In Michigan at least there is a law that lawyers can't go against the courts, it's an agreement on the bar exam, there is no way around it. In Indiana they "have to stay candid with the courts" meaning anything you tell your public defender who used to work for the prosecutor they will willingly share with the judge. In my case it saved me from prison, but was convicted of an irreversible felony charge as an innocent man.
@@RandomGnXr it wasn't a sarcastic remark I made. I was being serious. I couldn't imagine these people representing me when they don't even know our rights
You're in an office full of lawyers who don't know the law. And people who can't afford a lawyer have these "lawyers" assigned to them to help them get a fair trial. The legal system is in a REAL MESS.
I love it when it’s an audit of a District Attorney’s or Public Defender’s office. They always make the best shit show and are the best at the attorneys embarrassing lack of 1st amendment knowledge.. This one’s an old one tho isn’t it? Good one tho ..
@@jimbstars DA and Public Defenders office audits are the audits that just keep on giving. A bunch of low end public servant trash that make for the best shit show
Man bun lawyers need to go a long a long way before they attempt a swing at private practice. This video will live on forever on the internet. Great work!
This is why I hired my lawyer since I was 17 years old because PUBLIC DEFENDERS DONT KNOW THE LAW and they WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT NOT THE PUBLIC or the DEFENDERS they are representing period… SHAMEFUL/DISGUSTING ALL theses LAWYERS should be FIRED period… 💯🇺🇸💯🇺🇸💯🇺🇸!!!…
It is not in a Public Defender's interest to win their client's cases, they'll always try get you to plead out, or admit guilt. They dare not go against the very government that pays their wages.
I do love the turning point of Steves brain, when he said he could be wrong....something was starting to click but he doesnt know how to deal with that at all
You "practice medicine" too. But if I tried to do brain surgery on my neighbor, with no medical school background or licensing, I'd be arrested. How are these licensed lawyers????
If they have problems with complying with laws, they really should take it up through proper channels rather than taking it out on law-abiding citizen.
Thanks! "Every American's rights are more even important than my freedoms. If I have to temporarily lose my freedom to protect their rights or expose people who are violating people rights that is what I'm here to do."
It's crazy that attorneys don't know that when a private building or company leases a space to a government entity, that space now becomes a public space regardless of if a private person or private entity owns the property.
OMG! Public Defenders who don’t know the law. How can they defend anyone when ignorant of the Law? Typical Government employees. Repeatedly asking them to leave a Public space.
So if others are waiting in the lobby which has many chairs, these so-called attorneys will discuss private information in front of them? These public defenders don’t even understand the definition of harassment.
My law school graduate theory. A students get recruited by top law firms or go into business for themselves. B students go into corporate law. C students, those who can't get jobs in the private sector, become prosecutors. D students, those who barely pass the Bar, become public defenders.
The arrogance of the uninformed attorneys is actually a shame. They truly have no idea what they're talking about and are actually getting mad about it even though they are actually wrong.
Anyone who allows Michael Bowman to pretend to defend them should reconsider. His lack of knowledge on constitutional Law is disturbing. Plead Guilty, ask for Mercy from the Court & fire your public defender!
Disgusting lack of education by those charged with defending our rights. Do you realize you’re talking to an attorney. They are attorneys with untouchable ego! Of all people?
Just some more idiots that know absolutely nothing about the law yet they are appointed to represent you on criminal cases so how can you defend someone in court if you don't know anything about the laws and what are constitutional rights are and for theses public pretenders to be this ignorant about the law who would want them to defend them in a court of law when they know nothing about the laws
Dear God. I’m embarrassed to say I’m an attorney. This is a glaring example of why these people don’t work in the private sector. They wouldn’t survive a day without their immunity.
I'm not an attorney and I find it horrifying, he's spewing what he says are lawful orders, and it's private. I'm just sick for the people that need help
These two ladies should be replaced. Lack of education & arrogant behavior should result in replacement. Look who is available to defend those in need.
We literally defend people's rights.....😂😂😂😂 No y'all make deals because you're in bed with the prosecutors office!!! And we are definitely violating y'alls rights!!
