Matt, the bottom line is that there's a lot of blame to go around. 1) Alec Baldwin hired an amateur armorer (being a cheap skate), who strikes me as being a stereo-typical "Airhead." 2) Some of the crew members were using the Single Action revolver in question, for plinking fun. The crew members should have cleared that weapon before putting it back in the armory. And 3) Alec Baldwin should have checked the revolver to see if it was load with live ammo and not to mention that he violated all four of the "Cardinal Rules of Gun Safety." There should be a Federal mandatory requirement to have any actor who stars in movies where they're handing live firearms to go through a Gun safety training course before filming.
Negligence and stupidly of hollyweenier live in a bubble world and now 1 dead 1 injured. I hope they go after that lady armorer and Alec Dbag. I feel No remorse for their stupidity. God Bless the innocents struck by stupidity. 🙏 RIP ✌️
If you are brought up around guns like I was - military family and my dad was a combat vet and competitive shooter - and I carried on in the Army myself - this sort of "accident" is just so hard to understand. Treat every firearm as loaded until you check the chamber yourself - period! Everything I am reading says this movie was low budget and beset with problems, and live rounds may have made it on set. But that is no excuse for not checking barrel and chambers. Good channel.
Baldwin was a producer and the director and cinematographer got hit. They tolerated insanely unsafe conditions and paid a high price. Professional armorers quoted on Fox stated that the set up was totally wrong - no live round should ever be near a set. The armorer they had was a neophyte. I wonder where everyone involved in the rehearsal was standing in relation to the pistol and the distances. I guess the investigation will show that.
Well said. John Schneider (Bo Duke from the Dukes of Hazzard) explained the standard procedure for making sure Real firearms are handled safely on movie sets in an interview. According to him, even during the filming of a scene, firearms are pointed at dummies, not an actual person. In fact, he recalls that during the filming of the Dukes of Hazzard, James Best (Sheriff Roscoe Coltraine) was so much of a stickler about firearms safety that he wouldn't even aim the firearm in the general direction of another actor/actress. While criminal negligence is most definitely at play in this case, I believe it is very likely that someone involved in this incident intentionally made sure this would happen.
The errors started happening two days before. People were already walking off the set before the filming set for safety issues including a person that was asked to be an armorer. Nothing was changed when a stunt man's firearm went off twice two days prior when it wasn't suppose to go off at all.
It was a revolver, and it apparently had live rounds in it. It was one of three guns on a cart managed by an armorer who is an inexperienced 24-year-old woman. An assistant director grabbed the revolver off the cart and handed it to Baldwin, declaring that it was a "cold gun." Apparently there was no last minute check of the guns on the cart before any of them were to be distributed to actors. Hell, I'm not even an armorer, but I would know enough to do a last minute check before allowing any guns to be handed out.
@@Archimedes616 inexperienced? If only BASIC firearm safety had been applied this would have been easily avoided. You dont even need much experience, just respecting the weapon and applying the rules and this doesnt happen.
The sad thing is he'll probably host SNL again or speak at an award show and he'll receive a standing ovation for his negligence. I don't wish what he went through on anyone and this whole incident is tragic. But the fact of the matter is multiple people failed the victims by not following basic gun safety rules.
I really wish actors who take on roles that involve them using actual firearms would take a basic firearms safety course. People pack their own parachutes for a reason. So why can’t an actor load their own guns with blank cartridges under the supervision of a trained professional armorer. They need to find out how live loaded ammunition ended up on a movie set. They already recovered the bullet that went through that poor girl and lodged in the director’s shoulder.
Ahh, yes , you are using the holding a parrakeet technique to check those firearms. If you have ever had one you will know what I am talking about. I enjoy your show!!
If it was not a swing out cylinder revolver, then it would have been harder to check, but not impossible. I think that probably the dummy rounds looked too much like real live rounds and the dummy who handled the gun could not tell the difference just by looking, even if he did look. Most likely, the armourer assumed that there were no live rounds on the set and assumed that the rounds were dummies in the gun. However, if the assistant director saw any rounds in the gun, he should not have shouted "cold gun". The actor aimed a gun at a place where there were people.
