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@@technne-gu1yu I've been watching him for awhile now too, I have theraband gold and two hand made slingshots from oak. The traditional "fork" one with over the top band shoots amazing, it helps your instinctive shooting and is a ton of fun. He is a legend
Dyneema is incredibly strong, so I can only imagine the bow powered weapons that Joerg will be able to make using it. I anxiously await seeing their features!
Dyneema-k has been used for archery strings since it's existence. He's discovered this on his own maybe, and has made a cool video on how to make and install a string, but other than that he has revolutionised nothing. It's disappointing to see him misinforming people.
@@toxlaximus3297 You said I was keeping it to myself, not keeping it from you personally. I don't need to kiss some RUclipsrs arse to have a sense of self mate. And also, you saying I'm "keeping it to myself" in any sense would be illiterate on the basis of the claim you're making. Get an education. 'Keeping' Definition: "the action or fact of owning, maintaining, or protecting something." -... Which let me restate I have done nothing of the sort. I swear the kind of person that some people are, they'd suck human shit out of someone's arse hole if they was told by them it's yogurt. 😂😂
As a sailor, I've Always been impressed by the qualities of dyneema, it's a miracle material. Yet I thought it was not used in archery because of some technical reasons, but wondered if it was feasible. Thanks a lot for trying it out! It will Indeed revolutionise archery (again!). Great work, Herr Sprave.
@@flyfin108 what they used at my archery club was called dacron, and there was some other thing called "fast flight". I don't know about now, though...
@@eddieguyvh4765 they are all almost same stuff, dacron dyneema kevlar, etc. there are slight differences in making process that effects tensil strenght, wear resistance, initial stretch etc etc, atleast for what i know of it
14 years on youtube and you're basically leading the charge on archery and crossbow technology. Congrats bro. I'm not really into archery and started watching your channel for the slingshot stuff but I'm happy you managed to turn a hobby into a profession.
I recall the viewer recommending this fibre to reinforce already bought strings that Joerg was using. Naturally Joerg thought, why reinforce an inferior product with it when I just use it 100%. Well done both viewer & Joerg. Thanks to Joerg's instruction, industrious viewers can now apply this material & knowledge to produce & sell a range of the latest high strength quality completed bow strings, for those who would rather pay someone to do it, creating a new wave of business during bad times. Thankyou Joerg.
Joerg is a blessing for all slingshot and crossbow hobbyists. He doesn’t do this so much for profit but to freely inform others to better enjoy the hobby he loves so much.
Yeah, I should do this for my regular bow. I hate my archery shop in many ways because the one guy I always tend to catch gatekeeps majorly and would probably lose his shit over not having a serving on the string.
Ten days ago I had never heard of Dyneema, I'm already convinced enough to give it a try! And I just got my siege too! Joerg, you are one of my favorite people on the net! Keep it up!!
Awesome job Joerg, but now you've really gone and done it. I'm sure there are some corporate board of director people now screaming "No! He reveled the Dyneema secret! Now we have to start using a higher grade material in the construction of our bow strings and that's going to cut our profit margins. We made so much money making inferior bow strings but now people will know how to make better ones and stop buying ours if we don't change." Trust me people, I've worked in the manufacturing sector for over 30 years. This is actually what happens. The old idea of building something to last was suppressed and killed off by corporate greed.
They'll just release new additions of their existing crossbows with the Dyneema under a different name and act like it's some magic space-age technology they invented and charge you 50% extra.
They will stat voiding warranties for people using anything other than their proscribed bowstring and make it out to be a safety issue. Danger! You risk severe injury or death if you use anything other than our own brand bow string.
Crossbow strings generally last 1-2000 shots if they’re made well as I understand… it’s recommended to change every two years regardless. I think repeating crossbows are different- that lower poundage and higher cycle rate of stretching probably suits a braided line better.
thats only if you shoot 200-300fps under 170ftp, as soon as you hit 380fps with 200lb limbs, you need to be an expert to get over 1000shots with an high quality string
Thank you for having all these great ideas! I built my first Dyneema String today and it worked on the first try! Even the tool ideas were great help! Without Joerg we would still throw stones by hand. Carry on doing that stuff! You are the grandmaster of accelerated anythings!
As a sailor I know Dyneema since a few years now, we use it as stays to hold really powerful rigs on racing boats. Using it on my pistol crossbow was a no-brainer. I wet sand with 2000 paper my rail and wax it as well as it gives some extra life to the string.
Sanding the rail sounds like a good idea, can you use this stuff ok on pistol crossbows as I have 3& a cobra r9,it would save me money learning this & im not sure about the sanding,which pistol crossbow
Die Armbrust hat sich über 2000 Jahre kaum geändert, ebenso wenig die Sehnen. Doch in den letzten 30 Jahren oder so macht die Armbrust-technik einen Quantensprung nach dem anderen. Ich komme mit ausprobieren kaum noch nach. 😉 Klasse Video 😁 Danke.
This is HUGE!! something so simple nobody saw before!!! braided vs parallel strands. You have given the archery world most than anybody else in the last 40 years!
