If I'm not mistaken, Yay joined this roster 2 weeks ago, it will take longer than that to build synergy and supplementing his duelist plays, getting the timing right etc. They will get there. He needs time, don't fret
I think yay was IGLing too, it's so hard to play duelist and at the same time lead a team, yay was able to perform so well last year because of fns, since he had a really good igl his priorities would be duels, but rn he is doing the two jobs, gotta be exhausting
@@nguyt9039 I thought fns igl'd for a season, but I could be wrong. But I still agree with Leimar's sentiment. There's a reason most igls aren't the duelist
@@nguyt9039 pretty sure despead of the inicial roles, once you're in the match the team will lead the person with most experience, yay in c9 wanted to igl and he has said a lot of times he likes to igl and put in practice all learnt with fns. I'm pretty sure he was doing that job, plus his first official match in a long time. I'm not excusing yays bad performance in these matches, they're facts and maybe he didn't kill that much but we can see he was doing a lot of calls. Clear only played aggressive characters, so it ended with him being killed a lot in the first round with smoker, or was scared because didn't have a way out. I think with time we could see a lot of good plays from this team.
@@chocoishim People watch the video cause they can't watch the stream or just want a quick highlight video of the match. Even I watch the video cause I couldn't watch the stream and it sucks because we're spoiled by the thumbnail when we know nothing of the outcome of the match.
I think the issue is basically people don’t get comfortable on their role yet. Oxygen has been playing together as a team for much longer. DSG new roster has played for 1-2 weeks only (and you can see it in their play, doesn’t look like a team in a lot of scenarios yet). I’d give them some time to figure out their new roles. Either it be Yay on Jett, Steel as initiator, and Clear on smoke.
On the real tho, Yay was set-up to fail with the lack of coordination between him & the initiator. At this point you gotta start asking questions of the coach (partly the IGL) because they’ve been having problems setting up their duelist & initiator well since open qualifiers.
Really? 22:56 What is yay checking there on the dash? He literally sees steels dog checking right not to mention the smoke covering all of sight. He should be checking left, the only angle not covered. This is the basics. I understand you’re on a new team but come on, you’re supposed to be a veteran at this.
@@brianjc720 thats not his job, they spammed left side so he asummed that it's clear, his job is to make play on hall to clear it then play aggro which he did but they got unlucky cuz the guy was 13hp
@@ouo2u216 As a jett his job is literally to clear while dashing. Spamming does not clear an angle, it’s a rookie mistake to assume that a spammed angle is clear on such a large wall. Every high level jett flicks their mouse to both sides in these scenarios precisely to clear these angles on the minimap. For any top tier entry your job is 100% to clear angles and then push to create pressure if that’s the call. You say that that’s not his job as if he couldn’t have easily cleared it. A better jett that we see plenty of in tier 1 would have cleared that angle by quickly flicking it. Unfortunately it seems Yay is not up to par in that regard.
Bro i was skeptical about nerve because I didn't heard of him ever. But damn, he's doing good. Also DSG still looks like soloq. They obv need time together 2-3 weeks are not gonna cut it.
@@User-xw6kd I think Yay was trying to create space for his team, as a duelist is supposed to do by engaging with the enemy team. However, it is important to take into account that Yay's reaction time and consistency were not on point, which put the DSG team in trouble. Additionally, most of Yay's kills were on the defensive side, which is good but not what is expected from a duelist who should be winning engagements primarily on the offensive side.
What's wrong with YAY switching weapons/abilities on retake/clutch situations? On that note: Something is wrong with Steel being an initiator, not effective as an IGL
The amount the roles in this game matter is highly oversold by the community. The specific agent matters. Skye is definitely okay for IGLs because you have a lot of the utility you'd typically call for anyway, and you're also typically supplementing a push not leading it. Breach is mostly the same to be honest. He definitely gets a little too close to trying to open up sites himself and maybe that busies it up a little too much, but it's not like trying to IGL on Jett... or Raze... or even something like KJ.
