First time I heard Tristan und Isolde Kirsten Flagstad was Isolde and I thought it was the most amazing thing I had ever heard. Now I was 3 1/2 years old but my father said that I was entranced and made him play it again at least 5 times. That was 65 years ago and The Ring by Wagner is still my favorite set of operas. Please let generations to come be amazed, enthralled and swept up not only by Wagnet but all operatic composers who have given us a huge amount of fabulous music and boundless emotion, even if you don't know the language. I have cried so hard at some operas that my grandsons won't stay to the end, I embarrass them with my crying. God I love opera!
Let's hope the music teachers in school can continue to do their jobs and hopefully teach the next generations the beauty of this art form, if one is not lucky to have it at home like you and I did.
Cheryl - listening to great music at an early agi can really affect you for the rest of your life. I was exposed to Italian opera, Sinatra and The Beatles at that age and I ended up becoming a musician. We should feel fortunate to have these moments when we were young and apparently you're still listening to the good stuff - thanks for sharing your story.
@@jacobshirley3457 I think that sadness encourages introspection and can be a catalyst for growth and change. It's beauty is in it's universality and part of being human is to experience and understand it.
I think that this is the single greatest classical piece I have ever heard. The tension is dramatic and overwhelming at times. I really do feel like the only being alive hearing it.
One of the deepest pieces of music ever written brilliantly chosen to become a part of one of the depeest movies ever made. Lars Von Trier, you are a genious.
I've never really listened to Wagner before. Seeing "Melancholia" shattered my lens. This piece haunts me, as does the film. I've decided to really listen to as much Wagner as I can find now. I always loved Schubert and Liszt, and now I'm hooked on Wagner even more. Incredible music.
I find the music from 1:42 to 3:44 incredibly moving: a mix of sadness, regret, maybe lost time or maybe a humble acceptance of one's human limits and flaws. Powerful and beautiful.
YES! those colossal strings @ 1:42, and then @ 7:28 - 7:42 never cease to give me goosebumps and make me teary eyed. Those lush cellos and glissandi from the cellos @ 7::37 also give me the chills. Masterpiece.
I, AM here because of Melancholia and am glad to have arrived. The movie, like Wagner's music & many great works of art can leads us to the most profound emotions & thoughts, even inspiring some to go beyond what we thought were their normal limits. Whether the viewer sees the film as a study of clinical depression, Sci-Fi catastrophe, or both, it is rare to find a film such an inspiration for exploring the boundaries of the human experience, but you gotta have an open mind to make the trip.
I loved Melancholia, though it frightened and saddened me immensely.. I knew Wagners Ouverture well before - but every time the music started in the film, my tears were just falling and falling. Thank you Wagner, and thank you Lars Von Trier (Don't bother about his comments - he is just a kid sometimes. He doesn't mean what he said)
Grant C are you kidding? How he does it is with large 9th, 11th, and 13 chords, making the harmonies more dense and adding dissonance and color. This pushes the boundaries of tertian harmony and that was what the romantic era was all about. Don't ask how if you dot know anything about music history or theory because it will just go over your head
Great performance, Zubin gives Tepstead a run for his money. I like how he pinches the orchestra quiet, but even more so at 1:43 when he seems to conjure the next melodic phrasing into existence. Powerful stuff.
I don't care what Wagner believed in. A human being that has the sensibility to compose a masterpiece as amazingly beautiful, dramatic and filled with such sadness and love as this one .... he cannot be evil. It just isn't possible. I adore Wagner's music, and no matter what anyone says, he will live on forever through his music.
Why do people feel the need to argue, here and now, in front of a beautiful piece of music giving itself fully to us all? Sit back and enjoy the show--it will bring you peace. Be humble, that we don't have to go further than a few clicks to see a magical show.
All great preludes, introductions, etc. give the audience a clue to what they'll be hearing. Wagner does this as he gives hints of the coming melodies. Also, this is one of the first pieces of music using chromaticism. Absolutely brilliant!
First pieces of music using chromaticism? Strange statement. Have you heard Mozart's symphony 40? I'm sure you have. That's why it is a strange statement.
+Oscar Rubilar I think he means using chromaticism to this extent, certainly used differently to how Mozart uses it, and its effect on the whole not really resolving thing.
+Oscar Rubilar I am a Mozart lover and know his last 3 symphonies very well. He was a pretty conservative composer, and didn't even get into Bach until his twenties. His brilliance always showed in his variations, a precursor of Ravel. The Into of the E flat Symphony contains a C against a C# with nothing in between. the most dissonant interval. The audience must have held their ears. THAT was strange for Mozart and he never did it again. I love the G minor, like so many people do. But I don't see any chromaticism in it. It would be unlike Mozart to do that. It is the Andante that is beyond description. The rise of the violins and the descending woodwinds bring tears to my eyes every time I hear it. No chromaticism . Just Mozart's genius.