Ironic that this is the level of education and ignorance of the public defenders, lawyers that run a show for the judges and police, while the law is ignored, and the public suffers.
That office full of attorneys and the former police officer should understand that you need the police to come and force you to leave under threat of arrest so you have standing.
Ahahahahah Discount Jordan Klepper was so smooth trying to relay the address to the 911 operator without saying the words "public defenders office." That was so obviously intentional.
As an attorney myself, this is an embarrassment. Once again, as in so many videos this is proof that only attorneys who don’t stand a chance in private practice go to work for the government where they are protected by immunity. You just have to pity the poor defendants who must depend on them. The way they dress in a professional business setting tells you all you need to know. Some idioms are so true-you get what you pay for.
That one little aggressive snotty supervisor realized she was going to be a RUclips star and change to a more professional attire instead of jeans and a T shirt. 😂
If a family member of someone incarcerated were seeking public records from this public office, and was being denied, for WHATEVER reason, they could record that interaction as evidence in further legal action necessary to acquire the records. If someone seeking public defense was being unlawfully denied services, without the ability to record the interaction, it would be a he said/she said. This could ABSOLUTELY happen, if government officials and employees were corrupt. The whole point of this rights importance is to make sure that can't happen. If you believe it would never happen, you need to educate yourself a great deal on history, and even current events. Corruption is still quite common around the world, and the only reason it is perhaps less common in the US now, is because people have worked to make it that way. People like 1a auditors. Idc what anyone says, these audits are extremely important.
The lawyers set up the manager of the building to violate your rights. I'm appalled with the educational failures of the college that doesn't teach the Bill of Rights. We could all be attorneys!
All public employees and all law enforcement employees should be required to take continuing education classes on local and Constitutional law. Period.
49:26 This guy lied multiple times on the phone with 911 . Now he's lying again . This is the public defender who makes deals behind your back with the Prosecutor. I definitely wouldn't want him to defend me .
I can’t imagine the gall these people have to trip the fire alarm to get DMA and his buddy out of the building. Do they think that they’ll leave just because the fire alarm sounds?
I love your comment: ‘Thats why they’re called public pretenders’. That’s great. What a group of rude & ignorant public servants. From their behavior, hopefully people will think twice before they contact this office for any help. Austin actually made the statement that you’re dealing with attorneys & they believe they can give lawful orders. That’s pretty scary!
48:50 MAIN reason to record IN building and not on the side walk is. So that the people can have a documented record on file of what was done and said. THAT WAY there is no "he said/she said" and the employees can't lie and or lose things and say it never happened.
This video mentioned something I have also commented on before. The fact that government agencies do not have a lobby set up properly to provide the "privacy" they claim their clients have. Since many government agencies like the Public Defenders Office, the DMV, The Social Security Admin., and county medical facilities are arranged to allow dozens of people in the lobby area, but the people are required to begin their "private" business in an open forum where anyone and everyone can hear and see it. In other words, the government is ignorantly depriving the privacy they are supposed to create by having a facility where the public is gathered en masse.
I learned there’s no expectation of privacy when you’re in public 40 years ago when I was a security guard for a short time. Why don’t these lawyers know this?
When that guy said this is something he thinks should play out in court and let a judge decide. I would have said.......that's already happened.......in fact it's been ruled on by the Supreme Court judges and they ruled that taking pictures and video in public is not only allowed, it's a right that we have. We hqve freedom of press and that is considered legitimate business.
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Can you FOIA the 2 council members email and phone records who were on Frauditor Trolls channel? Maybe get his actual name, number and email address
Seriously these employees are so unprofessional & obviously trying so hard NOT to help, what literally is wrong with them ? ??
@wendy6280 they're incompetent at their jobs.
This is scarier than police who don't understand the Law... these aren't Lawyers, they're clowns impersonating professionals for a paycheck.
Why would you bloke her faces @@bigtbongosbarbarakapernic
A complete overhaul of this office is urgently needed. The smugness of each one of them is incredible.
