Motostrelki '22: Russian Infantry Tactics & Structure

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    Sources:
    • "Purpose, organizational structure of a motorized rifle (tank) battalion, artillery battalion and their c*mbat capabilities in various types of c*mbat". Department of General Military Training (2017)
    • Shtat 05/060 :Motor Rifle Battalion (on MT-LBV-M)" (~2008)
    • "The Russian Way of War" by Lester Grau & Charles Bartles
    • "Code table of army ranks" by Yu.Veremeev
    • Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of November 10, 2007 N 1495 (as revised on 07/09/2020)
    • "Found a document revealing the c*mbat strength of the tactical group of the 36th separate motorized rifle brigade of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation." by InformNapalm
    "Medical support in the company" by O. AULOV
    Intro: (0:00)
    Battalion Organization: (0:32)
    Company Organization: (3:06)
    March Formation: (9:44)
    Attack: (11:13)
    Defense: (12:15)

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  • @BattleOrder
    @BattleOrder  3 года назад +380

    Here is a summary of changes that were alleged to have been made as part of the "New Look" reforms and some caveats:
    1. BMP Company HQs were reduced from 2 vehicles to 1 vehicle. Personnel remained the same except the removal of the spare Mechanic-Driver and Gunner-Operator. While the video shows 1 vehicle in the Company HQ in accordance with our most up-to-date sources, I would not be surprised if 2 vehicles was still a practice in some units to keep the HQ vehicles from getting too cramped.
    2. PKP/PKM general-purpose machine gun replaces the RPK-74 as the main squad automatic.
    3. Platoon HQs were reduced with the removal of the 2-man PKM team, Rifleman-Medic and Sniper/Marksman. The SVD marksman rifles were moved to the brigade and battalion level in sniper units. Introduced of squad-level PKP/PKMs likely made the platoon-level 7.62x54mmR systems redundant.
    4. Squad-level SVDs in BTR/MT-LB platoons were removed.
    5. Assistant machine gunner was added to the BMP platoon due to the new PKP GPMG.
    6. The Praporschik rank was briefly abolished around the period of 2008-2013, but was brought back.
    Some sources state that instead of being battalion-level, in BTR battalions ATGM teams are directly assigned to motor rifle companies. These are mostly pre-2008 sources, though. Also for some reason some newer sources neglect to mention a Deputy Company Commander, but I've seen evidence of this position still existing through Russian press releases and other means.

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 3 года назад +3

      Wish u make video about SOCOM in the future

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 3 года назад +3

      I wonder what the RPK-16 is for then. Maybe special units still find use for it, or just for export?

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 3 года назад +2

      @@blackore64 I heard that Russian Army demand belt-feed version based on RPK-16, thus Kalashnikov introduced RPL-20 recently, maybe RPL-20 will be adopted instead or both.

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 3 года назад +14

      @@pirotess2 Huh, so we've come full circle from RPD then?

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 3 года назад +12

      I heard some guy that claim there are still many Russian units still use RPK-74s as main squad automatic in Syria and in Middle and East Districts.

  • @user-le8wr4yz6q
    @user-le8wr4yz6q 3 года назад +1304

    Praporshchik - providing memes and anecdotes since the Empire times...

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 3 года назад +58

      Well, I also heard at least few anecdotes about chorążych and podporuczników (ensigns and 2nd lieutenants), most of them dating from time of mandatory military service

    • @MrBlueBurd0451
      @MrBlueBurd0451 3 года назад +27

      In the same way that 2nd LTs or other O-1s are memetically incompetent in NATO militaries?

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 3 года назад +38

      @@MrBlueBurd0451 from those anecdotes that I overheard, ensigns (especially those from reserve) were considered cocky (and in slang were called "peacocks" due to look of their rank) and useless (except paperwork, as they usually were just after university), but lieutenants - that was more of "because Major said so" while senior/staff sergeant was opposing doing what Major said (it usually was around "it will be useful" stuff that was not in official records)

    • @TheBuilderize
      @TheBuilderize 3 года назад +41

      @@user-le8wr4yz6q Sounds like Prapor from Tarkov alright.

    • @vaevictis2789
      @vaevictis2789 3 года назад +18

      @@Jfk2Mr yeah, and we have a tons of anecdotes about "porucik (porucznik in Russian) Rżewski"

  • @Killerpixel11
    @Killerpixel11 3 года назад +1731

    US: optics on every rifle should prove useful to increase combat effectiveness.
    Russia: Radar.

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 3 года назад +39

      Jon Blank yeah that’s not at all true but whatever

    • @phucprice6698
      @phucprice6698 3 года назад +135

      Jon Blank the American during vietnam war also has a Colt 4x optic on their M16 and was used by the SOG, putting optic on rifle is already being consider by everyone ever since the 40s since the metallurgy technology allow for creation of rigid, reliable optical sight for the common grunt. The German was the 1st to use the optic on their STG-44. It just now that we rich enough to put optic on every rifle. Also Radar intended for use as a group is never as beneficial for the individual soldier as having an ACOG on their weapon. To this day the Russian still far lack behind this aspect, and the amount of unit in russian armed force that was equipped with combat optic for their rifle is very limited, except the universal Platoon Marksman with their SVD ( although this also getting removed as this video imply )

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 3 года назад +12

      Jon Blank even though fluorine has a higher electro negativity, chlorine has the highest electron affinity due to its increased size decreasing electrostatic repulsion

    • @woodonfire7406
      @woodonfire7406 3 года назад +20

      I'd be cool if Russia keeps making more of those AK-12, AK-15 and AK-19 guns
      Oh, and modifying the AK-100 series to where it has rails and shit
      That's if they have the money to do so

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 3 года назад +70

      First of all, Russian military understands the effectiveness of infantry optics as well, although it gives them a lower priority compared to other, more pressing needs. Hence why, despite having capacity for optics on most of its service weapons (certainly RPGs & rifles and to lesser extent machineguns), only sniper rifles and RPGs are always issued with them, while with other firearms situation varies quite a bit.
      Secondly, the US Army was using radars in similar manner all way back during Vietnam war (AN/PPS-5), and there are modern systems of that nature too (AN/PPS-15). The difference here is more in exact execution and nuances of deployment, than in overall understanding of field radar usefulness.

  • @RockSpyPigeon
    @RockSpyPigeon 3 года назад +1340

    It's really interesting to see how geography shapes your doctrine; Russians have that emphasis on covering ground, which seems logical since their main battlespace would be flat plains.
    In comparison, in a swiss armoured battalion, we usually have a very narrow front and rely more on “changing echelon” (sending one company for a limited push, then the second continues the push, then the third and so on), which is logical since we essentially fight in a lot of natural chokepoints (mountains, hills, forested area).
    Great video!

