As was this match. England weren’t involved. Fairly cringe of you to try to involve us. Pretty embarrassing, one click on your pfp and every comment is mentioning England. Utter whopper.
Maybe it's because we beat Scotland 4-0 just 3 months ago. Must still sting. Or was it the scottish having an offday? He tends to argue that whenever the dutch have a good game. It's never the dutch being good, it's always their opposition being bad or making them look good.
Frank is right. It also wasn't that boring of a game. France created enough chances to score and the Netherlands goal should have been given. England's matches have been more boring.
@@sobrevalorado the rules say that someo0ne who is not part of the attack cannot be offside. Dumpfries wasnt a part of it since he didnt touch the ball itself. You clearly dont know the rules yourself. It was a 100% goal and the obstruction part is just an excuse.
Frank has always been an honest man he was happy when Cristiano Ronaldo won 2016 Euro Cup and Messi won 2022 World Cup despite both won against France in the Final
Frank Lebeauf is right about the fact that the goal of Xavi should not have been disallowed. A player can only interfere with the game when the ball is in play. Anything that could possibly be interpreted as interference between Dumfries and Maignan happened after the ball assed the goalline and is therefore not relevant. Craig Burnley completely ignores this crucial point.
The rules don't care about whether the ball is in play, or whether the ball is heading towards goals. If a player kicks the ball away from the penalty area and is then fouled afterwards, when the ball is halfway headed towards the middle of the park, it's a penalty. It's insanity, but them's the rules
I watched the game, I actually didn't think it was boring at all even tho result was 0-0. France played som very good football and tried, while Netherlands defended more but had good attacks from time to time.
These guys have the attention spans of toddler. If there are no goals it's boring for them. I doubt they actually watch and analyse the game given the excessive focus in these talks on the specific players and quality of the side instead of the quality of play or the way teams play.
Hmmm... demolish us with their prolific scoring? Playing in an open game with no pressing, although tbf they did actually shoot which is more than England.
But that doesn't matter per the rules. A player in an offside position cannot be in an impeding position to a defensive player during a strike or forward attempt. I agree, it would have been a fully fair goal and the French could not have done anything, but rules exist.
@@Banned4Life depends how you interpret ‘impeding position’. In this case they thought about it long enough and made the wrong decision. This tells me they have below normal iq levels in that VAR room. Say, if the keeper was asleep and the player in the offside position was close to him would that make the play illegal?
@@k13tron doesnt matter, those are the rules, otherwise players would always run towards the goalkeeper and be offside and use that as some tactics to score so
For the first time in my life I agree with a french guy. The effing french goalie never attempted to stop the ball. He was out of position and was beaten. For this goal to be disallowed shows what a goons the british refs are.
Frank has always been an honest man he was happy when Cristiano Ronaldo won 2016 Euro Cup and Messi won 2022 World Cup despite both won against France in the Final
What is Craig saying… the Netherlands aren’t really much of a side🤔, with a few key injuries they are still playing solid, I think they could beat England, so why so much expectation around England, why all the credit saying this team should do this or this team should do that, but the Netherlands, oh the Netherlands are just some looney bin side, if The player is not standing there they would have beaten France, Maignan isn’t saving that with a man offside or not… desveredly chalked off
Craig is a clown haha. Netherlands hasn't lost a tournament game in regular time since the Czech Republic at the last euros. That says alot about that they are hard to beat, even the mighty messi with Argentina had to win by penalties. Unfortunately Netherlands has alot of injuries at the midfield though. Craig only looks at the premier league I think, has no clue about good players from other leagues.
This was not a boring match! Not all 0-0s are poor. There were parts that weren't great but the defending from both teams was good to watch. It definitely had it's moments too with France going after them towards the end and the disallowed goal for Netherlands.
They only lost to Argentina vs penalties lol, I dont even think him serious. Yes they have some injuries in the midfield, but the players in the midfield are still decent.
@@kevinmatthew1050 well Netherlands got the ball in the net and France have had zero goals so far throughout the whole tournament, whereas Holland have 2
Frank, as a Frenchman, was the only honest one about that called off goal. If the stupid rule has to be changed, so be it. Goals are important and if there is ANY uncertainty about the play the benefit of doubt should always go to the offense.
I disagree I thought it was a fascinating game from BOTH TEAMS.. . their analysis was harsh .both quality teams. France proved they can break down high quality opposition without kyliann mbappe.. unlucky with their finishing
If this offside goal was the other way around, the refs would've turned a blind eye and everyone knows it. I'm sure Anthony Taylor and the VAR team got a nice pay check after this game
The man on the right has no positive word about the Netherlands.. the france played better but did not score! The netherlands scored and got robbed. The france played better but should have lossed
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What are these pundits on about? Not trying to show my bias here as a Dutchman but in the repeat, from the side you could see there was space for Maignan to dive back to the goal near the line, which is what goalkeepers tend to do when they try to save long shots aimed at the corners of the goal. He also had clear vision on the trajectory of the ball, but barely recovered from the save prior. Dumfries was standing motionless, not behind Maignan (which would have been obstruction), but a bit in front of him and at least one meter away to his side. That leaves plenty of space for Maignan to dive. So I don't understand the claim that Maignan has nowhere to go. He just realized he wasn't in time to collect himself after that deflection and make a consecutive save. The attempt was also accurately placed. So he just made an appeal to the refs to disallow the goal. There was no response from the keeper, no answer, and certainly he knew where the ball was going looking out into the box and seeing Simons readying a second attempt.
