Theodore Dalrymple: Britain's Vanishing Culture & Character
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- This week's guest on "So What You're Saying Is..." is Theodore Dalrymple, the English writer, doctor and psychiatrist.
Dalrymple is a contributing editor to City Journal, published by the Manhattan Institute, where he is the Dietrich Weismann Fellow. In addition to City Journal, his work has appeared in The British Medical Journal, The Times, The Observer, The Daily Telegraph, The Spectator, The Salisbury Review, National Review, New English Review, and Axess magasin. He is the author of a number of books, including Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass; Our Culture, What's Left of It; and Spoilt Rotten: The Toxic Cult of Sentimentality.
In his writing, Dalrymple frequently argues that the socially liberal and progressive views prevalent within Western intellectual circles minimise the responsibility of individuals for their own actions and undermine traditional mores, contributing to the formation within prosperous countries of an underclass afflicted by endemic violence, criminality, sexually transmitted diseases, welfare dependency, and drug abuse. Much of Dalrymple's writing is based on his experience of working with criminals and the mentally ill.
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As a young man I have been saying exactly this for years. When I think of my country, Britain, nothing comes to mind. It has just become a bland, miserable, and lifeless gray stew that is wholly indiscernible. Most of this hinges on the mass immigration and the massive cultural shifts that has brought, alongside the ever increasing tyranny of the government.
Sharon Osbourne, believe it or not, said it best when she said, 'Britain has lost it's warmth and quaintness', that sums it all up really, and it's a tragedy.
From a foreigner living in Britain: listen carefully to this brilliant man.
I'm listening through my expat/Hungarian ears.... so very true.
I was born in Britain but emigrated as a child and I’m so sad to see what is happening there. When I first visited Britain in the 90s there was a strong and rich culture that the locals were obviously very proud of. Since then it seems the indigenous British culture has been changed by multiculturalism and Brits are forbidden from speaking about it or from showing any patriotism to the original national identity. 😢😢😢🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I can also see the decline since the 90s but most can not, it seems culture is being destroyed by some sort of very rich and powerful elite and the politicians and media tag along maybe they are part of the problem.
The same here in Germany. The EU as part of the global "deep state" wants to destroy national identity everywhere.The ultimate goal is a world wide global communism where all people (without origin) are equal (poor). Just some people will be more equal then others. It´s the new world order, but the "elite will fail with their plans to destroy Europe. Brexit is a first step, hopefully other EU-countries will follow.
Yep. It's all very sad.
I don't think it is quite as bad as it appears from the outside. London and a few other areas have changed significantly but most places haven't, and the tide is turning and there is hope for the future.
@@dnordwest yes its tragic idiotical very sad but truth!!!!
We were never asked, WHY? Because we would have said NO. Enough is enough STOP this madness and close the borders
Britain's mistake was adopting democracy.
@@alejandrobustos693 No, Britains mistake was importing non white people here. Its that simple.
@@fozzilla123 it's not the colour, it's the culture. It's the people's shared values, accepted behaviours and sense of identity. But yes flooding the country with a very different culture(s) you are going to change the country ireversably. Its colonisation not multi culturalism. Very evil, ideologically driven minds did this too us.
@@alejandrobustos693 Universal suffrage is a lie REEE
@@hermit4706 race and culture are indistinct to me,one reflects the other.Many people if not all here complains about the sensible and very taboo word: multiracialism.
I miss the elegance of queue, the dignity of the restaurant, the vivacious support of cricket, the sobriety of a pub, the exuberance of a picnic, the freedom of HydePark corner, the respect for time place and property, the Sunday bell ringing, the respect for a Boby.
You hit the nail on the head ! 👍
Did I read that correctly? The sobriety of a pub?
@@1080lights I noticed that as well 😂
We are doomed to lose these things forever. The future is the joyless gleam of Dubai for the minority and the slums of Caracas for the vast, vast majority. 😢
What is a Boby?
The Britain I grew up in has ceased to exist I fear for the future.
Evolution
@@katweasel
retrograde
I agree. It seems to have taken two stages. 'Old Britain' which I knew as a child, seemed to disappear in the 1960s, and if one wants a year, 1965, the year Churchill died and when 'modernisation' was really coming in; after that, 'casual' seemed to become the norm; our wonderful railway system decimated. The CofE was still strong and still providing its benign influence, and it is remarkable how much it has declined in significance in only the last twenty years. Since then, it has been slowly eroded, but another defining year was 1999, when the House of Lords ceased to have 'real lords' (well, it still has a few, I know) and Blair had recently dispensed with the Royal Yacht, which was the most potent symbol of Britain worldwide and could easily have paid its way through charters, which were just becoming popular.
