She is... in a word - cray. That, and I think at that point, her hate for them and her instinct to protect Oscar was too strong for her to just walk away (Adds to the irony of the exorcists supposed to being reliant solely upon reason and logic.)
@@Zalozis It's justified from their point of view because they don't care about anything but this pristine utilitarian ideal (Bentham's Utilitarian philosophy specifically) and we do see "positive" depictions of this crappy belief system of theirs from Star Wars Jedi teachings. If anything, the Abbey are a more real life depiction of what the Jedi would actually be. Faults and all.
Yeah, I just saw this part recently. They could have both walked about and that would have been that. She CLEARLY saw that the abbey was evil. She CLEARLY saw that Velvet's group was anything but evil. But she chose to fight anyways. That scene would have been a lot more impactful if it wasn't so extra.
Bro, she told you why. If they run away, it would forever stain his name and his life could be ruined considering how dogmatic their organization seems to be.
0:41 Perfectly okay with letting the tragedy of Kamoana and her mom transpire, but when it's his sister? Now *we're* the assholes. Boring-ass hypocrite. ._. Welp. No breaks in the story for a little while from this point onward. And shit gets crazy~
*+Otis editz* - *"I can't do that, it would reflect poorly upon him."* She didn't even fight them for protecting Oscar; more his reputation and self-esteem. This would've been the fourth time of Oscar coming across and failing to stop the Lord of Calamity; and he would lost using Armatis this time. After so many failures, the Abbey probably would have discharged him, or worst. Still better than being frucking dead, Teresa...
Considering what both her (and Oscar) has seen of the Abbey up to this point, shouldn't they have gotten a (an extremely big) hint that the Abbey can care less of whether they succeed or not, they don't truthfully care for their own people (Teresa should've gotten the point when they've used an experimented arte on Oscar, something that's not finished)? Either way, I can't feel much sympathy for those 2. They brought it upon themselves, while Velvet was actually willing to let them go (which is a surprise, considering how much of a pain, and annoying, that both characters were to Velvet and the group).
Isn't that that exact same attitude Velvet as? Arthur is only a asshole because he kill her brother, if he killed anybody else she wouldn't have given a shit.Hell she might even be a Exorcist by now if things had gone slightly differently. Velvet knows better then anybody else just how easy she could have ended up in Teresa's shoes and that's probably why she was willing to let them go in the first place.
You also forgotten that the other reason that Velvet considers him as one is because of what happened to her friend Niko and the other villagers where she was staying/living (and doesn't help that the person himself literally cut off her left arm, .which results in her having a demonic left arm and imprisonment for 3 years). So while killing her brother was the main motivation of her wanting her revenge, it wasn't the only reason Velvet considered Arthur a complete a****** (and that illusion trick of her village doesn't help much).
This is the part of the game that nearly broke me. Because of Teresa's protective instincts and strong love for Oscar which ultimately led to both their demise, and how Velvet was pretty close to breaking because that was the same event that triggered her trauma at the hands of Artorius.
That’s honestly what I thought too. I feel like Artorius (or Melchior at least) and Innominant set them up to die by Velvet’s hand to set up her trauma button and then came the whole attack on Titania. It all feels too planned out.
_CaptainRevive Something tells me Melchior gave up on Bienfu when he said " Velvey would make good wife material". Melchior:..................................
They told him: Gather important information. Bienfu gave the information that he thought was important. As it turns out, what's important to bienfu is useless trivia to the abbey.
Teresa deserved better. The moment she became a therion I was glad, because that shit of taking the therions alive to Titania and that, but, not, they had to kill her. And just when she was starting to open herself to the group. Damn. And this is just the first step to Velvet's despair show. Onwards, things will turn much more ugly...
Didn't Teresa have no problem using the Malays like disposable tools like the other exorcists, to the point of ordering Laphicet to blow himself up in an attempt to kill Velvet, and then later straight up ordered him to kill her and then himself after trapping their entire party? To me, Teresa isn't all that sympathetic, especially since she essentially dooms herself and Oscar with her impulsive betrayal in this part.
Eh, no.. they aren't related. Previous vid Teresa clearly stated she was the maid at Oscar's home and he treated her "like a sister" while the rest were, supposedly, assholes cause "lowborn maid trash, lol". So simply put: not bro + sis...can't wincest...get awkward stares due to calling each other bro/sis.
After reading the english text... I must admit I got a bit wet eyes. :,( I was already sad when I saw the cutscene in my run... but when I read Teresa's last words... I became even more depressed. One of the most tragic moments I've seen in videogames. Not only for the siblings but also for Velvet, Laphi and El of course. Another evidence why Berseria is so dark.