I've been using dyneema for my compound bow for years everybody tells me I'm crazy thank you for validating that I am not crazy as I am using every precaution that you are using and one by adding one additional sleeve of dyneema to the center and then serving it into place with a stitch serving not just a regular serving and of course I always verify that I am not splitting any of the threads and I keep the count as clean as possible equal on both sides whenever the dyneema or the serving splits the dyneema. And yes originally I started with parachute string but it was just not quite strong enough to do the job
Hi barretharms.i just came across your comments about using dyneema cord for your compound bow,what thickness cord did u use and how did u install your peep sight on the string.would appreciate any help you can provide.cheers Rene,from Vic,Aus.
Dyneema is amazing in its hollow braid configuration for splices (like Joreg shows), but it is also widely used as a core for many ropes. Many rope companies will use an Aramid outer sheath (like Technora) for abrasion resistance combined with a dyneema core for even more resilience. Technora is another wonder material. Its like Kevlar, but on steroids. It has a much higher melting point and good abrasion resistance, so its great as a outer protective sheath and is almost as strong as SK-75 or 78. Definitely a good one to check out.
The Kanirope guys actually put a coating around each strand before it is woven, which makes it perfect for the task. Abrasion and sunlight is no problem for this rope.
@@Man_fay_the_Bru doubt that aramid would be used for climbing because it doesn't really stretch and you need that quality in climbing rope to keep it from injuring you if you fall
I had some problems with the eye serving of my bow recently and I am unsure how to repair that. As a relatively new archer I would love to not worry about my string and it's maintenance. So I will try this with my olympic recurve and see how well it works.
Thanks for this video Joerg! I have been struggling for some time to thread through braided cord, and your DIY tools may just do the trick! My use for spliced cords is whoopie slings for suspending a hammock while camping; one end is spliced as you show with three or so pass throughs. But the other is only buried through a length of about 15-20cm once. This allows it to slip though when unloaded and the length to be adjusted. I got so frustrated with my attempts to splice I researched kumihimo, a Japanese braiding technique (lots of videos online). While I can achieve the same thing, it takes way longer. It does offer more opportunities tho. Thanks for all your great videos!
I'm a newcomer in crossbows and slowly learning in this field, Your videos are very entertaining and a very learning experience! I hope you make Billons on your new Product!
Joerg, it has always been a pleasure watching your channel. I work in IT and catch myself when explaining something with the urge to say "Let me show you all its features" thanks to you 😂. I have been a fan for a long time. Furthermore, I don't have a crossbow or bow yet, but the problem I have is getting it past my wife 😏. But ever since I saw you showing your Legolas bows, I was hooked. I was thinking, I really hope he gets a patent, and makes millions, he truly deserves it. You have a passion for it, which I respect (I like to tinker too which I tend to do, but with much less success... ahem). Anyways, I wanted to express my appreciation and always look forward to seeing what you're doing next. When I do finally manage to finagle my way into getting a bow or crossbow, it's going to be GOGUN 😉. BTW, cool idea with the replacement string. I had no idea that's how it's done, video saved for future reference. I could easily apply it to other things too. It also looks strong and very neat without the knots sticking out. Keep up the good work, and I wish you continued success!
Joerg, the serving needed is High powered fishing line,... its used on some Compound bow strings. The recurve crossbow strings I see look like just a bunch of B-50 strands and a cloth serving. But, if you use fishing string for a serving it is much stronger to ware and it protects the string. As for your strings Dyneema I'd add bees wax for added strength. Joerg~ Dyneema is a type of bow string Dynaflight D-97, BCY FORMULA 8125 and DYNEEMA '02 ARE ALL BOW STRING MATERIALS. I'm thinking your Dyneema rope hack is like a Flemish string for Compounds.
With dynema you finish off by tapering the tail before hiding it. The sharp change weakens the line. Funny thing I just bought a crossbow today and thought about doing same as you. As a sailor I've used that stuf and love it. enough that I'm doing standing rigging with dynema.
Very nice Joerg ! I have a slightly different method . For years now I have been serving just the centre section of original string with dynema about 1.5mm thick . Sold for game fishing . All you need is to learn the simple whipping not used for fly tying. Merry Christmas to you my Flower. May you get what you desearve for christmas 😎
Thank you so much, and I really mean that, for this instructional video on the string. I have a spare string for my crossbow pistol but I can't seem to find it. The one I have on it is still good but I would like to make another just in case I can't find the spare string that I have. So again thank you so much for showing this it really is going to be a great help for my little crossbow pistol. You make cocking these things look so easy because I think you are a strong man and as I am 71 years old and muscle atrophy has kicked in, well cocking is not as easy anymore. So thanks again very very much for this video as it was most helpful in learning how to build a new string, thanks again have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry and your strings strung! And may God bless.
I bought the adder crossbow from your very 1st shipment, and it's awesome. Do you have plans to sell the dyneema replacement strings on your website in the future? I would absolutely buy some replacement strings.
