This is the Coyotes situation all over again. The people in Tampa, Hillsborough, St Pete, and Pinellas don't want to spend any tax money on a new ballpark. What do you think, it's a coincidence that the two new elected commissioners are both anti-deal? If you're not going to privately finance the whole stadium just move the f'ing team already and get this over with.
@@stevem-h5e Zackly...St Pete needs light industry back with career oriented jobs providing better pay and benefits than Tip Jars. JOBS...that will make our housing affordable AGAIN!!!
Fatal error was the city choosing to go cheap on insurance. Can’t fix it cause then they won’t have enough to put up for the new ballpark they agreed to get.
There are plenty of places they *could* play, but only one of them has a roof. It's not just a heat issue. More than anything, it's a rain issue. That's why they need a roof.
Just think if no stadium is built and Rays leave the area then all that money that would have been spent at the stadium and on the team can now be spent locally.
When will people realize that most sports stadiums are a drain economically and the money is much better spent on hospitals , schools , roads etc . Once again rich owners try and scare the public by threatening to move their team AND the gullible public fall for it again and again .
@@bargdaffy1535 well they had insurance that would have covered the whole price of damage, but the city changed the insurance plan back in march to only cover 25 mil, To save 275,000 annually. Bad move on their part but if they never did that we wouldn’t be in this situation. Again, the stadiums placement is due to uncontrolled circumstances. Maybe if you’d have a better attitude they’d be on this side of the bay. Doesn’t make sense hating unless you have some sort of resentment or are an out of towner budding their dumbass opinion on again uncontrollable circumstances and shit that shouldn’t matter to them. Roof held thru every other hurricane for 30 years. Stop being ignorant.
10,000 tickets sold. There's probably only about 3000 actually there most of the time. St Petersburg could open a zoo there or something like that and get just as many paying visitors per day. And own the whole thing. And it wouldn't cost $1 billion either.
People don’t realize how much money the stadium brings into the local economy. Many major events other than Rays games are held there. The city is really messing this one up imo. The tax dollars would come back 10x over time and locals would still have access to major productions coming to town.
That seems to be something that nobody in power is thinking about. I wonder what they would do if their house had no roof. I guess they would do nothing.😊
@@JeffHulkHemp - Businesses around the Staydiumb don't depend on it. They depend mostly on locals year 'round, not just 80 poorly attended home games. Attendees mostly just come and go without going to local businesses. Too busy parking and getting out after. The Staydiumb provides some seasobal temp jobs and that's about it.
With the Ray's overall attendance being poor this could be an excuse to relocate the team ...maybe stay in the state or just bail and find a new stadium in another state.
BEACHES OVER BASEBALL! Fergs can move to the Airport Area or Ybor which is where the Rays should stay. Tampa. Fire the cheap Rays owner, make sure MLB pays for the new stadium, NOT TaxPayers and redevelop st pete with more affordable housing. St. Pete needs that money for Beaches not Baseball. Tampa should focus on build the NEW JOINT Bucs & Rays Hybrid Stadium by the Airport people have been talking about. It makes more sense economicly. Both teams need new stadiums by 2030. Tampa should be all in on this. Maybe move the Yanks to St.Pete with a swap deal. Make Pinellias the home of Major League Spirng Training and give Tampa the Major league team
So much wrong with what you posted. First, it's always the responsibility of the region to fork up most of the money for a stadium, not the team. The team may contribute, bit most of it should come from the city. Second, Ybor isn't a possibility. No money is coming from that county. Third, the team can't fire the owner. That's THE OWNER. The owner can fire everybody else but not the other way around. Fourth, MLB isn't going to front any money for the Rays' new stadium. Why should the other 29 owners pay for a new stadium for Tampa Bay that makes no sense. The fact that the Yankees are allowing the Rays to play in their facility next year is already an unusual concession. Fifth, the Rays need a new stadium by the end of 2027 (sooner now), not 2030. Sixth, Tampa has offered the least amount of money for a new stadium than any other county. It was never released how much but the general consensus is that it was pathetically low.
@@herotomillions4095The notion that it’s the responsibility of the local government rather than the team is something relatively recent. That became a “thing” in the 60s with the development of multi-purpose stadia and cities trying to attract expansion teams or relocation, as St. Pete did in the 90s by building the Trop in hopes of attracting a team. Ralph Wilson Stadium in Buffalo was privately funded in the early 1970s, but now the Bills went to local and state governments to pick up half or more of the cost of their new stadium. Gillette Stadium itself was privately funded, although the state of Massachusetts picked up infrastructure costs. It’s more of a case now where teams ask cities or counties to build facilities, and if they don’t “play ball,” owners threaten to move their teams to areas that will, as the Bills did when they floated moving to Austin, TX.