@@davidtimmer596 Yeah, I think Teresa should get most of the blame here. Nobody expected Oscar to drop dead mid-fight, but in all honesty, Velvet probably ended-up saving them the trouble of fighting a dragon.
Man, this ended up being another Alice and Decus situation. It's a shame these two don't end up joining the party. Would've been fun to play as Oscar if anything
Yeah. After this fight, I put the game down, because of how tragic the the atmosphere was and the symbolism. This game made me come very close to crying.
13:55. The mind does what it can in order to offer some solace, some illusion of comfort. Bojack Horseman was very much the same when he lost everything, making the solitude and silence of death itself seem so appealing.
I don't feel sorry for them at all. Velvet gave her a warning to leave with Oscar as soon as she got him and she didn't listen. She shouldnt have broke down like that because she was acting as self defense or else it would have been her and laphicet dead instead
...Um... you're supposed to feel sorry for Velvet, not those two. Because Velvet realized she became no better than Artorius in this moment. ...I mean, you don't get the point of the scene.
Oscar: I will not fall that easily! Boy, you are using the shittiest armitazation from Zestiria. You stood no chance. The Abbey givin' out bootleg armatus now? Oh my god it makes sense...Melchior is a fucking bootlegger. He probably hides moonshine under his hat. He even looks like an old prospector! Laphicet: I'll protect you Velvet! Velvet: Literally everyone who has ever said that in this series has either failed or died horribly. Often both. Don't curse yourself kid. Stormquell is nice and all, but can it take out Yhorm the Giant?
Eleanor does her mystic Arte: huh, that's cool Eizen dies his mystic Arte right after: holy crap! Laphicet does his mystic Arte right after: Onega calm the fuck down! it's just a poor woman fighting for her brother!!
Teresa and Oscar will never not give me the creeps also can you please show your arte trees next update? I need help coming up with combos for Eizen (in particular)
that move where you combine their mystic arts is great but how do you keep them from wasting what they need for it I tried but they keep using the arts when they want and i never have enough on all of them to do that combined skill
Great... This is Decus&Alice shit all over again. They even die in the same possition! (It's not a romantic relationship but love it's still love at the end of the day.) The worst part is that in both cases the protagonists move on over the major antagonist deaths way too fast. I don't mind this when the antagonist have no character development and are just dicks for the sake of it. However this wasn't the case! It wasn't with Alice&Decus and it wasn't here! Mourn their deaths a little or give them some respect as opponents at least!
I mean, everybody except Velvet and Laphicet kind of aren't affected. Eleanor's kind of... Bottling it all up as her sidequest later on shows, Velvet has a fucking breakdown and Phi's a TAD too concerned with Velvet not, y'know, snapping.
Can I just say how... Uncomfortable Teresa and Oscar's relationship is? Like, bruh, it's nice to know you care about your brother, but like... Dial it down a peg or three. Please.
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*royal lookin dude with his hands on sword hilt in field of flowers*
*organ starts playing*
okay, definitely a boss fight.
So he's called failed even as the battle starts...
Even the damn game is against Oscar. That's just cold.
we play the "villains" afterall
ANYTHING FOR OSCAR!!!.....dude just walk away you'll both be fine........but nooooo gotta fight to the death cant be reasonable!
*"Can't be reasonable."*
That's the irony of the Abbey: nothing they do makes logical senses or is morally justifiable.
She is... in a word - cray.
That, and I think at that point, her hate for them and her instinct to protect Oscar was too strong for her to just walk away (Adds to the irony of the exorcists supposed to being reliant solely upon reason and logic.)
@@Zalozis It's justified from their point of view because they don't care about anything but this pristine utilitarian ideal (Bentham's Utilitarian philosophy specifically) and we do see "positive" depictions of this crappy belief system of theirs from Star Wars Jedi teachings. If anything, the Abbey are a more real life depiction of what the Jedi would actually be. Faults and all.
Yeah, I just saw this part recently.
They could have both walked about and that would have been that. She CLEARLY saw that the abbey was evil. She CLEARLY saw that Velvet's group was anything but evil.
But she chose to fight anyways.
That scene would have been a lot more impactful if it wasn't so extra.
Bro, she told you why. If they run away, it would forever stain his name and his life could be ruined considering how dogmatic their organization seems to be.
0:41
Perfectly okay with letting the tragedy of Kamoana and her mom transpire, but when it's his sister? Now *we're* the assholes. Boring-ass hypocrite. ._.