@@photographyisnotacrime7300 And I'll be the first to admit it wasn't a great game and France probably should have won. Had you asked me before the match if I would be OK with the points being split I would have settled for that, absolutely without a doubt... And I still feel satisfied with the result. But I'm also left with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, given what it could mean for the eventual outcome in the group and the eventual match-ups for the eighth finals. Austria is no slouch either.
Yeah he stood motionless and immediately complained when the shot went in.. take a step back and make the dive.. and anyone who’s saying it was a call for obstructing the keeper’s line if sight is lying to themselves look at the positioning ffs
Anyone who thinks that was a valid offside has no sense of football. The goalkeeper was totally beaten. Dumfries being there or not it would have gone in, he was not standing in the way and he made no movement towards the ball. Add in that it took them so long to decide. It's not hard to judge of someone is offside or not. If it takes you 3 min to decide whether it was offside then the goal should just be allowed because all they're doing at that point is trying to rationalize the offside when it clearly isn't.
Except there's a huge hole in your argument: Dumfries was offside before Simmons touched the ball so the line referee should have whistled before the strike
Holland has a gigantic defensive line and scoring against them is tough for any team. France have speedy attackers that have to get behind the defense but its not happening. Simple
They sound like French fan boys, yes France is good but you cant discredit how well the Netherlands played. They really are the dark horses this tournament
France have played poorly and still won or played well in competitions pretty recently, so that’s why they still back France to achieve something, it’s not rocket science. The Dutch on the other hand have to prove themselves before they get the benefit of the doubt simple
Boring? I disagree. Simmons goal also need to stand. France supporters face were more confused and surprised rather than happy when that goal were disallowed.
The goalkeeper had all the room in the world AND dumfries wasnt obstructing his view. The keeper didnt even go for the ball and even if he had dimfries wouldnt have been in the way since he was to the left and in front of him. Absolutely clear goal got disallowed
These guys watching a match for the first time? Goal or not doesn’t even matter, it was a high level game. Not great to watch but obviously 2 very strong teams.
The fifa generation. If the game ain’t 5-5 with a penalty shoot out , it isn’t good. But this is for the casual fan, so that’s what they promote. That game was awesome. Kante and tchouimeni and Saliba looked magnificent. Gakpo and reijnders also impressed
I want to congratulate not only UEFA, but also the European organizations and the European fans, as a Brazilian, I can say with all the doubts that you provided with this Euro, a true world cup experience, honestly, everything was impeccable, the parties, the rules in place, the beautiful game, the players, it really looked like a World Cup, I hope you maintain this level of beauty in 2024, so the world will have the pleasure of being able to witness a biennial World Cup 😁😁😁🇧🇷 🇪🇺
Yet, they still don't ridicule and criticize individuals and ask them to be benched, the same way they criticize Ronaldo. The team overall hasn't performed as well as expected, and players should not be singled out, but if they are pin-pointing Ronaldo, then keep the same standard while analysing other teams and players.
Stop bring up Ronaldo to every conversation and you wonder why ppl hate you for being his fans , the French media is ripping off their team , so did the English media and others , not everything revolves around Ronaldo and nobody really went after Ronaldo after his performance because nobody is expecting anythingbig from him in this Euros @bilalmateen1983
@@Trance18 sounds like you have not been following content and analysis on this ESPN channel. It's them who actually keep bringing up Ronaldo and whether he should be selected even though he performs on a level par with most top international players. And my point is if you want to criticize individual players rather than teams, then do it with every game and with every country. They talk about England and France as you said but there's a difference, they are not laying blame on individuals and calling for them to be benched.
On my opinion, netherlands could do better but they defended their side well. France took far too many long shots. It wasn't boring though... Very interesting game! Both have proven themselves, let's see how it goes. Netherlands must become bolder.
I don't know what people are so high on Dembele? The comments Frank made about the way he plays is something I have watched every time I have seen him play. He's all flash and no end product!
@@SC.KINGDOM Argentina didn’t have the most stacked squad by any means yet they still won the World Cup? Netherlands took them to OT so you can’t entirely base your argument on what country is more stacked
@@SC.KINGDOM Nah the english are just higher rated than they actually are because of the quality of the premier league. Put an ok defender in a team like Man City and he's gonna look very good. I could say the same for the english, the only players from your squad that would get in are Kane, Bellingham and maybe Saka. The others are inferior or equal in terms of quality.
That was almost as dull as the ENG DEN debacle. France look blumt without Mbappe, Dembele is shocking, Griezmann is past it and losing Kante to a potential injury could derail France. The Netherlands are just okay.