@@johnvaughan8653 Delusions.
It’s now Euroabria.
"Culture" is just a proxy for the people themselves. "Britain's vanishing _culture"_ is just a euphemism for the fact that the British people are being defined out of existence and bred out of their lands.
Very true.
@@shaunpatrick8345 Yes but another ethnic group is pulling the strings from behind the curtain.
So start breeding again.
@A M
Shame you can’t respond to Shawn Patrick O’Jameson’s point regarding your “How ironic” comment.
Exposes how uneducated and ignorant your thoughts are.
My Irish nan use to say the same thing about the British occupation of her country...
I left the UK for France 13 years ago. It's quite apparent that life in the UK has deteriorated significantly over the last few decades. The soul has left the country. Our young are being taught to despise our culture, history and race. Sick.
Spot on. We left the UK after Blair got power and thought of going back recently. Brits desperately need some patriots in parliament somewhat like Le Pens party. Can it happen though.
I live in France. It's the same here.
@@claudesantolini6335 I live in France , the Brits don't realise that fact.
Our new culture is mediated through the cellphone..
The personification of wisdom.
Britain needs to abandon the UN.
We all do.
"The coarsening of culture" - really sums up quite a lot, in a very few words. I also liked how Theodore picked up on the current fad of self-expression - 'letting it all hang out' so to speak. As if it is some cure-all for what ails you when in most cases it is just narcissistic drivel or an excuse to behave badly. "Politics is the new religion" - which is why some people get worked up into such a lather about it - to the extent that Remainers are quite prepared to sacrifice democracy in order to kill Brexit off.
I blame Oprah for all this outpouring of inner feelings and emotions. It is quite vulgar and very un-British.
A lot of people shouldn't express their inner self, in my opinion. It's not a good look on them.
@@jimmieoakland3843 Exactly: 'it is better to remain silent so that others only suspect your stupidity, than to open your mouth and instantly confirm it' - Quintin Crisp.
@@brynleytalbot778o, such attrocities do need to be exposed no one here is suggesting that anyone take such abuse in silence.
Fantastic. I absolutely love Theodore Dalrymple. I miss his column in the Spectator so much. Peter, you consistently have all my favourite people on your channel. Thank you so much.
I always enjoyed Theodore Dalrymple's Spectator articles, it was lovely to see him in person.
Wow! What a coup. I have read his stuff for years, never seen or heard him. Thank you for this interview Peter.
It's very refreshing to listen to wise mild mannered people speaking sense in these juvenile times. It's as if you are with this Gentleman observing over a herd of sheep conditioned with modern hysteria.
Yes, we're among the coarser peoples of Europe, and being working class I can say that whilst we're coarse in many ways, we're unpretentious and take people at face value. Britain needs a cultural renaissance, brexit itself is important but just one part of what Britain needs. We need a fully fledged cultural revival, and we need to rub the noses of the left in it!
Jack Doe But if you take people at face value, you are rather pretentious towards them. Someone who is coarse just blunders on. The chap interviewed here has noted a coarseness in society: that includes coarseness in high as well as low society, as it were. Somewhere in the interview, he mentions hearing "fuck" every ten minutes when out and about. It was not that long ago when children, even in working-class areas, let me rephrase, including children in working-class areas of Britain, were heard to say, on hearing a foul-mouthed utterance, "Mummy, that man said a bad word."
Aspects of British culture are further slung down the drain in the name of political-point scoring and modernity. The right is as bad as the left in that. Not even the right has faith in traditional British customs and values. They don't know what they are. Don't they know how their great-grand-parents lived? They, who went to church and enjoyed a dance?
Great interview Peter, thanks. I'm not sure, however, that Theodore's admiration for the 'bohemian' is entirely consistent with his bemoaning the 'coarsening' of our society. Most bohemian behaviours could be considered as 'coarse' when practiced by the masses rather than a few eccentric individuals. In a similar way to that in which motoring and foreign holidays have only become problematic environmentally now that they are activities pursued by the masses.
The destruction of English culture is basically about race.
If you see no problem when all of the major cities comprise a white MINORITY population then all is well. If you see that as a form of destruction then all is NOT well,
As members of the EU we trade at a massive financial disadvantage and have to pay a large fee to do it !
Taking it further, it's all about replacing the UK population with a cheap, low skilled, compliant immigrant option to ensure the profits of big business increase endlessly.
