Spot on. Had episode, back in day when could not release pressure from attachment and got my plums ripped of by boss, by return to base with attachment that should not have been returned. He spent ages trying to remove hydraulic pipe, used everything in workshop to assist, he still could not remove. Still blamed me. Oh if only Tom had been around, or RUclips, or even the tinterweb. Cheers Tom. N.B. Just invent a time machine next so I can copy the plans to go back in history and evade my story. Keep on inventing
Tom as you know I have operated excavators in the past and yes I like it. Back in the day my hand slipped of the line and I badly sprained my thumb. It was nearly 2 weeks before I could lift a pint properly. I hope some one sees this and fits it to new build machines as standard. Thanks for sharing....
The reason it's like that is simple - the Designers are NOT users. If, as a full time user, you encounter an issue regularly it makes you start to think of a work around. Well done Tom.
Looks like a great idea Tom, doesn't look much wrong with where you fitted it, less chance of damage there👍 Watching from Kerry, Ireland. Great videos you are doing, thanks
Hi Tom, on my Volvo ecr58d you can turn the machine off with the safety lever down then turn the key to accessory with the lever still down until it beeps and you see the display screen on, then wiggle the toggles on the joystick left to right and you will hear the pressure release. I often unhitch a grab while the lines are connected and do this so I relieve pressure in the attachment and machine then unhook the lines. See if your machine will do the same. Sometimes u gotta wiggle for 20 seconds or so to get all the pressure out
Great idea on the dump valve 👍. I normally find if you turn the engine off then put the ignition back on and give the aux service a good wiggle both ways a couple of times it lets the pressure out
Ask @alisdiggerdiary I think it’s automatic release by simply switching the ignition on without starting and the actuator valve releases pressure. You may need to wiggle the levers. You are welcome :)
Brilliant idea with the dump valve Tom . As you say can't understand why a manufacturer hasn't come up with this before. It is as important discovery as hydraulics it's self a way to harness the power of the machine . 👍👍
Tom Lamb now we're problem solving Excellent idea to overcome an issue, hopefully manufacturers will take not One idea 💡 Tom more updates lol Thanks Tom Educational as ever Geoff
I never knew I found this stuff interesting :) Thanks Tom! Your fitting idea is great and makes a lot of sense. You are right, it should be like that out of the factory.
Tom, 2 things!. Why don’t you send the vid to the manufacture’s and ask why don’t they put the pressure valve on the equipment !. 2nd, what is the crushed barley used for ie, simply just added to animal feed etc. You mention it but then skip onto something else !!. Just love the info and ideas you have ! 👏🤣👍
Absolutely fecking brilliant idea tom been struggling with them fittings for years. The manufacturer could put a dump valve in the circuit but that would be too easy
Your idea worked, cant deny that. You seem to have a lot of fittings below the tap on the end of the arm. We have the coupling directly after the tap. To release pressure, i usually turn machine off, ignition back on with the levers in the live position, then work the buttons/pedal. Oh, and i leave the tap open to the couplers so the pressure can release from behind them.
Well that's a brilliant idea Tom, simple yet so effective. Wonder how much a manufacturer would charge for something like that , loads ? Good to see Dave again .
Great video Tom and your linking the hyd systems is such a simple idea I use to stick a screwdriver in them to release the pressure 🤷♂️ and the opposite end of the 57 to Olly 👍👍
Now you can create a complete "Diverter valve kit" for each popular heavy equipment model and sell those. Saves hustle for the people, so they'll most likely buy it.
Hi if you turn your ignition on put your deadman down and then operate the service switch/leaver this should release the pressure as does on all of our machines and the flat face fittings go on a treat also works on the telehandlers with the electronic joy stick if you turn on your ignition and operate the aux line it will release the pressure
Thought every farmer would know this - engine off. Ignition on. Wiggle 3rd service switch/rocker/peddle etc then you have no pressure in 3rd service lines. Some machines may have some kid of "Go" button that needs to be pushed after turning ignition on ( engine still off obvs) Also never detach pipes under pressure or your attachment pips will be under pressure and you will need the spanner. Unless your valves are bypassing pressure from other circuits, then you need to release pressure from all circuits. Some machines like newholland skidsteers have a special manifold with the 3rd service connections all fitted into that have a way to realase pressure by pushing the whole connector in to the manifold before trying to connect / disconnect. Basicaly a fancy version of your valve
I love your inventions, especially when it helps with your day to day work! Very creative solutions. UK here, probably less than a hundred miles from you haha
Tom, switch the machine off, then turn the ignition back on but don’t start it, with the dead man up move the levers to dump all hydraulic pressure and then attach your pipes. Also do this before you disconnect any pipes to dump the pressure.