Holland is a good team they are lot better than England and Scotland combined plus the match was good for me because both team probably have the best defenders in the tournament I'd go as far as to say the world
England have far better forwards than the Netherlands. You're telling me Gakpo and Deepay are better than Kane, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Palmer etc? Gakpo only scored 8 goals last season.
I don't think so. But it's interesting to me that people are calling this a robbery when we all witnessed a more blatant one against Argentina. But people instead ignored that one and clowned on the Netherlands. People let their love of messi blind them. Real ball knowers will never forgive the casual ball fan.
Frank being the sensible person..it's sad Craig can't own up cause hw already said the Dutch are not going far so he can't contradict himself and say they deserve to win and it was agoal....it was a horrendous decision to say the least
He is hindering, it's an active off side. See it as a whole, the whole team can reacts differently if a player is behind. And are you aware that if the Dutch player is positionned more on the left or even on side, he can block the strike.
Go to a concert if you want entertainment, we love the vintage Italian football of Deschamps and Ancelotti etc. A braindead generation, that games of 1000 passes and speed imposed by Pep really didn't help this generation understand Football. You know theirs another to win and play football since 1950. You some little TikTok highlights go to a CONCERT !
This game was a testament for how Mbappe dependant this current French side is. France and Netherlands were in the same qualification group, and Mbappe scored a brace in both of those games, plus an assist in the home game. France had taken the lead in both of those games within 10 minutes.
Qualifiers is different than tournament games, Netherlands hasn't lost a Tournament game in regular time since their lose in the last euros. Could they win with Mbappe today? Maybe, but he didn't score against Austria also or in the champions league games.
Well he is one of the greatest players in history so it's not surprising there is some adjustment. Same will happen to Real Madrid when he is injured, the rest of the team will have to step up.
@@RussingtonS4678stop saying mbappe is one of the greatest Ah what has he really played....ah it pisses me off these days the way we use these words....that means all the people that have won world cups before even from the bench are one of the greatest....even neymar that is a pure football artist have not been given this accolade, then we keep hyping up these guys....
What this game was really proof of is that the new 3th place rule is just boring... Another adjustment to an already perfect tournament Both teams were fine with a 1-1 and it showed
It was ruled out on account of the Dutch player being in an offside position and obstructing the dive to make a second stop. Not because he was obstructing Magic Mike’s view. Absolute correct call. But yes it shouldn’t have taken that long.
Experts are not supposed to think emotionally. Rules are rules and if you can't accept them, keep crying. France dominated the Netherlands for most of the match and so the draw was deserved and if any country deserved more than the draw, it was France. And I'm not French but I'm not one of those who hate France.
for those saying Netherlands got robbedThe rule is: no opposition player should obstruct the goalkeeper or block his vision of any potential goal attempt. The player was on the side of the maignan where maignan is supposed to dive to save the attempt, and the player is also offside. It doesnt matter if maignan “would have” or “ couldn’t have” made the save or not, the rule is simple and doesnt involve ifs, buts, woulds or maybes. hence it was offside
Instead of being honest about France's poor displays in and leading up to the tournament people look for excuses. They've been far from convincing. Instead Germany and Italy get put under a microscope, and in the case of the English and the french its excuses galore.
To be honest, it was offside. Dumfries should have rushed behind the goal line, knowing that if someone shoots, he will never be in the way of the goalkeeper.
That rule about a player being offside and not interfering was meant to avoid a goal being disallowed for an attacking player being ..at the corner flag (to give an extreme example). Offside and so close to the keeper is interfering.
It was not a boring game... Only England games are boring... Both teams created chances to win the game... Netherlands goal should have stood only English refree can predict the future that Maignan pulls out a world class save to stop that shot
it was a valid goal, pure and simple. He didnt intervere. the goalkeeper was too late, the ball was already in the net before he could dive. He saw ittoo late, and that was not because of dumvries.
"France played so bad they made the Netherlands look reasonable" (paraphrasing). Well, these English hosts are so terrible in their analysis they make a French man look sensible. Obviously I am biased, as a Dutch man, but the objectivity of Frank is all the more impressive to me in that light. Judging by the match statistics it is not immediately obvious, but I do think France played more relaxed, say content with the draw to save energy than us, but our disallowed goal gives hope regardless. Also, isn't Anthony Taylor the bald c-word from 2010? That guy should never be allowed to referee a game with the Netherlands involved tbh.
Frank is a great commentator -- but if i may, some French terms are getting lost in translation in English, ie he says 'an action' but i think he means 'a move'.
It's probably cause we washed his national squad 4-0 just 3 months ago. Notice how he never gives credit. If the dutch do well it's always cause the opponent had an off day.
@@jellebigge He isn't, I'm actually doubting these guys are watching the games with full attention. Every game seems boring for them, even if they aren't and they always speak about the teams as one being better on paper and not getting the result needed. You never actually hear them discuss the style or quality of play, which is the only thing I'm expecting from analysts. If England draw I don't need a pundit to tell me that's not a good result for them, I am interested in how they were playing tho, that's what the pundits are for.,
Why so negative about the Dutch side? Looking waaaay stronger than England and way more fun to watch.
