José Bonaparte was a goddamn legend. I remember having some dinosaur books that mentioned who each species was discovered by and as a kid I was like "who IS this guy and why is he LITERALLY EVERYWHERE?"
I am always impressed by your attention to detail in all things. Including how carefully you pronounce place names, people and animal names. You tackle them head on with careful enunciation. I agree wholeheartedly that differences in pronunciation are irrelevant and critics should do their own channels if they believe they can do better. Funny story (embarrassing in fact!). Me at 18 (more than 40 years ago) went off to university. Before this I was raised in remote northern regions in Western Canada. I volunteered for the Uni radio station. I had never heard of Bruce Cockburn. You can imagine how I announced his name to my audience lol.
Such an underrated Sauropod. I feel bad for its inclusion in the Dino survival game Path of Titans because it literally cannot defend itself because of how weak it is
It definitely needs more (stomp REALLY needs bone break for example, it'd be so helpful for dealing with apexes) but tail gaining a lot of knockback is a step in the right direction. Fought an Amarg on my Hatze yesterday near water and the knockback was so much that it flung me far into the water and ended up killing me as a result
Always with the underrated bs lmao. Why does everything need to be rated? 😂 Besides, its one of the more well known sauropods. These types of comments man.
@@WingedFish66 I dont think bb will help against apexes The last thing you wanna do with Amarga is to present your head to them The damage you recive is just to much
Incredible video like always! Just a small correction, in Italian the "double L" is pronounced exactly like a "stronger" L (like in Sully for example), not the "J" or "Y" sound from Spanish. Also, the letter "i" is pronounced as the I in, well, "in". So it would be "S-oo-ll-eh or-meh deh-ee dee-no-sa-ooree"
Amazing channel, I personally believe that Amargasaurus migth have had keratin sheeths but with a slight sail-like structure on each row but on the back it had a bison-like hump. I personally seem more convinced on this theory since the evidence presented by multiple sources seems to imply this. I personally think that the spines could have been used as a display to attract potential partners and to intiminate rivals. The spines could have also been used as a defence mechanism yet this is very contriversal since the spines migth have been very fragile meaning that they migth break in combat. I personally think we need more research and evidence to even come up with a final answer but only time will tell how much Amargasaurus will change.
Carnotaurus and Amargasaurus both come from the same formation? and are both especially complete? Is there more exceptionally complete dinos in this formation?
They do not come from the same formation. Amargasaurus is from La Amarga Formation, while Carnotaurus is from La Colonia Formation. Amargasaurus lived atleast 50 million years before Carnotaurus. There's not much complete stuff from Carnotaurus's formation aside from it, there were some turtles, plesiosaurs, a few mammals and several undescribed fragmentary dinosaurs. Amargasaurus is also exceptional for its formation. We know it lived alongside some other dinosaurs, mostly sauropods such as Amargatitanis and Zapalasaurus. There was also a small abelisauroid theropod and a few other small vertebrates.
There's no way those spines weren't intended mostly for mating-related displays. Almost any time an animal has some awkward, over-the-top feature like that, display is the reason. They might have served a secondary function as defensive weapons, but they really don't look optimized for it.
@@TutankhamaruCapacdid you consider that no modern animals have a structure that is anything like the proposed amargasaurus double sail? Such a shape would be very conducive to detritus accumulation, unlike any modern animal structures.
