Air Bottle Helicopter
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“hopefully we can put together some of these parts to make some thing that sort of does some thing“ that’s just all of engineering
That's why I like you Tom! You don't shy away from impossible projects!
yes
Hi integza
i watch all youre videos integza! keep up with the good work and succes on youre next turbo jet engine !
Collab when???
Yes
Propellers smash into pieces * calmly continues to explain the physics behind why and carries on *
rapid prototyping is a wonderful and powerful thing to keep a project's momentum
12:12 - The propellor on its own seemed to be doing fine :-) Great work, Tom. Enjoying the journey to air-pressured flight.
It's still spinning to this day, and although Tom doesn't know where it's gone, it still maintains correspondence.
niceeeeee, thanks for the shoutout tom, you'll def get it in the next video
Before the shoutout, I was thinking; this seems like a thing @PeterSripol would do
woah, didn't expect you here
How do you pronounce a word where the repeated vowel is the silent one???
@@Anvilshock like "naissssss"
@@ArchiWorldRuS So why not repeat the c then?
r/whoosh
Everyone is discussing the helicopter and I'm still here amazed that you just up and built a functional Schlieren imaging setup to look at your nozzle flows. Way cool!
I agree. That Schlieren imaging setup was awesome!
Yeah that was cool!
Yeah that was worth it's own video the shock cones were gorgeous
I absolutely love how you aren't afraid to show your failures as well as your success. You tried a path and showed us the results and that's amazingly valuable!
I love how you always use data to back up your decisions. Even many professional engineers skip this too often. When I saw you even built the schlieren imager I was hella impressed!
Next project: thermonuclear fusión engine that works by uranium CO²
😅😊
I’ve been waiting patiently for this video. I was not disappointed! I’m excited for the next video in this series.
getting smarter every day, i see
Hey! Nice to see you here!
dont sleep on your videos, the chicken egg video was lit
shut up daston
Me too!!!
“Not only does everything look better in slow-mo, but it also makes the flight time seem longer” - love it!
The music is a nice touch.
We can also analyze what's going on better to offer up our solutions!
The way the rotor continued with spin without the rest of the helicopter was really really cool.
Failure and destruction. Two events that benefit from slow-mo!
To counter the torque, without needing an additional rotor, you could attempt what the likes of the MD-902 helicopter uses; It still has the rear boom, but along one side it has a rib to reduce the airflow down that side, whilst allowing free-flow along the other side. This creates a difference in pressure, producing a moment; it might be worth a shot, but difficult to see if it'll produce enough of a difference
Honestly I love seeing projects like this. I think so often creators want to have something that is totally functional and works perfectly to show instead of showing the design process. It is really helpful to follow your thinking and the process you go through to solve problems. Thanks for sharing this!
@12:17 Its really amazing how the gyroscopic effect of the sway bar kept the propeller stable and producing lift even when it was completely detached from the helicopter.
It reminded me of the bottle as a booster rocket lifting that rotor as a separate module.
❤️
💋
It's gonna be a great day. Colinfurze & Tom Stanton uploaded video in the same day.
Right?! My thoughts exactly.
the holy trinity will be when wintergatan joins the two on same day
Watched both of them, great projects!
Best of British 🇬🇧🇬🇧😂
And the hacksmith!!
12:26 i like how the rotor flew better freewhelling by itself than when attached to the rest of the helicopter xD
You need a convergent-divergent nozzle to have a fully hyper-sonic flow, otherwise it will be blockage at mach 1
6:32
Toaster: "mate, it's only a matter of time before he tries to convert us into something"
Blender: "I know I'm bloody terrified, I've got a motor & blades!"
Toaster powered hot air balloon! Wait this does not seem all that crazy... I kind of want to see that happen lol.
@@redsquirrelftw Powered by compressed bread.
@@redsquirrelftw Oooh yes, with a LiPo power source. Genius sir!
In Tom’s ideal society we wouldn’t use fossil fuels. The world would run on compressed air, truly the most glorious power source
Modern Steampunk
lol... and u will pump the air tanks manualy?
@@heaawk And how do you compress that air?