Captain Dallas Wow. Your are in for a very rude awakening young one. What are you gonnna do when Englands majority population is Muslim? That's due to happen within just a few decades.q
@@matthewcb1970 These people aren't even net producers. It's all about racial genocide. Look at the actual NUMBERS involved here rather than surface-level rhetoric about "the economy." These people do not pay into the system. Only other people of northwestern European ancestry are net contributors to the actual economy. This is the same in Norway, in Denmark, the US and every other country where you can find this data.
Mr Dalrymple's points on the coarseness of the UK is very true, the saddest of this is the architecture of the 60's and 70's, also his comments on tattoos, now it's piercings it's not enough to get your ears pierced.
I agree. On tattoos and especially piercing ones body, there may also be an indication of personality disorder.
Apparently, you are supposed to see beyond the piercings to the person, and you're failure to do that is an indictment on your perception of others without prejudice. What it actually is is a deliberate creation of a barrier in a perverse attempt to claim moral superiority by a subcultural 'rebel' who sees appearance as rebellion. All comes from the 'punk' subculture, which was foolishly regarded as an artistically and culturally 'progressive' movement when it was no more than the an inarticulate expression of rebellion akin to that of a 5 yr old 'naughty' child. Major factor in present day 'attitude' - it's all about attitude, nothing else - of those brainwashed narcissists who identify as 'students'.
@@pearlygeoff1789 - it is a form of Narcissism which is a personality disorder. Unfortunately, that particular disorder lives in the same folder as Sociopath an Psychopath. Known in the politically correct universe as 'anti-social behaviour.'
@@rogernewton7831 or depression as in my nephew's case, those large ear rings are the worst as they stretch the skin to the point of no return.
Having lived abroad for a number of years, I have returned to the North of England.
I must say, that I agree about the coarsening of language but I do see alot of courtesy in working class people...not the underclass subculture, I hasten to add!
I agree that the Church is beginning to be the place where decency and community still exists.
I urge anyone reading this, to go to one...
Just at the end of your street, it doesn't need to be a huge gathering.
Do pray and ask God the Father to show you that Jesus is alive.
He is the only sinless man who lived a perfect life and gave it up, taking a horrible crucifixion death in our place.
He rose from the dead on the third day, defeating death and He ascended to heaven in front of 500 witnesses who went out and completely changed the world.
So Jesus is the Hope of all nations.
This lovely man needs that hope as do we all
Love in Jesus Name
Denise Bond that’s simply because Christians stopped using them to worship in. Same here in Quebec, churches closing every week and mosques being opened.
“The underclass subculture” don’t you mean other people sharing a community who might not adopt the same values as yourself? I’m sure your Jesus wouldn’t have made the same distinction.... too many Christians and not enough Christ like people 😜
When are we going to start, who's prepared to lead and what is the best way to go about reversing this population replacement agenda? That's all I'm concerned with as everything else pales into insignificance in comparison.
@A M no I won't
@Bear hn depends on what side your looking at it from. For most, non assimilation is definitely not a plus. Only for those who hate their own people, and culture.
If those coming in who refuse to assimilate bring with them a culture that is backward, to the point that the advances made by your own culture will be destroyed, and society will go back to the brutal, and short life of the past, it is not a good thing
@Bear hn I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you, or if you are misunderstanding me. Are you a Brit or not?
If not, get the hell out of Britain if you don't want to assimilate, and if you are, you misunderstand what I'm saying, and I misunderstood you.
@Bear "Only a fool would mix themselves out of existence and destroy their unique heritage and identity"
Yep. The elites wish for more fools but its not happening. Walk around mixed neighborhoods you'll see people paired off with their own kind. The mixed exceptions tend to be victims of circumstance.
Max 2sg Patriotic Alternative!
I so admire Theodore Dalrymple! I read life at the bottom, with a dictionary at my side, and it opened my eyes to how this culture gravitates to the lowest common denominator. Prior to the late 60s it seems everyone wanted to aspire to do and be better, but now even the rich seem to want to go low and common.
Excellent comment
How on earth could anybody imagine to be able to preserve a British - or any other European - culture when you flood it with foreign incompatible cultures??
@Joel Harvey A few immigrants every year is fine and perhaps even desirable but it should always be in almost unnoticeable (assimilable) numbers, and yes, what's been going on in the west is entirely the fault of unwise progressive types and I would argue weak conservatives..
@Joel Harvey I thought I did answer.. But expanding I generally think it's unlikely to disrupt/weaken a culture more than with large immigration, but of course that disruption is less with more like minded cultures (like Germans) or more quite cultures (like east asians) shall we say - but yes, very large numbers of Chinese, Japanese, Indians or Polish immigrants would also by definition be a weakening of the original culture, obviously, while a small number getting assimilated as they come could be a blessing.