+Bruce Robbins I suggest you watch "Bernstein on Mozart" uploaded here on youtube by paxwallacejazz, a lecture given by Leonard himself to a group of Harvard students in the 70's. He explains the intricate combinations of chromaticism and diatonicism in Mozart's Symphony No. 40 in G minor. It's really informational and fascinating!
At 7:15 he just keeps stretching it and stretching it and you can hear the resolution in your head, but Wagner just does not give it to you and it feels just so unsatisfying but at the same time beautiful.
The 'chords' are not standard, but still harmonious in a strange but powerful way. The successive notes are totally unexpected and my breath stops by itself. The sequence of notes gives neither a joyful nor a sad feeling, but rather a great Power coming in this world from other occult dimensions and stilling every movement by its power. Haven't heard anything like this ever.
Well said! That's probably why Tchaikovsky called Wagner: "The greatest symphonist since Beethoven". What he couldn't realise at that time was that Wagner actually opened the door to modern music, cinema and opera. It's safe to say that 20th century music (not to mention the movie industry) is unthinkable without Wagner.
I would agree, I don't really see what is 'non-standard' about them, but I would also agree with your point of view: there is something deeply original and powerful about this aesthetic.
I don't have the technical knowledge, but I can tell what I feel in the music. For me chords are a harmony of different notes. And usually these notes blend together harmoniously. However here, you see at regular intervals, sudden coming together of a high note with a group of low notes, where the high note simply doesn't make sense - doesn't sound like a harmonious chord - so I called them 'non-standard'. But this constant mixing of high and low notes produces an extremely strange feeling. Sometimes, the low notes themselves rise to the high note - producing the extreme pinnacle of feeling which can't be described and which stills the breath. Can't explain more.
I actually really like how you think about chords and music, because it's not theoretically standard but it's interestingly fresh. Normal theory books get so boring sometimes.
Isaac Stern played this for the movie Humoresque starring John Garfield & Joan Crawford it was transcribed for violin... After all these years and years I have never forgotten the violin interpretation... beautiful beyond all words
Good point. Being a CONTRARIAN makes you very special, one against the crowd. But it also can draw hatred in some situations, and some cultures. It can end up in violence, even death.
Wagner is one of my favourite composer. I descovered this wonderful Tristan & isolde Prelude when watching Melancholia on television. Un pur chef d'oeuvre.
RUclips commenters are a funny lot. Some post honestly and bare their soul, hoping their words will connect with someone out in the depths of cyberspace. And then there are those who prey on those commenters and attack them in the most childish and hurtful of ways. Sad.... As for conductors, another post said it perfectly: a dynamic metronome. Music like this is best when there isn't a strict adherence to the limitations of the printed time scale. When there is a natural ebb and flow based on the emotion ingrained in the music itself. This is the conductors true purpose. To interpret a piece of music and guide the orchestra through its emotional landscape. And its use in Melancholia was beautiful. The images in that movie haunt me. And some of the dialog..."Life on earth is evil. And not for long." And that final image. Remarkable, terrifying, beautiful. Wagner wrote some of humankinds most emotionally potent music. Its true greatness shown in how it connects with audiences in its own way. Each person can take the music to mean whatever their soul needs it to mean.
As for conductors, believe me emotions don't play aconsiderable role. Emotions are being generated inside the audience. Being a professional musician, a conductor is pure work, intellectual work. To interpret music, a musician has to remain very humble towards the composer and his masterpiece. The most part of the work of a conductor is behind the scene. At the rehearsals. The concert is only the peak of the iceberg.
if you're sad, then hearing a piece like this will surely make you feel better. why? in feelings of sadness, a sad piece make you sense "its me". and then these beautiful tunes are what make you feel better
This is wonderful music: it was a revolution to the classical music and opera. Wagner remains one of tthe greatest composers in history and nothing, not even the foulest action of him, let alone his political opinions, could change this fact.
What gorgeous music! I am still fascinated with that Tristan chord that leads everywhere and nowhere. It is said to have already featured in Chopin's Ballade in g minor, but it would seem more in passing than as a main motive.
"...these bars from the prelude to Tristan do not express for us love or frustration or even longing; but they produce for us, both qualitatively and dynamically, certain gestures of the spirit which are to be sure less specifically definable than any of these emotions, but which energize them and make them vital to us... " excerpt from The Composer And His Message.
Actually it's one of the best, but then there's Barber's adagio, Rachmaninoff's Prelude 32.10, Chopin's Etude 25.12, but I'd put Wagner's piece and Barber's adagio about the closest in comparison for mood.
This is my FAVOURITE piece ever! How many essays have I written on 'this'? I do not care! THIS IS GENIUS! JUST LISTEN! That is all you need to do! AMAZING! WOW!