@@Rhynome more comprest air
compressed air fixes everything
I love this sort of stuff, splendid work! My immediate idea was the same, to reuse the exhaust from the turbo to counteract rotary action. Humble suggestions; 1. Place the bottle upright to maximise effective rotary thrust. 2. Shorten the turbo exhaust to a minimum and give it a tail. (The tail could be inverted). 3. Chill the bottle whilst pressurising to maximise available air mass over time. (Short launch time required, as the bottle warms from ambient air). 4. Upright launch mechanism would be simpler, in a number of good ways.
Main rotor: "YEAH FREEDOM"
Helicopters aren't easy, that's for sure. I'm currently working on a helicopter project...with counter rotating rotors about 1.3m in diameter and a square fuselage... and I'm giving it a 30% chance of success at this point. Was considering scrapping it but I love how you've presented your progress regardless of results. Thanks for the motivation!
For me helicopters and bikes are physycial bugs in the matrix lol
There's something not disimilar to that description that just flew on Mars !
Yeah, an air-powered 'bicopter' (like the RC Chinook) seems a lot easier to engineer than a dynamically-adjusting tail rotor.
@@nolanwaldner Jet tip helicopter could be a better solution than a tandem set-up like a Chinook. No anti-torque needed. Tandem would need equal lift at both rotors to hover. Counter-rotating might work because there's an increase in efficiency on the lower rotor. Still, jet tip rotors are were I would place my money when it comes to a compressed air system.
You definitely shall already know it by now, but anyway I just would like to remind about possible difficulties with swashplate mechanism. So is your team planning to buy one, order it on some factory or produce yourselves?
Just was waiting to hear about swashplate in the video, but now I assume aircraft controls are not discussed in these videos yet.
That Schlieren set up looks awesome and... Holyyy cow, that’s me! Thanks for the shout out!
Saw you at 6:08!
Big fan :D
you’re famous!!
Ay nice! Love your videos!
But i don't understand the use of the knife ?
12:25, I love how the propeller keeps spinning as if the bottle is still attached lol
A successful engineer shows young people how one learns from and deals with failures in a productive and positive manner. I call this a pretty successful project! Keep up the excellent work!
Few years more and Tom will build an air powered spaceship 🚀
Great job Tom, thank you for your channel
Well considering that he made impossible possible, he might do it
If it went to space it couldn’t couldn’t get air😳
I think a flat earther tried that recently. Last I checked he impacted the ground doing between 200 and 500 mph.
We already have that
Coke and mentos upside down
Like Mark Watney?
4:29 The tyrrany of the air bottle equation! :-P
The way you showed the individual data points of the thrust to energy chart prior to fading to the trendline was brilliant! I will definitely start using that in my research!
I used to have a little helicopter that worked on air pressure. The thing is it had a small plastic capsule that was filled up to pretty high pressure using a hand pump. I feel like all you need is a bottle that can hold more pressure.
I like also seeing projects that don't work as planned, because that's just how reality is sometimes. Only seeing the social-media survivorship bias can make one feel incompetent if any project fails, but seeing other people fail too is a nice balance.
that blade flying on it's own was magnifiscent. high speed 3d arena beyblades?
I died laughing when it popped off
Aerial beyblades! I'd buy that
Awesome experiment. Amazing stability of the rotor at the final section. I'm anxious to see this project succeed!
Idea: build a kite with control surfaces moved by servos. No propellers, fly just on the wind. You attached it with a single string to the ground, and it should fly by itself (moving these control surfaces).
After you can attached small propeller to generate electricity, and either send this power through cable to ground, or to use this power for servos.
Btw, great video!!!
You should try using those little CO2 canisters as a source of air, they have about 800 psi so if it’s regulated it could last a while as well as being light and small
I think they would be quite heavy. And the problem is, you can't refill them.
@@generalfishcake There's CO2 canisters for paintball that are refillable. Some are even made of carbon fiber to reduce weight. The issue is that they're pricey and bulky. They'd require a larger helicopter.
Another issue is that the pressure they can contain is very high, not unlikely to grenade the turbine on the first run. And if you run it at a lower pressure, why use it at all?
@@professortrog7742 I was figuring that when the pressure is regulated it would be able to sustain itself longer, rather than releasing all of the pressure at once or in a very short burst
@@professortrog7742 There's this thing called a pressure regulator
What about dry Ice? - If you can get, 44g gives 22,4 litres of volume, N2 likes to expand as well. - Great Stuff, looking forward for next episodes!