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 3 года назад +26

      Yeah u have a lot of experience in fighting lol.

    • @RockSpyPigeon
      @RockSpyPigeon 3 года назад +141

      @@user-di5rm9ee1p Exercises still shape doctrine, my friend.
      But yeah, we luckily haven't fought for a while.

    • @norten76
      @norten76 3 года назад +94

      @@user-di5rm9ee1p You can lol all you want, but if you knew history, you would know that when the Swiss did fight, they generally kicked ass.

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 3 года назад +4

      @@RockSpyPigeon Experience in fighting shape doctrine and exercise just keeps you sharp nothing else.

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 3 года назад +14

      @@norten76 I loughed how he formulated sentence not at the fact they didnt fought for long time... And actualy I know enough about Swiss to respect they way of thinking towards defending their country. In my opinion it is inside their society some form of military state and I like that fact believe it or not.

  • @virhonestus8921
    @virhonestus8921 2 года назад +587

    Well this just got a lot more relevant today.

    • @ramirezad45
      @ramirezad45 2 года назад +60

      I love how this video literally described the current situation of the Russians. On how they don’t have enough properly trained and skilled solider, there’s not enough modern gear, and how conscripts make the bulk of the force

    • @TB-zf7we
      @TB-zf7we 2 года назад +29

      @@ramirezad45 Russian don't seem to have a night fighting ability. When they attached the Ukrainian Nuclear plant at Enerhodar, they were using large artillery flares but none of the captured soldiers or vehicles appear to have any vision gear (that I have seen) other than I assume heavy vehicle (tank) sights.

    • @matissruncis9247
      @matissruncis9247 2 года назад +24

      @@TB-zf7we I am going to guess that Ivan only has enough modern stuff to make it look good on tv.🤣

    • @ronniefarnsworth6465
      @ronniefarnsworth6465 2 года назад +14

      War Criminals and Paper Tigers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @satanicmicrochipv5656
      @satanicmicrochipv5656 2 года назад +2

      @@matissruncis9247
      You would be correct.
      It's all propaganda/advertising to attract foreign investors.
      They can't afford the "high tech" gear they imply they have.
      Their super cruise stealth fighter for example, only exists on paper.
      The one they've rolled out is a plywood mock up of what it would look like if it was ever made.

  • @potatosinnato1767
    @potatosinnato1767 3 года назад +483

    I love how you cover the actual battle tactics and how tanks and infantry and the other arms coordinate. Because most things ive read and watched only talk about the organizational side and not the actual tactics and coordination used. Thanks to you I have a better understanding of how combined arms works

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, talking about trenches is so up-to-date... have ever been any significant use of trenches in the last 75 years? Most warfare has happened in the cities/towns/villages, or mountainous terrain etc, what trenches? Especially given that with the level of artillery and aviation for many decades trenches would be just conveniently predug graves.

    • @veliest1886
      @veliest1886 3 года назад +28

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 lmao look at ukraine

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 3 года назад

      He did.

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 3 года назад +24

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Been in combat? Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan to name a few. When you get shot at, you dig in.

    • @the_corvid97
      @the_corvid97 3 года назад +13

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Iran-Iraq War was a massive case of trench warfare and that happened in the 80s.

  • @shardell
    @shardell 2 года назад +676

    Well, it looks like their tactics were ACTUALLY just to buy p90 and rush B

    • @melaninfarmer
      @melaninfarmer 2 года назад +9

      LOL

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 2 года назад +4

      Rush Kiev Blyat

    • @Myriip
      @Myriip 2 года назад +52

      Nah, their tactic was to prop up Ukraine military with new tanks, APCS, anti-air vehicles etc.

    • @maxiona714
      @maxiona714 Год назад +2

      Why the P90? Is it so much better for certain things?

    • @shardell
      @shardell Год назад +55

      @@maxiona714 It’s a CS:GO reference, a stereotype in that game is that Russian players choose to throw out all strategy and rush B site with a P90. The P90 in the game is good for moving and shooting and spraying.

  • @megaliidea1919
    @megaliidea1919 2 года назад +48

    Hmm I wonder why this is re appearing in my recommended on February 24, 2022

    • @thescottishanimeguy9946
      @thescottishanimeguy9946 2 года назад

      Beats me. Maybe cause its the day where all this build up proved worthless as the Treaty of Minsk is being signed rn, resolving all issues between Russia and Ukraine.

  • @hellhammerCCCP
    @hellhammerCCCP 3 года назад +632

    Thank you for this. Modern russian ground forces tactics are so undercovered in the western world.

    • @medes7894
      @medes7894 3 года назад +155

      @@azonezon3219 whaattt? 🤨 U serious? U must be brainwashed. There were only about 4,5 million killed in Red Army. And Wehrmacht was also much more crowded. Not 3,5 million Germans so.

    • @medes7894
      @medes7894 3 года назад +102

      @@azonezon3219 can u pls give me any source?

    • @royalrhode2461
      @royalrhode2461 3 года назад +120

      @@azonezon3219 what kind of nonsense are you spewing lol

    • @aararqaae6451
      @aararqaae6451 3 года назад +107

      AzoneZon 321 oh my, stop trolling and go watch TIK or something, being raise on cia-backed data from German memoirs is a joke in 2020

    • @DeeplyRegarded
      @DeeplyRegarded 3 года назад +136

      @@azonezon3219 lol no 25 million were total casualties including murdered civilians

  • @CAARaeed
    @CAARaeed 3 года назад +229

    This channel is a really cool little lockdown boredom discovery. Great, well-researched, well-presented content. Great job, keep it up! I am looking forward to more of your modern-era stuff.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +9

      Glad you like it!

    • @tierfuehrer2
      @tierfuehrer2 2 года назад

      I could not help it. I had to sub on the 1st vid.

  • @originalpastaman5470
    @originalpastaman5470 3 года назад +100

    One thing that I would critique about this video would be the "Meeting Engagement" being left out, with only attack and defend tactics being shown. The meeting engagement would be considered the most likely and most common form of maneuver and combat that the Russians would employ; as they envisioned future battlefields since the Cold war being largely that of maneuver of two apposing forces both on the attack against one another; with both defensive lines and contiguous frontlines of interlocking divisions side by side being a thing of the past.
    Understandably, this would be a difficult subject to pack into the video as that topic alone could constitute a whole video by itself, but would still love to see it. Apart from that, great video and information as always.