Opposed to former Opera music, Wagner sometimes made the orchestra more important than the singer. Before Wagner the orchestra accompanied the singer, but often in Wagner´s music, The singer instead accompanies the orchestra!! Particularly evident is it in Liebestod in Tristan and Isolde. The music there: the climbing up chromatic melody, the increasing tension or agony, up to climax, and then --- the wonderful the resolution in major! And that climbing structure you can only hear in the orchestra, not in the soprano. If you think that the soprano has the melody, you get completely wrong. Because, the soprano a c c o m p a n i e s the orchestra. She is not singing that important upclimbing melody. When I recently heard Tristan and Isolde at Metropolitan, in a theatre in Sweden, I was disappointed. The orchestra music was too weak and the singers too loud, especially in Liebestod. The orchestra wronly accompanied the singers. Besides that the sopranos were singing with a permanent, loud, and horrible vibrato. That ever vibrato stands in the way of the melody! Wagner was innovative with a new kind of melody by the singers in Tristan and Isolde, a melody with an extended tonality. That extended tonality has the effect that you the whole time are expecting the resolution, the resolution in Liebestod. But that whole structure you cannot apprehend with that vibrato lying over it all. Don´t tell me the vibrato is necessary for matching the big orchestra. That´s a myth. The vibrato has been a particular form of art. Many people think that Opera is the art of vibrato singing. Johan Cavalli
for anyone who is interested, this prelude by wagner is used repeatetely throughout the new film Melancholia directed by Lars Von Trier. It is the only major piece of music used repeatetely in the film. I'd consider it the theme music for the film.
Let's get this dscussion back to the music, which is so magnificent. Great use of it in the film Melancholia, as others have observed, but those of you in or around Toronto, go see the Peter Sellars/Bill Viola production of Tristan und Isolde which is on now at the Four Seasons Centre. One of the greatest opera productions I've ever seen, all 5 1/2 hours of it. Ben Heppner is mazing but the Viola video makes it truly memorable.
Wagner's preludes were breathtakingly beautiful . . . my own favourite is Parsifal, but this is so incredibly passionate and romantic. Awesome music that sends tingles up and down my spine.
oh, i love the part on 06:51 to 07:33 !! is amazing, this interpretation is very excellent!! im wagnermaniac lol .. that strings so clearly on 06:06.. the violins 1 with the violins 2, so clearly and on 7:05 violins so expressive! EXCELLENT, on one of my favorite parts of this vorspiel.
i can't describe this music, but you must think 'wide', very very wide, fluid not like water that goes fast, but fluid like honey because you can feel that intensity, very unique, and unique way of writing, melodies... very amazing.
This music is just one magnificent way of pulling on my heartstrings, intent on warming it, and opening my eyes to the sheer beauty and prowess that the piece exudes infinitely.
This "Tristan chord" doesn't really resolve but it's aesthetically pleasing... Milton Babbitt and John Cage took this "we won't resolve the chord" shit too far.
When the film came out, I felt like this music had been conceived for it, had been waiting around for 150 years for the consummation of being put together with von Trier's story and visuals. It transfixed me. Watched it 3 times in 2 days. I took it very seriously. Recently I heard von Trier calling it kitch, which I have to admit I see now (also).
@@hedgehog5ful F**k Melancholia and Lars Von Trier, that movie will be forgotten in some decades or years, instead Richard Wagner will be remember for ever
Because 30+ people will never agree on the same time. He is an objective time keeper that everyone can follow. This is especially important if the song features formatas, accelerandos, abrupt tempo changes, etc. Also, during the rehearsals, he is the one that gives the group all of the tips they need in order to put the finishing touches on the performance. Comments such as, "accent this downbeat more, more crescendo here, hold this formata longer, play a bit softer." So, he's very important!
This is my first go for years at listening to a whole piece of Wagner. I like the opening but kept returning to my passive resistance mode to all the swirling about of waves of emotion. I appreciated the conducting more than the music.
I watched the film Melancholia yesterday and i felt completely in love with the background music. It was familiar to me. I started to research, then I realized that the music was the prelude of Tristan und Isolde.
Not only that, but what you see at the concert is the end result of very intense studies and hard practice. All this is organized and conceived by the conductor, who usually comes from a broad background of incredible knowledge and experience in classical music. Karajan, Solti, Toscanini and Wagner are all good examples of this.
The incredible thing here is that this music, which sounds so beautiful to us, actually sounded like nothing but a chaotic magma of distorted sounds to many 19th century hearers. Wagner's innovative use of continuous tonal changes was something many were unprepared for then.
I read once that they had to abandon it initially after 70 rehearsals because it was so strange to the orchestra they found it impossible to play. I don't know how true that is, but it is fascinating how without an appropriate analog in reality, something as beautiful as Tristan und Isolde could be perceived so differently.
Sequences or semi-sequences abound in Wagner’s operas, whereby motives recur (possibly with slight alterations), transposed to other degrees. Schoenberg called this formal approach “developing variation” and it assists the listener in making the themes memorable.