Hi Tom, our 526-56 with electric joystick has a black dump button mounted outside the cab under the door next to the battery box door, pull that when you jump out and the 3rd service is depressurized. Thought they all had that from factory, surely not?
When you shut down the engine, turn the ignition back on, put up the red stick to make the hydraulics live again, and just move the sticks around, and foot controls for about 30 seconds, it'll take all the pressure out of the lines, or simply go on top the machine, to the hydraulic tank, and stand on the black rubber button, till you hear all the pressure has come out the system!
Both the Kramers and Claas Scorpions have all got buttons fitted on the boom so you can press it with the ignition on, dump the pressure, and connect the hoses without having to move (unless boomed out)
Ahha also, the ones on the jcb, we had them on a Komatsu. We just had a bar in the cab, like a punch or something, and you just push on the top of the coupling to release the pressure and same with the other one, pull the collar down and push it in. Even one of the jaws on the adjustable wrench works, it's quick and easy!
There is a tool specifically made for this problem. it is a kind of glue clamp, with tabs on it. works well for these couplers. greetings from the Netherlands
Yep, your valve idea should work. I'd have a look around for a more compact valve, depending on the exact machine (WRT how the hydraulics are set up) and the types of attachments used maybe a momentary valve would be more suitable so you CAN'T leave the valve open and then wonder why your jackhammer isn't working 😏. Thankfully most of our gear (at least the stuff I use) is old manual valves. Engine off, give the lever a wiggle and voila! No presure in the lines. Weather here in my part of regional Australia has been low-mid 30s for since Sunday, today topped out at 27. Supposed to stay about the same until Monday when we return to the 30s. Assuming the BoM are reading the entrails correctly 🙄.
Okay, this might be a stupid idea depending on how the hydraulics work, eg whether they are always pushing oil or only when activated, but what about simply keeping both ends always connected when not being used, eg. by making a short little self-made high pressure hose with matching fittings on each side?
they make a special clamp for pressing the quick connects together. irwin makes one i dont know the uk equivalent. i am watching from reno nevada. where we have legal houses of ill repute.
Is there a button in the cab that has AUX on it or the button for the locking pin release switch machine of turn ign on push sed button hold the control for it and wiggle joystick on in the jcbs
Alright fella. Just turn the machine off, and then turn the ignition back on. Twiddle away on the electric switch for 3rd service and it should dump pressure. 👍
Tom, it often takes practical people who actually use equipment to point out the bleeding obvious. In your case you found an excellent solution to a problem the “expert designers” should have solved before that kit was put on the market. Earlier this year I purchased a 6v to 12v conversion kit for my grey fergie, from a well known British Agri company. The kit arrived without any instructions and the mounting bracket didn’t line the drive belt up. It was as bad as the days when BMC pushed out stuff onto the market without any proper development, hoping the customer would just put up with it. Unbelievable in this age of CAD design and all singing and dancing AI. But at the end of the day it is the customer that has to sort out the problem.
On the JCB can you not stop the machine and then just turn the ignition on, and then press the buttons for the 3rd service back and forth to release the pressure? Seam to remember doing this on one of the JCB telehandlers I used to drive
Works well but if you're running it in dual acting mode then the other side wouldn't be a return as it'd also have pressure on it so maybe wouldn't work. I don't think it'd work on the JCB as 3rd service will be dual acting too? Usually switching the digger off, turning it back on and putting the dead man lever up then wiggle levers and move buttons for 3rd service dumps the oil pressure every time
putting the valve at the base seems like an idea backup spot later on but yeah sending the pressure and oil back to return sounds idea for your issue at hand.
Spot on. Had episode, back in day when could not release pressure from attachment and got my plums ripped of by boss, by return to base with attachment that should not have been returned. He spent ages trying to remove hydraulic pipe, used everything in workshop to assist, he still could not remove. Still blamed me. Oh if only Tom had been around, or RUclips, or even the tinterweb. Cheers Tom. N.B. Just invent a time machine next so I can copy the plans to go back in history and evade my story. Keep on inventing
Thanks for this I enjoyed reading
Another great idea Tom. Again, make sure your are protecting yourself financially with these things!! All the best from Edinburgh!