    • @dimmiheev2542
      @dimmiheev2542 3 года назад +7

      you're right. modern combat tactics are constant maneuvers.

    • @id_Usher
      @id_Usher 2 года назад

      What kind of stupidity? An attack is a counter fight.

  • @inhuman4
    @inhuman4 3 года назад +92

    The graphics in this video were excellent. I especially like the one showing units on the march.

  • @thecanadiankiwibirb4512
    @thecanadiankiwibirb4512 3 года назад +53

    4:30 dude on the left does not look like a soldier while the dude on the right looks so stereotypicaly “soldier”

    • @clouster75
      @clouster75 3 года назад +40

      Dude on the left is 18 yo conscript, and dude on the right is NCO instructor.

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin 3 года назад +2

      @@clouster75 right

  • @F1ghteR41
    @F1ghteR41 3 года назад +107

    6:05 Your assessment here is incorrect. This level of radar deployment goes back doctrinally all the way to the 1980's (when the US wasn't issuing that much in terms of optics as well) and is based around experiences in major exercises and Afghan war, which can be summed as: (1) low visibility conditions are encountered way too often and don't prevent enemy from offensive actions, & (2) radars are only useful when they're highly mobile, but then they give an edge to your troops. There were no portable thermal sights at that time, and even now having a radar is a welcome addition to it (see S. Korean K2 tank as a primary example). If anything, it's basically the same train of thought that brought AN/PPS-5 into US service way back during Vietnam war, and it's also true for more modern systems like AN/PPS-15.
    8:43 In theory he would carry a pistol, first APS, then PM. Since 1989 RPG gunners were given AKS-74U. In practice, though, they rearmed themselves much earlier in Afghanistan.

  • @nimajneb4156
    @nimajneb4156 2 года назад +5

    I've been doing a lot of research into military formations and tactics for a novel I've been writing, and your videos have been exceptionally helpful in understanding how military units operate and fight. Please keep the content up!

  • @alexernst9448
    @alexernst9448 2 года назад +14

    Suddenly painfully relevant. Pay attention boys and girls. This will be important later.

  • @richardkent7369
    @richardkent7369 Год назад +10

    I came to see the last 8 months of comments. They did not disapoint. 🤣

  • @kevinesam
    @kevinesam 3 года назад +64

    What a quality video! Way more in detail than our Armor school’s doctrine

  • @Cothonian2
    @Cothonian2 3 года назад +1

    These videos are straightforward and detailed, which is a really nice change of pace. Keep up the good work.

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 3 года назад +166

    At Leavenworth, we referred to Soviet formations as "motorized": MRC, MRB and MRR. We were envious of the Sovs organization because they rarely had to organize for combat, as the formations contained everything the commander needed. FYI, did you consider changing the name of your channel to "Order of Battle"?

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 года назад +1

      I think you'll find the ''MR'' in MRC (Coy, Bn, Regt) stands for ''Motor rifle''. In NATO speak: mech inf

    • @danporter1176
      @danporter1176 2 года назад +1

      @@simonh6371 are you sure? my understanding is that theirs a distinction. like mechanized has bradleys and such.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 2 года назад +4

      @@danporter1176 Nah. I'm just going by what we were taught late 80s in British Army studying WP Orbats, and specifically what was in Intelligence Corps publications like ''Threat'' magazine, and recognition guidebooks. Actually I was a battalion vehicle/aircraft recognition instructor for a time, as part of Bn Int Cell duties.
      Not sure what you mean by there being a distinction. Basically at Brigade level upwards (if my memory serves me right) there was only MR or armoured, if you discount airborne. In otherwords unlike NATO they had no light infantry.
      Anyways MR and mechanised is effectively the same, I'm guessing motor rifle is just a more direct translation from Russian. Where mech has Bradleys, or Warrior in Brit army, Sov MR had BMPs.

    • @danporter1176
      @danporter1176 2 года назад

      @@simonh6371 ah thanks for the reply, I meant that the way I had it my head, was that mechanized generally means there are alot of tracked vehicles like bradleys or warrior. Cant remember where I got that from tho, could be bs

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 2 года назад

      @@danporter1176 Mmm not sure about it being specifically limited to tracked vehicles like Bradleys or Warrior. Warrior was introduced in the 80s, prior to that as well as 432s (tracked APCs rather than MICVs) there were battalions with wheeled armoured personnel carriers like Saracen, which is an APC not a MICV, so an APC didn't have to be tracked per se. The term MICV also only came in late 80s as the doctrine changed from debussing and tabbing (tactical advance to battle) to debussing from Warriors virtually on top of the enemy. The Sovs/Warsaw Pact also mixed tracked and wheeled in motor rifle formations, not only using tracked BMPs but also BTR 60s & 80s.

  • @IITJII95
    @IITJII95 2 года назад +21

    Boy I wonder why this is popping up in my recommendations.

  • @gallivantingsprt
    @gallivantingsprt 2 года назад +6

    I took a motostrelki forces sergeant training back in the day. And I enjoyed this video. It gives a clear picture of the most common tactics and organisation of the motostrelki. Great content! 👍

  • @SantiFiore
    @SantiFiore 3 года назад +9

    I´m REALLY glad this appeared in my Home videolist, excellent work!

  • @Schwarzgardist
    @Schwarzgardist 3 года назад +18

    Thank you for researching and putting these information together in such an easily comprehensible way!

  • @themax9913
    @themax9913 3 года назад +83

    Motostrelki ‘80 are better than motostrelki ‘10 . Cause they cost less and can be spammed to annoy bluefor. And yes, it is a reference to the wargame series.
    Joke aside, very interesting channel i discovered just today, the video is clear and easy to understand which made me subscribe ! Great work ! Keep it up

    • @KenshiroPlayDotA
      @KenshiroPlayDotA 3 года назад +5

      Weak Motostrelki cannot into glory of M60 men riding in GLORIOUS DESIGN OF M113 !!!

    • @pepebeezon772
      @pepebeezon772 3 года назад +3

      Not really, motostrelki 75 is pretty bad because of the mt-lb

    • @pugsy7658
      @pugsy7658 3 года назад +5

      @@pepebeezon772 but BMP be like brrrrt

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 2 года назад

      @@pepebeezon772 Motostrelki 75 is a good replacement for the recon tab

    • @chiken6559
      @chiken6559 2 года назад

      both can be countered easily by Fallschirmjäger '90

  • @warlord95Sweden
    @warlord95Sweden 2 года назад +12

    where is these Tactics & Structure now?!

  • @justing.3541
    @justing.3541 3 года назад

    Thank you as always for listing your sources!

