proceedings from La Moneda palace and he was outraged that these young men would dare try to depose him and wanted a deterrent to future coups d'état. There were some incredible survival stories though, of men with multiple bullet and bayonet wounds not only surviving, but making a full recovery.
Somebody must've put them up to it, because I doubt they would've tried (unless they were incredibly stupid) without an absolute certainty that the armed forces were going to join in the coup.
Very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing this.
Zo, jij reist lekker de wereld af. Maar, het is je gegund. Leuke manier om minder bekende geschiedenis onder de mensen te brengen. Mijn oude geschiedenisleraar kon dat ook heel goed. dat was 1 van de redenen, waarom ik dit vak gekozen had voor het eindexamen. (had ooit een 11 gescoord voor mijn toets over het 'Oude Egypte' omdat ik de bonusvraag ook goed had. Nog daadwerkelijk meegenomen in de eindcijferlijst.) Thx again.
I´m learning more of my country history here than all of my years in school!!
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Outstanding
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Loving the haircut. I have one very similar!
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Another wonderful historical coverage video was shared by an amazing ( history Hustle) channel introduced by 🙏Sir Stefan..video about Chilean 🇨🇱 Nasicta uprising 1938 .It's previous creation before that failure revolt. Thank you 🙏 for sharing
Many thanks once else for your reply.
BR
Tragic, but very interesting story.
In Brazil we had the Brazilian integralist action (AIB), equally fascist-inspired, but with some black members in its ranks (the history is complex as always).
After the coup that occurred, if I'm not mistaken also in 1938, by Getúlio Vargas, the integralists and their leader Plínio Salgado hoped to have some participation in the Government. Instead his party was also dissolved, like the communist party :/ So they tried to carry out a treacherous coup, trying to invade the Palácio do Catete (government headquarters), but they had to face the Palace guards, the police 🚨, and God almighty 🙌.
The Coup failed, some members were executed, Plínio fled the country to Portugal, returning after redemocratization (in 1946 I think), and during the military dictatorship of 64 he was one of the deputies and supporters of the dictatorship.
Loved your video really informative, i would like to know what were the consequences to our initial neutrality. Cheers dutchman 🍻
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from stgo, Chile !!! thank you very much for teaching our history, good video! (chilean: está de choro el video compare) , in
In 1945 Chile declared war against the great empire of Japan as well. Good night!
I'm chilean and I never heard of this story before
Thanks for watching.
Bedankt
Bedankt voor je donatie👍
Hello, very good video, I don't know if on your journey you were able to see that in the workers' insurance building (which is now the human rights building) there is a commemorative plaque in honor of the fallen of '38, all their names are there.
Thanks and yes I saw it.
Heel erg interessant, ben geboren in Chili maar woon al heel lang in Nederland. Wist wel dat er Nazis in Chili zaten maar niet hoe veel invloed ze hadden!
Dank! Zie ook mijn video over Chile during WW2.
I thought Chile only declared war on Japan. Diplomatic relations were severed with the Axis countries sooner though.
Thanks for sharing.
Chile tried to stay neutral, however the USA kept on putting extra pressure, especially knowing that diplomatic relations with the Axis were good. By the time Germany’s downfall started, they broke ties (The Ratlines show this wasn’t that true however)
Hola saludos desde Perú
Buen video broh
Te recomiendo hacer un video de la Unión Revolucionaria de mi pais, y de su lider Luis Miguel Sánchez Cerro, admirador de Mussolini y primer presidente peruano no blanco. Lastimosamente, también el último en ser asesinado, el 30 de abril
Not that much info on it to find. Won't make such a video anytime soon. Perhaps a short.
@@HistoryHustle gracias de igual manera. Te recomiendo buscar en Internet Archive
One of the craziest events was González von Marees firing his gun inside congress.
Bizarre..
A different time.
Great video.
La masacre del Seguro Obrero.
Yes.
I'm not Chilean but it is always interesting to hear stories like this that we don't hear due to them happening on the other side of the world.
Thanks for watching.
Amazing facts
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Interesting!
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Thanks very much! It's a really good account of what happened at the Seguro Obrero, episode which we still remember and remains shameful for us Chileans.