@@jackknowles5295 no you Pepega Always have an IGL on smokes or Sentinel. Better view and sense on the map. They don't have to start the execution. They'll have better view and understanding on where and what every single play has control. All they need to do is either control a portion on the map and just create a call or Make sure the execution can come into fruition by controlling either the flank or a blindspot for duelist or initiator
@@JiN0034 and yet no one ever struggled to call in csgo as anything but an entry (and even then ANGE1 still does that) it's almost like you're making out IGLing in tac shooters to be harder than it actually is... the FNS effect everything you've arbitrarily decided was an IGL job is just... any players job provided that's the call
People don't understand that when there's such high expectations of you, your hands shakes. It's just like with Tenz, with everyone's eyes on you and expects you to be the best, the pressure can really kick in and cause you to not perform as well, cut Yay some slack.
Yay’s unfortunately a very 1 dimensional player. He excels in very specific circumstances but if he’s not comfortable he just won’t perform well at all.
It's not copium. Most people expect 1 team to do well 100% of the time. But if you like a team just because they win 100% of the time you don't really like the team as much as the feel of winning.
1 week practice is objectively not enough. You can clearly see that especially on Haven, they got read like a book. Even in pearl they always had the read. Top notch igl'ing on their part, but also shows that because dsg had so little time to practice, there were very few executions they could have made, so the read was easier. I'm sure they'll be back.
@@Liam-co1bw no, there much more to it. You have to make sure people don’t have problems with each other and that their schedules align perfectly along with a coach that has a similar mindset to the team and with you. You have to make sure your community knows the players so he has to as the players to market dsg while they stream as well. A lot of money goes into it, and the risk is much higher so nothing in it is easy, even the money contract is not at all “easy”.
i think what they should do is put clear on duelist or initiator and put yay on sentinel or initiator because as tarik said its better if yay entries second cuz you know he can actually finish the job than him being the entry cuz if he get killed first dsg cannot use the full potential of yay's insane aim
ik this is 6 months late but the reason he isnt doing good is because the igl on dsg is not setting up yay properly and also the support he got in optic was 20X better than this
@@synth1644 nah, NRG bought the optic lineup. Yay said he didn't join them because his buyout was double or triple times the other guys. But I think he lost the chance of being in the team that made him what he is just for money which he will eventually get anyways. Fns is the best igl in NA. Optic/NRG guys are the only ones that went par with teams like loud, drx again and again.
Recent match has nothing to do with team, yay missed a lot of op shots, died to literal vandals in long distance with n op, barely kill anyone with his ult by missing all the knives, couldn't win most of his duels as a duelist in attack and never checked the very basic angle mormally people checks and many more.. most probably he was nerbous playing after a long time in compi, so he will be there..
The shot calling for this match and pervious matches are horrendous! I'm thinking if this continue either they will drop steel or the coach. Surely they can scout somebody who's very hungry to lead and win.
The way Toast talks sound like how people do when they gambling, which is what he did on buying a team lol. They will just keep getting better as they play together, good luck!
GENUINE question: is it NA culture to just succeed right away as explained by all the constant immediate roster changes after a bad loss or is EU just incredibly silent? It seems like everywhere but NA all the teams have been together for way longer and stay together after shit performances
i get toast wants his team to win all the time but i think he’s being way too hard on them its their first game with a new roster and they’re playing with someone who hasnt scrimmed since getting dropped. he needs to cut them some slack
Ive never watched this guy but that is the most ottoman mustache ive ever seen. Yeah im just basing from the mustache but gun to my head im gonna go with turkish descent.
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100K likes on the video and I'll play one game on DSG
This wasn't on the wheel
ayo?
bet
that's impossible
you have to play anyways
Bro Tarik is just Toast’s therapist at this point
❤
Lmfao
and his curse
Fr
The opposite more like. Toast will need therapy cause of Tarik's curse
Tarik is more stressed than Toast, mans sticking up for DSG the whole time
dawg toast owns the team
@@fuckissey That's the point
fr
If I'm not mistaken, Yay joined this roster 2 weeks ago, it will take longer than that to build synergy and supplementing his duelist plays, getting the timing right etc. They will get there. He needs time, don't fret
He already found his form in the second map. Just a matter of time before the team gets comfortable around yay and vice versa.