  • @RedboRF
    @RedboRF 3 года назад +1

    criminally underrated channel. thanks mate

  • @username100037
    @username100037 2 года назад +27

    Well that's the theory. In real life a BTG is usually deployed in a long convoy without any support and drives directly into the enemy to get destroyed really quickly.

    • @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930
      @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 2 года назад +9

      Imagine believing Ukrainian propaganda lmfao. Those long convoys are supply convoys but don’t let me stop you from making a fool of yourself

    • @username100037
      @username100037 2 года назад +1

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 To do ist like the Canadians: LOL!

    • @andies9817
      @andies9817 2 года назад

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 are supply conwoys equipped with tanks? those which were destroyed when they drive to cities in a row.

    • @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930
      @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 2 года назад

      @@andies9817 no but did I say that? The op is talking about the long 20 mile convoys and those were of supply trucks plus a few armoured vehicles to protect them. Those convoys were not of tanks

    • @andies9817
      @andies9817 2 года назад

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 he didnt speak anything about 20 mile conwoys, "BTG is usually deployed in a long convoy without any support and drives directly into the enemy to get destroyed really quickly."

  • @scottharbeck864
    @scottharbeck864 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for this information. I teach a class about this exact thing, with different sources. We seem to have very similar information, which is reassuring.

  • @joshreynolds72
    @joshreynolds72 3 года назад

    Exceptional video. Glad it showed up in my random feeds. New sub.

  • @andremesot5144
    @andremesot5144 Год назад +1

    You're website is just........................ Amazing !!! What a work !! Congrats & respect for your wonderful job !! No words...

  • @buckplug2423
    @buckplug2423 3 года назад +63

    Cool stuff. If we're on the topic - could you do a vid summarizing Russian map symbols? I've personally found that system to be quite interesting and a lot more traditional-esque than NATO's.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Год назад +1

      Z and V? Not so interesting as swastika

    • @user-pe8yi9uh7d
      @user-pe8yi9uh7d Месяц назад

      ​@@cbrefb3379 haha funny z and v we get it
      but what about actual symbols used on maps?

  • @reiyin17
    @reiyin17 3 года назад +8

    Great stuff. I've been looking for something just like this for a while now. Looking forward to you covering some VDV, Naval Infantry, or even Spetsnaz stuff.

    • @f.wallace8969
      @f.wallace8969 Год назад

      Spoiler alert* they all die.

    • @reiyin17
      @reiyin17 Год назад +1

      @@f.wallace8969 Oh, how much change a year can bring.

    • @f.wallace8969
      @f.wallace8969 Год назад +1

      @@reiyin17 lol, yeah. Noone factored in the wildcards.. gross incompetence and corruption.😂
      I thought they were better too...

  • @GMP-Official
    @GMP-Official 2 года назад +1

    Man, I love this...its all excellence, you are a master!

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 2 года назад

    Excellent work. Thanks for posting.

  • @thedoctrine1661
    @thedoctrine1661 3 года назад +13

    Thanks for this. There are already more than enough [insert nation] WWII Organization & Tactics and Cold War Org & tactics videos. There's very little in-depth content about modern foreign forces like UK, Canada, Russia, the Ukraine, China, Japan, South Korea, etc.

  • @samgraham2110
    @samgraham2110 3 года назад +39

    I wish I knew about your channel when I was still an Officer. I might have been able to create Tactical Decision Games with my squad leaders based on your content! Thank you again for citing your sources.

  • @HoZhiyang
    @HoZhiyang 3 года назад

    really enjoying this new content, please do make more!

  • @sharpsholdier
    @sharpsholdier 3 года назад +1

    excellent work, gentlemen...well done!

  • @baconman2.052
    @baconman2.052 3 года назад +18

    This is the channel I've been looking for

  • @strikingearth2947
    @strikingearth2947 Год назад +6

    What about the TikTok battalion, looting crews, or the Chechen spray and pray teams?

  • @masafelipe7033
    @masafelipe7033 3 года назад +1

    Great stuff, i love that subtle MoH soundtrack in background.

  • @spaceman9599
    @spaceman9599 Год назад

    Great video, love the clear visuals.

  • @IoachimSavianPopovici
    @IoachimSavianPopovici 3 года назад +12

    This was so interesting! I'm definitely going to use this in my Arma 3 scenarios

  • @peterprovenzano9039
    @peterprovenzano9039 3 года назад +27

    Thanks for the video on the post 2008 reorganization.
    I was wondering if you could get any info on a modern PLA battalion? I’ve searched a lot of places but it’s hard to find their TO&E. If you did a video on the PLA that would put me over on being a patron supporter .

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +6

      Might have to call your bluff!

    • @peterprovenzano9039
      @peterprovenzano9039 3 года назад +2

      I have not checked back at this video. You did an awesome job with the PLA video and I kept my word and became a patron supporter. Thanks. Keep up the awesome work. I find myself watching your videos over and over

  • @ChristwarriorUSA
    @ChristwarriorUSA 3 года назад

    Please make more like this. This is better quality than a real military briefing

  • @thomasglessner6067
    @thomasglessner6067 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the commentary.

  • @sovietchadster907
    @sovietchadster907 3 года назад +18

    Excellent video. Although there is one thing: Makarov pistols have almost completely been retired. The more fielded and used pistol is the MP443 Grach

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +9

      Soviet Chadster meh, there is a ton of photographic evidence of motor rifle units using the Makarov recently

    • @student8136
      @student8136 3 года назад +10

      Why would they be dropped? It's not a game-changer for military, pistol is there to symbolize the officers' status. Nobody will drop the good old PM until it runs out of the stocks. Modernized small arms are more valuable for internal forces, like FSB or National Guard.

    • @allianssd
      @allianssd 2 года назад +6

      @@student8136 there is a popular officer's joke, that Makarov is given to commit suicide in case of collapse.

    • @ns7023
      @ns7023 2 года назад +2

      @@allianssd Apparently they will be in high use now

    • @VolkovVelikan
      @VolkovVelikan День назад

      @@student8136funny thing is the opposite of what you say, special forces, law enforcement and national guard use the Makarov more than the conventional Russian army does these days.

  • @ispeaku759
    @ispeaku759 2 года назад +8

    When we were being trained as motostrelki, our commander used to tell us that in a modern warfare first you fight for about 20 minutes, then fights what remains of your body. You don't hope to survive, do you?

    • @Average-mi6ih
      @Average-mi6ih 2 года назад +1

      Well he was mistaken. Casualties on both sides are very low rn.