English like EPL are very over rated players, average players are being touted as golden players & even Coach is stupid
Boring match were the ones in which England played
As was this match. England weren’t involved. Fairly cringe of you to try to involve us. Pretty embarrassing, one click on your pfp and every comment is mentioning England. Utter whopper.
Of course you’re a cow worshipper 😭
Of course you’re a cow worshipper 😭
England score 2 goals but France haven't scored a goal yet😂
England living rent free again
Dutch have been massively underrated. Remember they went out against Argentina in quarter finals on penalties. Craig is bias as usual.
Maybe it's because we beat Scotland 4-0 just 3 months ago. Must still sting. Or was it the scottish having an offday? He tends to argue that whenever the dutch have a good game. It's never the dutch being good, it's always their opposition being bad or making them look good.
@@nielsvanheterenspot on😂
Frank is right. It also wasn't that boring of a game. France created enough chances to score and the Netherlands goal should have been given. England's matches have been more boring.
Not even slightly, but sure kiddo😂
Classic English arrogance. I love English people don’t get me wrong but they have a whole bunch that are absolutely clueless about football
The ball was in the back of the net before the keeper could even react! It was a goal!
It does it matter. Read thr rules
How do you know he wouldn't have reacted if Dumfries hadn't been there? Him being so close to the keeper while being offside IS interfering
@@sobrevalorado the rules say that someo0ne who is not part of the attack cannot be offside. Dumpfries wasnt a part of it since he didnt touch the ball itself. You clearly dont know the rules yourself. It was a 100% goal and the obstruction part is just an excuse.
@@fuddilicious6020he may not be part of the attack, but he was clearly impeding the keeper
@@jojolouis Mate he just made a save and the ball went to Xavi, he had no time to react
Why it is always dutch to suffer because of referees in these major tournaments 😠
They both valued a point which is smart ..it’s a tournament not a league match
France and england learning that negative football kills the fans and doesnt get you as far as youd think. Spain and germany are the clear favorites.
germany aren't much better . they play boring football as well. they are just looking good facing mediocre competition
@@Fraudkovic That’s what you think man
Turkey, Germany and Netherlands will go further than France and England. I don't know about Spain they're struggling against low block too
@@Lancarsunny wanna bet on that?
@@DukeOfParisyes. Tell me more about this bet on turkey? Looking forward to hear that lol
Frank is right on the offside goal ... an honest man
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Frank has always been an honest man he was happy when Cristiano Ronaldo won 2016 Euro Cup and Messi won 2022 World Cup despite both won against France in the Final
class lad
Except that he is wrong Maignan tries to go towards the ball but is prevented by Xavi Simons on his way. We can see it very clearly on the VAR.
Goal for him..
Frank Lebeauf is right about the fact that the goal of Xavi should not have been disallowed. A player can only interfere with the game when the ball is in play. Anything that could possibly be interpreted as interference between Dumfries and Maignan happened after the ball assed the goalline and is therefore not relevant. Craig Burnley completely ignores this crucial point.
Who cares about his “opinion” rules are rules
The rules don't care about whether the ball is in play, or whether the ball is heading towards goals. If a player kicks the ball away from the penalty area and is then fouled afterwards, when the ball is halfway headed towards the middle of the park, it's a penalty. It's insanity, but them's the rules
I watched the game, I actually didn't think it was boring at all even tho result was 0-0. France played som very good football and tried, while Netherlands defended more but had good attacks from time to time.
These guys have the attention spans of toddler. If there are no goals it's boring for them. I doubt they actually watch and analyse the game given the excessive focus in these talks on the specific players and quality of the side instead of the quality of play or the way teams play.
These pundits acting like both france and holland wouldn’t actually demolish england
Hmmm... demolish us with their prolific scoring? Playing in an open game with no pressing, although tbf they did actually shoot which is more than England.
I wouldn't say demolish. But yeah, either of them would certainly beat England
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Argentina beat all two of them in the world cup so I must say south American football is better💯
@@DexterDennyMessi should have gotten a red card tho 🤫
That goal should have stood. The keeper didn’t even try to move nor did he have time to. Xavi placed that ball perfectly with power. Absolute robbery.
But that doesn't matter per the rules. A player in an offside position cannot be in an impeding position to a defensive player during a strike or forward attempt. I agree, it would have been a fully fair goal and the French could not have done anything, but rules exist.
Revenge for that Ecuador game in the World Cup
@@Banned4Life depends how you interpret ‘impeding position’. In this case they thought about it long enough and made the wrong decision. This tells me they have below normal iq levels in that VAR room. Say, if the keeper was asleep and the player in the offside position was close to him would that make the play illegal?