@@JBM425 I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that's the way it is. That's how capitalism works. If you owned a major sports team and if you needed a new stadium, but you're in a city that wouldn't pay for one, meanwhile another city would... whether it's right or not, you have to make the best business decisions and give relocation some serious consideration
They can't. The interior isn't waterproof and would need repairs/upgrades to be usable anyway. The roof is only half the total cost that was quoted for repairs.
Let me ask this, why is it such an impossible task to have the dome repaired and ready for next opening day? The cost was about 56 million? This sounds like Rays ownership being absolute cheapskates and Tampa Bay city management being totally apathetic as well
The Rays don't own the ballpark, Pinellas county does. If you are renting a house, are you going to pay for repairs instead of the landlord paying? P.S.: last spring Pinellas county lowered the insurance from $100 million to $25 million. Worked out really well for them huh?
This is the Coyotes situation all over again. The people in Tampa, Hillsborough, St Pete, and Pinellas don't want to spend any tax money on a new ballpark. What do you think, it's a coincidence that the two new elected commissioners are both anti-deal?
If you're not going to privately finance the whole stadium just move the f'ing team already and get this over with.
Guess what? All the millionaire players and billionaire owners spend their money elsewhere. But the hot dog vendors have a part-time job.
@@stevem-h5e Zackly...St Pete needs light industry back with career oriented jobs providing better pay and benefits than Tip Jars. JOBS...that will make our housing affordable AGAIN!!!
Move the team to Orlando cause Tampa doesn’t seem interested in solving the problems…..
Fatal error was the city choosing to go cheap on insurance. Can’t fix it cause then they won’t have enough to put up for the new ballpark they agreed to get.
People can't even afford home and auto insurance. And with back to back hurricanes, the cost of everything is going up.
And this affects your insurance how?
No public funding for this BS!
It is insane how many baseball stadiums there are in this area and people act like there's no place for the Rays to play.
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There are plenty of places they *could* play, but only one of them has a roof. It's not just a heat issue. More than anything, it's a rain issue. That's why they need a roof.
I bet Sternberg wishes he had done the Ybor City deal now. You can bet he’s always going to take the cheapest option.
STERNBERG
People don't understand the residual income that comes with having a professional sports team in town. They'll find out fast once they leave.
Just think if no stadium is built and Rays leave the area then all that money that would have been spent at the stadium and on the team can now be spent locally.
When will people realize that most sports stadiums are a drain economically and the money is much better spent on hospitals , schools , roads etc . Once again rich owners try and scare the public by threatening to move their team AND the gullible public fall for it again and again .
@@Gordie-v7nname me a successful example of that happening
@@Gordie-v7ndon’t care I want to watch baseball idgaf
The money for that stadium comes mostly from a fund that is allocated for exactly that. Legally, they can't spend it on those things you want.
Really? 10,000 fans a game and their business success relies on that? That is just pitiful.
Don’t need judgement on shit they couldn’t control.
@@HunterMaggiacomo Why don't they have a buisness model based on some thing other than a Net Loss Baseball Team in a Hurricane Zone.
@@bargdaffy1535 well they had insurance that would have covered the whole price of damage, but the city changed the insurance plan back in march to only cover 25 mil, To save 275,000 annually. Bad move on their part but if they never did that we wouldn’t be in this situation. Again, the stadiums placement is due to uncontrolled circumstances. Maybe if you’d have a better attitude they’d be on this side of the bay. Doesn’t make sense hating unless you have some sort of resentment or are an out of towner budding their dumbass opinion on again uncontrollable circumstances and shit that shouldn’t matter to them. Roof held thru every other hurricane for 30 years. Stop being ignorant.
@@HunterMaggiacomoThe city officials are absolutely incompetent
10,000 tickets sold. There's probably only about 3000 actually there most of the time. St Petersburg could open a zoo there or something like that and get just as many paying visitors per day. And own the whole thing. And it wouldn't cost $1 billion either.
The money stadiums bring to local small business is HIGH OVERSTATED.... all studies have shown that, terrible reporting.
You follow up a lie with “All studies have shown that” 😂😂😂
Send them down the road.
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GO RAIZE...
GO RAYS? NO RAISE! GO RAIZE!!! 😜
People don’t realize how much money the stadium brings into the local economy. Many major events other than Rays games are held there. The city is really messing this one up imo. The tax dollars would come back 10x over time and locals would still have access to major productions coming to town.
They need to repair the stadium as soon as possible because damage to the inside of the dome.
That seems to be something that nobody in power is thinking about. I wonder what they would do if their house had no roof. I guess they would do nothing.😊
@@JeffHulkHemp Steinbrenner Stadium has no roof...no big deal. As Casey Steingle said, "Baseball games end the same...Win, Lose or Rain."
