RJ Corman Dropping New Welded Rail Train to Rebuild the Worcester Main! [7-31-22]
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2023
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CSXT 3010 (ES44AH) Nathan K5HL
CSXT 3108 (ES44AH)
Locations:
South Meadow Rd. - Clinton, MA
Newell Hill Rd. - Sterling, MA
Route 12 Bridge - Sterling, MA
Prescott St. - West Boylston, MA
Wachusett Reservoir - West Boylston, MA
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Honestly the tracks looked in better condition than I was expecting.. still good to see CSX investing for the future
Once on the Norfolk & Western at Tripp WV a piece of ribbon rail that was laid in the middle of the track to replace the high side of a curve came out snaking back at us! That was a quarter mile piece that almost took a guys legs off he jumped up over the rail at the last second.I will remember that day the rest of my life because my eldest son was born 43 years ago this July.
I can believe that; you put that sharp a curve in a piece of steel that thick, it's got a heck of a lot of energy trapped inside it, and Heaven help you if it's suddenly released.
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Long long rails makes a smooth ride. Amazed to see hiw they transport them
That was Fabulous ! I love when you use the real sound of that day and time, and with no music. Much Respect 🚊🖖🤠
It's nice to see that they're rebuilding instead of removing
I got a good look at the Worcester main track today and this rail can't come in fast enough!
Cool rail train work . I was a rail train operator/supervisor for Union Pacific for decades . Some jobs are easy and some are very dangerous . To be truthful they should have had a tie gang and surfacing gang go through first and then lay the new rail . I've seen the new spikes , anchors , tie plates , cross ties , rail and then ballast unloaded like that . Then the rail gang be the first gang to lay the rail , talk about a mess , man it was a circus . Great video .
I was thinking the same thing when I started watching the video. Just my two cents from 20 years on the T&E side.
I'm glad you liked the video! From what I can gather they scrambled to get the rail down and in before the winter really hit. They didn't have ties or a tie crew ready, so rail went in first. Along the line there was miscommunication, so they installed the rail, dropped new ballast, and then surfaced it. As soon as they finished surfacing the whole line they sent a ballast cleaner to come and shoot out all the ballast that was too small, which was almost all of it. So then they had to drop even more and surface it again. Not to mention there is a tie job lined up for when the winter ends, which will only mess up the ballast once again! This is what happens when a Jacksonville company tries to manage a service job from across the country!
@@IsaiahsTrains Can't stand contractors , they cut corners and don't care about SAFETY . They are also taking jobs away from railroad employees , the unions haven't fought for employees rights to their jobs .
Question, is the left rail right rail made different? I heard a video on you tube that the left rail tilts inward and the right rail tilts inward. That help's center the cars aka wheels. I know the wheels are not flat but slant toward the flange.
@@Ottos_ScLm_Race_videos_2009_on All of the rail is rolled at the mill is rolled the same way . The rail is rolled at a fast speed and is cut mostly in 80 foot pieces and delivered to the welding plants . UP has partnered with a company from Japan and their rail is cut in 400 ft. lengths , loaded on one of their partnered ships and delivered to the welding plant in California . The strings are welded into 1600 ft. strings . The partnership has two ships , one loaded ship is in route while the other ship is being unloaded at the welding plant . There is a video on RUclips about the welding plant and explains the partnership .
Always wondered how they got the welded rail off the racks that's neat how they do it
Great video ! and just a mention of the greenery fantastic.
They just did this out my way last year. I've got a few videos on it. Clinton Ma
Thank you for sharing this. It's the 1st time I've saw how the rails are removed.
You're welcome!
Very cool. I’ve always wondered how they handled highway grade crossings. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Excellent video, thanks for sharing...!
Thanks for watching!
Video of old rail being loaded . Video titled ( UP Renewal Train : Old rail is loaded onto rail train ) . This is a good video of loading rail by using the locomotives to pull the rail train , I wasn't working that rail train but we also used the two 6-71 Detroit engines power to drag the rail and shove the rail on the trains when needed . The power cars were powerful enough to pull both strings of rail and the longest rail I pulled was 2100 feet long . The longest stretch of continuous welded rail without any joints was up in Illinois and it was 11 miles long . Usually there's insulated joints or something where there would be a separation in the rail . It took two rail trains to finally get that 11 mile stretch of rail loaded and I rode the rail trains I loaded to our welding plant in Laramie , Wyoming to be classified and rewelded and unloaded where it was needed . When we would pickup rail during an abandonment of a railroad we would place a sled under the rails and hook the sled to the rear most power car and have the train pull ahead . This process would lift the rail off the ties and we would stop when we got to the 1440 foot location and reconnect the rail and start shoving the rail on the train again and at the same time move the train ahead . Contractors would work behind us picking up the ties and other track material left behind . Never enjoyed doing an abandonment as that was history of what was once a great railroad being left only in memories and pictures .