Some think that this (a fast diminishing original - European - culture) will be a benefit for society in the long run, but I think it will lead to Balkanization and war.
Dr Dalrymple is a most delightful and insightful person.
The total degeneracy of vast swathes of ethnic Britons is deeply shocking. On the bright side, such people often undergo a volte-face when exposed to Truth: at least those capable of it. If they cannot pull themselves up by the bootstraps and out of the moral, intellectual and spiritual mire.... they're finished! Remember Alfred the Great - and submit to Divine guidance.
I have followed TD for many years, and find his writing always interesting and deep. It's great to see him on such a great interview program as SWYSI.
What wonderful social commentary on contemporary life. Common sense that also rises above itself: erudite, informed, thoughtful, contemplative. Can't get enough of 'Second Opinion', 'If Symptoms Persist', etc. The man's a treasure.
I am hanging on to my Cornish Celtic culture against the influence of the foreign upcountry English! Respect the culture your parents have handed to you and hand it down to your children. From Bodmin, Cornwall.
PATRIOTISM AND BREXIT
LEST WE FORGET. Remember all of those men and women who fought and gave their lives in two world wars and more, so that we should be free, free to choose our own destiny. Remember all those Scots, Welsh, English and yes, Irish too. And not forgetting all those from our old empire, Indians, South Africans, Canadians, New Zealanders and allies too, such as the Americans, Ghurkhas and Sikhs, the list is long. Remember that they fought and died for our freedom. It is not ours to give away. And let us not forget the cost of freedom, it is not to be bought or sold or given away like so many pieces of silver. It is to be treasured and fought for every time it is threatened, even from the enemy within.
NEVER FORGET
THIS TWELFTH OF DECEMBER
BETRAYAL TREASON AND PLOT
VOTE BREXIT
Yep my Grandfather and Father fought Fascism - They certainly did not put their lives at risk for the fascist ideology of the Brexit Party. My Grandfather would never vote for those clowns. He fought for freedom - Churchill believed in Europe - anyone who disagrees with that spits on their legacy.
Yep Agree Utter Bollocks
Excellent interview, Peter. I could listen to this chap all day.
How absolutely refreshing to hear this man and his views. Someone who has worked in prisons, lived in Africa, for long periods, and can speak from what he sees around him. Most elsewhere is waffle from NGO's, celebrities and tabloid journalists who go there for 3 or 4 days, full expenses paid and have agendas. This programme is what the public should be hearing. Thats the real world. Great broadcast.
Peter that interview was far too short! where is the rest so absorbing. Thank you both.
When Dr Dalrymple says that many have lost “The ability to put ones own suffering in perspective” I recognize it as part of the prevalent narcissistic mindset that focuses exclusively on self and lacks any perspective or empathy for others. Christianity focuses us on our neighbour and encourages self-forgetfulness, I’d recommend it.
“When you don’t believe in God, you’ll believe in anything.”
Yeah like reason and rationality. You need to read more books esp re enlightenment.
Ps: talking snakes dont exist
@@oinkooink oh the ol' it's not to be meant to be understood literally chestnut. So tell me Fred Astaire is the bible s reference to earth being created in 6 days, dudes living inside a whale for 3 days, people turning into statues of salt, parting seas, zoo boats, floods sheltering 8 millions pairs of animal kinds and Palestinian zombies .. also not supposed to be literal or is it when you put on your dancing shoes and tap dance your way out of it?
To think that adults living in the 21st century with the world s knowledge at the click of button still believe in such bullshit is beyond belief.
' Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities' - Voltaire
Another excellent talk. I hope one day I can come to see something live and have conversations with people like this. I live in Middlesbrough and I am not university educated so I spend hours and hours listening to stuff like this. Thank you and please do keep us informed.
You can join the new culture forum I think it's around £4 a month? You will be sent invitations to live speaking events across the country.
Wonderful interview. I could listen to that man talk for hours. For me, the fact that he spent 15 years working as a psychiatrist in the British prison system adds so much more authority to his views. I wonder if some of the more left-wing, "woke" thinkers would still retain their beliefs if they had similar experiences.
After all that shit delivered on a daily basics from our politicians this interview is a breath of fresh air , with men like Theodore we might still have a chance , thank you - Swavek
Most definitely the loss of Christian values is the core issue when one contemplates the degradation seen in Western society. It goes hand in hand with the loss of self worth & dignity.
Islam today is the christianity of 100 years ago, I say good riddance to All forms of religion
@@garylantow-humble7611 hahaha Islam is not going anywhere. You will be conquered boy.
People, look up from your phone's & observe your surroundings.