@@DavidStites-n2p I agree but the businesses around the ballpark will hurt.
@@JeffHulkHemp - Businesses around the Staydiumb don't depend on it. They depend mostly on locals year 'round, not just 80 poorly attended home games. Attendees mostly just come and go without going to local businesses. Too busy parking and getting out after.
The Staydiumb provides some seasobal temp jobs and that's about it.
Although skeptical given how butt hurt and impatient everyone is, I just hope everything comes together and people do the right thing
Dont put this on the Rays. This is on St Pete commissioners
Why not clean the debris from the interior and play in Tropicana without the roof? They are playing outside in Steinbrenner Field anyway.
With the Ray's overall attendance being poor this could be an excuse to relocate the team ...maybe stay in the state or just bail and find a new stadium in another state.
Lowest average attendance in the league. Best and cheapest seats are at home on TV. No lines & free parking.
GO RAIZE...
Wendy Ryan is the Champion of the Lizard Lady Look.....🤣🤣
The Rays can play in the new USF stadium…
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Can't do this either.
@ actally plus wont to 2 or 3 years open so won’t benefit also won’t covertable to that
BEACHES OVER BASEBALL!
Fergs can move to the Airport Area or Ybor which is where the Rays should stay. Tampa. Fire the cheap Rays owner, make sure MLB pays for the new stadium, NOT TaxPayers and redevelop st pete with more affordable housing. St. Pete needs that money for Beaches not Baseball. Tampa should focus on build the NEW JOINT Bucs & Rays Hybrid Stadium by the Airport people have been talking about. It makes more sense economicly. Both teams need new stadiums by 2030. Tampa should be all in on this. Maybe move the Yanks to St.Pete with a swap deal. Make Pinellias the home of Major League Spirng Training and give Tampa the Major league team
So much wrong with what you posted.
First, it's always the responsibility of the region to fork up most of the money for a stadium, not the team. The team may contribute, bit most of it should come from the city.
Second, Ybor isn't a possibility. No money is coming from that county.
Third, the team can't fire the owner. That's THE OWNER. The owner can fire everybody else but not the other way around.
Fourth, MLB isn't going to front any money for the Rays' new stadium. Why should the other 29 owners pay for a new stadium for Tampa Bay that makes no sense. The fact that the Yankees are allowing the Rays to play in their facility next year is already an unusual concession.
Fifth, the Rays need a new stadium by the end of 2027 (sooner now), not 2030.
Sixth, Tampa has offered the least amount of money for a new stadium than any other county. It was never released how much but the general consensus is that it was pathetically low.
@@herotomillions4095The notion that it’s the responsibility of the local government rather than the team is something relatively recent. That became a “thing” in the 60s with the development of multi-purpose stadia and cities trying to attract expansion teams or relocation, as St. Pete did in the 90s by building the Trop in hopes of attracting a team. Ralph Wilson Stadium in Buffalo was privately funded in the early 1970s, but now the Bills went to local and state governments to pick up half or more of the cost of their new stadium. Gillette Stadium itself was privately funded, although the state of Massachusetts picked up infrastructure costs. It’s more of a case now where teams ask cities or counties to build facilities, and if they don’t “play ball,” owners threaten to move their teams to areas that will, as the Bills did when they floated moving to Austin, TX.
@@JBM425 I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that's the way it is. That's how capitalism works. If you owned a major sports team and if you needed a new stadium, but you're in a city that wouldn't pay for one, meanwhile another city would... whether it's right or not, you have to make the best business decisions and give relocation some serious consideration
There was fergs here it closed also the rays don’t want be here either🤦🏾♂️
@@JBM425😮
The Working Class in the Tampa Bay region can no longer afford to go to games played by an inferior product inside an inferior stadium.
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The tickets are usually like $20 lol
@@robindodd1969 Not for a decent seat....
They could still play there without the roof.
They can't. The interior isn't waterproof and would need repairs/upgrades to be usable anyway. The roof is only half the total cost that was quoted for repairs.
@@MoTheAviator Well it's going to rain in there anyways since there is no roof regardless of whether there is a game there or not.
No, they can't.
@@JP-xr3mu when it rains there is no game played. Why would it matter?
Most stadiums have no roof. Games end the same way, Win, Lose or Rain as Casey Stengle said...
Let me ask this, why is it such an impossible task to have the dome repaired and ready for next opening day? The cost was about 56 million? This sounds like Rays ownership being absolute cheapskates and Tampa Bay city management being totally apathetic as well
so expensive
Double-edge sword.
The Rays don't own the ballpark, Pinellas county does.
If you are renting a house, are you going to pay for repairs instead of the landlord paying?
P.S.: last spring Pinellas county lowered the insurance from $100 million to $25 million. Worked out really well for them huh?