I was listening to this when a previous thought I'd had rose up for consideration again. It has to do with the number of dinosaur species that have crests and/or sails. There has been a lot of debate about these adornments and their purpose over the years. No one can agree what they were for, with various reasons, such as thermoregulation popping up frequently, then being dismissed. Crests and sails have cropped up in every group of land vertebrates since the amphibians ( birds crests being composed entirely of feathers) including stem-mammals. What makes the presence of these crests and sails so strange is that whilst some species have well developed ones, other, closely related species have far smaller ones, and more related species, none at all. so, what was my thought? One of the possible functions of these adornments is for 'species recognition'. This is often mentioned quickly, and lumped together with 'mating displays', as if it really isn't all that important. Perhaps to us humans, it isn't, but to the animals now and then , it is, and was, all but everything. So why state the obvious? Well, we appear to be overlooking parallels in our own modern world. Ducks, for the most part, have almost identical body plans, from species to species, but their plumage, specifically, their colours, is anything but. To be sure, the females are often very drab, but the males, whilst rarely brightly coloured, sport some complicated colour patterns. A female duck would have to be almost blind not to distinguish a male of her species from the males of the others that are nearby. Then there are the guenon monkeys of central western Africa. Again, an animal group with almost identical body plans, living in the same habitat. Yet their fur markings are radically different, going from species to species, especially when it comes to their faces. So, if mammals adorn themselves with fanciful colours to give their species a unique ID, and brids do it with their feathers, even more spectacularly in some cases, why not their distant ancient cousins, the dinosaurs. If what I suspect is true, and that hadrosaur and ceratopsian lived side by side in the same habitats with other species of theri kind, Wouldn't it help explain why these groups had elaborate head crests (and with the ceratopsians, fantastic horn arrangements)? Undoubtedly, these things would be wonderfully patterned and coloured to enhance the effects. With so many dicraeosaur species living in the same habitat at about the same time, it makes sense that some would have something on them that would make them stand out to other members of their species. This does not in any way mean that there might have been other purposes for the crests, sails and so on, but it might explain why quite a number of them were so flamboyant!
I hope more stuff from the early Cretaceous of Gondwana gets named.It's sad most ecosystems don't get the extensive reasearch of Morrison or Hell Creek
Whatever the horn shape, if it has a core it is round and porous. Even in a square ram horn it is round, at most oval. Should be easy to recognize. The sheath prevents predators from getting to it also, so there should be no damage from being chewed when in-situ articulation suggests a swift burial.
Good day. Love your channel. Being 15 and a big reptile and dinosaur’s aficionado. Triceratops vs ankylosaurus who wins I know these are animals not monsters but we seen animals did fight each other like rhino,water buffalo,hippo,and elephants . Who would win.
That's because theropods who were tall and big and specialized in attacking the neck from above no longer exist so evolution has no interest (for now) into developing long neck animals with spikes on them (for now)
I prefer the airsack/keratin sheath theory. The spikes could be used as a defence/mating display. The argument that they would've been poor weapons and injury would damage the spinal cord, while true, still doesn't rule out that these spikes would've also wounded the attacker severly resulting in kind of a stalemate. They didn't need to be sturdy because most predators wouldn't have taken the risk and simply avoided biting down on a row of pointy spikes. Amargasaurus simply had to show the spikes, not 'use' them. A sail or hump seems very cumbersome and restrictive, especially when looking at Bajadasaurus, that had the curved spines.
Evolution usually doesn't work strategically like this. If something evolves that has the potential for extreme damage or death if broken, it probably won't last long in a population over time. It would be maladaptive.
@@EDGEscience true but sauropod necks (especially when the animals are that small) were always a weak spot for injury so I can imagine evolving spikes could have been advantageous.
What was that about Argentina having the 6th most known dino species?! Wow, I knew was a badass, but Ihad no idea he was THAT good. (Anyone know where I can find the rest of that list? I assume the US is 1st because of the Bone Wars and China is probably pretty high as well. No idea beyond that, though.)
Why not add a note of the ambiguity of the creature and draw multiple versions, either in a side view “slideshow” or have the different versions interacting in a landscape, or have one looking in a mirror (or pond) seeing another version? Just some suggestions, not sure what type of book your rolling with.
@@yanceyricks2601 yeah but i should decide on a compromise since that's what the format of my book entails, depicting them in their habitat along other species
Love both Amargasaurus and Bajadasaurus
The Jar-Jar-asaurus reconstruction @8:25 gave me cold sweats.