Farmer and inventer, that's what they call diversification. Top man, great video thanks.
Cheers, Poth (Wiltshire)
Glad you enjoyed it
I think it's brilliant Tom! Another practical invention from a professional farmer.
Great idea mate. It works, it's functional and practical simple easy fix. Gear job mate. 👍👍👍
Tom as you know I have operated excavators in the past and yes I like it. Back in the day my hand slipped of the line and I badly sprained my thumb. It was nearly 2 weeks before I could lift a pint properly. I hope some one sees this and fits it to new build machines as standard. Thanks for sharing....
The reason it's like that is simple - the Designers are NOT users. If, as a full time user, you encounter an issue regularly it makes you start to think of a work around. Well done Tom.
Great video as always Tom. The bypass valve is simple and elegant, just what you want for a solution. Watching from New Brunswick Canada.
Looks like a great idea Tom, doesn't look much wrong with where you fitted it, less chance of damage there👍
Watching from Kerry, Ireland.
Great videos you are doing, thanks
Hi Tom, on my Volvo ecr58d you can turn the machine off with the safety lever down then turn the key to accessory with the lever still down until it beeps and you see the display screen on, then wiggle the toggles on the joystick left to right and you will hear the pressure release. I often unhitch a grab while the lines are connected and do this so I relieve pressure in the attachment and machine then unhook the lines. See if your machine will do the same. Sometimes u gotta wiggle for 20 seconds or so to get all the pressure out
Ex Staffordian now living in Adelaide, South Australia. Look forward to new stories each week.👍👍
another one in SA originally from Devon.
Over a week without a video, I was starting to worry 😂
There is no off position on the genius switch. 💥
The simple solutions are often the best. Nice one Tom. 🙂👍🏼
@@FarmerP thanks mate
@ Credit where it’s due mate 🙂
Great idea on the dump valve 👍. I normally find if you turn the engine off then put the ignition back on and give the aux service a good wiggle both ways a couple of times it lets the pressure out
The last JCB telehandler I drove had this exact thing but a built in button and solenoid to join the service lines. Simple and worked well
Excellent idea with the valve
Ask @alisdiggerdiary I think it’s automatic release by simply switching the ignition on without starting and the actuator valve releases pressure. You may need to wiggle the levers. You are welcome :)
hi Tom what I do is turn engine off the ignition on (don't start engine) then press buttons to dump pressure.
how does that work on electro hydraulics?
stupid
Brilliant idea with the dump valve Tom . As you say can't understand why a manufacturer hasn't come up with this before. It is as important discovery as hydraulics it's self a way to harness the power of the machine . 👍👍
Jcb loaders do have a dump button on the outside of the cab
bloody brilliant idea tom 👍
Great video 👍. Great idea with releasing the pressure on the digger. All the way from Dorset! 👍👍
That is genius! As you say why don’t JCB do that
Tom Lamb now we're problem solving
Excellent idea to overcome an issue, hopefully manufacturers will take not
One idea 💡 Tom more updates lol
Thanks Tom
Educational as ever
Geoff
It is said that necessity is the mother of invention, sometimes it is the simplest of things. What a great idea. 😎
I never knew I found this stuff interesting :) Thanks Tom! Your fitting idea is great and makes a lot of sense. You are right, it should be like that out of the factory.
Tom, 2 things!. Why don’t you send the vid to the manufacture’s and ask why don’t they put the pressure valve on the equipment !. 2nd, what is the crushed barley used for ie, simply just added to animal feed etc. You mention it but then skip onto something else !!. Just love the info and ideas you have ! 👏🤣👍
Tom did say he was crushing barley for animal feed.
By crushing the grain before feeding it to the animals it's easier for them to digest.
Hi Tom. That was a neat fix on the hydraulics. Nice job! 👍🏻
Good evening, Tom. It's another great video. It's a great idea to put the valve across the lines on the digger. Concrete not new for long
Definitely a great idea. Love your videos!
Hiya, yes I always enjoy watching your content....I live in Leicester....at the opposite end of the world to you in Stamford...
Glad your back to educate us with your engineering Brain. Thanks
Our jcb has a dump button next to the joystick works a treat.