The conductor does much more than just stand in front of the musicians. He reconstructs his own original interpretation of the piece with the musicians. In rehearsals he sets the tempo, highlights the parts of the piece he thinks are important, guides the soloists etc...
Para los amantes de la buena musica...!Festin del espiritu ! El disfrute de esta obra,es inalcanzable para los humildes ! !Gracias a las redes...Gracias R.S. Maria J. San Juan Estupinan de Novas.
S U P E R B. Excellence in beauty and elegance coming from Wagner -- and this wonderful rendition. // Thank you very much for placing this video here. [ On the other hand, now we know there are at least 131 strange and ugly aliens.]
I cut my teeth on Madame Butterfly and Tristan and Isolde at a young age, the precusor to painting with the backdrop of emotional, deeply felt, sensitive music only a impressionistic dreamer can appreciate.
One of the greatest pieces of composition ever. If you know anything about the story behind tristan and isolde, you know that its about the sexual tension he has along with all other feeling that come along with that. And you hear it so much in this prelude... This was also a great film score in Lars Von Triers MELANCHOLIA
@Gargantupimp It isn't the chord, in and of itself, it is how he treats it;he starts the chord but then stops, leaving it hanging in the air, returning to it during the love scene in the middle, but not resolving it till the end of the piece.
First time I heard Tristan und Isolde Kirsten Flagstad was Isolde and I thought it was the most amazing thing I had ever heard. Now I was 3 1/2 years old but my father said that I was entranced and made him play it again at least 5 times. That was 65 years ago and The Ring by Wagner is still my favorite set of operas. Please let generations to come be amazed, enthralled and swept up not only by Wagnet but all operatic composers who have given us a huge amount of fabulous music and boundless emotion, even if you don't know the language. I have cried so hard at some operas that my grandsons won't stay to the end, I embarrass them with my crying. God I love opera!
You would love listening to my shower renditions of Ave Maria then. The neighbors in the next apartment are always banging the walls in appreciation.
Ha ha ha!
Let's hope the music teachers in school can continue to do their jobs and hopefully teach the next generations the beauty of this art form, if one is not lucky to have it at home like you and I did.
Cheryl - listening to great music at an early agi can really affect you for the rest of your life. I was exposed to Italian opera, Sinatra and The Beatles at that age and I ended up becoming a musician. We should feel fortunate to have these moments when we were young and apparently you're still listening to the good stuff - thanks for sharing your story.
@@shmolouis Poor Ben's neighbours in 2020.
This melody proves that sadness is a beautiful feeling
of course!!! that's the mystical sadness... When I feel sad and I hear the saddest pices of wagner, I feel happy...
Emotions within a controlled environment can be beautiful.*
@@jacobshirley3457 I think that sadness encourages introspection and can be a catalyst for growth and change. It's beauty is in it's universality and part of being human is to experience and understand it.
what brilliant conducting. He is utterly in control, and perfectly unambiguous in his gestures.
Listen to Carlos Kleiber interpretation. And tell me.
I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO THIS. HELP.
Then don't stop, and MOTHER**** ENJOY, because this is ORGASM.
When I first discovered it I stayed up till 8am listening over and over.
A Very profound effect on me
bburago9 Haha yes : )
Hehe! I know that feeling.
There is no help. Once Wagner haunts you, your soul is lost.
nothing stirs the romantic sensibilities so profoundly as this piece of music. simply breathtaking!
I can only commend Wagner for this. I hate it when opera (not early music) singers start singing, but this is pure. What a gift he was.
I think that this is the single greatest classical piece I have ever heard. The tension is dramatic and overwhelming at times. I really do feel like the only being alive hearing it.
St Mathew Passion by Bach is transformative also.
Melancholia is going to pass right in front of us, and it'll be the most beautiful sight ever
If Hannibal Lecter doesn't handcuff us to the fridge first.
This music has nothing to do with melancholia....
@@Poragok well if you didn't know, the piece was actually in the movie.
@@Poragok lol 🤦🏻
One of the deepest pieces of music ever written brilliantly chosen to become a part of one of the depeest movies ever made.
Lars Von Trier, you are a genious.
I've never really listened to Wagner before. Seeing "Melancholia" shattered my lens. This piece haunts me, as does the film. I've decided to really listen to as much Wagner as I can find now. I always loved Schubert and Liszt, and now I'm hooked on Wagner even more. Incredible music.
I find the music from 1:42 to 3:44 incredibly moving: a mix of sadness, regret, maybe lost time or maybe a humble acceptance of one's human limits and flaws. Powerful and beautiful.
YES! those colossal strings @ 1:42, and then @ 7:28 - 7:42 never cease to give me goosebumps and make me teary eyed. Those lush cellos and glissandi from the cellos @ 7::37 also give me the chills. Masterpiece.
I don't think i'll ever create something this beautiful.
sucks to be you.
Nobody ever does, until they do.
1:40, when the whole orchestra comes in...has never...not ONCE...failed to give me butterflies.