Welp. No breaks in the story for a little while from this point onward. And shit gets crazy~
Tigura21 it was teresa fault she could have left and not fought them and she killed them out of self defence lol dumass lil girl 😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
*+Otis editz* - *"I can't do that, it would reflect poorly upon him."*
She didn't even fight them for protecting Oscar; more his reputation and self-esteem. This would've been the fourth time of Oscar coming across and failing to stop the Lord of Calamity; and he would lost using Armatis this time. After so many failures, the Abbey probably would have discharged him, or worst.
Still better than being frucking dead, Teresa...
Considering what both her (and Oscar) has seen of the Abbey up to this point, shouldn't they have gotten a (an extremely big) hint that the Abbey can care less of whether they succeed or not, they don't truthfully care for their own people (Teresa should've gotten the point when they've used an experimented arte on Oscar, something that's not finished)? Either way, I can't feel much sympathy for those 2. They brought it upon themselves, while Velvet was actually willing to let them go (which is a surprise, considering how much of a pain, and annoying, that both characters were to Velvet and the group).
Isn't that that exact same attitude Velvet as? Arthur is only a asshole because he kill her brother, if he killed anybody else she wouldn't have given a shit.Hell she might even be a Exorcist by now if things had gone slightly differently.
Velvet knows better then anybody else just how easy she could have ended up in Teresa's shoes and that's probably why she was willing to let them go in the first place.
You also forgotten that the other reason that Velvet considers him as one is because of what happened to her friend Niko and the other villagers where she was staying/living (and doesn't help that the person himself literally cut off her left arm, .which results in her having a demonic left arm and imprisonment for 3 years). So while killing her brother was the main motivation of her wanting her revenge, it wasn't the only reason Velvet considered Arthur a complete a****** (and that illusion trick of her village doesn't help much).
This is the part of the game that nearly broke me. Because of Teresa's protective instincts and strong love for Oscar which ultimately led to both their demise, and how Velvet was pretty close to breaking because that was the same event that triggered her trauma at the hands of Artorius.
They were both just awful and dumb, though, and deserved what they got.
For some reason, I think that Teresa and Oscar were set up to trigger Velvet's despair by the Abbey.
That’s honestly what I thought too. I feel like Artorius (or Melchior at least) and Innominant set them up to die by Velvet’s hand to set up her trauma button and then came the whole attack on Titania. It all feels too planned out.
Teresa, you chose poorly. Stubbornness is an insidious killer.
You can say that to velvet .
Agreed.
Kenny Nguyen its her own fault such a shame smh she could have lived 😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
She would do anything for Oscar
Ahhh, the first armatization, such a failure for all the right reasons.
"That son of a dog."
Wow Eizen....wow.
"Hey remember that OP water armatization? Yeah here's 4 of them at once as a" normal enemy""
Kill me
ya, very annoying
i love how bienfu's intel was terribly unrelated to what the abbey needed
_CaptainRevive Something tells me Melchior gave up on Bienfu when he said " Velvey would make good wife material".
Melchior:..................................
I suppose it was the best way he could resist it.
They told him: Gather important information.
Bienfu gave the information that he thought was important.
As it turns out, what's important to bienfu is useless trivia to the abbey.
*Tries not to cry*
*Dies crying*
*Cries in the afterlife*
The cycle of feels... it's too strong.
Poor Teresa and Oscar.
I'm starting to imagine Cristina Vee breaking character and singing "Surfin' USA" when Velvet surfs on that Magic Carpet thing.
its hardly a carpet
hover board is a more appropiate term :p
I didn't know Edgy folks like Back To The Future. :P
Let her like something
Making the tunnels will be stupid they said, nothing bad will happen They said ...
girls, am I right 😒
Teresa deserved better. The moment she became a therion I was glad, because that shit of taking the therions alive to Titania and that, but, not, they had to kill her. And just when she was starting to open herself to the group. Damn.
And this is just the first step to Velvet's despair show. Onwards, things will turn much more ugly...
Didn't Teresa have no problem using the Malays like disposable tools like the other exorcists, to the point of ordering Laphicet to blow himself up in an attempt to kill Velvet, and then later straight up ordered him to kill her and then himself after trapping their entire party?
To me, Teresa isn't all that sympathetic, especially since she essentially dooms herself and Oscar with her impulsive betrayal in this part.
@@knju1monsterhunt656Not to mention Velvet killed Oscar in self-defense, so the idea that she's now no different from Artorious falls kind of flat.
Ay, time to fuck up the duo that take brother and sister relationship a "liiiiiiiiiiiitle" to far.
Also, Oscar is a Murakumo Unit?