Meanwhile marved performing way better
@@cool-ep5cu Marved is also a smokes player, you don't have to set him up as much just let him do his thing.
@@Gamer-lv5xi still marved didn't do so many rookie mistakes like yay and actually hit his shots
@@ateryy_9386 wait until you find out lan is different from online
This match broke my heart. Nerve and Gengsta played so well, was expecting so much from yay. Hope they come back stronger.
I think yay was IGLing too, it's so hard to play duelist and at the same time lead a team, yay was able to perform so well last year because of fns, since he had a really good igl his priorities would be duels, but rn he is doing the two jobs, gotta be exhausting
@@leimarocampo6997 steel is igl
@@nguyt9039 I thought fns igl'd for a season, but I could be wrong. But I still agree with Leimar's sentiment. There's a reason most igls aren't the duelist
@@leimarocampo6997 also prolly bcz its his first official in a long time
@@nguyt9039 pretty sure despead of the inicial roles, once you're in the match the team will lead the person with most experience, yay in c9 wanted to igl and he has said a lot of times he likes to igl and put in practice all learnt with fns. I'm pretty sure he was doing that job, plus his first official match in a long time. I'm not excusing yays bad performance in these matches, they're facts and maybe he didn't kill that much but we can see he was doing a lot of calls. Clear only played aggressive characters, so it ended with him being killed a lot in the first round with smoker, or was scared because didn't have a way out. I think with time we could see a lot of good plays from this team.
tarik is repping the team more than the literal owner lmao
i mean he hype up the team doing the bare minimum to be fair, like yay getting a kill with op then die
tarik mate you gotta suit up now they need you badly 😭😭😭
Thanks again for the spoilers editor, may your pillow never be cold on either side
Get ripped 😂
@@chocoishim People watch the video cause they can't watch the stream or just want a quick highlight video of the match. Even I watch the video cause I couldn't watch the stream and it sucks because we're spoiled by the thumbnail when we know nothing of the outcome of the match.
the hype on yay and tenz is too much bro and they're not even the best players the real best players is aspas and derke.
@@cassie.d7978 true
Id never wish that upon my worst enemies
Nerve performed well, unfortunate they couldn't get pearl. Hopeful they'll improve with time.
I think the issue is basically people don’t get comfortable on their role yet. Oxygen has been playing together as a team for much longer. DSG new roster has played for 1-2 weeks only (and you can see it in their play, doesn’t look like a team in a lot of scenarios yet). I’d give them some time to figure out their new roles. Either it be Yay on Jett, Steel as initiator, and Clear on smoke.
i kinda liked steel on smokes ngl
Bro yay cant aim, how can be he on duelist🙄
4:47 THE BEST QUOTE EVER.. "IT STARTS WITH ONE"
doesnt even matter
How hard you try
Keep that in mind
I love meming steel but god the man is 80 and still playing with 20 year olds. Honestly impressed
IN HIS 30s
@@adam-a-pa no he is 80
@@adam-a-pa he is 80 in gamer years
@@adam-a-pahe's literally 80
@@adam-a-pa he's 80
On the real tho, Yay was set-up to fail with the lack of coordination between him & the initiator. At this point you gotta start asking questions of the coach (partly the IGL) because they’ve been having problems setting up their duelist & initiator well since open qualifiers.
yeah fr. i think thats part of the reason to yays success on optic because of finnese's calls and the support from victor and crashies
This is a wake up call for the braindead folks who used to say "yay and friends."
Really? 22:56 What is yay checking there on the dash? He literally sees steels dog checking right not to mention the smoke covering all of sight. He should be checking left, the only angle not covered. This is the basics. I understand you’re on a new team but come on, you’re supposed to be a veteran at this.
@@brianjc720 thats not his job, they spammed left side so he asummed that it's clear, his job is to make play on hall to clear it then play aggro which he did but they got unlucky cuz the guy was 13hp
@@ouo2u216 As a jett his job is literally to clear while dashing. Spamming does not clear an angle, it’s a rookie mistake to assume that a spammed angle is clear on such a large wall. Every high level jett flicks their mouse to both sides in these scenarios precisely to clear these angles on the minimap. For any top tier entry your job is 100% to clear angles and then push to create pressure if that’s the call. You say that that’s not his job as if he couldn’t have easily cleared it. A better jett that we see plenty of in tier 1 would have cleared that angle by quickly flicking it. Unfortunately it seems Yay is not up to par in that regard.