Thanks to this "hint" from Jörg I am only using Dyneema based strings now with excellent experiences. For the higher lbs bows the middle of the string should be enforced in any case. This can be done by feeding a small part of rope into the middle of the string with the same technique. By the way I am using only this holo needle for all process steps. If it comes to "waxing" I am using a self made hard paraffin based wax mixed with Molybdän powder. Some of you might know the brand name "Liqui Moly" standing for high performance combustion enginge oils. Thisbrand name stand for "liquide" Molybdän or to be precise "luquide" Molybdän(IV)-sulfid (MoS2). Basicaly I am using this for "dry" lubricating my bicycle chains. It's melted in a "rice slow cooker" at aroud 80°C and chains or strings are immersed into the media.
Thank you for the info!! I recently 3d printed the Miniadder v2 and Adderini, and was surprised how fast the string wore out. I will defiantly try this.
Your timing on posting this is crazy. Got my first crossbow about a week ago and already figured out I'll be repairing the serving on the string every 30-50 shots. Can't wait to see what you've found.
This is how engineering used to be, create something that lasts as long as possible. But the archery industry knows that their biggest gain is from people buying strings and arrows again and again. So they have no incentive to fix this ever. Thanks Joerg.
Danke. Du hast mir viel Verzweiflung und Geld gespart. Bei meiner Siege ist die Orginalsehne nach 20 Schuss defekt gewesen. Natürlich kein Ersatz dabei. Das wiederum hieß für mich Sachen Packen und nachhause. Danke dir 🎉
Watched your video on revolutionary string several months ago and all I can say to you is thank you thank you thank you, you’ve saved me so much money that I can afford to buy the magazine for my siege crossbow so it’s true what they say what goes around comes around.keep laughing
You lose more than a millimetre on the bow compared to the nails because the circumference of the arch ends is much bigger. I use dowels , just as easy . For proper strength, feather that tail so theres no weak point, not important on an adder but on stronger arches it might be. Bit of trivia, people say they do something to the bitter end. That trailing rope that is buried is called the bitter end, like many things we say, it came from the navy in old days, like between the devil and the deep blue sea ...but the devil is a whole other story from ships not satan :)
Excellent video :) I'd agree, the type of string is irrelevant as long as it lasts well, and produces the power required. They didnt have dyneema in the 12th century or the normal type of crossbow strings but they still had long bows and crossbows
Joerg I have always said you have genius in you man ! You have some of the fastest idea to concept to prototype to we have a container ! Let me show you it's features hahaha. I only wish you received your proper credit for all of your collaborations with other people and companies and you could benefit. You are the architect of archery semi-auto fire and machine bolt autofire. Thank you for that Joerg you have helped many of us develop our (non firearms defence) I will always be grateful to you for that !! I literally sleep better lol.
Now that might just be the solution for the string problem of my own! I made a crossbow that uses an old ski as the limb (a whole ski, the thing is huge) and couldnt find any string strong enough
I wrap clear plastic wrap around and use a lighter to quickly melt and shrink it around the string. Its protects it and makes it last a while longer, also easy to redo.
Dyneema is very strong, but it is susceptible to abrasion. You might try to prevent the abrasion by using some heat shrink sleaving over the dyneema, as a replacement for the sizing on a traditional string. I use this technique for protecting dyneema rigging on my boat, and it has worked very well.
Cool, dass sich die Methode endlich mal verbreitet! Ich bin aktiver Segler und da ist Dyneema und das Spleißen schon lange bekannt. Ich habe außerdem zwei traditionelle Langbögen (ein Selfbow und ein laminierter, aus mehreren Hölzern) und habe schon seit Jahren keine herkömmliche Sehne mehr gekauft. Es wird oft behauptet, Langbögen würden besonders schnelle Sehnen nicht vertragen und dadurch schnell brechen. Ich schieße beide Bögen allerdings schon seit einigen Jahren, mit solchen Sehnen und verhältnismäßig leichten Pfeilen. Die funktionieren immer noch wie neu.
So instead of keeping it a secret and making money off a new miracle product Joerg just simply shows you how to do it and where to get it 😎 what a stud... one of my favorite people on earth thanx Joerg your the man.
In sailing, on areas like fastening loops or parts of a bight that rub against catches or cleats, we always use a outer sheath of more wear resistant material to protect the slippery and delicate 12 strand dyneema or spectra lines. Usually the outer cover is removed from a braided line, and slid over the dyneema we're splicing. These outer sheaths can be replaced regularly and relatively easily, meaning you don't have to re-splice the more expensive dyneema or specra 12 strand as often. Might be helpful for the loops and center part of the crossbow strings.
Dyneema has been used in bow strings since its very invention in the 90s... its one of the most used bow string materials in the world... Woven strings have been found to wear out faster in normal bows and lower arrow speed(woven string absorbs energy) then non woven, It may be not the case for crossbows.
I was thinking of using " spider wire fishing line" and do my loops then a final wrap from end loop to end loop, cause the spider wire fishing line alone is so dam strong and cut resistant, and your right Joel at the end of the day not having to change out a string after 10 or 20 shots is pointless and waste of strings but then the manufacturers would go replacement parts bankrupt and try to find ways to peel ur hard earned cash outta ur pockets, thanks for the refresher course, and also sorry about the shop if I was closer I'd give u a bunch of tools I'm not using anymore, would definitely fill the shop lol
Links "Not allowed", so for Brits, it's Timco. I used to fly paragliders, their risers are made from a different format Dyneema, seem to be a Kevlar inner, with a Dyneema outer sheath. Finding 3mm is difficult, so am currently using the Timco woven. So far so good... 😎
One suggestion I'd make is to whip the string at the bolt-contact point, with a waxed strand pulled from a dissected length. Dyneema is an amazing material but it does wear over time, so it would be preferable if that portion could be replaced, preventing damage to the string.