If this attorney calls this harassment how can he defend anyone?
Thank you perfect words for share
In Michigan at least there is a law that lawyers can't go against the courts, it's an agreement on the bar exam, there is no way around it. In Indiana they "have to stay candid with the courts" meaning anything you tell your public defender who used to work for the prosecutor they will willingly share with the judge. In my case it saved me from prison, but was convicted of an irreversible felony charge as an innocent man.
I laughed out loud when he trying to present taking pictures in publicly accessible places as harassment
All the same snakes. Just different markings. Part of the same game. And you believe there is justice
Jesus, no wonder innocent people plead guilty for only affording to have these idiots represent them
Can you imagine these people representing you and they don't even know what your rights are. Wow
@@RynBader 🤣🤦♂
Is that why they are not in a private law firm? Complete ignorance. Eh?
@RynBader . Its hard to read sarcasm, are you being serious?
@@RynBaderaaaww, a public servant bootlicker decides to make an appearance. So cute 😂😂😂😂
@@RandomGnXr it wasn't a sarcastic remark I made. I was being serious. I couldn't imagine these people representing me when they don't even know our rights
This is why you should never put your life in the hands of a public defender
User-hv That's the dumbest comment on YT today. Your privilege is showing
You're in an office full of lawyers who don't know the law. And people who can't afford a lawyer have these "lawyers" assigned to them to help them get a fair trial. The legal system is in a REAL MESS.
All by design
Shameful!!!
If they were competent, they would not be working there…
@@jimbstars You are exactly right!
@@-themercyseatit's all done on purpose to keep them paying and keep the city going
25:13 🤣🤣 If the police arrest us we'll be back for your services. Oh it's just too good.
"we're trying to be helpful, we're asking you to leave"...... make that make sense. 😂 What a PUBLIC joke these people are.
I can't help but love every time.They say it's not public while standing in front of a sign saying it's a public defender's office. Well done dma. 👏
Yep, haha, if it wasn't so serious, it would be a tv comedy show. Because the public defenders staff are all really funny comedians...Not.
Auditor must be concerned about a lawsuit to take the time to blur all the faces
What happened? I'm guessing you were escorted off the premises since you cut the video
It truly is pathetic those Public Defenders don't know the law.
Why do you think no one ever wants a public defender?
I love it when it’s an audit of a District Attorney’s or Public Defender’s office. They always make the best shit show and are the best at the attorneys embarrassing lack of 1st amendment knowledge..
This one’s an old one tho isn’t it? Good one tho ..
@@jimbstars DA and Public Defenders office audits are the audits that just keep on giving. A bunch of low end public servant trash that make for the best shit show
They work for the system
They do. DMA is an uneducated felon.
Man bun lawyers need to go a long a long way before they attempt a swing at private practice. This video will live on forever on the internet. Great work!
This is why I hired my lawyer since I was 17 years old because PUBLIC DEFENDERS DONT KNOW THE LAW and they WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT NOT THE PUBLIC or the DEFENDERS they are representing period… SHAMEFUL/DISGUSTING ALL theses LAWYERS should be FIRED period… 💯🇺🇸💯🇺🇸💯🇺🇸!!!…
It is not in a Public Defender's interest to win their client's cases, they'll always try get you to plead out, or admit guilt.
They dare not go against the very government that pays their wages.
Public defenders are like HR. They defend the public the way human resources defend employees.
He smart calling it a request
Nobody cares about your law breaking client
It's not against the law to record personal information, if you use it illegally it's against the law
Lol she complained about the camera then changed her clothes to look better on camera 😂😂😂😂
In all fairness she does look better
The other one also made her hair because she realized it would be on a platform later. 😋
I do love the turning point of Steves brain, when he said he could be wrong....something was starting to click but he doesnt know how to deal with that at all
He is not an attorney so there is hope for him.
@@joeblow2069- Type the word "too" (u can insert "also" and it makes sense). Not "to". Dang bro. u learned this in 1st grade
All of these public defenders were so uneducated in the law, and that is very frightening
A perfect example of why it’s called “practicing law”.