Thank you Wagner. Thank you.
1:40
I, AM here because of Melancholia and am glad to have arrived. The movie, like Wagner's music & many great works of art can leads us to the most profound emotions & thoughts, even inspiring some to go beyond what we thought were their normal limits. Whether the viewer sees the film as a study of clinical depression, Sci-Fi catastrophe, or both, it is rare to find a film such an inspiration for exploring the boundaries of the human experience, but you gotta have an open mind to make the trip.
It doesn't get any better than this!
I loved Melancholia, though it frightened and saddened me immensely.. I knew Wagners Ouverture well before - but every time the music started in the film, my tears were just falling and falling. Thank you Wagner, and thank you Lars Von Trier (Don't bother about his comments - he is just a kid sometimes. He doesn't mean what he said)
Wagner really stretched the limits of musical traditions, especially in relation to harmony.
Wa Gamer House exactly !
How?
Wa Gamer House, ¡exactamente eso!
Grant C are you kidding? How he does it is with large 9th, 11th, and 13 chords, making the harmonies more dense and adding dissonance and color. This pushes the boundaries of tertian harmony and that was what the romantic era was all about. Don't ask how if you dot know anything about music history or theory because it will just go over your head
muh wigga used da foxy lady chord (measure 16)
"I can't even write a simple modulation" - Wagner
This is music at its most sublime- no composer before or since has reached so deeply into the human spirit than Wagner.
Great performance, Zubin gives Tepstead a run for his money. I like how he pinches the orchestra quiet, but even more so at 1:43 when he seems to conjure the next melodic phrasing into existence. Powerful stuff.
I cant find any information about tepstead, could you help?
My favorite classical piece - it tugs at your heartstrings!
I've just seen Melancholia and I got so caught up by the music... it's an amazing masterwork!
This music was here when you were born, it will be here when you are dead. Does that frighten or comfort you?
I was actually born the year before Wagner wrote this! Not long to go now...
@Arvid Borelius It doesn't frighten nor comfort, but rather, it fascinates me.
I guess I can live with it.
I don't care what Wagner believed in. A human being that has the sensibility to compose a masterpiece as amazingly beautiful, dramatic and filled with such sadness and love as this one .... he cannot be evil. It just isn't possible. I adore Wagner's music, and no matter what anyone says, he will live on forever through his music.
Why do people feel the need to argue, here and now, in front of a beautiful piece of music giving itself fully to us all? Sit back and enjoy the show--it will bring you peace. Be humble, that we don't have to go further than a few clicks to see a magical show.
All great preludes, introductions, etc. give the audience a clue to what they'll be hearing. Wagner does this as he gives hints of the coming melodies. Also, this is one of the first pieces of music using chromaticism. Absolutely brilliant!
First pieces of music using chromaticism? Strange statement. Have you heard Mozart's symphony 40? I'm sure you have. That's why it is a strange statement.
+Oscar Rubilar I think he means using chromaticism to this extent, certainly used differently to how Mozart uses it, and its effect on the whole not really resolving thing.
+Oscar Rubilar I am a Mozart lover and know his last 3 symphonies very well. He was a pretty conservative composer, and didn't even get into Bach until his twenties. His brilliance always showed in his variations, a precursor of Ravel. The Into of the E flat Symphony contains a C against a C# with nothing in between. the most dissonant interval. The audience must have held their ears. THAT was strange for Mozart and he never did it again.
I love the G minor, like so many people do. But I don't see any chromaticism in it. It would be unlike Mozart to do that. It is the Andante that is beyond description. The rise of the violins and the descending woodwinds bring tears to my eyes every time I hear it. No chromaticism . Just Mozart's genius.
+Bruce Robbins I suggest you watch "Bernstein on Mozart" uploaded here on youtube by paxwallacejazz, a lecture given by Leonard himself to a group of Harvard students in the 70's. He explains the intricate combinations of chromaticism and diatonicism in Mozart's Symphony No. 40 in G minor. It's really informational and fascinating!
At 7:15 he just keeps stretching it and stretching it and you can hear the resolution in your head, but Wagner just does not give it to you and it feels just so unsatisfying but at the same time beautiful.
The 'chords' are not standard, but still harmonious in a strange but powerful way. The successive notes are totally unexpected and my breath stops by itself. The sequence of notes gives neither a joyful nor a sad feeling, but rather a great Power coming in this world from other occult dimensions and stilling every movement by its power. Haven't heard anything like this ever.
In what way are they not standard?
Well said! That's probably why Tchaikovsky called Wagner: "The greatest symphonist since Beethoven". What he couldn't realise at that time was that Wagner actually opened the door to modern music, cinema and opera.
It's safe to say that 20th century music (not to mention the movie industry) is unthinkable without Wagner.
I would agree, I don't really see what is 'non-standard' about them, but I would also agree with your point of view: there is something deeply original and powerful about this aesthetic.