We are using 0,4mm dynema line for hauling up 100kg+ halibuts from the deep sea in Norway and 0,2mm for catching pikes that can weigh up to 10kg, it's an absolutely amazing material.
In the US (and elsewhere outside Europe), just search for "3mm braid dyneema" (or "4mm"). Samson AmSteel is a common brand used in the US, but there are other brands available. 3mm seems to be priced at about $0.60 US per foot (30cm) for small amounts. If buying a full spool, prices might be a bit cheaper on a per foot basis (if you are an Orc armorer, or some such). I would never have guessed this would work. Thanks, Joerg! I'll get some Dyneema braid coming my way.
Se eu pudesse daria outro like para o video, vou fazer isso para todos meus equipamentos, demorou mais finalmente consegui comprar um crossbow ADDER, achei que nunca trariam pro Brasil, foi nessa shot fair 2024 em São Paulo. Thanks Joeg, now I have one off your projects on my hands, very happy.
Hopefully this becomes industry standard soon. Servicing and changing strings is exactly the reason I haven't gone back to crossbows. It was so expensive, much rather get an air rifle.
I'm in to air rifles. I wouldn't buy one costing less than $500, except the Diana Chaser is High quality, CO2 for very small pests. There's no industry like it- not durable. Research very much.
Genial. I got the steambow stinger 2 compact from your store. I love it. I will definitely make the strings now. The adder is next. Schöne grüsse aus Los Angeles
You need to taper the buried end. There is actually a quite significant stress riser at the end of the buried string, tapering the end reduces this and make the rope much stronger.
cool, i have always make my endless loop strings from dynema or spectra. never thought about buying it braided on a roll. now if you put a good heavy dynema or spectra center serving on it the string would last many years just by replacing the serving sometimes. the center serving is what protects the string from the claws of the trigger.
Love that Joerg always shows cheaper alternatives to the expensive tools.
And uses them too
I've watched him for 10 years he invented sooooo many things
He made a simple archery release in his old old Slingbow video.
@@technne-gu1yu I've been watching him for awhile now too, I have theraband gold and two hand made slingshots from oak. The traditional "fork" one with over the top band shoots amazing, it helps your instinctive shooting and is a ton of fun. He is a legend
Joerg will have a Wrist auto crossbow ( you wear on wrist and forearm) out before long if this World Holds together long enough...Lol..
Dyneema is incredibly strong, so I can only imagine the bow powered weapons that Joerg will be able to make using it.
I anxiously await seeing their features!
Dyneema-k has been used for archery strings since it's existence. He's discovered this on his own maybe, and has made a cool video on how to make and install a string, but other than that he has revolutionised nothing.
It's disappointing to see him misinforming people.
@@toxlaximus3297 You said I was keeping it to myself, not keeping it from you personally. I don't need to kiss some RUclipsrs arse to have a sense of self mate. And also, you saying I'm "keeping it to myself" in any sense would be illiterate on the basis of the claim you're making. Get an education.
'Keeping' Definition:
"the action or fact of owning, maintaining, or protecting something."
-... Which let me restate I have done nothing of the sort.
I swear the kind of person that some people are, they'd suck human shit out of someone's arse hole if they was told by them it's yogurt. 😂😂
Next up: Man launching crossbow
@@toxlaximus3297 Dyneema is one of the most common bow string materials on the planet...
@@toxlaximus3297 , Objection over ruled.
As a sailor, I've Always been impressed by the qualities of dyneema, it's a miracle material. Yet I thought it was not used in archery because of some technical reasons, but wondered if it was feasible.
Thanks a lot for trying it out! It will Indeed revolutionise archery (again!).
Great work, Herr Sprave.
I discovered that it will stretch if left in tension on a bow. Not a problem if you can unstring your bow.
all modern strings are dyneema, or similar
@@flyfin108 what they used at my archery club was called dacron, and there was some other thing called "fast flight". I don't know about now, though...
@@eddieguyvh4765 Fast flight is made using Dyneema-k
@@eddieguyvh4765 they are all almost same stuff, dacron dyneema kevlar, etc. there are slight differences in making process that effects tensil strenght, wear resistance, initial stretch etc etc, atleast for what i know of it
14 years on youtube and you're basically leading the charge on archery and crossbow technology. Congrats bro. I'm not really into archery and started watching your channel for the slingshot stuff but I'm happy you managed to turn a hobby into a profession.
Joerg is revolutionizing archery seemingly by himself, innovation after innovation and always with more improvements!
He is the Tesla of Archery.
I see the day I have a handgun sized crossbow, that has 200+LBS and a magazin of 30 arrows.
And I need like no power to load it.
Truth
That’s German engineering for ya
@György Murvai nah
I recall the viewer recommending this fibre to reinforce already bought strings that Joerg was using.