Absolutely fecking brilliant idea tom been struggling with them fittings for years. The manufacturer could put a dump valve in the circuit but that would be too easy
Your idea worked, cant deny that. You seem to have a lot of fittings below the tap on the end of the arm. We have the coupling directly after the tap. To release pressure, i usually turn machine off, ignition back on with the levers in the live position, then work the buttons/pedal. Oh, and i leave the tap open to the couplers so the pressure can release from behind them.
Watching between Danish Invader and Colin, keep up the good work.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Great idea Tom. Watching from East Preston on the South coast.
Well that's a brilliant idea Tom, simple yet so effective. Wonder how much a manufacturer would charge for something like that , loads ? Good to see Dave again .
Great video Tom and your linking the hyd systems is such a simple idea I use to stick a screwdriver in them to release the pressure 🤷♂️ and the opposite end of the 57 to Olly 👍👍
Now you can create a complete "Diverter valve kit" for each popular heavy equipment model and sell those. Saves hustle for the people, so they'll most likely buy it.
Hi if you turn your ignition on put your deadman down and then operate the service switch/leaver this should release the pressure as does on all of our machines and the flat face fittings go on a treat also works on the telehandlers with the electronic joy stick if you turn on your ignition and operate the aux line it will release the pressure
Yes sometimes it does sometimes it doesn’t
Good idea on the pressure bleeding off.
Thought every farmer would know this - engine off. Ignition on. Wiggle 3rd service switch/rocker/peddle etc then you have no pressure in 3rd service lines. Some machines may have some kid of "Go" button that needs to be pushed after turning ignition on ( engine still off obvs)
Also never detach pipes under pressure or your attachment pips will be under pressure and you will need the spanner.
Unless your valves are bypassing pressure from other circuits, then you need to release pressure from all circuits.
Some machines like newholland skidsteers have a special manifold with the 3rd service connections all fitted into that have a way to realase pressure by pushing the whole connector in to the manifold before trying to connect / disconnect. Basicaly a fancy version of your valve
Another great video tom .
I love your inventions, especially when it helps with your day to day work! Very creative solutions. UK here, probably less than a hundred miles from you haha
Tom, switch the machine off, then turn the ignition back on but don’t start it, with the dead man up move the levers to dump all hydraulic pressure and then attach your pipes. Also do this before you disconnect any pipes to dump the pressure.
The vent button on the telehandler does work to dump the pressure. Just push it and hold until it beeps at you. Cheaper than a valve 😉
Hi Tom, our 526-56 with electric joystick has a black dump button mounted outside the cab under the door next to the battery box door, pull that when you jump out and the 3rd service is depressurized. Thought they all had that from factory, surely not?
Hello from Isle of Arran! Glad to see David keeping an eye on you! 👌👌👌
Nice solution. Greetings from Canada.
When you shut down the engine, turn the ignition back on, put up the red stick to make the hydraulics live again, and just move the sticks around, and foot controls for about 30 seconds, it'll take all the pressure out of the lines, or simply go on top the machine, to the hydraulic tank, and stand on the black rubber button, till you hear all the pressure has come out the system!
very good idea Tom
Both the Kramers and Claas Scorpions have all got buttons fitted on the boom so you can press it with the ignition on, dump the pressure, and connect the hoses without having to move (unless boomed out)
My Kramer dumps it on button with the engine running as well
Ahha also, the ones on the jcb, we had them on a Komatsu. We just had a bar in the cab, like a punch or something, and you just push on the top of the coupling to release the pressure and same with the other one, pull the collar down and push it in. Even one of the jaws on the adjustable wrench works, it's quick and easy!
Great thinking.
Great video tom on are ec 88 we have taps on the end of 3rd & return lines next to quick release which means we need spanner your id is a lot better
Great idea & good video Tom. Keep them coming
Thanks 👍
Our new Kramer came with a dump button at head. Such a simple idea.
Great idea
Watching from Edinburgh 😊
Watching and learning from Bundaberg Queensland Australia 👍🤠🦘🇦🇺🪃🌏
Watching your videos from Barefoot Bay, Florida, USA.
There is a tool specifically made for this problem. it is a kind of glue clamp, with tabs on it. works well for these couplers. greetings from the Netherlands
Good simple fix to an everyday problem, surely a company like JCB could of done this long ago , it would add a few quid to a machine costing over 100k
Another brilliant video! Matt from Burton on Trent
How do you store the crushed barley.
MX (loaders) do a MACH2 multi coupler which is a 2 pipe version of the multi pipe ones found on NH and Class combines. great for 4in1 buckets etc.
well done tom im watching from durham
Great video, great idea!