Thanks for replying.
There was one in 1974 to if i remember rightly. Mrs Thatcher was an enthusiastic supporter of their leader
You mean 1973?
@@HistoryHustle probably , ot was all a very long time ago !
Chilean here. I have read about this event years ago. I think they have a monument somewhere in Santiago, but I don't think nobody who lives close to it knows about what is such monument. Or could be the monument was take out of that place. As I said, I read years ago about this story.
Thanks for watching.
A very interesting what-if scenario. If the uprising was successful, how would Chile have an impact in South America and the world?
@BHuang92, The biggest effect would be on the people of Chile. On the world stage Chile would have little impact.
I believe that the US wouldn't have alowed this by Doctrine Monroe. UK was the owner of the seas. In Chile the naci party was small. The right was conservative or liberal, and had connections with US and UK. The left was stronger that the naci party. Would has have riots and the nacis wouldn't have can ruled the country.
@@e.e.2282 los naciste chilenos tenían unos 20.000 militantes. Existían también otros grupos nacionalistas,fascistas,etc. Entre todos eran unos 100.000. Y eso sin contar a los sectores proalemanes que había en la parte más conservadora de la derecha y en el ejercito.
Interesting how some of the Latin American countries, not all, dragged their feet regarding declaring war on Germany and didn't do so until 1945 when it was clear the Allies would win in Europe. I guess they finally realized it would benefit them to be on the right side of history.
Yeah, why would them? I remind you that USA wasn't particularly friendly with latin american countries.
Maybe they simply didn’t see the need to get into a war that didn’t concern them. And only joined at the last hour as a symbolic gesture.
The US has done nothing but bring bloodshed to foreign shores ever since it dropped its non interventionist foreign policy, which was the wisdom of the Founding Fathers.
This right side of history nonsense, is the smug ill thought ramblings of those who typically don’t actually know a thing about history.
Estados Unidos tiene y tenia mucha influencia en los países de la zona.
No... It was the wrong side. And thankfully, more and more people are realizing that.
Well done. I studied Latin American social movements and history in college and never came across this movement.
Thanks for your reply.
Hola, soy de Santiago de Chile
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Every 5th of September, there are bouquets and MSN flags made out of said bouquets (apart from candles) are put in place on the place of the riot. There is also a plaque commemorating the killing with the names of the fallen nacistas and a quote of von Marées, which is the site where the flower memorial is placed every year that passes.
Chile never declare war against germany only to Japan. The number of law 8109 of 1945 you can check
I see. Thanks for sharing.
Me parece muy interesante que te ocupes de la politica de un pais tan oscuro y alejado del mundo, pero me gusto y lo encontre muy emeno.
Thanks for watching!
Same here in Puerto Rico
Please explain.
As a Chilean, a movement like this, or the many other struggles for Chile make sense, Chile has always been up for grabs for people originally not from there, the Spanish, the Germans, Argentinians, Peruvians, now the drug lords of the Americas, and the indigenous peoples of Chile are still fighting for their own land, we've always sold our country to the highest bidders, the Americans, the Chinese, etc etc etc, in Chile, like in most Latin American countries , a number of families run the country, and white supremacy has always been an issue, so much so that Chile, again, like most Latin American countries have been brainwashed into thinking the indigenous is not beautiful and is something to be looked down upon, which is laughable.That white greed of the new world still remains quite active.
Nacis and MNS its a bit more complicated than that. Von Marees was known to be a megalomaniac (he was very enfatic to tell everyone that they where not close to germany. actually he was more of a fan of Mussolini)...hence why students from the universidad the chile, law school, started their own parallel group and planned the "toma del seguro obrero". When they arrested the young protesters von marees rattled them in the underground and when into hiding. Alessandri gave the order to murder them even with the carabineros having the coup totally controlled. Alessandri was a known Facist. Pedro aguirre cerda and others like Allende had their ties with the Nacis. Its been well documented. MNS tho...was a nazi group that had quite a following in the mid 90ties. Just google Alexis lopez ol videos and interviews. however...Nazi networks where quite active in the region the los lagos.
Interesting to read.