    • @brokenglass9814
      @brokenglass9814 2 года назад

      @@Average-mi6ih It's been what 5 days? The ukrainians have claimed in excess of 4000 DEAD russians. That's a lot of casualties.

    • @Average-mi6ih
      @Average-mi6ih 2 года назад

      @@brokenglass9814 the Russians have 200k there, at least half of them are involved right now.

  • @QasimAlKhuzaie
    @QasimAlKhuzaie 2 года назад +1

    I immediately subscribed after watching this video! Great job!!

  • @robertclark1669
    @robertclark1669 3 года назад

    Oh my God you have no idea how long I've been waiting.

  • @morokolli8700
    @morokolli8700 3 года назад +3

    Good document!!.. Greets from Finland!!🦅🇫🇮

  • @dallasblog6236
    @dallasblog6236 2 года назад +32

    It's funny, I learned more from you about the tactics of motorized riflemen than from my commanders.

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky 2 года назад +11

      That's fairly common from what I've gathered, and that's regardless of where you serve. Unless you go through NCO school or higher you might as well not know what's happening.
      Hell, I've seen a clip (and heard similar stories) from Afghanistan where some freshly deployed murican kids asked their Lt "why are we doing this and that and not all firing on them" during a low intensity firefight as if they slept on basic doctrine classes. Same shit happens in proving grounds over here but that's exactly where you're supposed to learn that ><
      Like some officers will just treat their soldiers like the crayon memes are a real thing that happens all the time.

  • @victorpascual1058
    @victorpascual1058 3 года назад

    Very nice! Keep the great content coming, please. If you don’t mind, I’ve a request: could you make similar videos about other contemporary militaries? A bundeswehr or french Armee de Terre’s infantry company/battalion organization would be lovely

  • @klubchez5224
    @klubchez5224 3 года назад

    Nice video! Watched during my lunch break

  • @savelievvsergey
    @savelievvsergey 3 года назад +6

    Quite accurate, although AKS74U is being currently phased out and replaced with standard AK-74 (or AK 100 series )

  • @myopicthunder
    @myopicthunder 3 года назад +14

    Love the way they are organized and self contained, everything they need is within reach.

    • @imrekalman9044
      @imrekalman9044 2 года назад +3

      Check out a video about Soviet Microdistricts (micro-rayon)! Blocks of flats for 10-25k people, with everything you need daily (shops, kindergarten, everything except work) is within 5 minute walk, everything you need on occasion (doctors, theatre, etc.) within 15 minute walk.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Год назад +2

      And wasting in 3-5 days

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder Год назад

      @@cbrefb3379 what

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Год назад +2

      @@myopicthunder are you blind? Russian BTG losing activity after 3-5 days of battle without supply.

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder Год назад +1

      @@cbrefb3379 is that what CNN told you xD

  • @Mike25654
    @Mike25654 3 года назад +2

    Great video, I love your style!
    Would be great if you could make similar videos of US Army Infantry, Stryker and Bradley Platoons and the different brigade combat teams.
    And maybe historic reason the organisational difference between the Army and USMC (Marine Corps has no Weapons Squad while Army has no Weapons Companies)
    Greetings from Austria!

  • @albmartinez314
    @albmartinez314 2 года назад

    Great Breakdown!
    Also, thanks for translating the terms! This is definitely helping me with my Russian!

  • @robertschultz6922
    @robertschultz6922 2 года назад +5

    For some reason they are not using the radios that are supposed to be issued by units. If they are taking civilians cell phones and are communicating with out encryption then something is not right. I can listen in to comms that are received via civil says and they are saying everything from what they had for Breakfast to where they are going. Can anyone comment on this

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, I can comment. “Hahaha”. That’s my comment. Most of the radios are probably broken with nobody able to fix them, and as for those that are still working, the batteries for them probably got sold off by some corrupt officer and now they’re all getting their arses shot off by Ukrainians.

    • @RandomGuy9
      @RandomGuy9 2 года назад

      I think they didn't have radios in large numbers.

  • @eshdizzle
    @eshdizzle 3 года назад +7

    Well done! I was especially interested in the Company level radar. Interesting bit of kit for the formation.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Год назад

      Russian propaganda fairy tales- in real army no one radars

  • @brandondavis7777
    @brandondavis7777 2 года назад

    These videos and graphs help me set up platoons, companies, etc in ArmA.

  • @CashSache
    @CashSache 3 года назад

    Always good stuff

  • @tommylawton6253
    @tommylawton6253 Год назад +12

    1 year later, this video is obsolete

  • @jwyliecullick8976
    @jwyliecullick8976 3 года назад +5

    Actual factual content and no sloganeering. Thank you.

  • @sovietnik6091
    @sovietnik6091 3 года назад

    What a great content!

  • @fullcody1
    @fullcody1 2 года назад +18

    tactics appear to be, stand in line and get droned

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 года назад

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @juch3
      @juch3 2 года назад

      @@yakivpopavich haha "rouble"

  • @TrangleC
    @TrangleC 2 года назад +43

    I guess we can see here were all those Russian tank losses in Ukraine come from. With the dismounted infantry 300 metres behind the tanks, they can't protect the tanks from anti tank weapons.
    They call this "Combined Arms", but it really isn't. Ultimately the different types of arms are only "combined" because they are on the battlefield at the same time, but they can't really effectively support each other this way. They just come in waves, first the tanks, then the infantry, which makes it relatively easy to take them on one by one.
    I know, I'll sound like a Wehraboo, but honestly, the Germans really do take the Combined Arms idea more seriously. Their mechanized infantry truly does fight right next to the tanks, in the same echelon, shoulder to shoulder, so to say. That is the reason why German tanks never used ERA, because the explosive armor would have posed too much of a hazard to their own infantry.
    It is also why German IFVs always had relatively puny weapons. (Mostly 20mm cannons and now 30mm, when everyone else is going for 40 or 50mm.) Their IFVs too are supposed to operate side by side and in between the tanks, so giving them bigger guns to defeat hard targets makes little sense and they rather concentrate on anti infantry armament to protect the tanks.
    I have said it many times, most armies nowadays, whether western or not, say they have a Combined Arms doctrine, but they don't really.
    Every time I say that, people accuse me of being full of shit, but information like in this video here proves what I am talking about.
    Combined Arms is when infantry protects the tanks and both tanks and infantry are supported by artillery. With the infantry 300 metres behind the tanks, it can't protect them, because that is already pretty much the effective firing range of infantry rifles.