I really appreciated this interview. I've bought one one of Theodore's books, and long followed his column in the Speccie and Telegraph.
Also good to see/watch a non screechy aggressive interview where the subject of the interview is allowed to express themself.
I agree with the coarsening of public life and discourse in Britain, and also concur in that not all Europeans disapprove of Brexit.
London is over half ethnic groups 300 different languages spoken in London, Other city's and some towns are getting the same ,TV as more ethnic groups newsreaders soaps weather forecasters advertisement ex ex ,we are losing our identity and in the near distant future we will be a minority in our own country . The goverment should not have allowed this to happen, we have to leave the EU and take back control of our country for our children grandchildren and future generations.
Snowy Owel the politicians wanted it to happen! They are the cause of it....Blair and his cronies 😡
@@simonstones1918 And because they are millionaire's it won't affect them like it will less well of people in our country. They only care about themselves we have to do this for our freedom leave the EU so the government can be taken to account without hiding behind EU laws rules and regulations .And be influenced by money.
Snowy Owel ....that’s the fascinating question I find that never gets asked: why did they and do they still, allow it to happen. Obviously we know why Blair did it, to increase the labour voters. But now....? Perhaps it’s just the guilt the Left have put on to the subject of immigration. Apparently the masses don’t want it but still it’s allowed and encouraged. None of the idiots will stop it so into the abyss of chronic overcrowding we go.....a dystopian vision of the future of this country....
@@simonstones1918 I agree and corbyn is one not to trust. He apparently as changed his mind on immigration I believe it is all just to get votes he will go back on everything he says. Corbyn is so under the thumb of London he is having his strings pulled. Which shows in the fact he as been a eurosceptic all his political life yet he as changed his mind to keep in with the ethnic group in London, corbyn does not see beyond London in my opinion. He said he wants family's of immigrants to be allowed to come here That would put more pressure on our NHS schools housing jobs and benifits. Corbyn is a disaster waiting to happen and must never ever happen. Just my opinion of cause
@@snowyowel7961 yes we have to make sure it happens....
Ahhh finally, someone has finally remembered Mary Whitehouse. I give the British army 10 years as the new guard inevitably take over its ranks.
I was one who laughed at her, but now I realise how right she was.
Some of the most genuine people I know speak coarse language. In fact, I've found swearing often people to be more honest than those who speak the queens English , but who's real face is quite ugly. Like some of our politicians , no.
Swearing can be a sign of strong explanation marks, or, passionate feelings, and that is fine. That is when it is honest and used in context. However, it is all too often used out of context, too loud and too often and shouldn't be used in mixed company . That is the proper British way.
Coarse language can't be equivalent to using curse words. They do NOT correlate. You need to consider that we are talking about vulgarity being the stock and trade of someone who is using coarse language, it entails a much lower level of communication. I do know that there are definitely ugly people using the queens English, but don't fool yourself into thinking that vulgar people are somehow less ugly
That doesn't make them intelligent and we need intelligence to get out of this mess.
Gentleman. But has the atheism of people like him contributed to the coarsening of English social life about which he complains?
28:34: “I think one of the reasons we have so many political sects now [...] is a loss of religious belief - although I can’t say myself that I have any religious belief.”
@One Race Through Adam Then how are most countries in Africa amongst the most corrupt countries in the world and why do so many "godfearing" Africans come to secular countries then? Belief in a deity is in fact a sign of a primitive culture and individually a failure of reason.
@@EresirThe1st - Sorry, but this is an utter caricature of history. Atheism is on record at least as early as Euripides, and likely existed much before, and theists have always offered justifications for their faith via argument - Augustine, Aquinas, and those such as William Lane Craig today.
A lot of good points:
- Politics or 'saving the planet' to give life meaning in place of seeking God
- Involuntary bad traits in place of individual responsibility & the struggle against those failings
- Focus on self & your sensitivities & emotions instead of putting others first
Are we missing the underpinnings of Christianity 🤔
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You can be thoughtful and spiritual without an outside religion. You can be in touch with your own feelings, self-awareness and needs etc, without being selfish. The better you look after yourself , the better you are able to help others. The more you have , the more you can give. It is all to do with each individuals consciences.
Speaking of tattoos, one hot summer day in New York, I descended into the "subway". People were minimally dressed because of the heat, so I could see that everybody in my subway car, of whatever color, was tatooed! Tatoos are a form of self-mutilation. And they date quickly. "I love Herbie" can become an indelible reminder of a past relationship.
They are narcissistic. I’ve heard people say “I’ve got this tattoo because I want to be reminded of this memory” have you got amnesia or something? Why do you need a £500 tattoo to remember your grandad died? You are signalling your “virtue”
What a delightful, civilized conversation. Aren't those now illegal?