Right! What's really scary is doctors have a practice.
@@briansmullen8390since lawyers and doctors get to practice maybe I’ll practice being an airplane pilot, NOT!! Lmao
You "practice medicine" too. But if I tried to do brain surgery on my neighbor, with no medical school background or licensing, I'd be arrested. How are these licensed lawyers????
Horrible public servants
This is exactly why there's no such thing as a fair trial with a public defender!
It's the. Welcome to the meat grind Court system.
The condescending smugness from everyone there is ridiculous.
I know a bunch of arragant snobs!
@@arachosia 😭😭😭
[ NO. DIFFERENT. THEN. ANY. OTHER. BRANCH. OF. GOV. ] !!!!! .
Why is the girl in the brown shirt face blocked🥱
An attorney with a man bun and waring a plaid shirt 🥱that’s really someone who I’d want to represent me🥱
Remember this if you need to be defended. Absolutely shameful! A public defender thinks he can give lawful orders what a joke.
Like most government they don’t actually care about you and will do the bare minimum and very half effortedly.
It's crazy it's literally stated in the word PUBLIC Defender! Lol 😂 these guys are a joke I would be scared to have these guys defending me..
How can they defend our rights when they don’t even know what they are?
It's all an illusion!
If they have problems with complying with laws, they really should take it up through proper channels rather than taking it out on law-abiding citizen.
I think they know their in the wrong is y it took so long to call cops they was hopin to scare them off
Thanks!
"Every American's rights are more even important than my freedoms. If I have to temporarily lose my freedom to protect their rights or expose people who are violating people rights that is what I'm here to do."
Thank you 🙌🙏💯
It's crazy that attorneys don't know that when a private building or company leases a space to a government entity, that space now becomes a public space regardless of if a private person or private entity owns the property.
From Romania, I am shocked, the head of security does not understand the difference between state and private.
... no clue.... like a child.
It’s no wonder, he is a former cop.
@@dirtbikeheaven1129former
OMG! Public Defenders who don’t know the law. How can they defend anyone when ignorant of the Law? Typical Government employees. Repeatedly asking them to leave a Public space.
They do. DMA does not. Notice his big court loss.
So if others are waiting in the lobby which has many chairs, these so-called attorneys will discuss private information in front of them? These public defenders don’t even understand the definition of harassment.
Asking logical questions is dangerous!
My law school graduate theory.
A students get recruited by top law firms or go into business for themselves.
B students go into corporate law.
C students, those who can't get jobs in the private sector, become prosecutors.
D students, those who barely pass the Bar, become public defenders.
"PUBLIC" What'S your first clue?
Holy cow.
Mr. Preppy needs to be a prosecutor. He's incapable of defending anyone's rights.
No kidding!!!!!
The arrogance of the uninformed attorneys is actually a shame. They truly have no idea what they're talking about and are actually getting mad about it even though they are actually wrong.
Anyone who allows Michael Bowman to pretend to defend them should reconsider. His lack of knowledge on constitutional Law is disturbing. Plead Guilty, ask for Mercy from the Court & fire your public defender!
I would say that your comment should be directed at the entire staff. Absolutely disgusting and ignorant behavior. How did they pass the bar??
no wonder people always lose just because public defender like this
Its on purpose so they do as little as possible and they support courts and corrections and make a big money payckeck..TRUTH
These professional liars are delusional.
How much money did they waste on there law degrees !!!! Wow the Sheer Arrogance and Stupidity!!!!!
Technically none, they have a steady income with no requirement for successfully defending clients. What more could you want?
if you're too stoopit for engineering, science or business your last chance is 'lawyering'. You see what our tax dollars are buying. Oxygen-thieves!
Disgusting lack of education by those charged with defending our rights. Do you realize you’re talking to an attorney. They are attorneys with untouchable ego!
Of all people?
Public pretenders are the bane of society.
'It's private, we rent it' Unbelievable ignorance. How? How can these lawyers be so oblivious of the laws of the United States?
WOW 😳 HES PREVIOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT?!?! AND DOESNT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE?!?!