Doesn't matter: Dumfries still off-side
@@k13tron doesnt matter, those are the rules, otherwise players would always run towards the goalkeeper and be offside and use that as some tactics to score so
For the first time in my life I agree with a french guy. The effing french goalie never attempted to stop the ball. He was out of position and was beaten. For this goal to be disallowed shows what a goons the british refs are.
british ref tried to be unbiased against the french but overcorrected in the process 😂
Frank has always been an honest man he was happy when Cristiano Ronaldo won 2016 Euro Cup and Messi won 2022 World Cup despite both won against France in the Final
Hopefully you at least agree with your mom. Apparently you agree with no one
The goal keeper had no chance because of the pace of the ball,Netherlands clearly robbed
His own defender blocked him from seeing the ball
What is Craig saying… the Netherlands aren’t really much of a side🤔, with a few key injuries they are still playing solid, I think they could beat England, so why so much expectation around England, why all the credit saying this team should do this or this team should do that, but the Netherlands, oh the Netherlands are just some looney bin side, if The player is not standing there they would have beaten France, Maignan isn’t saving that with a man offside or not… desveredly chalked off
Another Dutch Hater😡
Craig is a clown haha. Netherlands hasn't lost a tournament game in regular time since the Czech Republic at the last euros. That says alot about that they are hard to beat, even the mighty messi with Argentina had to win by penalties. Unfortunately Netherlands has alot of injuries at the midfield though. Craig only looks at the premier league I think, has no clue about good players from other leagues.
Craig is clearly a moron, so negative about Netherlands
Thanks for this comment, I first paused the video to read some comments, and now I know I dont have to watch it further.
You think Craig has expectations for England? Have you been watching the show?
This was not a boring match! Not all 0-0s are poor. There were parts that weren't great but the defending from both teams was good to watch. It definitely had it's moments too with France going after them towards the end and the disallowed goal for Netherlands.
I thought it was a good game. Dutch a bit unlucky with a good goal
We Dutch are always unlucky
Craig Burley clearly has some sort of grudge against Holland... Can't he just admit Netherlands team is a strong contender in the competition?
They only lost to Argentina vs penalties lol, I dont even think him serious. Yes they have some injuries in the midfield, but the players in the midfield are still decent.
@@Denyo666 the guy's a joke. If I was in charge of ESPN FC staff, I'd have let him go a long time ago
They aren't that good. France should have had like 4 goals if they knew how to finish. Missed so easy chances.
@@kevinmatthew1050 well Netherlands got the ball in the net and France have had zero goals so far throughout the whole tournament, whereas Holland have 2
@@kevinmatthew1050 because france is england 2.0. Both play rubbish football
Dutch defender didnt block the keeper so the goal should stand. I agree with Shearer and Rooney.
Frank, as a Frenchman, was the only honest one about that called off goal. If the stupid rule has to be changed, so be it. Goals are important and if there is ANY uncertainty about the play the benefit of doubt should always go to the offense.
pas du tout d'accord sinon cela va créer des dizaines de situations inextricables et encore plus renforcer les mauvaises décisions pendant les matchs
I disagree I thought it was a fascinating game from BOTH TEAMS.. . their analysis was harsh .both quality teams.
France proved they can break down high quality opposition without kyliann mbappe.. unlucky with their finishing
If this offside goal was the other way around, the refs would've turned a blind eye and everyone knows it. I'm sure Anthony Taylor and the VAR team got a nice pay check after this game
The man on the right has no positive word about the Netherlands.. the france played better but did not score! The netherlands scored and got robbed. The france played better but should have lossed
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A great 1-0 win for the Dutch.
They are therefore already qualified even if they were dominated for most of the match. Three points obtained thanks to social media experts. Lol
Cope
What are these pundits on about? Not trying to show my bias here as a Dutchman but in the repeat, from the side you could see there was space for Maignan to dive back to the goal near the line, which is what goalkeepers tend to do when they try to save long shots aimed at the corners of the goal. He also had clear vision on the trajectory of the ball, but barely recovered from the save prior. Dumfries was standing motionless, not behind Maignan (which would have been obstruction), but a bit in front of him and at least one meter away to his side. That leaves plenty of space for Maignan to dive. So I don't understand the claim that Maignan has nowhere to go. He just realized he wasn't in time to collect himself after that deflection and make a consecutive save. The attempt was also accurately placed. So he just made an appeal to the refs to disallow the goal. There was no response from the keeper, no answer, and certainly he knew where the ball was going looking out into the box and seeing Simons readying a second attempt.
fully agree.
@@photographyisnotacrime7300 And I'll be the first to admit it wasn't a great game and France probably should have won.
Had you asked me before the match if I would be OK with the points being split I would have settled for that, absolutely without a doubt... And I still feel satisfied with the result. But I'm also left with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, given what it could mean for the eventual outcome in the group and the eventual match-ups for the eighth finals.
Austria is no slouch either.