It's absolutely criminal what has happened and it began with the BLAIR creature
Why is it so difficult for the modern intellectual to have faith in God. I do think they must take their own share in the moral decline of the west.
So true. The hubris of assuming all is known and all is rational is mad. But it's all there is now - Dawkins etc. And of course we are invaded by people that do know there is a God.
Why aren't the British acting like the Hong Kong Chinese ? They're 6 months in to it & show no signs of stopping regardless of the mounting force opposing them. Who'd have thought they have more courage than the pacified British citizen ?
First of all, the Hong Kong thing is astroturfed. Secondly, the people policing the Hong Kong thing are also ethnic Chinese with orders to use the kid gloves. Not so in Europe.
What a thought-provoking, interesting, articulate and powerful interview. How sad that we never hear such things on prime-time radio or TV. I am so glad that I stumbled across it. At the same time, it made me sad to realise that I've lived through a political, social and educational malaise that has so terribly undermined and changed the values and behaviours of the British nation.
I have to agree with this man. Britain used to be lauded for its self restraint, politeness and pragmatism. Pragmatism especially allowed people with different views to get along with each other with respect and pleasant discourse. You could have a debate or discussion followed by a cup of tea and a handshake and everybody felt valued and part of the "process". There was no need for "latin" temper and loudness. There was no need for middle eastern barbarity and fundamentalism. This is why so many of the world's population, during the last century, looked up to Britain as the epitome and benchmark of a civilised, safe and well behaved society. In just one generation all of these traits have mostly disappeared from British culture. We now have young women vomiting in the streets on a Friday night, young men with a total disrespect for authority, teachers and their parents, drug culture on the rise, the highest incidence of teenage pregnancies in Europe, and a youth that no longer cares or respects hard work, discipline, self improvement, learning or community.
This sort of behaviour happens nowhere else in Europe. Generally there seems to be a dignity and self respect in European young people that no longer exists in the UK. Our youth are running amok and they wear their antisocial behaviour as a badge of notoriety. It seems their only ambition is to be on the banal and trivial X-factor, and other programmes like this, driven by fawning and massively undereducated parents who think their fat, pimply, moronic spawn are hugely talented. Or they want a great well-paid job doing "something" that makes them feel special, even though they have no experience. This attitude of selfish and boorish entitlement didn't exist 30 years ago.
As an immigrant to this country, I made the decision to come to Britain 30 years ago because of the respect and delight I had for this countries modest and low-key natives and institutions - and its respect for the rule of law. 30 years on and I find it staggering how a country can devolve from such a respected place in the world to an almost third world, uneducated, anti-intellectual, violent and narcissistic tribal society that truly cares about no one. On a personal level I now feel afraid to live in the country I once loved. With a total lack of community interaction and care, with increasing violence, knife crime, a polarised population and a politicised police force, I think it's time to leave the inmates in charge of the madhouse and uproot for rural France or Australia where there are people who care about their communities, respect good common sense values and live a larger life based on looking outwards to help those around them and behave in an unpretentious, dignified, humble and life affirming way.
Theodore Dalrymple is a fantastic writer. Entertaining, funny and educational with wisdom throughout. Have around 4-5 books, all which I have read. Looking for more.
It should be clear to all that Britain has lost far more than it has gained with its immigration/assimilation and liberality policies, much like the USA, since the 1960s.
About time. We don't see enough of this man.
I am a Yankee, but the internet has brought me much more aware of and closer to my British cultural roots. I'm so glad we have access to such amazing thinkers and cultural analysts as Dalrymple, Scruton, and Douglas Murray.
Thank you Britain for giving us 500 years of writers, thinkers, scientists, and enlightenment. Let's not allow the post-modernists to strip that away from us, but let us defend it tenaciously.
Cringe.
It’s so sad what’s happening to England and most other countries in Western Europe 😥
We will build something new. They can have the buildings, they can have the wealth. My people mean more than towers of stone.
Excellent thank you. Have just ordered a couple of Mr Dalrymple's books.
What a wonderful man. I've seen his name plenty of times on the side panel of things I read or watch online, but this is the first time I've experienced what he has to say or write. I'll definitely be bingeing for a while now.
Cheers from Australia!
I live in northern ireland i voted for leave because i firmly believe that is the very best for uk ..however in this election i have no one to vote for who is pro brexit..the dup say they are but the failed to convince me after voting for boris' deal ....i think i will spoil my vote..i have always voted and believe it is my moral and civil duty but i am utterly despondant at this situation
and more to this strange breed of folks: Mr. Dalrymple, a man of great culture and kindness undoubtedly, makes me remember Nigel Lawson, Thatcher's ex chancellor: perfect gentlemen, protectors of Britishness and the independence and purity of those islands....from the prairies of Provence, or the streets of Paris. It must be nostalgia.