Idk what's worse, yay's first performance in Challengers or the editor spoiling everything in the thumbnail
Yeah ngl I had to go Google the match for myself at first because I couldn't believe it
well not spoilers, its clickbait coz its literally not the amount of kills yay had, but yea yay did pretty bad first game
If u watch na challengers u would anyways know oxg are gonna win easily
Watch it live
Bro i was skeptical about nerve because I didn't heard of him ever. But damn, he's doing good. Also DSG still looks like soloq. They obv need time together 2-3 weeks are not gonna cut it.
THIS ^^
people were thinking we lost because yay didn’t pop off but we lost at 0:11
Tru lol
you can really see how good yay's support players are in optic
True. Yay is a great fucking player still and I still believe that he'll perform but he was a different beast under FNS and team.
Thats not fair how can anyone ever live up to this hype 😢
I love yay but something is really off. Why is yay running it down alone? Is that steel's calling?
@@User-xw6kd I think Yay was trying to create space for his team, as a duelist is supposed to do by engaging with the enemy team. However, it is important to take into account that Yay's reaction time and consistency were not on point, which put the DSG team in trouble. Additionally, most of Yay's kills were on the defensive side, which is good but not what is expected from a duelist who should be winning engagements primarily on the offensive side.
@@nikozecont1918chatgpt
@@User-xw6kd yay has not played scrims since he was dropped from c9, gotta give him some time
@@nikozecont1918 copiummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I laughed hard when Tarik and the caster screamed on 12:00.
What's wrong with YAY switching weapons/abilities on retake/clutch situations?
On that note: Something is wrong with Steel being an initiator, not effective as an IGL
The amount the roles in this game matter is highly oversold by the community. The specific agent matters.
Skye is definitely okay for IGLs because you have a lot of the utility you'd typically call for anyway, and you're also typically supplementing a push not leading it.
Breach is mostly the same to be honest. He definitely gets a little too close to trying to open up sites himself and maybe that busies it up a little too much, but it's not like trying to IGL on Jett... or Raze... or even something like KJ.
steel did his stuff but yay did not properly fit. They need time.
@@jackknowles5295 no you Pepega Always have an IGL on smokes or Sentinel.
Better view and sense on the map.
They don't have to start the execution.
They'll have better view and understanding on where and what every single play has control.
All they need to do is either control a portion on the map and just create a call or Make sure the execution can come into fruition by controlling either the flank or a blindspot for duelist or initiator
@@JiN0034 and yet no one ever struggled to call in csgo as anything but an entry (and even then ANGE1 still does that)
it's almost like you're making out IGLing in tac shooters to be harder than it actually is... the FNS effect
everything you've arbitrarily decided was an IGL job is just... any players job provided that's the call
People don't understand that when there's such high expectations of you, your hands shakes. It's just like with Tenz, with everyone's eyes on you and expects you to be the best, the pressure can really kick in and cause you to not perform as well, cut Yay some slack.
Hell no that's not it. I've been following him and Optic all year. The pressure never gets to them. They've played at the absolute top.
L diablo ran it down
Yay’s unfortunately a very 1 dimensional player. He excels in very specific circumstances but if he’s not comfortable he just won’t perform well at all.
@@User-xw6kd lmao that wrong knife maneuver was definitely nerve lol..
@@Neverrrrr311 Jesus Christ loves us all.
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good; his love endures forever.
1 Chronicles 16:34 NIV
Hard Copium but DSG is a new team with an immediate roster change. Only way now is UP. 🙏
It's not copium. Most people expect 1 team to do well 100% of the time. But if you like a team just because they win 100% of the time you don't really like the team as much as the feel of winning.
1 week practice is objectively not enough. You can clearly see that especially on Haven, they got read like a book. Even in pearl they always had the read.
Top notch igl'ing on their part, but also shows that because dsg had so little time to practice, there were very few executions they could have made, so the read was easier.