Yeah he stood motionless and immediately complained when the shot went in.. take a step back and make the dive.. and anyone who’s saying it was a call for obstructing the keeper’s line if sight is lying to themselves look at the positioning ffs
Anyone who thinks that was a valid offside has no sense of football. The goalkeeper was totally beaten. Dumfries being there or not it would have gone in, he was not standing in the way and he made no movement towards the ball. Add in that it took them so long to decide. It's not hard to judge of someone is offside or not. If it takes you 3 min to decide whether it was offside then the goal should just be allowed because all they're doing at that point is trying to rationalize the offside when it clearly isn't.
Except there's a huge hole in your argument: Dumfries was offside before Simmons touched the ball so the line referee should have whistled before the strike
Holland has a gigantic defensive line and scoring against them is tough for any team. France have speedy attackers that have to get behind the defense but its not happening. Simple
That goal shouldn’t have been disallowed.. The law of the game is terrible.. 😢
That was an awesome game... these pepple are pro pundits.. let that sink in..
They sound like French fan boys, yes France is good but you cant discredit how well the Netherlands played. They really are the dark horses this tournament
how are they dark horses when they have a decent chance of winning it
France have played poorly and still won or played well in competitions pretty recently, so that’s why they still back France to achieve something, it’s not rocket science. The Dutch on the other hand have to prove themselves before they get the benefit of the doubt simple
Netherlands didn't play good, did you watch the second part of the match? They did nothing.
They didn't play well neither did France
It looked like both didn't wanna win and were happy with a draw
dark goats maybe
Boring? I disagree. Simmons goal also need to stand. France supporters face were more confused and surprised rather than happy when that goal were disallowed.
The goalkeeper had all the room in the world AND dumfries wasnt obstructing his view. The keeper didnt even go for the ball and even if he had dimfries wouldnt have been in the way since he was to the left and in front of him. Absolutely clear goal got disallowed
That was a Goal. Come on guys
Austria vs Holland should be some game
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I think the dutch are going to win, hopefully they do because we really need this win.
Easy win Netherlands 3-0
@@waso778you will be surprised
I think Southgate has been tryna copy Deschamps defensive approach since after the 2018 world cup.
Craig Burley the dour, cranky, grim outlook Scot strikes another blow for low energy spoofers everywhere
Deschamps is who the FA think Southgate is...
WC and EURO🐒
Absolutely pointless to ask British pundits about a decision of a British Ref.
These guys watching a match for the first time? Goal or not doesn’t even matter, it was a high level game. Not great to watch but obviously 2 very strong teams.
The fifa generation. If the game ain’t 5-5 with a penalty shoot out , it isn’t good. But this is for the casual fan, so that’s what they promote. That game was awesome. Kante and tchouimeni and Saliba looked magnificent. Gakpo and reijnders also impressed
Thank you Frank that's very honest of you. Much respect.
I want to congratulate not only UEFA, but also the European organizations and the European fans, as a Brazilian, I can say with all the doubts that you provided with this Euro, a true world cup experience, honestly, everything was impeccable, the parties, the rules in place, the beautiful game, the players, it really looked like a World Cup, I hope you maintain this level of beauty in 2024, so the world will have the pleasure of being able to witness a biennial World Cup 😁😁😁🇧🇷 🇪🇺
I wonder how these guys feel about the 2010 final where another English ref missed the corner which resulted in a goal in minute 120...
Reminder: France are yet to score in this Euros 🤣
Yet, they still don't ridicule and criticize individuals and ask them to be benched, the same way they criticize Ronaldo. The team overall hasn't performed as well as expected, and players should not be singled out, but if they are pin-pointing Ronaldo, then keep the same standard while analysing other teams and players.
Stop bring up Ronaldo to every conversation and you wonder why ppl hate you for being his fans , the French media is ripping off their team , so did the English media and others , not everything revolves around Ronaldo and nobody really went after Ronaldo after his performance because nobody is expecting anythingbig from him in this Euros @bilalmateen1983
@@Trance18 sounds like you have not been following content and analysis on this ESPN channel. It's them who actually keep bringing up Ronaldo and whether he should be selected even though he performs on a level par with most top international players. And my point is if you want to criticize individual players rather than teams, then do it with every game and with every country. They talk about England and France as you said but there's a difference, they are not laying blame on individuals and calling for them to be benched.
Nonetheless, Holland is apparently the team that can't score ;)
And they criticize Spain for their ability to score and Spain already scored 3 in the group of death
The GK didn't make a move. So how is Dumfries interfering?
France looked absolutely lost when it came to tapping the ball into the net. They're clearly far too reliant on Mbappe to do this for them.
Which is a problem, because even without him they should be able to do that.
Holland arguably has the best defence in the Euro's.
Pity about the rest of the team.
On my opinion, netherlands could do better but they defended their side well.
France took far too many long shots.
It wasn't boring though...
Very interesting game!
Both have proven themselves, let's see how it goes.
Netherlands must become bolder.
Fair play for trying twice
I don't know what people are so high on Dembele? The comments Frank made about the way he plays is something I have watched every time I have seen him play. He's all flash and no end product!
Did the guy really just say Netherlands was an okay side?