Those both must have been really interesting operations to work on. Thanks for sharing your experience!
That main was pretty run down and definitely ready for rebuilding. Also nice to see the rail have USA on them...assuming that's made in USA and not destined for USA...
A lot is made In Pueblo Colorado, some southern Chicago. It’s all USA.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Always nice to see railways being built and repaired anywhere in the world. so many videos show railways in decline, or last week of operation! This one looks as if it has been out of use for some time and is obviously getting serious major investment. Nice video and best wishes from the UK.
It is getting quite the investment. Thanks for watching!
Very nice video! You can tell by just looking at the current track at 9:00 it has been well-needed for quite some time now.
Thank you very much!
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice catch man and great footage!!
Thanks Rob!
Good video
Great video...
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Fascinating! Am always curious as how others do their jobs to keep out society moving. I do look at rails to see when they were made just for fun. Saw a rail from CP 1943 a couple years ago.
Nice shots man, track work has always been interesting!
Thanks! It was a really cool process to watch
Very cool
Thank you!
New Subscriber: I enjoyed the video. I enjoy seeing improvements made to the USA rail infrastructure. Greetings from Hobe Sound, Florida. Thanks for being there and sharing. 🚂🚃🚃🏝
Thank you very much!
1st thoughts...
ANNOYING crossing bells 😱😢
Neat laying of track...
Thanks for posting !!!
nice one
Thanks!
I have never seen some many people doing so little!
Very cool and impressive. Though not trying to in any way compare, I might try to kitbash 1 or more of my Lionel flat cars and some old unused tubular track to make cars like that.
Never saw more men do less work! I want to "work" for the railroad.
It looked like about 10 guys doing what?
Don't discount it... in the video they were waiting for the train crew to get the rail down but once they got going everyone had a job and they work FAST
Great video. I always wondered how they went about laying that rail. Now I know. I think CSX needs to invest in a lawn mower and I think they could lay the rail quicker at Notch 8 (lol).
That 3010 used to be the Gainsevile sticker unit
Really! I didn't know that.
@@IsaiahsTrains at 4:21 you can see where the sticker used to be, wonder why they took it off?
Seven rail cars long... holy cow.
1/4 mile rail
I would very much like to see how those rails are loaded on the rail cars.
Me too! That's a process I've never seen.
That looks like a cool train to work on.. it would have been interesting to see what happens at the end of a piece of track how they join it or what they do to start a new run.
Once they get to the end of a section they stop and bolt it together with a new section. Then when they install the rail they come back and weld the two together to remove the joint.
Nice Video neat to see a line rebuild......Sad it was restoration of a trackage Spur that been put back in service, for a new Customers. 😀
You can't imagine how damn hard these are to rerail when loaded and they derail. That rail puts so much pressure on everything.
I can imagine. That seems like it would be a nightmare
@@IsaiahsTrains I was thinking the same thing as they guide straight rail through curves. The long rail must be flexible enough to end through them.
More place names on the RR:
South Meadow Rd is Sheehan's
Newell Hill Rd is Belknap Crossing
Rte 12 Bridge is Sterling Jct and also Loring (fmr street car track thru there)
The 2 bridges at the res are Harris Arch to the north and Quinepoxet Bridge to the south
Thanks for sharing! I've never heard these before. Always love learning more about this line.
I’m surprised they didn’t have a fire extinguisher!
I live in Athol ma. They just went through and did all new ties, wonder if they'll put new rail in next
That would be great!
very cool stuff did the railroad crew members talk to you?
You can see that older rail, yep. will good to have new rail there for sure. I assume it is 132#?
I believe so!
I wonder why they didn’t use the horn on the rear when going over that grade crossing?
I was hoping they would too haha it had a cool horn
Nice video, dropping cwr is a complicated process when you have grade crossings.
It was really cool to watch, but you're right - every grade crossing they had to stop for half an hour to an hour to drop extra rail and cut the strand they were on.
@@IsaiahsTrains The rail can either be cut for the crossings , extra rail piece cut for the crossing or a backhoe can dig out the crossing and the rail can be unloaded and continue unloading . Depends on what the roadmaster decides what is best for the crossing .
Enjoyed watching how they transport and lay new rail. Would like to see how they get the rail on these trains.