I loved Theodore Dalrymple's column in the New Statesman, years ago. If you're interviewing him, you've got to get Jonathan Meades on the show.
I am an ( immigrant ) admirer of traditional British values, which is why I came to the UK. I cannot describe how depressing to see everything crumpling before my eyes and it all happened in three or four decades. Successive governments, the BBC and the MSM and education are to blame for ruining the British values. I have nothing against tattoos but the fact that it suddenly became so widespread indicate an underlying problem in the western societies in general, ditto the obsession with pets ( I am an animal lover) especially when associated with decline of the very important institution of the family and raising children. In my view, a civilisation ceases to be so once it leads to its own destruction
it is so true, we have lost all the real characters we used to have across all our industries and we are poorer for it, we are now inundated by plastics in both packaging and people
It’s sad that the majority of people in this vapid culture will or would never watch this.
My favourite channel. Thankyou
To have a culture requires people to maintain it. British culture imports people instead of producing them, hence it will likely change over time. The cause is women chasing careers instead of raising large families. It is a woman's right to do this and thus the change is likely to continue.
Top-down autocrats imported the people. No one ever agreed to it. No one ever asked the public. The "culture" won't change, it's just the indigenous ethnic population will be replaced by invaders if nothing is done and Britain will be no more.
@@warpsneed9338. The politicians were voted in by the British electorate. They made no secret of their policy, which has the approval of the majority of "indigenous". Even with a policy change, UK fertility is below replacement level, so without the imports the population declines to the point where the country is unable to function and would be taken over by an outside power. The elites need to maintain a competitive population size. There have been 8 million+ abortions since the 60s, the culture is women choosing to restrict their offspring to below replacement level. In the past British women had a higher fertility rate because they had to marry and produce children to access resources. Now women can access jobs and/or welfare, so they no longer need to be part of a family to survive.
@@pigeonhead6287 Here is the problem with your theory: We are being taken over by an outside power as-is. These people are not us. Importing foreign people who are not us will result in a country not us. Not British. I can tell by the air quotes on the word indigenous you have contempt for us, though. Good job. Also, none of these people being brought in are what you call competitive. They are third world people who cannot build functioning countries and generations on bring their dysfunction with them, which is tied to their evolved biology.
The idea that voting in someone gives them a mandate to do whatever it is they want is ludicrous. You don't get to exterminate the people who voted you in just because they voted you in with hopes you'd do something in their actual interest.
Would our fertility rates be this low if we didn't have this massive burden of third world people that have to be supported with redistributed wealth from us to them? Probably not.
My points stand. Given what has occurred over the last century, how can the current trend be reversed? Who is there to vote for?
@@pigeonhead6287 There's no one to vote for and nothing to do but metapolitics towards delegitimizing the system doing this. It's already underway.
Interesting conversation, but this question of atheism keeps appearing. If there is no Creator, there is no purpose, and no meaning. We are just very complex, accidental machines. We can make judgements about what is good, or what is coarse, but at the back of it we know it is just a construction to trick our brains and keep us happy. But if we discover values which somehow go beyond ourselves, then we have admitted there is some kind of universal truth.
Frank Szanto. Oh! for goodness sake. Some of the most intelligent people in the past are scientist and they have never believed.
The problem with scientists, is they will only accept what they can see or prove physically. The word faith is foreign to them with regards to anything.
Ive never seen or touched 50 billion quid nor met anyone who has, yet im sure it exists.
Scientist dont understand nor can they explain how and why we have the consciousness that we do or for what reason... yet it exists.
Im not a full on believer but do believe something bigger than us is available to each of us if we werent all so self absorbed.
Dr Jordon Peterson articulates this brilliantly on many youtube videos.
@@iap-ug3oy ALL the early great scientists were believers and MOST were even monks!
Does anyone remember the election campaign back in 1997, Tony Blair was portrayed as a devil with red eyes by the conservatives. How prophetic. Stout oak and a strong rope.
Yes it was a great description
what i think is a shame is that there is a whole strata of older people , usually i suspect the less financially stable ones like wot i am, who are just waiting for death...we've been made to fear everything by the government and tv, we have become steadily poorer over the last 20 years, and the high street is a shitty conglomerate of languages , beggers and kids with knives. I hear so many people saying 'i cant wait to go and leave this shitty place behind'
Thanks Theodore at least BREXIT gives us a window of hope! As a proud British woman I am a total supporter of our origins of culture. Just ask Jeremy Corbyn one question, "Do you love this country?" I am 99% sure of his answer would be negative. Now is the hour to save our culture and take pride in doing so.