Yep, your valve idea should work. I'd have a look around for a more compact valve, depending on the exact machine (WRT how the hydraulics are set up) and the types of attachments used maybe a momentary valve would be more suitable so you CAN'T leave the valve open and then wonder why your jackhammer isn't working 😏.
Thankfully most of our gear (at least the stuff I use) is old manual valves. Engine off, give the lever a wiggle and voila! No presure in the lines.
Weather here in my part of regional Australia has been low-mid 30s for since Sunday, today topped out at 27. Supposed to stay about the same until Monday when we return to the 30s. Assuming the BoM are reading the entrails correctly 🙄.
Okay, this might be a stupid idea depending on how the hydraulics work, eg whether they are always pushing oil or only when activated, but what about simply keeping both ends always connected when not being used, eg. by making a short little self-made high pressure hose with matching fittings on each side?
Another cunning device Tom, now we're engineering! Watching from Claremont, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia (convict territory) 😂
they make a special clamp for pressing the quick connects together. irwin makes one i dont know the uk equivalent. i am watching from reno nevada. where we have legal houses of ill repute.
Is there a button in the cab that has AUX on it or the button for the locking pin release switch machine of turn ign on push sed button hold the control for it and wiggle joystick on in the jcbs
Stella idea.
Great idea
Alright fella. Just turn the machine off, and then turn the ignition back on. Twiddle away on the electric switch for 3rd service and it should dump pressure. 👍
I think that's a great Idea Tom, you should patent it.
Tom, it often takes practical people who actually use equipment to point out the bleeding obvious.
In your case you found an excellent solution to a problem the “expert designers” should have solved before that kit was put on the market.
Earlier this year I purchased a 6v to 12v conversion kit for my grey fergie, from a well known British Agri company.
The kit arrived without any instructions and the mounting bracket didn’t line the drive belt up. It was as bad as the days when BMC pushed out stuff onto the market without any proper development, hoping the customer would just put up with it.
Unbelievable in this age of CAD design and all singing and dancing AI.
But at the end of the day it is the customer that has to sort out the problem.
thats a great idea but whats the green tractor doing in the massey yard😊😊
Brilliant Tom going to do that to my diggers 👍👍
I see a new Tom Lamb video. I click. Watching from Saffhamtun (Southampton)
The simplest solutions are usually the best. They probably thought it would be too difficult to draw up in CAD to add the tap!
Having had a face full of hydraulic fluid from the 3rd service line on our small jcb telehandler, I think that is a great idea!
I’m sure it’s been asked for already but I would buy “David the cat” merch! Perhaps with a paws in wet concrete motif!!
Tom, David didn't want feeding. He was upset that you'd been filming without him! 🐱🐱
Great idea, top video. 👌
On the JCB can you not stop the machine and then just turn the ignition on, and then press the buttons for the 3rd service back and forth to release the pressure? Seam to remember doing this on one of the JCB telehandlers I used to drive
We have a jcb 535 at work with a bulk bag bucket and them 3rd service pipes are always a pain to take off or put back on.
Love the pressure valve thing. I'm only an amateur digger but I hate the constant in and out of the cab to dick about with lines. Well done!
That’s exactly what I thought Tom 👍🏻 oil leak in barn 🤔
Works well but if you're running it in dual acting mode then the other side wouldn't be a return as it'd also have pressure on it so maybe wouldn't work. I don't think it'd work on the JCB as 3rd service will be dual acting too?
Usually switching the digger off, turning it back on and putting the dead man lever up then wiggle levers and move buttons for 3rd service dumps the oil pressure every time
Another great video ❤
I think it’s a great idea! Make it a solenoid valve that you can just push a button inside the cab.
Tom Lamb = Dr. Emmett Brown of farming. I can just imagine Tom on he's next video saying. I've now got the JCB on plutonium. Hahahh😂
Very cool vid from team Lamb farming fantastic 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Watching from Salem, Oregon.
putting the valve at the base seems like an idea backup spot later on but yeah sending the pressure and oil back to return sounds idea for your issue at hand.
Grate video as always tom love the wife's channel to now n videos mr massey mad 😅guy as always kind regards from Mr valtra South Ireland 🇮🇪
The new concrete may look a little messy, but it'll clean up much easier compared with the old yard
On the jcb with just key on press and hold one of the accessorise buttons you will hear it dump pressure and you will see the line make a jump