To be fair, Jar-Jar's design was based partially on a dinosaur.
José Bonaparte was a goddamn legend. I remember having some dinosaur books that mentioned who each species was discovered by and as a kid I was like "who IS this guy and why is he LITERALLY EVERYWHERE?"
I absolutely adore this channel. Thank you so much for all you do 😊
I am always impressed by your attention to detail in all things. Including how carefully you pronounce place names, people and animal names. You tackle them head on with careful enunciation. I agree wholeheartedly that differences in pronunciation are irrelevant and critics should do their own channels if they believe they can do better.
Funny story (embarrassing in fact!). Me at 18 (more than 40 years ago) went off to university. Before this I was raised in remote northern regions in Western Canada. I volunteered for the Uni radio station. I had never heard of Bruce Cockburn. You can imagine how I announced his name to my audience lol.
Wait...how is Cockburn *supposed* to be pronounced?
@@EDGEsciencekoh-bern
That's legitimately braindead. Why would they spell it so wrong?
Such an underrated Sauropod.
I feel bad for its inclusion in the Dino survival game Path of Titans because it literally cannot defend itself because of how weak it is
It got buffed it can get away from Rexes now with knock back. It can fight every other 3 slot
@@dogezillathelegendary2695 Thats kinda the problem
It is fantasticly balanced against all the mid tier dinos
But as soon as 1 apex shows up......
It definitely needs more (stomp REALLY needs bone break for example, it'd be so helpful for dealing with apexes) but tail gaining a lot of knockback is a step in the right direction. Fought an Amarg on my Hatze yesterday near water and the knockback was so much that it flung me far into the water and ended up killing me as a result
Always with the underrated bs lmao. Why does everything need to be rated? 😂
Besides, its one of the more well known sauropods.
These types of comments man.
@@WingedFish66 I dont think bb will help against apexes
The last thing you wanna do with Amarga is to present your head to them
The damage you recive is just to much
Here's an offering for the algorithm gods. I'll be back to actually watch the video soon!
I love the Ermahgerdsaurus
😂
I love this guy. I think both the sail and spiny look are cool.
Nice to see you here to Jurassicswine.
Love your videos edge, appreciate the extra long content lately
6:25 "Amargou" I love your accent xD
"Flesh-cream" is the best thing I've heard all week...
Amargasaurus was one the first sauropods i'v ever know(the first one was diplodocus)
Love how you used PoT footage :)
Decent Game
this sauropod loves the punk scene
Good stuff, Edge 👍🏼
Talk about timing. I *just* heard of this fantastical looking dinosaur and I just had to know more about it
This was a great factual educated documentry
Incredible video like always! Just a small correction, in Italian the "double L" is pronounced exactly like a "stronger" L (like in Sully for example), not the "J" or "Y" sound from Spanish. Also, the letter "i" is pronounced as the I in, well, "in". So it would be "S-oo-ll-eh or-meh deh-ee dee-no-sa-ooree"
the gli in italian is the equivalent of ll in spanish
Feels like this video was meant to come out awhile ago
It's my favorite sauropod
Amazing channel, I personally believe that Amargasaurus migth have had keratin sheeths but with a slight sail-like structure on each row but on the back it had a bison-like hump. I personally seem more convinced on this theory since the evidence presented by multiple sources seems to imply this. I personally think that the spines could have been used as a display to attract potential partners and to intiminate rivals. The spines could have also been used as a defence mechanism yet this is very contriversal since the spines migth have been very fragile meaning that they migth break in combat. I personally think we need more research and evidence to even come up with a final answer but only time will tell how much Amargasaurus will change.
Great commentary, when I think about the eons of time it reminds me how insignificant I am and how short my life really is, dust in the wind
Carnotaurus and Amargasaurus both come from the same formation? and are both especially complete? Is there more exceptionally complete dinos in this formation?