I'm sure they'll be back.
huge copium
Tarik has to be the best VCT commentator frfr 1:29
12:32 damn that early round clutch by yay with sheriff is underrated
creating a roster/team is easy but building some synergy and chemistry is the tricky part
Creating a roster is not easy.
@@phant0m_633 money cant buy synergy. its easy albeit expensive to get a roster. you just need money.
@@Liam-co1bw no, there much more to it. You have to make sure people don’t have problems with each other and that their schedules align perfectly along with a coach that has a similar mindset to the team and with you. You have to make sure your community knows the players so he has to as the players to market dsg while they stream as well. A lot of money goes into it, and the risk is much higher so nothing in it is easy, even the money contract is not at all “easy”.
im saying that its easy to get a roster but hard to make them mesh well.
never in my life would I expect the best player to play for one of my fav creator's team
i think what they should do is put clear on duelist or initiator and put yay on sentinel or initiator because as tarik said its better if yay entries second cuz you know he can actually finish the job than him being the entry cuz if he get killed first dsg cannot use the full potential of yay's insane aim
Frfr
ik this is 6 months late but the reason he isnt doing good is because the igl on dsg is not setting up yay properly and also the support he got in optic was 20X better than this
this just show how impactful OPTIC lineup is to yay's success they are the one that activates yay's full potential
Still remember what Hiko said, any other teams will just be bad for yay, and the remaining Optic lineup will be bad with anyone but yay.
@@peacepham7838 well why the hell did yay leave? Or did optic disband their valorant team?
@@synth1644 nah, NRG bought the optic lineup. Yay said he didn't join them because his buyout was double or triple times the other guys. But I think he lost the chance of being in the team that made him what he is just for money which he will eventually get anyways. Fns is the best igl in NA. Optic/NRG guys are the only ones that went par with teams like loud, drx again and again.
@@virajkishorech3272 yeah NRG almost won against LOUD 16-14 in Fracture in Brazil😢
Recent match has nothing to do with team, yay missed a lot of op shots, died to literal vandals in long distance with n op, barely kill anyone with his ult by missing all the knives, couldn't win most of his duels as a duelist in attack and never checked the very basic angle mormally people checks and many more.. most probably he was nerbous playing after a long time in compi, so he will be there..
i wanna hear the comms from yay when he got body blocked by steel lmao
me too
Someway, somehow DSG always gets ecoed. Every single time. Its actually hilarious
Toast telling tarik to stop when literally the first 2:30 i only hear toast being a huge jinxed lmfao😂😂
21:43 tarik literally describing toast
ain't no way these guys are going out of platnum with these fights
Why's knowing talking about tariks insane 1v5 knife only round 12 clutch at 12:34
At 0:53 Toast sounds like a Ghast shooting fire ball :))))))))
I have never been so excited for any valorant pro match..in fact I have never watched a complete valorant match
12:33 yay kinda popped off with the ace though
Got me
12:32 that play was actually nuts wft
yay was rusty he will come back i believe 🙏
yeah, he'll come back to being a free agent lmao
@@_0451_probably lol but I don't think he will at least until one other official match with dsg
Sheeesh not the yay we know
@@706truth burnout. just like tenz
@@706truth cuz chamber got nerfed so much
This is why you don’t let Tarik predict a 2-0 at the start 😅
Lil bro jinxed
It worked with mxm
HAHAHA TOO FUNNY DUO PLS WE NEED MORE OF THIS TARIK
5:05 is my favourite part of the video hahaha
Actually so quick give the editor a raise
And then an instant pay cut for the spoiler in the thumbnail
Yay just joined DSG 3 weeks ago, give them time to work on their synergy
yay is new in the roster, it's alright, need more time for him to feel at home while playing with his teammates.
yay fanboy, clown
Copium
copium
02:15 shld they both not be looking in the opposite directions. Cos Yay technically had the wider angle for lobby
LOL at 9:26 both of them :"NOououooouo"
9:20 authentic bronze experience
i love that tariks sub intro shows him
before money
I always miss the games live, how do people get notifications for it?