I don't have the technical knowledge, but I can tell what I feel in the music. For me chords are a harmony of different notes. And usually these notes blend together harmoniously. However here, you see at regular intervals, sudden coming together of a high note with a group of low notes, where the high note simply doesn't make sense - doesn't sound like a harmonious chord - so I called them 'non-standard'.
But this constant mixing of high and low notes produces an extremely strange feeling. Sometimes, the low notes themselves rise to the high note - producing the extreme pinnacle of feeling which can't be described and which stills the breath. Can't explain more.
I actually really like how you think about chords and music, because it's not theoretically standard but it's interestingly fresh. Normal theory books get so boring sometimes.
Isaac Stern played this for the movie Humoresque starring John Garfield & Joan Crawford it was transcribed for violin... After all these years and years I have never forgotten the violin interpretation... beautiful beyond all words
Say want you want about Wagner, but the one thing anyone can NEVER say about him, was he couldn't make you just feel.
Stop saying how many people dislike this or that. People love "disliking" things that everybody loves. That makes them feel special.
Good point. Being a CONTRARIAN makes you very special, one against the crowd. But it also can draw hatred in some situations, and some cultures. It can end up in violence, even death.
Like that's the only reason to dislike something, lol
@Alejandro Tello So, you're saying that if I dislike what the masses love, I'm probably doing it to feel special?
Um deleite aos meus ouvidos, não me esqueço do dia em que escutei pela primeira vez ao ver os créditos finais do filme Melancolia.
Wagner is one of my favourite composer. I descovered this wonderful Tristan & isolde Prelude when watching Melancholia on television. Un pur chef d'oeuvre.
I heard this in the film Melancholia. It sounds great there, but for me it's now forever melancholic.
+Jan Aike Yeah, that might work. To dilute the first impression with a flood of new ones.... not a bad idea to try.
I mean, the piece is actually supposed to be melancholic. This opera is...not a happy one.
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For me, it's always been melancholic music, so desolate sounding.
Melancholia uses this beautifully. You could almost describe the film as a music video for this piece of music, an alternative opera.
RUclips commenters are a funny lot. Some post honestly and bare their soul, hoping their words will connect with someone out in the depths of cyberspace. And then there are those who prey on those commenters and attack them in the most childish and hurtful of ways. Sad....
As for conductors, another post said it perfectly: a dynamic metronome. Music like this is best when there isn't a strict adherence to the limitations of the printed time scale. When there is a natural ebb and flow based on the emotion ingrained in the music itself. This is the conductors true purpose. To interpret a piece of music and guide the orchestra through its emotional landscape.
And its use in Melancholia was beautiful. The images in that movie haunt me. And some of the dialog..."Life on earth is evil. And not for long." And that final image. Remarkable, terrifying, beautiful.
Wagner wrote some of humankinds most emotionally potent music. Its true greatness shown in how it connects with audiences in its own way. Each person can take the music to mean whatever their soul needs it to mean.
Your sentiments as beautiful as the music
As for conductors, believe me emotions don't play aconsiderable role. Emotions are being generated inside the audience. Being a professional musician, a conductor is pure work, intellectual work. To interpret music, a musician has to remain very humble towards the composer and his masterpiece. The most part of the work of a conductor is behind the scene. At the rehearsals. The concert is only the peak of the iceberg.
You won the internets today, sir.
if you're sad, then hearing a piece like this will surely make you feel better. why?
in feelings of sadness, a sad piece make you sense "its me". and then these beautiful tunes are what make you feel better
This is wonderful music: it was a revolution to the classical music and opera. Wagner remains one of tthe greatest composers in history and nothing, not even the foulest action of him, let alone his political opinions, could change this fact.
I'm glad you brought that up. The use of Tristan & Isolde in that film was a stroke of genius.
There is no other sound like that of Wagner
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+Steve Seifer
Wagner is a genius.
But Bach is a greater one. Probably the greatest.
Ikr and this reminds me of Hayden's Creation
Gassed and mid@@truhl32
@figocooldude Thank you very much my friend. I was really looking for a movie to watch in this weekend!
The strange and beautiful movie Melancholia from Lars Von Trier. He know how to use the masterwork of our culture.
What gorgeous music! I am still fascinated with that Tristan chord that leads everywhere and nowhere. It is said to have already featured in Chopin's Ballade in g minor, but it would seem more in passing than as a main motive.
Imagine the orchestra as an instrument and the conductor as the person who plays it.
"...these bars from the prelude to Tristan do not express for us love or frustration or even longing; but they produce for us, both qualitatively and dynamically, certain gestures of the spirit which are to be sure less specifically definable than any of these emotions, but which energize them and make them vital to us... " excerpt from The Composer And His Message.
pura melancolia.. porem beliíssimo!!
I have seen the film Melancholia....Love it! It's beautiful and so is this piece.
Esse prelúdio é algo sem palavras...