@@mathewrufrano7833 The way they have the welding process setup is the rail is staged on racks and the rail is transferred via a chain type table . The chains roll the rail in the line feeding the rail to the welder . Rail goes through the welder and continues through to the grinding stations and continues on rollers and onto the rail trains . When a full string is in position a worker helps guide the rail to the next position on the rail train . When the train is full or has the number of rails needed they position another rail train and continue the process . Partial loads of head hardened curve rail might be 20 or 30 rails and thats all that is loaded on a train . I've had been rail trains with only curve rail and would unload certain lengths of rail in exact locations on 10 or 15 different subdivisions and it would take as much as 3 weeks and a lot of riding to go to all of the locations on the different subdivisions . Unloading curve rail can be a real problem as the roadmasters always wants a little bit more rail unloaded than what is supposed to be unloaded . Usually resulting in the last location not getting any rail as there isn't any rail left on the train . I had a Superintendant want to fire me for not having rail for a curve . My boss kept me off that officials territory for six months to prevent me from getting fired . Some officials remember stuff like that and if they get a chance they will find some reason to get even . Us rail train guys were always under watch by certain officials just because we were doing our jobs but we could get into some sticky situations and piss someone off . It was difficult trying to keep everyone happy all the time .
@@mathewrufrano7833 I'm going to add the process of loading the old rail when it's been replaced in a comment to the original post for all to see . .
Blue Smoke means bad Pistonrings ore Valvesealings ☝️
Holly crap !! That looks extremely dangerous like a Huge spring with so much hidden built up tension pressure to suddenly break loose & whip everyone off !! I never thought rail was laid in such Long lengths & that Fast !! ....How can this be safe ??
It's all 136lbs/ft so it would take a minor miracle for that much weight to move on its own.
Web Search ' UP: Long rail is a game changer . ' It'll correct a couple of my mistakes .
One of the coolest videos I've seen in a while. I've seen plenty of these trains, first time I've seen the whole process.
This looks like an abandoned or embargoed line, is it being restored to use? What railroad owned this previously?
This was owned by the state of Massachusetts and Pan Am Railways. CSX recently purchased Pan Am and is restoring this line in hopes of heavy traffic up to Maine and Canada. I'm glad you enjoyed!
This line was operational, 10mph authorized speed.
RUclips ; Railway track laying machine renewing a high-speed railway line . Very interesting .
Sweeeeet
I worked at the Rail Mill in Steelton Pa.
Howdy sir , I never got to get a tour of the CF&I steel mill in Pueblo , Colorado when I was out there to ride a freshly welded load of rail while CF&I was rolling rail . Question is how long were the rails being rolled , I've heard different stories and I can imagine different plants rolled different lengths . CF&I cut their rail in 80 ft. pieces and loaded them on rail cars and they were moved to the welding plant at the end of their property . We had welding plants here in North Little Rock , Arkansas , Dennison , Texas , Pueblo , Colorado and Laramie , Wyoming . Pueblo is supposed to still be in operation to the best of my knowledge . UP built a new welding plant in the San Francisco bay area and UP partnered a Japanese rail steel mill that cuts their rail in 400 ft. lengths and ships the rail on two new ships built just for the rail . I've seen a video of the California welding facility and I believe they weld 1600 ft. strings of rail .
@@25vrd48 We rolled 84 ft. rail. They are still rolling rail at Steelton. I'm retired now. Steelton rolls a lot of specialty rail like 175 Crane Rail 171 crane rail. 141 Re I think CSX uses that 100 RB for the New York Subway Forgot to mention the Crane rail is used for the big dock cranes. They roll some other brands also. There is a weld plant near the rail mill that welds the string rail . That's in Steelton Pa. Also. We did roll some rail for Union Pacific if the needed some quickly that was awhile back I don't know if Steelton does or not anymore. I work taking samples the hot saw would cut me a 6 or 8 inch piece than that would go in a timed spray water cooling chamber Then brought into the floor man shanty to be micked for quality.
@@BeeLineEast Thank you sir . I added a web search of the UP Fort Stockton , California welding plant and the rail they get from Japan is 480 ft. rail . The railway track laying UP video is really cool too .
@@25vrd48Making rai is very costly especially now days. Steelton put a huge reheat furnace in a few years ago. They are natural gas furnaces and Steelmaking has all Electric Furnaces.and a continuous caster. Steel is poured into 175 ton lades the the ladel is taken to the top floor of the caster and slowly poured down shafts by gravity the when they reach the bottom the are cut in half with stationary burning torches to 15 ft then go to the reheat furnace to maintain a,temperature of around 2000 degrees Till they are ready to be rolled. That's just a fraction of the process.