Screw all of this even though it’s true. Baldwin squeezed the trigger playing with the gun Therefore he’s fully responsible for the death of the young lady and the other person. I don’t care how he might be feeling he squeezed the trigger and that always makes a gun go bang. Sorry but just my opinion
Have to agree Where was the person that was in charge of all the firearms props or real are they just get to walk away free. They remind me to touch the firearm should be sent to jail and be prosecuted for a family death
Now guys, let’s intently follow the Baldwin incident because believe it or it will generate a reaction from the anti-gun lobby. I would love to know if he ever does any time in prison. Remember years ago how the liberals wanted to crucify Zimmerman in an act of self defense? We must intently pay attention to Baldwin’s incident. Sincerely
Welp...... Here goes..... I "did" feel bad for Mr. Baldwin, at first. But, the more I thought about it, the less sympathy I could muster. He has been in countless movies where he handled a firearm. At some point, the safety protocols should have become second nature. If they didn't, it was by his own conscious willful decision. He was also they Executive Producer and is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING that happens on-set. Obviously, even the "Hollywood" protocols were not being observed. The fact that there were live rounds on the set is incontrovertible proof of that. Truthfully, as you pointed out, I've found that, almost universally, "Anti-Gunners" go out of their way to "throw away" any knowledge of firearms, and, in fact, MUST "throw away" any knowledge of firearm safety, just so they can maintain their own agenda of "firearms are dangerous." (yet another conscious decision) So, at this point, considering all we now know about the event, I no longer feel any sympathy for Mr. Baldwin. "IF" he is suffering any real emotional anguish over the killing (and not just the fear of potential legal culpability), he went out of his way to earn it. My sympathy is now with the family of the decedent. I hope they all come to realize that it was the willful decisions of Mr. Baldwin, along with others who were present, that really caused the death of the cinematographer. We are all human, and we all make mistakes. Mechanical malfunctions do happen. Knowing that humans, being imperfect and can make mistakes, you and I would BOTH check a firearm when we handed it to the other, or when the other handed it to us... NOT to find fault, but because neither of us want the other one to lay awake at night thinking about some poor S.O.B. who got hurt, or worse, simply because one of us "missed something." Even among the most skilled, and the most vigilant, accidents can, and do, sometimes happen. This event, however, was something RADICALLY different. Along with (what I hope will be) the criminal charges and (hopefully) the ultimate conviction on such charges, and in addition to the civil suit(s) which I hope are to come, I consider Mr. Baldwin's "emotional and psychological anguish" (if there really is any) to be only a small part of the required penance for his sins. God Bless and Keep you and yours Well...... .....AND SAFE!!!
There is no explanation for what had happened other than it was intentional. There would be no reason to have a real gun with real ammo on a movie site. M.O.
Alec being woke and cheap hired a very young woman Armorer With very little experience. They used the single action revolver that morning plinking and probably didn't clear it after. Apparently no one checked ,all 3 are Guilty . the armorer, the assistant director which gave Alec the gun And Alec for not clearing it himself
Safety rule #7: Do not hand a firearm to a angry liberal actor who has a temper and likes pointing things at people. Safety rule #8: Make gun locks mandatory for all Hollywood films. Safety rule #9: Remove the trigger on all guns for all liberal actors.
Corrections….
Cinematographer was killed…..Director was wounded..
I said, when I heard this happened. They (anti gun people) would spin this to make it the fault of the armorer, and basically everyone else but Alec.
Yup. Even though he pulled the trigger of a real gun…..without making sure it was safe to do so.
I am sooo glad to hear another person say the exact same thing as me. It was a real life firearm being used as a prop. HUUUUGE difference.
Yep, everyone touching the firearm should have checked !
100%
Matt, the bottom line is that there's a lot of blame to go around. 1) Alec Baldwin hired an amateur armorer (being a cheap skate), who strikes me as being a stereo-typical "Airhead." 2) Some of the crew members were using the Single Action revolver in question, for plinking fun. The crew members should have cleared that weapon before putting it back in the armory. And 3) Alec Baldwin should have checked the revolver to see if it was load with live ammo and not to mention that he violated all four of the "Cardinal Rules of Gun Safety." There should be a Federal mandatory requirement to have any actor who stars in movies where they're handing live firearms to go through a Gun safety training course before filming.