Wagner é único
Everytime J listen Tristan und Isolde my eyes are full of tears......Wagner masterpiece....
Magnificent.
The greatest 10 minutes of music EVER written.
In my humble opinion.
98 ignorant fools dislike this. This is arguably the most important piece of music ever written.
vaya el unico listo eres tu. enhorabuena
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I don't speak mexican please post your comment in english
Franz G maintenant, qui est l'ignorant?
Actually it's one of the best, but then there's Barber's adagio, Rachmaninoff's Prelude 32.10, Chopin's Etude 25.12, but I'd put Wagner's piece and Barber's adagio about the closest in comparison for mood.
Certainly the most revolutionary. With Sacre du Printemps a bit later. But this broke all waves. The birth of the Romantic and Modern music.
This is my FAVOURITE piece ever! How many essays have I written on 'this'? I do not care! THIS IS GENIUS!
JUST LISTEN! That is all you need to do!
AMAZING! WOW!
Opposed to former Opera music, Wagner sometimes made the orchestra more important than the singer. Before Wagner the orchestra accompanied the singer, but often in Wagner´s music, The singer instead accompanies the orchestra!! Particularly evident is it in Liebestod in Tristan and Isolde. The music there: the climbing up chromatic melody, the increasing tension or agony, up to climax, and then --- the wonderful the resolution in major! And that climbing structure you can only hear in the orchestra, not in the soprano. If you think that the soprano has the melody, you get completely wrong. Because, the soprano a c c o m p a n i e s the orchestra. She is not singing that important upclimbing melody.
When I recently heard Tristan and Isolde at Metropolitan, in a theatre in Sweden, I was disappointed. The orchestra music was too weak and the singers too loud, especially in Liebestod. The orchestra wronly accompanied the singers.
Besides that the sopranos were singing with a permanent, loud, and horrible vibrato. That ever vibrato stands in the way of the melody! Wagner was innovative with a new kind of melody by the singers in Tristan and Isolde, a melody with an extended tonality. That extended tonality has the effect that you the whole time are expecting the resolution, the resolution in Liebestod. But that whole structure you cannot apprehend with that vibrato lying over it all. Don´t tell me the vibrato is necessary for matching the big orchestra. That´s a myth. The vibrato has been a particular form of art. Many people think that Opera is the art of vibrato singing.
Johan Cavalli
for anyone who is interested, this prelude by wagner is used repeatetely throughout the new film Melancholia directed by Lars Von Trier. It is the only major piece of music used repeatetely in the film. I'd consider it the theme music for the film.
I want this when IM dying,
Same 💗
I want this when we're *_ALL_* dying
Salvador Dalí died listening to this.
Let's get this dscussion back to the music, which is so magnificent. Great use of it in the film Melancholia, as others have observed, but those of you in or around Toronto, go see the Peter Sellars/Bill Viola production of Tristan und Isolde which is on now at the Four Seasons Centre. One of the greatest opera productions I've ever seen, all 5 1/2 hours of it. Ben Heppner is mazing but the Viola video makes it truly memorable.
every time i listen to this Wagner's prelude i find it truly amazingly moving!
Wagner's preludes were breathtakingly beautiful . . . my own favourite is Parsifal, but this is so incredibly passionate and romantic. Awesome music that sends tingles up and down my spine.
Yes, his Preludes are the music of heaven. Lohengrin is amazing as well.
Why the left channel higher in volume?
oh, i love the part on 06:51 to 07:33 !! is amazing, this interpretation is very excellent!! im wagnermaniac lol .. that strings so clearly on 06:06.. the violins 1 with the violins 2, so clearly and on 7:05 violins so expressive! EXCELLENT, on one of my favorite parts of this vorspiel.
Did the timestamps stop working lol
It actually made me feel somewhat better, really.
i can't describe this music, but you must think 'wide', very very wide, fluid not like water that goes fast, but fluid like honey because you can feel that intensity, very unique, and unique way of writing, melodies... very amazing.
This Prelude so perfectly fit the movie Melancholia !
This music is just one magnificent way of pulling on my heartstrings, intent on warming it, and opening my eyes to the sheer beauty and prowess that the piece exudes infinitely.
This "Tristan chord" doesn't really resolve but it's aesthetically pleasing... Milton Babbitt and John Cage took this "we won't resolve the chord" shit too far.
+Jos B Wagner was an hipster :P
+Jos B Or perhaps you were not willing to go far enough!
Of course it doesn't resolve .. and it shouldn't. That's the point.
Yes, I know. Lol but thank you.
Others went farther than Cage. Check out this poem: omstreifer.com/2012/10/10/opening-the-cage-14-variations-on-14-words/
Beautiful!! This overture was used in the movie Melancholia also.
MELANCHOLIA!
+Charlie Bury Watching it now. About 30 minutes at a time.
When the film came out, I felt like this music had been conceived for it, had been waiting around for 150 years for the consummation of being put together with von Trier's story and visuals. It transfixed me. Watched it 3 times in 2 days. I took it very seriously. Recently I heard von Trier calling it kitch, which I have to admit I see now (also).