    • @RandomGuy9
      @RandomGuy9 2 года назад

      I thought all other armies used their IFVs like we do.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC 2 года назад +11

      @@RandomGuy9 Depends on what you mean with "we".
      There are different doctrines, even within NATO.
      Most NATO countries, including the USA, use what is colloquially called the "Battle Taxi" doctrine.
      That means their APCs and IFVs transport the infantry near the battle, disembark them and then either take some sort of over-watch position, giving fire support from afar, or they just leave the infantry altogether and go doing "cavalry work", like flanking the enemy or hunting for targets of opportunity, while the disembarked infantry does its own thing.
      The Germans don't do that. Their IFVs are supposed to always work closely together and among the tanks and the infantry, sticking together and acting as one unit.

    • @kacper9853
      @kacper9853 Год назад +7

      300 meters? the effective firing range of infantry rifles? Are you insane? Even the lowest possible range for the average AK-74 puts it at 500 meters effective range, and you don't need to be that close to lay down suppressive fire, which is mostly how you prevent the type of infantry manned AT weaponry you're talking about from being used. The reason the doctrine didn't work in the early stage of the war wasn't because of an ineffective doctrine (god knows ukrainians aren't the first to fight the post reform russian army) but because they invaded with like, a third? of the ukrainian numbers, and spead out over a large front, they were vulnerable to ambushes and targeted strikes on their spread out logistics line. Most people say you're full of it, cause you are.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC Год назад +1

      @@kacper9853 You have obviously no idea what you are talking about. Just because somebody laying on his belly or sitting at a table with the rifle on a padded vice can hit something at 500 meters does not mean somebody stumbling over a corn field in full gear can do it.
      God, I'm so sick of people in RUclips comments blurting out cretinous nonsense.
      Now the Russians suddenly were the underdogs who invaded with a third of the Ukrainian numbers all of a sudden?
      When the invasion just started, you Russia fanboys were gloating over how superior the Russian force was, with all those charts and info graphics showing how they had 5 times as many tanks and troops as the Ukrainians.

    • @kacper9853
      @kacper9853 Год назад +6

      ​@@TrangleC ???? wtf are you on about "russian fanboy" russian fanboys deny that russia performed like sgit at the beginning of the war, just as they mega gloat that they're performing much better on the donbass front, even if they are only really performing up to the standard people were expecting from them at the beginning. also, the number of active russian soldiers was at 200k from the very start, I've heard literally 0 gloating from people that the russians had higher numbers, since a mobilized Ukraine instantly had the numbers advantage according to any reliable source. Those graphs you saw that said 5 times as many russians were either misinformation or someone trying to pump the numbers up for no reason. And ffs, the 500 meters range is taken as the very minimum estimate, the guy sittign on a pad perfectly still and confortable can hit further than that, something like 700 meters.
      Plus you ignore how you don't need to be at maximum effective range to scare off people trying to peek at you with a hail of gunfire, that's how suppression works.
      Nice one on doing literally nothing to defend your argument properly btw, instead saying I'm a "russian Fanboy", my roots are in Poland you diot

  • @PropperNaughtyGeezer
    @PropperNaughtyGeezer 2 года назад +6

    Mostly they park on the streetside out of fuel.

  • @tommyzDad
    @tommyzDad 3 года назад +65

    6:50: Now if game developers would build tactical games that had AI that actually dismounted and deployed like that!

    • @vercingetorix5708
      @vercingetorix5708 3 года назад +32

      Without instantly getting run over by the driver.

    • @BobbyB1928
      @BobbyB1928 3 года назад +9

      The Wargame series does a decent protrayal of mechanized infantry.

    • @Someone-lr6gu
      @Someone-lr6gu 2 года назад +3

      Check out Combat Mission Shock Force 2 or Combat Mission Black Sea. You'll probably like it.

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 2 года назад +2

      "Dismount tactics DLC $50"

    • @srmen1
      @srmen1 2 года назад +3

      @@janbo8331 the Russians clearly didn't fork out for that DLC!

  • @geraldhng8774
    @geraldhng8774 3 года назад +1

    Underrated channel.

  • @kerednilon4276
    @kerednilon4276 2 года назад +18

    Working out great...without missiles and rockets they are just rabble. Privates, led by lieutenants, yelled at by the occasional general who shows up to get droned into early retirement. Also radar won't help you when one tank in your column gets their lid popped and your whole platoon scrambles off the road into the woods like a gaggle of bleeting sheep.

  • @neilgriffiths6427
    @neilgriffiths6427 Год назад +7

    Think this vid might just comprise the entire training regime for those shiny new conscripts Ruzzia have mobilised.

  • @blacktoast_2158
    @blacktoast_2158 3 года назад +1

    10:40 Russia has a variety of artillery and can vary from unit to unit but it can be divided into 3 sections: Rocket artillery, Self-propelled artillery and towed artillery. Some examples are the BM series of MLRS, The 2S19 SPG, and a Msta-B gun

  • @AKKK1182
    @AKKK1182 2 года назад +16

    Sounded good on paper lol 🇺🇦

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 года назад

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 года назад

      Russia..a paper tiger

  • @southernknight9983
    @southernknight9983 2 года назад +7

    That was awesome info! I love learning about Russian doctrine and tactics.

    • @leef8433
      @leef8433 2 года назад +5

      Well you can see them in action now!

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 года назад

      As we see in Ukraine... It only theory... In reality the russian army is like a Group of incompetence uncoordinated chicken

  • @blbelt2001
    @blbelt2001 2 года назад +70

    It's honestly entertaining to watch this following the disastrous Russian Invasion of Ukraine

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 2 года назад +2

      Read history.
      The majority of Ukrainians east and south of the Dnieper are Ethnic Russians....They have been there since the 1780s under Catherine the Great.
      Watch Patrick Lancasters reports from the front.

    • @Bracket.
      @Bracket. 2 года назад +11

      same thoughts. Russian infantry is good for circus only. They are constantly dying otherwise

    • @novislavdajic983
      @novislavdajic983 2 года назад +2

      It would be disastrous if Ukraine became soviet republic once again.

    • @Bracket.
      @Bracket. 2 года назад +2

      @@novislavdajic983 freedom or death. So there is no way for russians to extend their prison.

    • @__Alex_
      @__Alex_ 2 года назад +6

      @@rpm1796 Read some history. Russia was under the Mongolian Empire before Russia even existed. Therefore, Russia is Mongolia. 🤣

  • @0EvilLemons0
    @0EvilLemons0 3 года назад

    Awesome video, the company level ground search radar really surprised me, could you do one of these videos on a USMC Battalion Landing Team?

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Год назад

      Now imagine how surprised the Russian soldiers were, who had never seen these radars in a real army?