The shot calling for this match and pervious matches are horrendous! I'm thinking if this continue either they will drop steel or the coach. Surely they can scout somebody who's very hungry to lead and win.
who else remembers steel throwing? I got flash backs when he body blocked yay
Why is yay playing so much for stats at the moment
toast and tarik are just the greatest duo
so sad seeing how yay's prefomed recently went from gamer of the year to choking in tier 2
man its only gotten worse since
Tarik looking like Doc with that stache ngl 😂
Maybe it's just because yay is used to chamber and hard to play other agents at this pt
Coming on Tarek's stream is the death knell for someone's team
16:45 he def could've defused
People think Toast is not that stressed when he is rethinking his life desicions
When map 2 began, the energy just went crazy😂😂😂😂best streamer combo with Toast and Tar1k
The way Toast talks sound like how people do when they gambling, which is what he did on buying a team lol. They will just keep getting better as they play together, good luck!
omg i was so close to tarik's apartment when this was uploaded lol, the siren gave it away lol
2:14 why is killjoy not safe from jetts angle? Surely that's a bad comm or some misplay because that's something me and my friends do lol
tarik is 1 good friend 😂
the thumbnail is just disrespectful imo
yeah
Disrespectfully based af GIGACHAD editor
they now curse yay just like tenz that 2 against noobs content with tarik is a curse bro!!
It's to activate yays true power
Pretty accurate representation of how the game went
honestly watching that yay and tarik vs 5 noobs vid make sense now
Bro i swear people only look at negative things. They call a team trash or dogshit and just not think that the other team was playing insane .
tarik is so funny 💀💀💀
12:06 yay is not him today
i feel like the initiator just didnt set yay up as well as optic could which is why yay underperformed
yay defo needs to get rid of the rust. If he wants to get picked up by a tier 1 org again he will have to perform well.
why does tarik looks like a sheriff of valorant in another universe with that mustache, i love it though
6:37 this was the dagger
Did the editor use a thumbnail like this on the last video on accident or sum? Stg i seen the thumbnail / title hours before this was uploaded
The title getting me worries not gonna lie, i know tarik back it up lil bro to not give up on dgs franchise
12:32 What an ace from yay to saved the game
I won't fall for that
@@Glenn_Jacob i thought so too but i did it anyway
I literally couldn't stop laughing the whole time 😂😂😂
Toast doubts them in the deep and thats a mistake
Not even fair on yay’s part he wasn’t set up by the initator. Steel is 33 u need to get someone else
It kinda looked like yay was playing solo queue and just pushing in to lose quickly and on to the next
Am i the only one that gets reminded of like popularmmos when you do your “smash that shit rn”
what was this title card
This Was An Intense Game, Like Holy Dude
toast got a damaged product , but dont worry i think there is a 10 days replacement option.
Ngl I scrolled all the way to the end just to see if DSG won coz I want Toast and Tarik to be happy haha!
bro changed the thumbnail
GENUINE question: is it NA culture to just succeed right away as explained by all the constant immediate roster changes after a bad loss or is EU just incredibly silent? It seems like everywhere but NA all the teams have been together for way longer and stay together after shit performances
NA CULTURE
They expect instant results when they invest alot.
i get toast wants his team to win all the time but i think he’s being way too hard on them its their first game with a new roster and they’re playing with someone who hasnt scrimmed since getting dropped. he needs to cut them some slack
we all have friends like toast lol 💀
30:53 yay nasty snipe
Good thing tarik keep toast calm down Esports is not easy
Why did yay pull out his knife at 12:33? He already pulled out his Vandal but decided to pull out his knife last second
toast has the plat mindset its so funny to watch. 4 rounds down? insta lost.
Toast got so mad. 12:07
Ive never watched this guy but that is the most ottoman mustache ive ever seen. Yeah im just basing from the mustache but gun to my head im gonna go with turkish descent.
16:44 I still don't get why yay didn't just stick that.. Literally looks like hes throwing lmao
CLEAR IS A GOOD DUELIST PLAYER AND NOW THEY PUT HIM AS SMOKER. IN MY OPINION CLEAR AND YAY SHOULDVE SWITCHED AGENTS.
Why the thumbnail change?
Skye as a solo initiator on pearl kinda feels underwhelming if they're using her flashes solely for information and not to engage