They took "incest is wincest" a little too seriously xD
Steel4 I don't know man, Cercei and Jaime are more fucked up for me. At least we didn't see Oscar and Teresa having sex + Oscar raping Teresa...
Eh, no.. they aren't related. Previous vid Teresa clearly stated she was the maid at Oscar's home and he treated her "like a sister" while the rest were, supposedly, assholes cause "lowborn maid trash, lol".
So simply put: not bro + sis...can't wincest...get awkward stares due to calling each other bro/sis.
ChazDragoon Oh, I thought they are half siblings and not siblings strictly by bond. :P
Teresa was a bastard child so half sister at least. That's why her nobleborn family despised her.
After reading the english text... I must admit I got a bit wet eyes. :,(
I was already sad when I saw the cutscene in my run... but when I read Teresa's last words... I became even more depressed.
One of the most tragic moments I've seen in videogames. Not only for the siblings but also for Velvet, Laphi and El of course.
Another evidence why Berseria is so dark.
All I can say to all this:Jesus.
Yeah, and the saddest part is, she could've taken him and the fight could've been avoided
@@davidtimmer596 Yeah, I think Teresa should get most of the blame here. Nobody expected Oscar to drop dead mid-fight, but in all honesty, Velvet probably ended-up saving them the trouble of fighting a dragon.
Failed Oscar. How much he has fallen.
Man, this ended up being another Alice and Decus situation. It's a shame these two don't end up joining the party. Would've been fun to play as Oscar if anything
I find them written better than Alice and Decus, even if Teresa last decision is questionnable to me
Deus Vitae Well, it is the sequel to Symphonia, like it or not. It has it's flaws, and I do no like the story very much, but it is still there ^^
@@guguig9746 Teresa's idiotic decision made sense. People really are that stupid in real life.
You have a fair point, actually.
Man this part hit me really hard in the feels. This whole game has, definitely top 2 Tales games I've played.
Yeah. After this fight, I put the game down, because of how tragic the the atmosphere was and the symbolism. This game made me come very close to crying.
I totally get those two,but all I can say to this is.....GET REKT.
13:37 Great... Now Velvet's gonna blame herself for attacking out of self defence
She feels guilty for killing.
45:46
Snake: Hi
Its not Velvet's fault
Teresa could have run away in an act.
But she is too prideful
Now she got Oscar killed with her :v
Poor Velvet
13:55.
The mind does what it can in order to offer some solace, some illusion of comfort.
Bojack Horseman was very much the same when he lost everything, making the solitude and silence of death itself seem so appealing.
33:02
,, Velvet is actually pretty good wife material"
oooohh. How I wished they would have put Velvet in this skit.
But i agree with Bienfu. :)
Mandalor Ordo Sadly the Abbey didn't NEED to know that.
*Oscar... and Teresa...*
_How dare you die so easily?! How am I supposed to die NOW?!?_
How dark can this series get?!!!!😲
I don't feel sorry for them at all. Velvet gave her a warning to leave with Oscar as soon as she got him and she didn't listen. She shouldnt have broke down like that because she was acting as self defense or else it would have been her and laphicet dead instead
...Um... you're supposed to feel sorry for Velvet, not those two.
Because Velvet realized she became no better than Artorius in this moment.
...I mean, you don't get the point of the scene.
Oscar: I will not fall that easily!
Boy, you are using the shittiest armitazation from Zestiria. You stood no chance.
The Abbey givin' out bootleg armatus now? Oh my god it makes sense...Melchior is a fucking bootlegger. He probably hides moonshine under his hat. He even looks like an old prospector!
Laphicet: I'll protect you Velvet!
Velvet: Literally everyone who has ever said that in this series has either failed or died horribly. Often both. Don't curse yourself kid.
Stormquell is nice and all, but can it take out Yhorm the Giant?
For me the shittiest was the Earth Armatus, the laser attack was my one of favourite, also healing arte was strong.
Damn, Teresa got hit by 3 mystic artes in a row only couple minutes in battle.
well...... the shit hit the fan pretty fast didn't it. Also lol Teresa, didn't even get to use your MA.
Haha she was about to, but AI too good saved my ass in the end :p
Dammit woman you had one job! One job!
Ah well Velvet don't worry you're totally different. That was self defense rather then human sacrifice.
Nevermind Oscar get by 4 MA in a row! Omega bringing the pain!
33:00 lol didn't expect that xD
How... I died with Teresa so many times OTL.... great play through :)))
This what happens when you blindly follow beliefs without reason. Wallow in despair, you two. You chose the wrong side.
nice clean run of those two, i got MA spammed when i fought them on hard :P
I was kinda surprised it went so smoothly honestly. Was expecting Teresa to nuke me to oblivion with the Explode spam lol
That's pretty much what happened to me. Was out of life bottles when I fought Oscar.