They do not come from the same formation. Amargasaurus is from La Amarga Formation, while Carnotaurus is from La Colonia Formation. Amargasaurus lived atleast 50 million years before Carnotaurus. There's not much complete stuff from Carnotaurus's formation aside from it, there were some turtles, plesiosaurs, a few mammals and several undescribed fragmentary dinosaurs. Amargasaurus is also exceptional for its formation. We know it lived alongside some other dinosaurs, mostly sauropods such as Amargatitanis and Zapalasaurus. There was also a small abelisauroid theropod and a few other small vertebrates.
@@Andrey.Ivanov Thanks for clearing up my confusion. I guess I miss understood.
Boths were found at the same time
Amargasaurus is my favorite dinosaur
There's no way those spines weren't intended mostly for mating-related displays. Almost any time an animal has some awkward, over-the-top feature like that, display is the reason. They might have served a secondary function as defensive weapons, but they really don't look optimized for it.
If there were two parallel closely spaced sails over the neck, can you imagine all the detritus that would have gotten stuck inbetween them? Yuck.
Pretty clear from the art that this evolved to better store turtles, or at least to make sure turtles didn’t fall off.
Because Amargasaurus obviously never went in the water & modern animals never get any detritus themselves* 🙄
@@TutankhamaruCapac And you could have made those points without the snark.
@@charlesmartin1121 🙄
@@TutankhamaruCapacdid you consider that no modern animals have a structure that is anything like the proposed amargasaurus double sail? Such a shape would be very conducive to detritus accumulation, unlike any modern animal structures.
I was listening to this when a previous thought I'd had rose up for consideration again. It has to do with the number of dinosaur species that have crests and/or sails. There has been a lot of debate about these adornments and their purpose over the years. No one can agree what they were for, with various reasons, such as thermoregulation popping up frequently, then being dismissed.
Crests and sails have cropped up in every group of land vertebrates since the amphibians ( birds crests being composed entirely of feathers) including stem-mammals. What makes the presence of these crests and sails so strange is that whilst some species have well developed ones, other, closely related species have far smaller ones, and more related species, none at all.
so, what was my thought? One of the possible functions of these adornments is for 'species recognition'. This is often mentioned quickly, and lumped together with 'mating displays', as if it really isn't all that important. Perhaps to us humans, it isn't, but to the animals now and then , it is, and was, all but everything.
So why state the obvious? Well, we appear to be overlooking parallels in our own modern world. Ducks, for the most part, have almost identical body plans, from species to species, but their plumage, specifically, their colours, is anything but. To be sure, the females are often very drab, but the males, whilst rarely brightly coloured, sport some complicated colour patterns. A female duck would have to be almost blind not to distinguish a male of her species from the males of the others that are nearby.
Then there are the guenon monkeys of central western Africa. Again, an animal group with almost identical body plans, living in the same habitat. Yet their fur markings are radically different, going from species to species, especially when it comes to their faces.
So, if mammals adorn themselves with fanciful colours to give their species a unique ID, and brids do it with their feathers, even more spectacularly in some cases, why not their distant ancient cousins, the dinosaurs. If what I suspect is true, and that hadrosaur and ceratopsian lived side by side in the same habitats with other species of theri kind, Wouldn't it help explain why these groups had elaborate head crests (and with the ceratopsians, fantastic horn arrangements)? Undoubtedly, these things would be wonderfully patterned and coloured to enhance the effects.
With so many dicraeosaur species living in the same habitat at about the same time, it makes sense that some would have something on them that would make them stand out to other members of their species. This does not in any way mean that there might have been other purposes for the crests, sails and so on, but it might explain why quite a number of them were so flamboyant!
I hope more stuff from the early Cretaceous of Gondwana gets named.It's sad most ecosystems don't get the extensive reasearch of Morrison or Hell Creek
Here we go boys
[echoes of Lindsay Nicole's "the spinosaurus fandom scates the shit out of me" short]
How Many times has this dinosaur appeared in media?