Negligence and stupidly of hollyweenier live in a bubble world and now 1 dead 1 injured. I hope they go after that lady armorer and Alec Dbag. I feel No remorse for their stupidity. God Bless the innocents struck by stupidity. 🙏 RIP ✌️
Good stuff brother. I always refer to you, when crazy shit happens. Much love from New Hampshire.
Thanks. I’m kind blown away by this, it should have never happened, and was easily preventable
Couldn't agree more! Great discussion and appreciate the lesson in safety checks. 👍
If you are brought up around guns like I was - military family and my dad was a combat vet and competitive shooter - and I carried on in the Army myself - this sort of "accident" is just so hard to understand. Treat every firearm as loaded until you check the chamber yourself - period! Everything I am reading says this movie was low budget and beset with problems, and live rounds may have made it on set. But that is no excuse for not checking barrel and chambers. Good channel.
Just saw a news report on fox saying over 500 live rounds were found on set….🤦♂️
Baldwin was a producer and the director and cinematographer got hit. They tolerated insanely unsafe conditions and paid a high price. Professional armorers quoted on Fox stated that the set up was totally wrong - no live round should ever be near a set. The armorer they had was a neophyte. I wonder where everyone involved in the rehearsal was standing in relation to the pistol and the distances. I guess the investigation will show that.
Well said. John Schneider (Bo Duke from the Dukes of Hazzard) explained the standard procedure for making sure Real firearms are handled safely on movie sets in an interview. According to him, even during the filming of a scene, firearms are pointed at dummies, not an actual person. In fact, he recalls that during the filming of the Dukes of Hazzard, James Best (Sheriff Roscoe Coltraine) was so much of a stickler about firearms safety that he wouldn't even aim the firearm in the general direction of another actor/actress. While criminal negligence is most definitely at play in this case, I believe it is very likely that someone involved in this incident intentionally made sure this would happen.
2 people killed. Involuntary manslaughter
Excellent! Follow the gun safety rules! 1,2,3,4,5.
I appreciate you good sir
Certainly mistakes were made but the ultimate blame must be on the person dropping the hammer and killing a innocent person. Justice must be prevail.
I learn something new with every one of Matt's videos.
Well said Matt.
The errors started happening two days before. People were already walking off the set before the filming set for safety issues including a person that was asked to be an armorer. Nothing was changed when a stunt man's firearm went off twice two days prior when it wasn't suppose to go off at all.
4 years with an open bolt gun never had a run away. But revolvers run away. I hope he is held to the same standards everyone else is.
After the tragedy of Brandon Lee, how are television and movies still having problems with this?
Cutting corners to save money, and negligence
Is it really necessary to have a fully functioning firearm on the movie set?
It most likely was a revolver judging from the setting of the movie. As an anti gun person he should have insisted on no real guns on the set.
I’m pretty sure it’s a revolver too…. Which makes me shake my head even more
It was a revolver, and it apparently had live rounds in it. It was one of three guns on a cart managed by an armorer who is an inexperienced 24-year-old woman. An assistant director grabbed the revolver off the cart and handed it to Baldwin, declaring that it was a "cold gun." Apparently there was no last minute check of the guns on the cart before any of them were to be distributed to actors. Hell, I'm not even an armorer, but I would know enough to do a last minute check before allowing any guns to be handed out.
@@Archimedes616 inexperienced? If only BASIC firearm safety had been applied this would have been easily avoided. You dont even need much experience, just respecting the weapon and applying the rules and this doesnt happen.
The sad thing is he'll probably host SNL again or speak at an award show and he'll receive a standing ovation for his negligence. I don't wish what he went through on anyone and this whole incident is tragic. But the fact of the matter is multiple people failed the victims by not following basic gun safety rules.
I really wish actors who take on roles that involve them using actual firearms would take a basic firearms safety course. People pack their own parachutes for a reason. So why can’t an actor load their own guns with blank cartridges under the supervision of a trained professional armorer. They need to find out how live loaded ammunition ended up on a movie set. They already recovered the bullet that went through that poor girl and lodged in the director’s shoulder.