Alessandri no era fascista, pero sí autoritario y brutal
Alessandri era de derecha blanda. Aguirre cerda era de izquierda. Los ns en los años 80 serian más de 46.000 en chile.
Wasn't taught this in High School but had a lesson about it in Uni and I taught it in High School. Since it's called "Masacre de Seguro Obrero" most people understand it as just another instance where the police killed strinking workers (we had MANY of those during this period) rather than a failed coup attempt that just happened to take place in the Seguro Obrero building.
Thanks for sharing this.
I am from Chile, i knew there were some nacistas in chilean south, but i have never heard of this
Hubo un alcalde ns en tiempos de pinochet. Se llamaba timmerman. Fue alcalde entre 1976 y 1981.
You should make a video about the hidden history of Iran in WWI and WWII. In WWI Iran was neutral yet millions of Iranians died as a result of it due to Russian and British occupation, both Russians and British have been hiding their crimes for decades to come. In WWII, Iran was once a gain a neutral country and it was occupied by British and Russians who attacked Iran and stole everything they could and deported the Reza Shah the Great to South Africa and asked his son Mohammad Reza Shah to succeed the throne. British and Russians bankrupted Iran and never paid a single penny for all they used, damaged or stole.
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@@HistoryHustle Thank you. The recently published books based on US State Department documents reveal the horrible condition of Iran due to Russia and British actions that caused the death of millions of Iranians.
I ❤ history 😊 It was my favorite class in school,but i was lazy :) I wish I could watch channels like this when I was younger. You can entertain yourself,and educate yourself
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@@HistoryHustle Keep on the good work :)
Now I need to check what my grandfather was doing in 1938.
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He was nine. His father was AWOL and drinking in Punta Arenas. Guess we are safe.
It is interesting to know, though, the role that earlier immigrants had in this. Had this come out successfully it would have triggered a north-south civil war, and perhaps a later struggle between Ibañez and von Mareés. The 30s were already crazy enough in Chile. The country was struck quite strongly by WW1 and the depression, with saltpetter, the spoiles of the War of the Pacific, becoming effectively worthless. Up to that point, the proletarian class had been growing as more and more people immigrated to northern cities, leading to tensions and even massacres, sich as the one in 1907 in Iquique.
We then had a "socialist republic" that lasted a couple of months in 1932 and before that Ibañez had staged a coup and implanted corporativism in the country, plus an uprising right after Ibañez left power.
By the time Alessandri returned to power in late 1932 he seems to have made every bit of effort to restore some stability. I can only imagine he must have felt justified to use ruthless force when the nacistas attempted to interrupt the unstable stability.
In the aftermath of Ibañez's withdraw from the presidential ballot he called his suporters to vote for Aguirre Cerda, who won by a margin below 1%. Cerda ushered in a decade of Radical rule in Chile, in which the country faced WW2 and the opening years of the Cold War, and arguably set the stage for the political polarization leading to Allende's victory in 1970 and Pinochet's coup in 1973.
Hope you enjoyed your visit to Chile.
Had a great time. In the future more videos on Chile.
Very interesting briefing of a little known political event in Chile, also full of myths and propaganda for each "side".
Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
I got a feeling bro is a Hearts of Iron 4 player.
Nope, never played it.
@@HistoryHustle They just released a DLC which has Chile as a playable nation and it has the Nacistas in it, but it's just a coincidence then. Either way, very fun to learn more about this topic at this moment. Keep up the good work!
I remember my abuela mentioning this. She was a child when this all occurred but she told me that they never rlly had any support, especially from the more mestizo and mixed side of Chile. No one rlly liked Hitler and thought he was kind of crazy , especially after the the war rly began. If anything the Germans or the ones with German ancestry were kind of on board with it. But than again the Germans were pretty chill compared to the ones in Europe .
Thanks for sharing this.
@@HistoryHustle interesting fact too my abeulo worked for allendes government. They had to go into hiding because Pinochet was rounding up the “opposition”. Some scary stories I’ve heard. One story my mom told me was them taking a well known musician (guitarist) and breaking his hands in pinochets infamous stadium. A lot of my abuelos co workers and friends didn’t make it.