  • @joetheperformer
    @joetheperformer 2 года назад +1

    That Medal of Honor soundtrack hits some nostalgic feels man.

  • @elcormoran1
    @elcormoran1 3 года назад +391

    A singleRussian motor rifle battalion is like a small country army

    • @brutus9195
      @brutus9195 2 года назад +43

      Capable of kicking the ass of anyone who climbs over the fence to them.

    • @jaqenhgar2264
      @jaqenhgar2264 2 года назад +12

      like Estonia

    • @leon19736
      @leon19736 2 года назад +22

      That is why Chechnya kicked their ass in 1995 and in 2000

    • @lape2002
      @lape2002 2 года назад +41

      @@leon19736 Russia kicked Chechnya's arse in 2000-2003 for GOOD! Now Chechens are part of Russian motor rifle companies lol

    • @leon19736
      @leon19736 2 года назад +14

      @@lape2002 After loosing 10 000-15000 soldiers against 1 million Chechen.
      But Russia never valued its soldiers lives, so technically your claim is correct.

  • @yashalava5729
    @yashalava5729 2 года назад +41

    Wow, I’m a Russian soldier, and this info is insane i was interested to watch.
    Nice work.

    • @rafchitakoff3483
      @rafchitakoff3483 2 года назад +3

      ПХАХАХАХАХА НАЙС НИК, военный

    • @rafchitakoff3483
      @rafchitakoff3483 2 года назад +1

      Позорище ВС РФ, хатьпф

    • @dylancrooks6548
      @dylancrooks6548 2 года назад +11

      bad time to be a Russian soldier now huh

    • @leef8433
      @leef8433 2 года назад +7

      Uhhhhh

    • @HatlessTea
      @HatlessTea 2 года назад +3

      RIP in peace

  • @thomas_jay
    @thomas_jay 3 года назад

    Very interesting. Thanks

  • @Kon_Chen_i
    @Kon_Chen_i 3 года назад

    Nice video. Also commonly position of platoon commander taken by senior leitenant. Officers get lieutenant rank after military school and commonly after year of duty they was promoted to senior lieutenant.

  • @Murmelmann
    @Murmelmann 2 года назад +40

    Would be interesting to compare it to what we see in Ukraine today.

    • @horizons3844
      @horizons3844 2 года назад +10

      many units failed to use their communications equipment and fought like they did in ww2.

    • @ekevanderzee9538
      @ekevanderzee9538 2 года назад

      Well, just like the video.
      Mostly, they never get beyond column formation.
      Basicay, this is not a responsive, fluid way of doing things, and their doctrine / culture goes agains individuall initiative. So when you get attached before your planned deployment, you're in trouble.

    • @jaroslavsvaha6065
      @jaroslavsvaha6065 2 года назад +2

      @@horizons3844 From what I've heard, since their shiny new military radio depends on 4G, and since they shot down Ukrainian radio towers, they have been using cell phones for military comms. Lmao

    • @horizons3844
      @horizons3844 2 года назад

      @@ekevanderzee9538 i thought they decentralized command after 2014 - maybe some generals haven't been as adaptive.

    • @ekevanderzee9538
      @ekevanderzee9538 2 года назад +1

      @@horizons3844 that problem seems to take care of itself. 3 generals down and counting and units left to fend for themselves galore.

  • @pirotess2
    @pirotess2 3 года назад +3

    Do you planned to make video of Regiment / Brigade and Division level of Russian Motor Rifle too? Compare the difference between Regiment and Brigade in Russian structure.

  • @fmcclellanjr
    @fmcclellanjr 2 года назад

    Good stuff dude

  • @ivanvoronov3871
    @ivanvoronov3871 3 года назад +1

    This is such a good video

  • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
    @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 года назад +13

    Btw were are some vague rumors of battalion TOE changes since 2008 reforms. Motor-rifle brigades seem to grow from 3500 to 4200-4500 men total, possibly with addition of one extra platoon to rifle companies (but squads reduced to 7 men). Additionally AGLs seems to be divided between companies and the second BMP returns to company command squad, making 15 BMPs per company. Must not be true for regiments in divisions (they more akin to soviet-era TOE) and probably not true for every brigade. Strong rumor suggests engineer and recon squads detached from rifle battalions to form additional company in engineer and recon battalions respectively

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +1

      Interesting. The 2nd Company HQ BMP rumor I had seen, but not the 4th platoon. I haven't seen much credible in writing so didn't feel confident reporting it

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +1

      If true would the 2nd BMP just be the grenade launcher squad's pre-existing BMP?

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 года назад

      @@BattleOrder alternatively, it can be 4 squad platoons (then that would be roughtly the same number of men for increased number of fighting vehicles). Probably true only for BMP formations then. I have zero proof on any of the facts myself anyway, so that's all just a fuel for imagination) At least reserve officer training manuals I've seen so far operates more or less old TOEs.

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 года назад

      @@BattleOrder well, the last thing to leak into the internet was 'super new look' brigade which had rigle battalions without dedicated agl platoon but with 15 bmps in a rifle company. With one bmp being a agl squad vehicle, there is little room to divide other 14 bmps other than 2 at the compant command plus 4 times 3 or 3 times 4 in maneuver platoons.

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 года назад +1

      @@BattleOrder bmpd.livejournal.com/157478.html - a leak source. Btw it says 'heavy brigade', we officially have only one heavy brigade (21th guards motor rifle brigade - so called 'experimental organisation'), but since then there were number of proofs about motor-rifle brigades being 4000+ men in total (more than in 2008 TOE).

  • @skyrim654
    @skyrim654 3 года назад +9

    Good stuff

  • @Xeno1001
    @Xeno1001 3 года назад +1

    Love the video and your channel, really like it, just a quick question do officers really still use the Makarov, because from what I know they use the MP-443, a small nitpick but great stuff you do, keep it up.

    • @maxspirin3945
      @maxspirin3945 2 года назад +1

      «Макаров» firearm is mostly for Russian police, as far as I know. And Military personnel consider it not up to the military tasks.

    • @kirillkrugliakov1463
      @kirillkrugliakov1463 2 года назад +1

      Very few people in Russia have actually ever seen "modern" Russian pistols. None of these are mass produced. 99% of all military and police pistols in Russia are still good old Maks. And it doesn't seem to change any time soon.