Anyone else think the thumbnail was some weird looking protceratopsid with one giant horn (that's actually it's leg.)
Whatever the horn shape, if it has a core it is round and porous. Even in a square ram horn it is round, at most oval. Should be easy to recognize. The sheath prevents predators from getting to it also, so there should be no damage from being chewed when in-situ articulation suggests a swift burial.
33:26 a stegosaur? in South America?
Yep Amargastegos is real But fragmentary just like later Dravidosaurus and Maastriction Kallamedu Stegosaur
@@UnofficialJurassicWorldYT okay
Good day. Love your channel. Being 15 and a big reptile and dinosaur’s aficionado. Triceratops vs ankylosaurus who wins I know these are animals not monsters but we seen animals did fight each other like rhino,water buffalo,hippo,and elephants . Who would win.
it's a sail like structure, thinking anything different is just bizar
Path of Titan developers need to take notes. They have Armargasaurus moving kind of slow.
It is quite odd that there are no living animals with long and spiny necks.
That's because theropods who were tall and big and specialized in attacking the neck from above no longer exist so evolution has no interest (for now) into developing long neck animals with spikes on them (for now)
I prefer the airsack/keratin sheath theory. The spikes could be used as a defence/mating display. The argument that they would've been poor weapons and injury would damage the spinal cord, while true, still doesn't rule out that these spikes would've also wounded the attacker severly resulting in kind of a stalemate. They didn't need to be sturdy because most predators wouldn't have taken the risk and simply avoided biting down on a row of pointy spikes. Amargasaurus simply had to show the spikes, not 'use' them. A sail or hump seems very cumbersome and restrictive, especially when looking at Bajadasaurus, that had the curved spines.
Evolution usually doesn't work strategically like this. If something evolves that has the potential for extreme damage or death if broken, it probably won't last long in a population over time. It would be maladaptive.
@@EDGEscience true but sauropod necks (especially when the animals are that small) were always a weak spot for injury so I can imagine evolving spikes could have been advantageous.
True, but a sail or hump would make the neck look just as unwieldy to attack.
What was that about Argentina having the 6th most known dino species?! Wow, I knew was a badass, but Ihad no idea he was THAT good.
(Anyone know where I can find the rest of that list? I assume the US is 1st because of the Bone Wars and China is probably pretty high as well. No idea beyond that, though.)
Hey do you think that they shed their spines?
No, it's made of bone.
@@EDGEscience yah, thought so (it was a stupid question anyways)
They would've shed the keratin sheath taht covered the bone though!
@@EDGEscience hmm perhaps
Path of titans 😊
My fav dino
EDGE do you play Path of Titans? Also we all know that the answer is thermoregulation. Its always thermoregulation😂
As always Argentina showing why we are the world champions on everything
Bitter reptile? Hmm...
you call it "Amargasaurus", i call it "Baby" with a capital B
we are not the same.
In ark those spines are missles lol maybe theu were use in the way in real life lol
i bet that thing taste like chicken
get on brachytrachelopan! enough with letting haters run you off. take care of you, then come back to making awesome videos with extra nerd detail
Bro the way you pronunced "sulle orme dei dinosauri"😭😭 yall americans are weird in terms of pronunciation
Not really. Everyone sucks at languages that are not their own.
@@EDGEscience well,you're right sir
You don't know that these don't still exist.
No one knows anything for absolute certainty. Reality is dealing various levels of probability.
i still don't know how i should draw him for my book
Why not add a note of the ambiguity of the creature and draw multiple versions, either in a side view “slideshow” or have the different versions interacting in a landscape, or have one looking in a mirror (or pond) seeing another version? Just some suggestions, not sure what type of book your rolling with.
Have you tried pen and paper? I really like the look of tactile art
@@canis2020 i'm not talking about that xd
@@yanceyricks2601 yeah but i should decide on a compromise since that's what the format of my book entails, depicting them in their habitat along other species
@@miguelisaurusbruh1158 perhaps hybridize certain designs?