Eleanor does her mystic Arte: huh, that's cool
Eizen dies his mystic Arte right after: holy crap!
Laphicet does his mystic Arte right after: Onega calm the fuck down! it's just a poor woman fighting for her brother!!
You guys I'm actually crying the 5th time in this game
I get such a Lannister vibe from these two
However, unlike the Lannisters, Oscar and Teresa genuinely care about each other.
not so much Lannister but I think they have huuuuuuuge Farnese/Serpico vibes (Berserk characters)
Wow... This game really know how to work the feels, eh...?
7:43 "Darkness cosume you....Shatter!"
29:25 you guys better not make a High School Musical joke or so help me...
Teresa and Oscar will never not give me the creeps
also can you please show your arte trees next update? I need help coming up with combos for Eizen (in particular)
These are pre-recorded a while in advance. This game was finished on stream in like 2 weeks.
I ninja it’s supposed to be a serious moment but Velvet just surfing through the jail past people randomly makes me laugh
Am I the only one who constantly sees Sorey in Oscar? Gets so weird sometimes :O
I think it's intentional. Oscar feels like what Sorey could have been with a more strict upbringing and more stupid family members. lol
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And good ol mikleo being there for sorey helped bunches
Hey omega, Don't you think this game should have been called "tales of akame ga kill" ?
You just said that...
Well no, Berseria's actually a good story and Velvet's actually a really well-developed character.... so.... *drops mic*
They didn't even give them a burial? Wow.
"Failed Oscar"
What a name...
Pior é o nome dele em PT-BR, colocaram o nome de Oscar Fracassado kkkkk
Oscar boss theme is so good.
that move where you combine their mystic arts is great but how do you keep them from wasting what they need for it I tried but they keep using the arts when they want and i never have enough on all of them to do that combined skill
The turning point... Gawd it's about to get good...
33:00 Right, Bienfu... Riiiight.
So you get a treasure called Eau de Seduction from the Centurion Isles? That's… really not very subtle.
How can Velvet mystic arte trigger other characters mystic arte???? Thats amazing 😢
Tales of Project ARMS.
Teresa and Oscar reminded me of a twisted Crescendo and Serenade from Eternal Sonata
Damn dude. Bootleg Disney Prince Perci is too good to the party.
The best thing... Oscar's Voice
Magiliou is a lot more serious this episode...
Kinda unerving
Firecraft 703 Thats the game telling you shit just got real.
is it me or oscar sounds like fearless leader of turtle.
RUclips always sending the notifications... Almost TWO DAMN hours later! Anyway, good video Omega 😉
i have a question, what are your settings to make your friend characters use an arte right after you do? cuz mine never do
Does anyone know what Omega has for the strategy settings of the characters?
Nooooooo, Teresa-samaaaaaaaaa
So this is the 1st oscar failure armatus than zesteria
how did u make all the characters follow up with their mystic artes after you used yours?
Wtf 22:16 Ratatosk?
Did anyone else get murdered by Teresa in the most disrespectful way?
Hmmmm yes! Love the Game of Thrones vibe!!
Isnt the move "Virulent Shards" also in tales of zestiria for Sorey's wind armatization?
Ghost Phoenix yes it is with earth and water too.
How do you do you chain your mystic artes like that?
hold the mystic arts button and press a direction on the d-pad.
woah, how did you do 3 mystic artes back to back
wait, you can string mystic artes together?
Aromatization is plain compared to Zestria. Because it's so incomplete. Attention to detail.
Great... This is Decus&Alice shit all over again. They even die in the same possition! (It's not a romantic relationship but love it's still love at the end of the day.)
The worst part is that in both cases the protagonists move on over the major antagonist deaths way too fast. I don't mind this when the antagonist have no character development and are just dicks for the sake of it. However this wasn't the case! It wasn't with Alice&Decus and it wasn't here! Mourn their deaths a little or give them some respect as opponents at least!
I mean, everybody except Velvet and Laphicet kind of aren't affected. Eleanor's kind of... Bottling it all up as her sidequest later on shows, Velvet has a fucking breakdown and Phi's a TAD too concerned with Velvet not, y'know, snapping.
Velvet had a break down and blames herself over and over for it.
How werr you able to do 3 mystic artes one after another?
...
Fuck.
God dammit beinfu ;x
Too many feels ; __ ;
Can I just say how... Uncomfortable Teresa and Oscar's relationship is? Like, bruh, it's nice to know you care about your brother, but like... Dial it down a peg or three. Please.