Ahh, yes , you are using the holding a parrakeet technique to check those firearms. If you have ever had one you will know what I am talking about. I enjoy your show!!
Agree 100%
If it was not a swing out cylinder revolver, then it would have been harder to check, but not impossible. I think that probably the dummy rounds looked too much like real live rounds and the dummy who handled the gun could not tell the difference just by looking, even if he did look. Most likely, the armourer assumed that there were no live rounds on the set and assumed that the rounds were dummies in the gun. However, if the assistant director saw any rounds in the gun, he should not have shouted "cold gun". The actor aimed a gun at a place where there were people.
The person holding the gun is ultimately responsible for safety. Period
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It was a revolver that Baldwin shot the woman with. Someone loaded it with live ammo instead of blanks.
That’s such a strong and valid opinion…
Screw all of this even though it’s true. Baldwin squeezed the trigger playing with the gun Therefore he’s fully responsible for the death of the young lady and the other person. I don’t care how he might be feeling he squeezed the trigger and that always makes a gun go bang. Sorry but just my opinion
Have to agree Where was the person that was in charge of all the firearms props or real are they just get to walk away free. They remind me to touch the firearm should be sent to jail and be prosecuted for a family death
Agree..
Any similarity with the Brandon Lee shooting?
Now guys, let’s intently follow the Baldwin incident because believe it or it will generate a reaction from the anti-gun lobby. I would love to know if he ever does any time in prison. Remember years ago how the liberals wanted to crucify Zimmerman in an act of self defense? We must intently pay attention to Baldwin’s incident. Sincerely
Welp......
Here goes.....
I "did" feel bad for Mr. Baldwin, at first.
But, the more I thought about it, the less sympathy I could muster.
He has been in countless movies where he handled a firearm. At some point, the safety protocols should have become second nature. If they didn't, it was by his own conscious willful decision.
He was also they Executive Producer and is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING that happens on-set. Obviously, even the "Hollywood" protocols were not being observed. The fact that there were live rounds on the set is incontrovertible proof of that.
Truthfully, as you pointed out, I've found that, almost universally, "Anti-Gunners" go out of their way to "throw away" any knowledge of firearms, and, in fact, MUST "throw away" any knowledge of firearm safety, just so they can maintain their own agenda of "firearms are dangerous." (yet another conscious decision)
So, at this point, considering all we now know about the event, I no longer feel any sympathy for Mr. Baldwin. "IF" he is suffering any real emotional anguish over the killing (and not just the fear of potential legal culpability), he went out of his way to earn it. My sympathy is now with the family of the decedent. I hope they all come to realize that it was the willful decisions of Mr. Baldwin, along with others who were present, that really caused the death of the cinematographer.
We are all human, and we all make mistakes. Mechanical malfunctions do happen. Knowing that humans, being imperfect and can make mistakes, you and I would BOTH check a firearm when we handed it to the other, or when the other handed it to us... NOT to find fault, but because neither of us want the other one to lay awake at night thinking about some poor S.O.B. who got hurt, or worse, simply because one of us "missed something." Even among the most skilled, and the most vigilant, accidents can, and do, sometimes happen. This event, however, was something RADICALLY different.
Along with (what I hope will be) the criminal charges and (hopefully) the ultimate conviction on such charges, and in addition to the civil suit(s) which I hope are to come, I consider Mr. Baldwin's "emotional and psychological anguish" (if there really is any) to be only a small part of the required penance for his sins.
God Bless and Keep you and yours Well......
.....AND SAFE!!!
Yep, Hoah.
There is no explanation for what had happened other than it was intentional. There would be no reason to have a real gun with real ammo on a movie site. M.O.
Alec being woke and cheap hired a very young woman Armorer With very little experience. They used the single action revolver that morning plinking and probably didn't clear it after. Apparently no one checked ,all 3 are Guilty . the armorer, the assistant director which gave Alec the gun And Alec for not clearing it himself
Safety rule #7:
Do not hand a firearm to a angry liberal actor who has a temper and likes pointing things at people.
Safety rule #8:
Make gun locks mandatory for all Hollywood films.
Safety rule #9:
Remove the trigger on all guns for all liberal actors.
Do you upload content somewhere else then youtube more regularly?