Naturally Joerg thought, why reinforce an inferior product with it when I just use it 100%.
Well done both viewer & Joerg.
Thanks to Joerg's instruction, industrious viewers can now apply this material & knowledge to produce & sell a range of the latest high strength quality completed bow strings, for those who would rather pay someone to do it, creating a new wave of business during bad times. Thankyou Joerg.
Joerg is a blessing for all slingshot and crossbow hobbyists. He doesn’t do this so much for profit but to freely inform others to better enjoy the hobby he loves so much.
Watch out for angry crossbow string makers that will loose money. Great job Sir.
nice one :)
Yeah, I should do this for my regular bow. I hate my archery shop in many ways because the one guy I always tend to catch gatekeeps majorly and would probably lose his shit over not having a serving on the string.
Ten days ago I had never heard of Dyneema, I'm already convinced enough to give it a try! And I just got my siege too! Joerg, you are one of my favorite people on the net! Keep it up!!
Awesome job Joerg, but now you've really gone and done it. I'm sure there are some corporate board of director people now screaming "No! He reveled the Dyneema secret! Now we have to start using a higher grade material in the construction of our bow strings and that's going to cut our profit margins. We made so much money making inferior bow strings but now people will know how to make better ones and stop buying ours if we don't change." Trust me people, I've worked in the manufacturing sector for over 30 years. This is actually what happens. The old idea of building something to last was suppressed and killed off by corporate greed.
They'll just release new additions of their existing crossbows with the Dyneema under a different name and act like it's some magic space-age technology they invented and charge you 50% extra.
They will stat voiding warranties for people using anything other than their proscribed bowstring and make it out to be a safety issue. Danger! You risk severe injury or death if you use anything other than our own brand bow string.
Or they'll find another component to cheapen and make scarce. Corporate greed.
Yep, only thing capitalism really invented was obsolescence technology.
Capitalism baby!
Crossbow strings generally last 1-2000 shots if they’re made well as I understand… it’s recommended to change every two years regardless. I think repeating crossbows are different- that lower poundage and higher cycle rate of stretching probably suits a braided line better.
1-2000 shots? Wow, people whose string lasted only 1 shot must've been really pissed they got the short end of the stick then! /s
thats only if you shoot 200-300fps under 170ftp, as soon as you hit 380fps with 200lb limbs, you need to be an expert to get over 1000shots with an high quality string
Thank you for having all these great ideas! I built my first Dyneema String today and it worked on the first try! Even the tool ideas were great help! Without Joerg we would still throw stones by hand. Carry on doing that stuff! You are the grandmaster of accelerated anythings!
As a sailor I know Dyneema since a few years now, we use it as stays to hold really powerful rigs on racing boats. Using it on my pistol crossbow was a no-brainer. I wet sand with 2000 paper my rail and wax it as well as it gives some extra life to the string.
Sanding the rail sounds like a good idea, can you use this stuff ok on pistol crossbows as I have 3& a cobra r9,it would save me money learning this & im not sure about the sanding,which pistol crossbow
Die Armbrust hat sich über 2000 Jahre kaum geändert, ebenso wenig die Sehnen.
Doch in den letzten 30 Jahren oder so macht die Armbrust-technik einen Quantensprung nach dem anderen.
Ich komme mit ausprobieren kaum noch nach.
😉
Klasse Video 😁
Danke.
Such a genius, and making this open source as well.
This is HUGE!! something so simple nobody saw before!!! braided vs parallel strands. You have given the archery world most than anybody else in the last 40 years!
I've been using dyneema for my compound bow for years everybody tells me I'm crazy thank you for validating that I am not crazy as I am using every precaution that you are using and one by adding one additional sleeve of dyneema to the center and then serving it into place with a stitch serving not just a regular serving and of course I always verify that I am not splitting any of the threads and I keep the count as clean as possible equal on both sides whenever the dyneema or the serving splits the dyneema. And yes originally I started with parachute string but it was just not quite strong enough to do the job
Hi barretharms.i just came across your comments about using dyneema cord for your compound bow,what thickness cord did u use and how did u install your peep sight on the string.would appreciate any help you can provide.cheers Rene,from Vic,Aus.
Joerg ,. when you bury the end,. if you taper the end of the string a few cm , by cutting a couple of strands, ...it's much easier to pull it through.
Sixteen times stronger than steel!!!? And I was going to recommend aircraft cable. Wow!
Dyneema is amazing in its hollow braid configuration for splices (like Joreg shows), but it is also widely used as a core for many ropes.
Many rope companies will use an Aramid outer sheath (like Technora) for abrasion resistance combined with a dyneema core for even more resilience.
Technora is another wonder material. Its like Kevlar, but on steroids. It has a much higher melting point and good abrasion resistance, so its great as a outer protective sheath and is almost as strong as SK-75 or 78. Definitely a good one to check out.
The Kanirope guys actually put a coating around each strand before it is woven, which makes it perfect for the task. Abrasion and sunlight is no problem for this rope.