How embarrassing, right? 😂
Imagine educating an entire law office on the Constitution.
Time is money, so start charging....
Just some more idiots that know absolutely nothing about the law yet they are appointed to represent you on criminal cases so how can you defend someone in court if you don't know anything about the laws and what are constitutional rights are and for theses public pretenders to be this ignorant about the law who would want them to defend them in a court of law when they know nothing about the laws
Shouldn't that be the first thing they need to learn by memory and be tested monthly?
Imagine thinking that these people are educating an entire law office
And law.
Dear God. I’m embarrassed to say I’m an attorney.
This is a glaring example of why these people don’t work in the private sector. They wouldn’t survive a day without their immunity.
justice my a**
I'm not an attorney and I find it horrifying, he's spewing what he says are lawful orders, and it's private. I'm just sick for the people that need help
These two ladies should be replaced. Lack of education & arrogant behavior should result in replacement. Look who is available to defend those in need.
We literally defend people's rights.....😂😂😂😂 No y'all make deals because you're in bed with the prosecutors office!!! And we are definitely violating y'alls rights!!
These might be the worst public defenders Ive ever seen
Me too and I have seen hundreds of audits. Can you imagine how they treat people who can’t afford representation. All those twats were total C…s
They are every public defender
Ironic that this is the level of education and ignorance of the public defenders, lawyers that run a show for the judges and police, while the law is ignored, and the public suffers.
Exactly how the show was designed. Runs flawlessly for the "just us" crew.
Its one big club, and we ain't in it
Public defenders who are SCARED of the public because they have a little camera
Who would want to hire any of these lying public defenders?
Poor people who need help.
They have no idea about the phone calls. Discrasefull
More Darrens than Karens - Michael Bowman definitely wins Darren of the year award for hurt feelings !
I would use 2 words to describe him. Ass.......hole. Of the year!
Real big macho man threatening them with security.
That office full of attorneys and the former police officer should understand that you need the police to come and force you to leave under threat of arrest so you have standing.
Asked to leave for no legal reason
All of these employees are so ignorant & entitled. Sad that sensitive man bun attny blatantly lied & should be held accountable.
This is embarrassing for them. They are attorneys and don't know citizens rights.
Ha, we have two people in our "lobby". Thought they didn't have a lobby
All these women are so fricken rude. I hope they see this and how embarrassing they made their department look.
That's just a woman's natural state around men they don't want to sleep with. It's ingrained in them all
OMG> I would NEVER want those idiots to defend me!
Ahahahahah Discount Jordan Klepper was so smooth trying to relay the address to the 911 operator without saying the words "public defenders office." That was so obviously intentional.
All these government employees think they own these offices and hate our rights we have
How embarrassing that those attorneys have no clue what the law is. 😮
I'm trying to prevent you from having an encounter with the police, so I called the police on you! 😂
Looks like they are the ones afraid of police interaction. What are they afraid of?😂
Cue in man bun 😂😂😂😂😂
As an attorney myself, this is an embarrassment. Once again, as in so many videos this is proof that only attorneys who don’t stand a chance in private practice go to work for the government where they are protected by immunity. You just have to pity the poor defendants who must depend on them. The way they dress in a professional business setting tells you all you need to know. Some idioms are so true-you get what you pay for.
That one little aggressive snotty supervisor realized she was going to be a RUclips star and change to a more professional attire instead of jeans and a T shirt. 😂
Facts
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Since this attorney doesn’t even know our rights, he must have been last in his class.
If a family member of someone incarcerated were seeking public records from this public office, and was being denied, for WHATEVER reason, they could record that interaction as evidence in further legal action necessary to acquire the records.
If someone seeking public defense was being unlawfully denied services, without the ability to record the interaction, it would be a he said/she said.
This could ABSOLUTELY happen, if government officials and employees were corrupt.
The whole point of this rights importance is to make sure that can't happen.
If you believe it would never happen, you need to educate yourself a great deal on history, and even current events.
Corruption is still quite common around the world, and the only reason it is perhaps less common in the US now, is because people have worked to make it that way. People like 1a auditors.