A fabulous discussion ..Such sense spoken at last *
It’s true....lived in America the kids gave you respect....yes ma’am...yes Sir.....here in the UK in public the cursing.....no manners....
The lack of certain chemicals on the brain only explains bad behaviour not good , fascinating.
Very good interview. I enjoy many of the interviews "So What You're Saying Is" and this is one of the best. Thank you!
I went to Rome a few years ago. There was a game of soccer between Scotland and Italy, which the Italians won, by the way. The streets of Rome were spotted with the vomit of too-drunk Scotsmen who could not hold their liquor. It was revolting. So I can confirm that what Dalrymple observes about British behaviour abroad is true. I would not have believed it unless I had seen it, and smelled it. All this was thought completely normal by the Scotch with whom I spoke. Dalrymple is one of my heroes for his insistence on truth.
Another great chat. I have a tattoo on my forearm with the name of my wife who died early in 2018. I did it not to be part of a tribe but so she would always be with me. I know its silly but it means a lot to me.
Stuff like that actually mean something though, nothing wrong with that one.
Culture is an agreement amongst everyone.
What an impressive and fascinating man
Encountered Mr Dalrymple about a dozen years ago when I still identified as a liberal and the political and philosophical and cultural contradictions and absurdities that have since come to light and forced me to become an independent were merely a vague intuition, a gut feeling. Bravo for having him on
This is a great insight into whats going on here now in 2019 Britain. Well said
Seems like a very nice Gentleman. Thanks.
Great interview, I enjoy reading Dalrymple's books very much.
I absolutely adore this man ❤️❤️❤️
Edit: I'm not even British, I'm Greek 🇬🇷
I have found Christians to be the most content.
I feel the same about torn jeans, it's a status symbol apparently, to dress poor when you're wealthy, but not so much if you actually are poor...
The other day I saw a very chubby girl in ripped jeans, rips every few inches down the length of the leg....reminded me of a joint of brisket tied up with string......
Brilliant author! Great guest
Great series. That was a real interesting conversation.
When i was growing up there were clothes for each age group, a 50 year old didn't dress like a 20 year old, but now there is no choice, they just don't make clothes for those who want to dress for their age.
In England at least, diversity, 'always vibrant diversity', multiculturalism, egalitarianism, (leveling) and more, were for other people to live with, never those proposing them.
The comments about perpetual adolescence is spot-on. If one looked at pictures from the past (before the 1960s), one saw young people trying to dress like their elders, since there was the recognition that growing up and assuming adult responsibilities was inevitable, if not desirable.
another excellent guest, urbane, witty and highly respected.
I love a good grump but there's a fine line between grumpiness and snobbery.
So pleased to see my favourite writer on NCF. He's one of our best contemporary right wing thinkers and social commentators and I hope to see more of him on similar shows but especially on mainstream television!
Saw the Lawrence Fox interview, just brilliant! New sub. As an ex Pat I'm glad people are fighting back again the "woke" culture and disappearance of Great Britain.
Thank you NCF for another rexcellent edition. Especially pleased to see Anthony Daniels (or Theodore Dalrymple) whose work really deserves a greater audience than it seemingly has.
He voted for Brexit? No. REALLY? 🤦♂️
The only obstacle to culture is human being's aggressive and violent need for independence, a self destructive propensity to pigeon hole other human beings into stereotypes and an innate hatred of anything that does not fit in with their ideal of how the world *should* be.
People who bang on constantly about culture forget one thing which is that their neighbour is essentially exactly like them, with the same problems, fears and worries, just different values.
Culture clashes are what the media and politicians utilise to divide a country so they can simplify their work.
Society has not *broken down because of multiculturalism* , but as a result of *people's lack of solidarity, their totally envious and resentful attitudes towards each other and an absolute lack of human compassion for those who are less fortunate than themselves* .
It's not just British culture that's being slaughtered, its whole of the western cultures
The sad thing is its already to late for the British to fight for their culture its already finished and going through its death throws the time for fighting has long past.
As mentioned above the success, prosperity and influence of the west in general and Britain in particular was its Christian culture. Our legal system, education, health and welfare were all strongly grounded on Judeo Christian principles. Ts no wonder the country is failing. I'm convinced the work of political correctness is to completely eradicate this foundation. Modern Conservatism is committed to that end, my own MP Chris Heaton Harris instructing me to write to him after he found my views upholding traditional marriage as 'outdated and offensive'.