  • @gnedelcu7
    @gnedelcu7 3 года назад

    Nice soldiers & engines!
    București, RO

  • @snadem506
    @snadem506 3 года назад +4

    An amazing video! But 2 notes. I myself am an FO squad leader in an finnish mechanized battalion. And i just wanted to note that mechanized units almost never dig trenches or heavy fortifications we are all about speed. And also a tank would never retreat to friendly lines by turning around exposing its rear to an enemy wich it has engaged.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +4

      The tank turning around point is fair; I just did it so it was obvious what was going on. But as for mechanized forces, the entire Russian infantry force (except for like the parts of the VDV not mounted in the BMD) are motorized or mechanized in MT-LB, BTRs, or BMPs. And most infantry brigades ahve 3 infantry battalions and 1 tank battalion, so even Russia's lightest main forces (motorized rifle brigades) have tanks to reinforce a defense or act as a reserve. As far as I know this isn't the case in Finland with its Armoured Brigade, but I may be wrong about that.
      No armor-centric force can remain on the offense at all times. Sometimes the infantry are going to have to conduct a prepared defense. If the Motor Rifles don't do it, then all who are left to do it are Russia's proxies (as in Ukraine)

    • @snadem506
      @snadem506 3 года назад +1

      @@BattleOrder good point. But atleast here we dont hunker down so hard because the armored vehicles give us protection and when we stop the enemy assault we fire on/behind them with artillery and the reserve force and some of the defending force will allways counter attack and try to push them back. Because if we are right up at their bussines when they start to retreat they cant fire artillery on us or they are likely to hit their own troops. That is allso why we use artillery behind the enemy force so they are trapped between artillery fire and advancing force of tanks and men.

    • @snadem506
      @snadem506 3 года назад +2

      @@BattleOrder and allso big armoured forces must keep moving or the chances of them being spotted and fired upon by artillery and anti tank cluster rockets gets really high after a few days. Ofcourse they stop to refuel and rest but then usually another unit will take their place and go on with the attack. But like i said amazing video love u dude ☺️

    • @clouster75
      @clouster75 3 года назад

      @@snadem506 I wonder what is a tactic for dealing with huge combined arms assault force (standard 3:1)? You are going to counter-attack them too?

    • @snadem506
      @snadem506 3 года назад

      @@clouster75 first we stop them. Then we drop a shit ton of arty on them and if they try and regroup/fall back then fuck yeah well push them as far as theyll go

  • @blackore64
    @blackore64 3 года назад +38

    I think I saw a picture in Russian Ministry of Defence's website from one of their excercises from this year which shows a medic with regular rifle squad armed with AKS-74U in an exercise. Are Medic-riflemen possibly equipped with these in some units?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +18

      I don't know the full context or a lot of the nuance with regards to the AKS-74U so I can't really say. They were originally meant for vehicle crews (like a tank commander or a BMP driver, but not the gunner who got a regular rifle). Nowadays it seems they've proliferated more as a carbine for some positions but I don't know how much flexibility there is with that

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 года назад +20

      AKS-74U are long out of production and used only if available. The only 'legit' rifle is AK-74M (at least until the AK-12 ), althought russian TOE's are quite fluid an can be changed on regimental/brigade commander's decision based on equipment available. At some point in the past even RPG gunners could have been armed with AKS-74U (or AKS-74 or any other more compact version of AK).

    • @cesargonzalez4146
      @cesargonzalez4146 3 года назад +4

      @Alexandr Noskov I believe current gen weapons are bound to obsolescence, the main factor is that body armor and ballistic protection is becoming more effective, light weight and affordable by the minute, not only restricted to military and police forces but expanding to terrorist groups, insurgents and criminals, in ten to fifteen years they will surpass current gen weapons and projectiles. In my opinion is a waste of time and resources to keep spamming new weapons looking for improvements in accuracy, stability and rate of fire, things that are important but not that important. Armies will have to change not only weapons but the type of ammunition the weapons use, new kinds of projectiles, more dense, travelling at higher velocities, with a flatter trajectory, able to pierce through next gen body armor and ballistic protection.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 года назад +25

      The Russian Federation very much carries on a pragmatic old Russian military practice of phasing out weapons very slowly unless they are seriously obsolete, so you will find plenty of soldiers still using AK74s and AKS-74Us. The plan is for most all soldiers to use AK74Ms, but the Kremlin is not in a rush. If you make all the few millions of guns Russia's standing army and first line of reserves need in just a couple of years, it is hard to justify keeping all those skilled workers around just to make the few hundreds of guns needed to deal with wastage as soldiers drop them in the ocean or run them over with tanks. If you make just a few-hundred-thousand weapons a year for a decade or more, you can keep a lot more experienced people around, and so the factories are much better able to expand in the event of an emergency. Also helps spread the costs out over time.

    • @markacostajr.1584
      @markacostajr.1584 3 года назад

      @Alexandr Noskov when was this?

  • @kokozaba2
    @kokozaba2 2 года назад

    Хорошее видео, спасибо!

  • @Amex-ib4py
    @Amex-ib4py 7 месяцев назад

    Compliments for the outstanding video ! One question, can we rely on the structure of company and battalion also for Russian Naval Infantry ? It is difficult to find information other its organization. Thanks !

  • @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
    @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl 3 года назад +4

    Russian IFV's can swim their tanks can ford rivers by driving on the bottom (preparation required). Choke point are therefore avoided.

  • @kgthompson5814
    @kgthompson5814 2 года назад +386

    You should really tell russia about these tactics. I don't even think they knew.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Год назад

      they use the tactics of theft and robbery. And the tactics of total destruction.

    • @pws354_8
      @pws354_8 Год назад +25

      They know, the problem is that they didn't constantly practice and stress using it on field training exercises or force on force training before they were deployed in Ukraine, for them to effectively use what they know on the field. In addition, the US military was able to train the troops of field training exercises with MILES laser tag gear to be effective, while Russia's troops mostly used Potemkin training.

    • @alphabears6342
      @alphabears6342 Год назад +15

      Force on force is good exercise when in small groups and platoons. When you fight a war in a conventional way, you cannot have such force on force training. The US during the Second World War did not train everyone force on force. It’s easier to train force on force when fighting an insurgent but the same cannot be said and done when fighting a conventional army.

    • @minydoom
      @minydoom 11 месяцев назад +10

      Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake

    • @Mr.InbetweenFX
      @Mr.InbetweenFX 11 месяцев назад +10

      They had this on paper, they were supposed to have the resources to carry this out but the corruption truly fucked their actual capabilities and fortunately it doesn't compare with the projected capabilities.

  • @optionski5535
    @optionski5535 3 года назад

    Love these videos! Is there any chance for different country platoon organizations like Japan, China, Finland or others possibly?

  • @zinckeeper
    @zinckeeper 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Could you maybe cover the new British strike brigades. I think their make up and intended usage is very interesting