Idc what anyone says, these audits are extremely important.
Well said!👏🏻Thank you. Freedom isn’t free & we must all be educated & auditors of our rights or we will lose them.
I think they are all synced up and you came at the wrong time of the month. Even the men are sassy 😂
Public defenders office educated on the Constitution by First Amendment auditors. lol
The lawyers set up the manager of the building to violate your rights. I'm appalled with the educational failures of the college that doesn't teach the Bill of Rights. We could all be attorneys!
How do these clowns expect to defend anyone when they’re uneducated on Law?
They represent people to bargain with the courts, for you freedom
@@walkingdeadman4208 its to send you down the river as fast as possible
All public employees and all law enforcement employees should be required to take continuing education classes on local and Constitutional law. Period.
Wow the fire alarm😂
Did the city hired AMC popcorn counter employees as public defense attorney's? Lmao 😂. How TF do they know NOTHING? They all need to be FIRED!!
Whoever pulled the fire alarm should be charged and arrested
Attention all public employees you at your desk working as a public event and when I am there in front of you, it is a public meeting end of story
Why do we pay them to treat us like this?
They're CHOOSING not to do their job. Dock their days pay.
If your boss doesn't want the public in his building he should not have rented to the government.
Yes!!! I saw this video on Leroy's channel months ago! Finally, I get to see part 2!
49:26 This guy lied multiple times on the phone with 911 . Now he's lying again . This is the public defender who makes deals behind your back with the Prosecutor. I definitely wouldn't want him to defend me .
Tbf all PD defenders do that.
I love hearing grown men when they don't get their way
Just failed attorneys who failed in the private sector.
100%
“ I’ve worked in the private sector. They expect RESULTS! “ - GBusters…
I can’t imagine the gall these people have to trip the fire alarm to get DMA and his buddy out of the building. Do they think that they’ll leave just because the fire alarm sounds?
Do they make people waiting in the lobby leave when they take a call ???? 😂😂😂😂😂
I love your comment: ‘Thats why they’re called public pretenders’. That’s great. What a group of rude & ignorant public servants. From their behavior, hopefully people will think twice before they contact this office for any help. Austin actually made the statement that you’re dealing with attorneys & they believe they can give lawful orders. That’s pretty scary!
They just totally lied on that police call
Isn't the false fire alarm thing a crime?
Wish I could thumbs this one up +100×... great work... can't wait to see the rest and see how it plays out.
48:50 MAIN reason to record IN building and not on the side walk is. So that the people can have a documented record on file of what was done and said. THAT WAY there is no "he said/she said" and the employees can't lie and or lose things and say it never happened.
This is why they call them public pretenders.
OWNED by the PEOPLE -
Public Property
Looking forward to part two.
Just came across this channel and I’ve been binge watching. This is a fire 1AA vid and I can’t believe there are only 780 views !
We find what they're doing LEGITIMATE.
Torture cuffs are always torture
Using the fire alarm to vacate the biulding.
These lawyers are so stupid. This country is really sad.
This video mentioned something I have also commented on before. The fact that government agencies do not have a lobby set up properly to provide the "privacy" they claim their clients have. Since many government agencies like the Public Defenders Office, the DMV, The Social Security Admin., and county medical facilities are arranged to allow dozens of people in the lobby area, but the people are required to begin their "private" business in an open forum where anyone and everyone can hear and see it. In other words, the government is ignorantly depriving the privacy they are supposed to create by having a facility where the public is gathered en masse.
This is why we record 🙄 the behavior of the public servants.
I learned there’s no expectation of privacy when you’re in public 40 years ago when I was a security guard for a short time. Why don’t these lawyers know this?
When that guy said this is something he thinks should play out in court and let a judge decide. I would have said.......that's already happened.......in fact it's been ruled on by the Supreme Court judges and they ruled that taking pictures and video in public is not only allowed, it's a right that we have. We hqve freedom of press and that is considered legitimate business.
Many police departments also use Private buildings but it becomes public when leased by the Government.