No dutch player would get into the england team 😢
@@SC.KINGDOM Argentina didn’t have the most stacked squad by any means yet they still won the World Cup? Netherlands took them to OT so you can’t entirely base your argument on what country is more stacked
@@SC.KINGDOM Van Dijk and Ake wouldn't play CB and LB in the current English team?
Based on Fodens performance even Gakpo could get in 😂😂😂
@@SC.KINGDOM Nah the english are just higher rated than they actually are because of the quality of the premier league. Put an ok defender in a team like Man City and he's gonna look very good. I could say the same for the english, the only players from your squad that would get in are Kane, Bellingham and maybe Saka. The others are inferior or equal in terms of quality.
Yet people still say AFCON is not on the same level. It feels as if it’s a two edged sword.
Fair game guys
"Dembele Almost" 🤣
Always almost😅
😂😂
Without mbappe they look like average
Worst player ever. All bark and no bite. Pointless.
I think the comments make much more sense here than the show
Dan is crazy 🤣 what game was he watching? That was an entertaining game
France usually don’t start competition well but somehow always end up in the final or semi
That was almost as dull as the ENG DEN debacle. France look blumt without Mbappe, Dembele is shocking, Griezmann is past it and losing Kante to a potential injury could derail France. The Netherlands are just okay.
It was a good game. The only boring games are the ones England have played so far.
Holland is a good team they are lot better than England and Scotland combined plus the match was good for me because both team probably have the best defenders in the tournament I'd go as far as to say the world
England have far better forwards than the Netherlands. You're telling me Gakpo and Deepay are better than Kane, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Palmer etc? Gakpo only scored 8 goals last season.
@@alexojideagu He's talking about defenders
@@defrankenSure defensively the Dutch are better.
@@alexojideagu As a Team Holland is better than England though England might have the better overall players
@@alexojideaguThis aint fifa, having better players on paper doesn't make u a better team, PSG a clear example of that
France were the better team, and they should have won. Nonetheless, Netherlands goal should have been given.
If the goal from the Netherlands was given.. the French would've lost?
@@VonDutchNL You right. It still doesn't dispute the fact that France were the better team.
Holland 🇳🇱 was robbed
Your parents were robbed when they took you to school
I recommend you to watch games on bigger screens,that might help you
Bruh said not as boring as you pretended😂😂 says a lot
Just like France 🇫🇷 today. PSG, too, will come to know the value of missing Kylian Mbappe in the team. France were completely out of it without him.
I thought both sides played well, but I must agree with frank, that should have been a Netherlands goal. But hey it's football.
Netherlands robbed
Why’s it always the English refs who make calls they make it seem like match fixing?
Shut up. Why is everyone hating on France? I bet you would say Offside if it was Netherlands
I don't think so. But it's interesting to me that people are calling this a robbery when we all witnessed a more blatant one against Argentina. But people instead ignored that one and clowned on the Netherlands. People let their love of messi blind them. Real ball knowers will never forgive the casual ball fan.
Offside
Victim dutches😂
Frank being the sensible person..it's sad Craig can't own up cause hw already said the Dutch are not going far so he can't contradict himself and say they deserve to win and it was agoal....it was a horrendous decision to say the least
Sorry to say but that guy on the right side of the table seems to have no clue of what happens on a football field.
Which team have you played for?
@@dreddmann6532 You don't need to have played for a team to have a lot of knowledge of football
@@dreddmann6532 I don't need a football career to know BS when I hear it. Maybe something you should do to, forming your own opinion. :)
@@ContagiousSpongeif you say so.
@@Semmy27 so you don't think your opinion is the BS one?
English Refs ruining the Euros the same way they did the Premier League😂
These pundit are so biased, so Netherland’s isn’t a contender but England is ???
Whats with the Dembele hate? He missed one shot, played safer passes. Greizman was the problem today, not Dembele.
Don’t mind them they only hate Dembele
Dutch side got robbed. And not a prolific team? Scored 10 goals in the last 4 matches, including this 0-0.
He is hindering, it's an active off side. See it as a whole, the whole team can reacts differently if a player is behind. And are you aware that if the Dutch player is positionned more on the left or even on side, he can block the strike.
Cant Belive only Frank talk sense.Mike Migan didnt bother to dive.
A sham match. Both sides played for a draw for 90 minutes. Fans should demand their $$ back.
looked exactly like france denmark 0-0 in 2018 groupstage lol
Go to a concert if you want entertainment, we love the vintage Italian football of Deschamps and Ancelotti etc. A braindead generation, that games of 1000 passes and speed imposed by Pep really didn't help this generation understand Football. You know theirs another to win and play football since 1950. You some little TikTok highlights go to a CONCERT !
Just cos a game ends goalless doesn’t mean it was boring. England was a boring game - this def was not
This game was a testament for how Mbappe dependant this current French side is. France and Netherlands were in the same qualification group, and Mbappe scored a brace in both of those games, plus an assist in the home game. France had taken the lead in both of those games within 10 minutes.
But DD didn't even try to replace Mbappé with Coman, instead he put in another DM with Tchouameni. DD played for the draw today it seems.