I checked the prices of aramid rope& it’s really expensive & seems to be mostly for climbing gear
@@Man_fay_the_Bru doubt that aramid would be used for climbing because it doesn't really stretch and you need that quality in climbing rope to keep it from injuring you if you fall
I had some problems with the eye serving of my bow recently and I am unsure how to repair that.
As a relatively new archer I would love to not worry about my string and it's maintenance.
So I will try this with my olympic recurve and see how well it works.
Thanks for this video Joerg! I have been struggling for some time to thread through braided cord, and your DIY tools may just do the trick! My use for spliced cords is whoopie slings for suspending a hammock while camping; one end is spliced as you show with three or so pass throughs. But the other is only buried through a length of about 15-20cm once. This allows it to slip though when unloaded and the length to be adjusted. I got so frustrated with my attempts to splice I researched kumihimo, a Japanese braiding technique (lots of videos online). While I can achieve the same thing, it takes way longer. It does offer more opportunities tho. Thanks for all your great videos!
Check out tacblades RUclips channel on amsteel whoopies
I'm a newcomer in crossbows and slowly learning in this field, Your videos are very entertaining and a very learning experience! I hope you make Billons on your new Product!
I love your ability to see problems no one else did, and find solutions for them.
Joerg, it has always been a pleasure watching your channel. I work in IT and catch myself when explaining something with the urge to say "Let me show you all its features" thanks to you 😂. I have been a fan for a long time. Furthermore, I don't have a crossbow or bow yet, but the problem I have is getting it past my wife 😏. But ever since I saw you showing your Legolas bows, I was hooked. I was thinking, I really hope he gets a patent, and makes millions, he truly deserves it. You have a passion for it, which I respect (I like to tinker too which I tend to do, but with much less success... ahem). Anyways, I wanted to express my appreciation and always look forward to seeing what you're doing next. When I do finally manage to finagle my way into getting a bow or crossbow, it's going to be GOGUN 😉. BTW, cool idea with the replacement string. I had no idea that's how it's done, video saved for future reference. I could easily apply it to other things too. It also looks strong and very neat without the knots sticking out. Keep up the good work, and I wish you continued success!
Ladys often in archery!
@@davidm.4670 Hmmm... great idea, I could use that angle😅
Joerg, the serving needed is High powered fishing line,... its used on some Compound bow strings.
The recurve crossbow strings I see look like just a bunch of B-50 strands and a cloth serving.
But, if you use fishing string for a serving it is much stronger to ware and it protects the string.
As for your strings Dyneema I'd add bees wax for added strength.
Joerg~ Dyneema is a type of bow string Dynaflight D-97, BCY FORMULA 8125 and DYNEEMA '02 ARE ALL BOW STRING MATERIALS.
I'm thinking your Dyneema rope hack is like a Flemish string for Compounds.
Your manufacturers gonna hate you for this 😁
With dynema you finish off by tapering the tail before hiding it. The sharp change weakens the line. Funny thing I just bought a crossbow today and thought about doing same as you. As a sailor I've used that stuf and love it. enough that I'm doing standing rigging with dynema.
Very nice Joerg ! I have a slightly different method . For years now I have been serving just the centre section of original string with dynema about 1.5mm thick . Sold for game fishing . All you need is to learn the simple whipping not used for fly tying.
Merry Christmas to you my Flower. May you get what you desearve for christmas 😎
Thank you so much, and I really mean that, for this instructional video on the string. I have a spare string for my crossbow pistol but I can't seem to find it. The one I have on it is still good but I would like to make another just in case I can't find the spare string that I have. So again thank you so much for showing this it really is going to be a great help for my little crossbow pistol. You make cocking these things look so easy because I think you are a strong man and as I am 71 years old and muscle atrophy has kicked in, well cocking is not as easy anymore. So thanks again very very much for this video as it was most helpful in learning how to build a new string, thanks again have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry and your strings strung! And may God bless.
I bought the adder crossbow from your very 1st shipment, and it's awesome. Do you have plans to sell the dyneema replacement strings on your website in the future? I would absolutely buy some replacement strings.
easy enough to make your own ...
As always love your videos! My Mother was German and I have been to Germany Many times. Love the people, food,beer and your accent!
Thanks to this "hint" from Jörg I am only using Dyneema based strings now with excellent experiences.
For the higher lbs bows the middle of the string should be enforced in any case. This can be done by feeding a small part of rope into the middle of the string with the same technique.
By the way I am using only this holo needle for all process steps.
If it comes to "waxing" I am using a self made hard paraffin based wax mixed with Molybdän powder. Some of you might know the brand name "Liqui Moly" standing for high performance combustion enginge oils. Thisbrand name stand for "liquide" Molybdän or to be precise "luquide" Molybdän(IV)-sulfid (MoS2).
Basicaly I am using this for "dry" lubricating my bicycle chains. It's melted in a "rice slow cooker" at aroud 80°C and chains or strings are immersed into the media.
i couldnt get audio for this one buddy
I'm pretty sure if it was a survival situation we would all want Joerg to be our leader. What a great guy.
Thank you for the info!! I recently 3d printed the Miniadder v2 and Adderini, and was surprised how fast the string wore out. I will defiantly try this.
Your timing on posting this is crazy. Got my first crossbow about a week ago and already figured out I'll be repairing the serving on the string every 30-50 shots. Can't wait to see what you've found.