Lars Von Trier gang
@@hedgehog5ful F**k Melancholia and Lars Von Trier, that movie will be forgotten in some decades or years, instead Richard Wagner will be remember for ever
So impressed by this man's conducting. So musical!!!!
Melancholia :)
Because 30+ people will never agree on the same time. He is an objective time keeper that everyone can follow. This is especially important if the song features formatas, accelerandos, abrupt tempo changes, etc. Also, during the rehearsals, he is the one that gives the group all of the tips they need in order to put the finishing touches on the performance. Comments such as, "accent this downbeat more, more crescendo here, hold this formata longer, play a bit softer." So, he's very important!
Una música súblim.
Appreciation and love for art and music brought be here.
Nietzsche brought me here.
:)
me too
God brought me here. ;-)
Ecce Homo!
God is dead
This is my first go for years at listening to a whole piece of Wagner. I like the opening but kept returning to my passive resistance mode to all the swirling about of waves of emotion. I appreciated the conducting more than the music.
cumbre del romanticismo
I watched the film Melancholia yesterday and i felt completely in love with the background music. It was familiar to me. I started to research, then I realized that the music was the prelude of Tristan und Isolde.
Golliwog's Cakewalk...
Yeah exaclty! There's like this one part in Golliwogs Cakewalk that sounds just like the Prelude.
@@one2play4 Because Debussy laughed at Wagner there :)
Wonderfully chosen theme for Lars von Trier's Melancholia. Loved every bit of it!
כפרה עליך זובי
Not only that, but what you see at the concert is the end result of very intense studies and hard practice. All this is organized and conceived by the conductor, who usually comes from a broad background of incredible knowledge and experience in classical music.
Karajan, Solti, Toscanini and Wagner are all good examples of this.
A expressão máxima dos sentimentos! Obra linda e ricamente regida pelo Zubin Mehta!
Perfeito!
Doing music revision for my exam and it suggested that I should listen to this piece, so glad I did!
ooo i forget the oboe solo, very beautyful and expressive.. SO EXPRESSIVE. excellent.
The incredible thing here is that this music, which sounds so beautiful to us, actually sounded like nothing but a chaotic magma of distorted sounds to many 19th century hearers. Wagner's innovative use of continuous tonal changes was something many were unprepared for then.
I read once that they had to abandon it initially after 70 rehearsals because it was so strange to the orchestra they found it impossible to play. I don't know how true that is, but it is fascinating how without an appropriate analog in reality, something as beautiful as Tristan und Isolde could be perceived so differently.
This may be the most romantic song ever written...I don't think any other tune makes me experience such a mysterious feeling of longing.
Sequences or semi-sequences abound in Wagner’s operas, whereby
motives recur (possibly with slight alterations), transposed to other degrees.
Schoenberg called this formal approach “developing variation” and it assists
the listener in making the themes memorable.
The conductor does much more than just stand in front of the musicians. He reconstructs his own original interpretation of the piece with the musicians. In rehearsals he sets the tempo, highlights the parts of the piece he thinks are important, guides the soloists etc...
@Gargantupimp the most innovative thing on the work is the non-resolution dissonance and the irregular resolution of the sensible note OF THE TONALITY
Para los amantes de la buena musica...!Festin del espiritu ! El disfrute de esta obra,es inalcanzable para los humildes ! !Gracias a las redes...Gracias R.S. Maria J. San Juan Estupinan de Novas.
Like is not enough. I am completely in love with this overture
@HerliMenezes Absolutely. And also the best ever musical representation of what it is like to be in love. Incredible.
S U P E R B. Excellence in beauty and elegance coming from Wagner -- and this wonderful rendition. // Thank you very much for placing this video here. [ On the other hand, now we know there are at least 131 strange and ugly aliens.]
@BizCasFri Best chord ever. Even before getting into Wagner I'd come across it in Jazz pieces and thought it should be used everywhere.
mehta is a just great conductor. thanks for posting!
I cut my teeth on Madame Butterfly and Tristan and Isolde at a young age, the precusor to painting with the backdrop of emotional, deeply felt, sensitive music only a impressionistic dreamer can appreciate.
like seriously, I cannot like this hard enough. gorgeous, gorgeous music.
What can one say about such music? It is of the stars and the human heart all at once. 'Hats off gentlemen--a genius' (to quote Schumann)
One of the greatest pieces of composition ever. If you know anything about the story behind tristan and isolde, you know that its about the sexual tension he has along with all other feeling that come along with that. And you hear it so much in this prelude... This was also a great film score in Lars Von Triers MELANCHOLIA
@Gargantupimp It isn't the chord, in and of itself, it is how he treats it;he starts the chord but then stops, leaving it hanging in the air, returning to it during the love scene in the middle, but not resolving it till the end of the piece.