Biggest problem with those will be embrittlement. Not saying it's not solvable, just that it is going to be a factor.
I will be trying this Schlieren setup today.
Perhaps a pressurized rubber balloon inside of the plastic bottle could be used as an air bladdler to give your nozzles a little longer high pressure output time. Rather than the fixed volume of the bottle just resulting in a steady pressure drop. Cool videos btw.
"The clever folks over on Twitter"
Words I never thought I'd hear in my life
Formula 1 cars with tractor wheels is definitely a race I would watch.
Bono, my tires are plowing
Kimi your tires are wearing quickly
Shut up I know what I'm doing
1:40 look how stable the camera is in mid flight.
3 axle gimbal
I feel like we're about 2 years away from a "1:1 scale fully operational sherman tank powered by compressed air" video
Although I don't personally know him, this person sounds so friendly in every video!
Much love!♥️🇳🇵
I love how it's not about the end result, but about the journey.
I'd watch that slow-mo flight with relaxing music for hours.
If you don't fail sometimes, you're not trying trying hard enough!
All of Tom's ideas:
"Yo dawg, I heard you like air..."
1:19 hugely underrated shot
12:15 i love how the rotor is spinning even its not conected to anything anymore hahaha
I can say that this was never a failure. It's just a stepping stone to something great. Hats off to your attempt mate...
This is one of those rare videos where I press the like button before watching the entire video. It's such a great thing to hear someone say something was hard and it didn't work. We're being shown so many success stories on the internet without seeing the failures, that it makes you feel worthless when you try something yourself. Showing a failure and then explaining why it failed teaches the same if not more than a success story. Thanks for sharing this and confirming why I subscribed to your channel.
Tom: "As you can see it doesn't resemble anything in the title of the video"
Air: >:-(
I never realized how easy it was to make a schlieren setup with just a magnifying glass!
If you're here watching Tom and feeling inspired then keep going grinding away! We are all in the same boat here looking for ways to help all our channels. keep up the good work and Never Give Up!
12:15 when your car in BeamNG multiplayer near-misses something and the server desyncs at the same time so the other players see your car split in two but you're driving just fine on your screen
Oddly specific but ok
The Air Hogs Sky Commander was an air powered toy helicopter that claimed to get 50ft high, it just had a large fin on the tail to help keep it from rotating, maybe something like that would work for you, and maybe some of their other design features could help too. I love your work and it has been so much fun seeing you try and make things move and fly with air!
Ideas for improvement:
- use some pliers-like printed arms to lock the whole heli around the bottle. You could avoid uneven upwards momentum.
- insert a tiny valve to stop the rotors running (and vibrating) while pressurizing the air tank. Open the valve remotely with a line.
- change the filling valve so that the levers presses the valve away from the heli.
->
1. Start up rotor
2. Stop pressurizing and drop the filling valve
3. Unlock heli
I had a VertyBird when I was a child and had so much fun with that toy ....Thanks for the entertainment and memories.
LMAO, I'm just dying over here. My man Tom just made a bluetooth propeller at 12:15 hahaha
Legend is back again
I love the blades in slowmo flying toward the camera
The stability of the rotor+stabilizer weights alone really surprised me. It just hovered peacefully for a (milli)moment there.
I would like you power some of your previous projects using liquid nitrogen as a fuel source. Pour it into a mini tank. The air flowing over the tank can boil the liquid or paint it super dark black using special paints.
This is a cool idea. A cheaper and easier alternative could be liquid propane
Yay!! You're back. We all missed you.
I really respect you for telling not only the success stories, but stories of failure (and learning) as well.
Takes guts to put up a "failed" project. This is what real science and engineering is all about. Not everything is an instant success. Thanks for keeping it real, Tom!
Who else honestly wants to see tractor tires on a formula One car because that would be freaking awesome 😂🤣😂
I mean why not lol
I'd rather drag cars! Hang on, that's tractor pulling!
Yup .. that’s what Ferraris are designed for 👍
I get to nerd out twice on theirs vid!!
1. I worked on the Mars Heli solar panel, and I have touched the panel that is currently powering it ON MARS!!
2. Now I work at a national lab and we use schlieren imaging all the time!
You wonderful lucky bastard! 😄
These videos are fun. Thanks for sharing your wins and setbacks with us.