This is how engineering used to be, create something that lasts as long as possible.
But the archery industry knows that their biggest gain is from people buying strings and arrows again and again. So they have no incentive to fix this ever.
Thanks Joerg.
great tip Joerg I am a paraglider pilot and for sure Dyneema it is a great solution very durable , you are every detail always
Joerg needs a statue somewhere for revolutionizing modern archery again and again :P
The trouble will be finding a material that is strong enough 😅
@@etutub , ingenious reply 🏆
@@etutub (tongue in cheek) he used to use a lot of plywood ... ;-}
A statue of of him revolutionizing modern sculpting techniques to create a far superior statue of him, than the statue of him
Danke. Du hast mir viel Verzweiflung und Geld gespart. Bei meiner Siege ist die Orginalsehne nach 20 Schuss defekt gewesen. Natürlich kein Ersatz dabei. Das wiederum hieß für mich Sachen Packen und nachhause. Danke dir 🎉
Finally understood how splicing actually works!
Watched your video on revolutionary string several months ago and all I can say to you is thank you thank you thank you, you’ve saved me so much money that I can afford to buy the magazine for my siege crossbow so it’s true what they say what goes around comes around.keep laughing
Joerg, I am convinced! Since I have an Adder, this was my main frustration! I will try this for sure! You are a real problem solver!
Hey Joerg, I think that something happened with the audio of the video
This is great! I'd never heard of Dyneema before your previous video, and I hope to see more of your ingenuity with it!.
You lose more than a millimetre on the bow compared to the nails because the circumference of the arch ends is much bigger. I use dowels , just as easy . For proper strength, feather that tail so theres no weak point, not important on an adder but on stronger arches it might be. Bit of trivia, people say they do something to the bitter end. That trailing rope that is buried is called the bitter end, like many things we say, it came from the navy in old days, like between the devil and the deep blue sea ...but the devil is a whole other story from ships not satan :)
Excellent video :) I'd agree, the type of string is irrelevant as long as it lasts well, and produces the power required. They didnt have dyneema in the 12th century or the normal type of crossbow strings but they still had long bows and crossbows
I don't even shoot bows, but this got me excited. Also, now I have a better way to hold things together!
Dyneema pricing is just about to go through the roof! Might be worth stockpiling while it's priced as is and to even resell later down the line.
I doubt the archery community will use that much ...
"Useless for Surely!"
"It's plenty useful enough, and don't call me Shirley."
I love how precise he is with guessing the 20 cm and is only checking the length with the ruler
Am I the only one there's no audio for? Preroll ad had audio...
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Joerg I have always said you have genius in you man ! You have some of the fastest idea to concept to prototype to we have a container ! Let me show you it's features hahaha. I only wish you received your proper credit for all of your collaborations with other people and companies and you could benefit. You are the architect of archery semi-auto fire and machine bolt autofire. Thank you for that Joerg you have helped many of us develop our (non firearms defence) I will always be grateful to you for that !! I literally sleep better lol.
Well done Jeorg ~ youve single handedly changing archery for a SECOND time!
Nice one, big love to you brother
Great video taught me something actually useful unlike most videos,thank you.
thx Joerg, it's so relaxing watching you working on your inventions! Gotta try this on my Excalibur xbow, see if and how it works.
Again and again. You just do it so well Joerg.
Dyneema is also used in the manufacture of ballistic body armor.
Whoever suggested Joerg try out Dyneema in the first place should be quite pleased. I think you helped our man here find a new favorite material.
Now that might just be the solution for the string problem of my own!
I made a crossbow that uses an old ski as the limb (a whole ski, the thing is huge) and couldnt find any string strong enough
Wow thanks for the idea! I have an old snowboard kicking about in my workshop.. ;) Ballista here we come!
I wrap clear plastic wrap around and use a lighter to quickly melt and shrink it around the string. Its protects it and makes it last a while longer, also easy to redo.
I enyoi these videos with Joerg, even without a bow.
Dyneema is very strong, but it is susceptible to abrasion. You might try to prevent the abrasion by using some heat shrink sleaving over the dyneema, as a replacement for the sizing on a traditional string.
I use this technique for protecting dyneema rigging on my boat, and it has worked very well.
Do you heat the sleeving or use it as is? I would image heat could damage the Dynema, right?
The way you make the string is very much like how we made snappy snares at my work.
Cool, dass sich die Methode endlich mal verbreitet!
Ich bin aktiver Segler und da ist Dyneema und das Spleißen schon lange bekannt. Ich habe außerdem zwei traditionelle Langbögen (ein Selfbow und ein laminierter, aus mehreren Hölzern) und habe schon seit Jahren keine herkömmliche Sehne mehr gekauft.
Es wird oft behauptet, Langbögen würden besonders schnelle Sehnen nicht vertragen und dadurch schnell brechen. Ich schieße beide Bögen allerdings schon seit einigen Jahren, mit solchen Sehnen und verhältnismäßig leichten Pfeilen. Die funktionieren immer noch wie neu.
Yes! I feel like this could be a whole series testing different string materials on crossbows!