@@25vrd48 Ok I see there rail is already longer. Cleveland Cliffs who owns the mill in Steelton now proposed on making a new rolling mill there. But I'm not sure when it will be.
How many miles of rail will a CWR Train hold if all racks are full of rail?
6 3/4 miles of rail when unloading ' out of face ' in other words both sides of rail unloaded together time and at the same location or locations depending how much rail is designated to be unloaded .
There is still more miles of rail left on that rail train.
How do they go around corners?
the rail bends, just like it's bending to come off the racks onto the ground.
Just how long are those rails?
1/4 mile sections I believe
where are loud noises?
Wish they would do that ta abandoned railroad n have passenger rail service back on them again n refurbish the train stations along the rails instead of haven them abandoned n or ripped up n have it get developed on or turned in to a walking n bike path if they want a bike path n walking path they could make one alongside the rails a safe distance from the rails A know no one will believe me or tell me that A don't know what am talking about or don't know anything but if they bring back passenger rail service again it will help ease the traffic on the roads
How do car go on curve are rail that flexible?
Thank you very interesting.
They follow the same curve that the rails themselves will be installed on, so yup.
You would be surprised at how flexible the rail really is , especially on Hot days . I've had it flex so much that I thought it was about to snap into .
Kinda reminds me of Con Ed in NYC … 6 guys watching 1 guy work .
@@herbward5240 They all have a job. Those guys in the middle are looking for any problems that may happen midway with the feeding of the rail.
Why is this line being reopened?
It has remained open, but it has been slowly falling apart for a while due to lack of maintenance/money/reason to give it TLC. CSX recently purchased the line and intends on moving high volumes of traffic over it in the next decade, which is why it is getting a massive overhaul.
@@IsaiahsTrains good info
Wasn't) opps sorry for my last Comment...We met to say "IT SAD THEY WASN'T PUTTING A OLD LINE BACK IN SERVICE AGAIN 😢....SORRY IF YOU TOOK IT AS A MEAN COMMENT....WE DIDNT MEAN TOO SO SORRY 😢😕😞
Any planes for double track
Not at the moment, but I wouldnt be surprised if that's the case within the next ten years. All the infrastructure (for the most part) can accomodate double track as the line used to be double track back in its prime.
they need a lawn mower & some weed killer hehehe
why is this being rebuilt?
how long has it been OOS?
The line remained in service. The former owner PanAm railway spent very little money on maintenance. Many of their trains couldn’t do much over 5mph due to track conditions on their system. CSX is fulfilling their promise to rebuild it in order to improve service and reliability.
It looked like CSX not RJ Corman and they only dropped half the rail. 🤭🤔
Corman doesnt own rail train sets. They hired csx to bring it over to them and their track guys assisted in laying it. CSX crew and MoW guys on the cars, RJ corman on the ground.
90#?
100#?
136lb is being laid.
It’s cool you Americans are against smoking but your trains still do…
I know this piece of crappy track. I live in Massachusetts.
The roads are even worse 😂
Myself I wouldn't film guys working. Some find it irritating and distracting.
An excellent video! Looking forward to seeing more.
Mass. needs to get their prison work gangs out to clear the railroad easements.
Or we could just run a weed sprayer train like CSX plans to do...
Yea, right. In Massachusetts that would be considered abuse.
@@josephkearney9319 Times certainly have changed. I remember seeing prison work gangs in E. TX along the old SPRR (now UP) doing weed eradication type work in the hot Texas summers, mid 80s. . Straight out of Cool Hand Luke. With a Guard on horseback. Nice video BTW to Isaiahs Trains.
They definitely won't be running a weed sprayer there as the tracks go through the reservoir which houses the public drinking supply
@IsaiahsTrains that's why there's herbicides types like glyphosate. We spray near reservoirs and bodies of water that supply drinking water all the time on the railroad, considering a large portion of railroad tracks run along creeks, rivers, reservoirs, etc.
@IsaiahsTrains >>> I find it _somewhat amazing_ those rails can bend as much as they do.
Steel rails are flexible, especially CWR or "ribbon rails". It's just like how a piece of HO flex track is more flexible, as opposed to something like say, a piece of 9" straight track. The 9" straight track have more rigid rails and don't bend that real easily. The same is true with the "real" railroads, when it comes to track.
@@joshbenton4080 >>> Rodger that...👍
If you watch a railway switch being operated, you'll see that even a (relatively) short length of track can bend a good four inches with no problem. I've been working on railways for over 40 years, and it still amazes me!
The steel is pretty soft actually not like most would think.
@@jackx4311 >>> Rodger that...👍