Qualifiers is different than tournament games, Netherlands hasn't lost a Tournament game in regular time since their lose in the last euros. Could they win with Mbappe today? Maybe, but he didn't score against Austria also or in the champions league games.
Well he is one of the greatest players in history so it's not surprising there is some adjustment. Same will happen to Real Madrid when he is injured, the rest of the team will have to step up.
They literally had three perfect chances that Griezzy squandered. Their attack seemed to work, it was just Griez that turned into a league 4 player
@@RussingtonS4678stop saying mbappe is one of the greatest Ah what has he really played....ah it pisses me off these days the way we use these words....that means all the people that have won world cups before even from the bench are one of the greatest....even neymar that is a pure football artist have not been given this accolade, then we keep hyping up these guys....
No game was boring more than the England games🥱🥱
What this game was really proof of is that the new 3th place rule is just boring...
Another adjustment to an already perfect tournament
Both teams were fine with a 1-1 and it showed
Both teams agreed that neither of them should lose the game.
The keeper never reacted to the goal, how can Dumpfries interfere.
VARball is in full effect
"A boring game"... I don't detect any sarcasm
Frank is spot on about Dembele. “Almost” 🤣
Own goal from Austria and now a not given goal for Netherlands. France will win the EM without any contribution!
It was ruled out on account of the Dutch player being in an offside position and obstructing the dive to make a second stop. Not because he was obstructing Magic Mike’s view.
Absolute correct call. But yes it shouldn’t have taken that long.
The French team play like Real Madrid, you won't necessarily enjoy it but they'll be damned if they lose to you
These pundits are soo stupid, that was a robbery
Experts are not supposed to think emotionally. Rules are rules and if you can't accept them, keep crying. France dominated the Netherlands for most of the match and so the draw was deserved and if any country deserved more than the draw, it was France. And I'm not French but I'm not one of those who hate France.
for those saying Netherlands got robbedThe rule is: no opposition player should obstruct the goalkeeper or block his vision of any potential goal attempt. The player was on the side of the maignan where maignan is supposed to dive to save the attempt, and the player is also offside. It doesnt matter if maignan “would have” or “ couldn’t have” made the save or not, the rule is simple and doesnt involve ifs, buts, woulds or maybes. hence it was offside
As a Dutch person I agree, it's harsh but fair. All in all a draw is a pretty decent result for both sides I'd say.
Kylian Mbappe was deeply missed..... deeply
Instead of being honest about France's poor displays in and leading up to the tournament people look for excuses. They've been far from convincing. Instead Germany and Italy get put under a microscope, and in the case of the English and the french its excuses galore.
To be honest, it was offside. Dumfries should have rushed behind the goal line, knowing that if someone shoots, he will never be in the way of the goalkeeper.
If the netherlands are not that good of a side then england is dramatic, because they’re definitely better
This felt like a knockout game i dont think any of the teams went out of second gear and rightly so theres a lot more games to play
The ref and var were english.. not a surprise the officiating was bad
English referee should be ban.
That rule about a player being offside and not interfering was meant to avoid a goal being disallowed for an attacking player being ..at the corner flag (to give an extreme example). Offside and so close to the keeper is interfering.
Xavis goal was legit.
It was not a boring game... Only England games are boring... Both teams created chances to win the game... Netherlands goal should have stood only English refree can predict the future that Maignan pulls out a world class save to stop that shot
it was a valid goal, pure and simple. He didnt intervere. the goalkeeper was too late, the ball was already in the net before he could dive. He saw ittoo late, and that was not because of dumvries.
"France played so bad they made the Netherlands look reasonable" (paraphrasing). Well, these English hosts are so terrible in their analysis they make a French man look sensible. Obviously I am biased, as a Dutch man, but the objectivity of Frank is all the more impressive to me in that light. Judging by the match statistics it is not immediately obvious, but I do think France played more relaxed, say content with the draw to save energy than us, but our disallowed goal gives hope regardless. Also, isn't Anthony Taylor the bald c-word from 2010? That guy should never be allowed to referee a game with the Netherlands involved tbh.
nah its definitely a goal, thats impossible to save.
Frank is a great commentator -- but if i may, some French terms are getting lost in translation in English, ie he says 'an action' but i think he means 'a move'.
He also say ‘ you pretend’ instead of ‘you claim’
Where does the hate from Craig about Netherlands always come from?
It's probably cause we washed his national squad 4-0 just 3 months ago. Notice how he never gives credit. If the dutch do well it's always cause the opponent had an off day.
@@nielsvanheteren Than he's not suitable for his job
@@jellebigge He isn't, I'm actually doubting these guys are watching the games with full attention. Every game seems boring for them, even if they aren't and they always speak about the teams as one being better on paper and not getting the result needed. You never actually hear them discuss the style or quality of play, which is the only thing I'm expecting from analysts. If England draw I don't need a pundit to tell me that's not a good result for them, I am interested in how they were playing tho, that's what the pundits are for.,
Both sides guilty of trying to walk the ball into the net.