String theory 🤣
So instead of keeping it a secret and making money off a new miracle product Joerg just simply shows you how to do it and where to get it 😎 what a stud... one of my favorite people on earth thanx Joerg your the man.
In sailing, on areas like fastening loops or parts of a bight that rub against catches or cleats, we always use a outer sheath of more wear resistant material to protect the slippery and delicate 12 strand dyneema or spectra lines. Usually the outer cover is removed from a braided line, and slid over the dyneema we're splicing. These outer sheaths can be replaced regularly and relatively easily, meaning you don't have to re-splice the more expensive dyneema or specra 12 strand as often. Might be helpful for the loops and center part of the crossbow strings.
What do you use to wrap around it specifically?
Dyneema has been used in bow strings since its very invention in the 90s... its one of the most used bow string materials in the world...
Woven strings have been found to wear out faster in normal bows and lower arrow speed(woven string absorbs energy) then non woven, It may be not the case for crossbows.
I was thinking of using " spider wire fishing line" and do my loops then a final wrap from end loop to end loop, cause the spider wire fishing line alone is so dam strong and cut resistant, and your right Joel at the end of the day not having to change out a string after 10 or 20 shots is pointless and waste of strings but then the manufacturers would go replacement parts bankrupt and try to find ways to peel ur hard earned cash outta ur pockets, thanks for the refresher course, and also sorry about the shop if I was closer I'd give u a bunch of tools I'm not using anymore, would definitely fill the shop lol
We use the same type for our cable pulling machine. 6mm or 8mm for up to 6 tons of pulling force. Great work on the splicing!
why 360p..!!
Because early?
So now you have become the Lord of the strings!
Links "Not allowed", so for Brits, it's Timco. I used to fly paragliders, their risers are made from a different format Dyneema, seem to be a Kevlar inner, with a Dyneema outer sheath. Finding 3mm is difficult, so am currently using the Timco woven. So far so good... 😎
One suggestion I'd make is to whip the string at the bolt-contact point, with a waxed strand pulled from a dissected length. Dyneema is an amazing material but it does wear over time, so it would be preferable if that portion could be replaced, preventing damage to the string.
Ein echter Bastler und Handwerker, respekt wie du das alles angehst Jörg !!!
you are my second favorite german love the videos keep up the great work
We are using 0,4mm dynema line for hauling up 100kg+ halibuts from the deep sea in Norway and 0,2mm for catching pikes that can weigh up to 10kg, it's an absolutely amazing material.
Cool, I've just bought a cobra and I have dynema whoopie slings on my hammock and some to spare, I'll make some.
EXCELENTE vídeo, this has always been a constant worry of mind in a time of SHTF
This man is a legend
In the US (and elsewhere outside Europe), just search for "3mm braid dyneema" (or "4mm"). Samson AmSteel is a common brand used in the US, but there are other brands available. 3mm seems to be priced at about $0.60 US per foot (30cm) for small amounts. If buying a full spool, prices might be a bit cheaper on a per foot basis (if you are an Orc armorer, or some such).
I would never have guessed this would work.
Thanks, Joerg! I'll get some Dyneema braid coming my way.
Se eu pudesse daria outro like para o video, vou fazer isso para todos meus equipamentos, demorou mais finalmente consegui comprar um crossbow ADDER, achei que nunca trariam pro Brasil, foi nessa shot fair 2024 em São Paulo. Thanks Joeg, now I have one off your projects on my hands, very happy.
Hopefully this becomes industry standard soon. Servicing and changing strings is exactly the reason I haven't gone back to crossbows. It was so expensive, much rather get an air rifle.
I'm in to air rifles. I wouldn't buy one costing less than $500, except the Diana Chaser is High quality, CO2 for very small pests. There's no industry like it- not durable. Research very much.
Another great video demonstrating Joerg's refusal to accept the status quo.
That helping string would be so awesome for my crossbows. Thanks for the video and I want that co2 assisted one now!
Bought 100m Dynema right away. I hope I can apply it to all of my Crossbows. Really great work, I like this approach.
I use a similar technique when putting loops on the end of ropes, its MUCH stronger than a simple knot and eliminates fraying 😄👍
You can find special scissors for dyneema in stores where they sell fishing gear.
I Just learned something that is super useful! Thanks Joerg! Peace and Love to you and fam!
Genial. I got the steambow stinger 2 compact from your store. I love it. I will definitely make the strings now. The adder is next. Schöne grüsse aus Los Angeles
Please do a full review of the reverse draw compound pistol crossbow
I got about twenty percent. I know of a good crossbow with no string. This is very useful info thanks!
6:56 my man's trying his hardest to keep it family friendly 😂😂👌
Joerg what was the pistol crossbow with the reverse limbs? I don't think I've seen that before. Great videos!
You need to taper the buried end. There is actually a quite significant stress riser at the end of the buried string, tapering the end reduces this and make the rope much stronger.
You are AWESOME!!! Thank you Sir
cool, i have always make my endless loop strings from dynema or spectra. never thought about buying it braided on a roll. now if you put a good heavy dynema or spectra center serving on it the string would last many years just by replacing the serving sometimes. the center serving is what protects the string from the claws of the trigger.