My heart when the propeller decides to take control of its destiny
Good video Integza!
Thank you!
The blades staying where they are when they snapped off had a looney tunes vibe to me.
Look up early helicopter designs. Very early models have two rotors rotating in opposite direction with an angle toward each other, (like a very shallow v) the steeper the angle the more stable is the helicopter. But it will have costs in efficiency. The reason is that if the machine tips to one side the rotor gains efficiency and the opposite loose it, pushing the machine back into a balanced position.
If you were to hold down the entire helicopter under pressurization instead of just the front you could get it up to higher pressure before takeoff and then just integrate the release mechanism with the one located at the tip
Thanks tom, this ones a banger
I just checked your channel 20 minutes ago wondering “I haven’t seen a video from here in awhile”.
Turn the bottle vertical to reduce downwards drag, a cylinder is a surprisingly draggy shape. I reccon you could see much improved performance without loads more development.
The project is Awesome, most especially because of the Air pressure motor
I think the stability can be achieved by adding some equally distributed weight to the bottle
12:20 that's awesome
I am simple man, I see Tom Stanton Video, I click on it
Great job Tom, you have inspired many peoples from this project.
That wasn’t a failure. You managed to make a helicopter that runs on compressed air. Great job.
Never be ashamed of your failures!! Engineering is hard, it's easy to find what you did wrong, but it's really hard to find what you're missing. Keep looking at the math!
He finally took my suggestion, yessssssss!!!!!!! Thank you so much tom!!
I'd place a balloon inside of the plastic bottle to act as an air bellow. When filled with air, the balloon will take the shape of the bottle, but as it releases the air, the balloon's volume will decrease and hopefully maintain a stronger airflow and constant pressure. Play around with different air restrictor diameters to limit airflow while keeping overall weight to a minimum.
As for the long tail boom, consider halving its length and using two smaller diameter tail booms in opposite directions to give a couple force instead of the current single lever force. This could help with reducing weight and improving balance. May not look aesthetically pleasing but should work.
You could also use two helium filled balloons acting as ballast tanks to offset the total weight so that less thrust is required for liftoff. But then it'd be a blimpcopter.
The moment the prop comes off in slow motion makes me feel free. 😁
Tom, I think I know how you could make a helicopter powered by a bottle of air. I won't tell you how and if it works I'll tell you 😉😉
In my head it all sounds great until I put it into practice. 🤣
Completed project, partial projects, failed projects...post them all man. It is very enjoyable to watch the engineering process and be along for the ride. Great video
Hang the bottle vertically so it doesn't block the air flow off the prop and improves the tilting stability then two shorter booms to balance those arms with a fin to use downward air flow off the main rotor to counteract the torque, more torque more airflow etc.
This guy took a water bottle and made it actually useful. I can’t even think of doing that. You always have outstanding ideas EVERY week or day
That slow moe was epic. Like the opening to black hawk down.
Waited 2 months for this... and even though it didn’t work... your vids always teach me something well done Tom!
Watching your videos keeps me reminding how amazing invention 3D printers are to hobbyists, can literally manufacturer on demand..!!
Thrust efficiency from a propeller also depends on the pitch, not just the diameter.
Pitch is usually given in inches, for model plane propellers - it's the distance the prop theoretically travels in one rotation, in a very idealised situation.
As a rule of thumb, a propeller with a ptich of half its diameter (e.g. 8x4 or 6x3) gives the best static thrust. For a prop with more pitch (e.g. 8x6 or 6x5), you get a better top speed, but less static thrust.
It's a lot like choosing a gear on a bike, or in a car, then driving in just that one gear.
Maybe mount the bottle vertically to decrease the cross sectional area blocking the rotor wash. Just an idea...
This legend has pictures of cats in his living room! Great video BTW!
The slowmo it’s beautiful!
I love the sound of that thing spooling up
The sun, a window and a wall is an easy way to see air flows in real time. No camera required
i would recommend a one-way valve, as soon as the air supply is disconnected it closes itself making the turbine spin longer and keeping its pressure for longer. making the overall more efficient
The propellors flying towards the camera on their own was quite humorous.
Something I learned from the video:
Tractor tires are meant to spin at 5000RPM and a Formula 1 doesn't provide enough power.