Love to see club makers/fitters like AJ go through the steps to properly fit clubs. I learned how to fit clubs the correct way 30 years ago and have accumulated the tools to do so. I reshaft and fit my own equipment so I know they’re done right. I check my lofts and lies at least twice a season, sometimes more so I know my lofts and lies are precise. It’s a shame there are butchers out there who do club fitting a disservice. It s terrific to see people like AJ out there to teach how to properly fit clubs and explain what the steps are. Well done!
Pretty common to see unswingweighted iron sets when they re shafted at big box retailers. They guys r getting paid minimum wage, probably don’t even keep on top of inventory for tip weights, and pump out too much work daily to take the extra time to do it. I do all my own custom work, but if I was taking them to somebody, I would specifically tell them to swingweight them and specify what swingweight I want them at. I would also tell them I’m in no rush and give them a few extra days. I would even flip the guy 10$ cash and tell him thanks. Ur clubs will def get done right. That’s just the way it works at places like that🤷♂️
C5 added 6 grams that brought you to c8 maybe c9. Still Absurdly light. Nowhere near what he calls where they are “suppose” to be. D2 d3 would be factory. Your still 6-8 grams light on the head end of the shaft. Which plays massively into how the shaft flexes and everything else. I’d keep searching for a club builder.
I recently e-mailed AJ concerning a set of irons that were on ebay. I only new him from watching his RUclips channel, and of course he didn't know me. Yet he responded to me within a day and gave me some solid advice and imparted his wisdom on my search for a new set of irons. I really appreciate his honesty and his efforts to steer me in the right direction. You are so lucky that he is near you and available to help you with your golf equipment. He is the man!
Most of these big box stores hire part-timers straight out of high-school. Many who don’t even play golf just to do regripping and club work. There are also reputable people there. But, it’s a gamble who will actually be working on your clubs. If you’re at all serious about your clubs, you’ve got to take it to a reputable custom shop.
Back in the old days all graphite irons were built 1/4-1/2” longer so that swing weight was the same in both graphite and steel. This is not required for many of today’s shafts because the shafts for irons are made to have a similar weight distribution as steel even when the shaft is lighter overall.
I had a similar experience recently with Golf Galaxy. Took my Stealth DHY to get reshafted with a new shaft I brought in, specified the EXACT length I wanted, which was Taylormade stock length for that club and that I wanted the TM swing weight or as close as they could get. Well, the DHY came out a full 1/2" short and 5 swing weights off. I'm beyond PISSED
I'm sorry you experienced this. Sadly, some employees take it upon themselves to do club tech work that they haven't learned or aren't qualified for. Our head club technician is phenomenal at our store. He's been doing it for decades and it's so cool to watch him work because it is second nature to him at this point.
I love builders with pride and integrity. People that took on a profession because they enjoy their work, not just grinding away for a paycheck. Too many times I'd check out a shop and talk to the tech, but see in the background the clubs being worked on by what looks like apprentices. I get it, they are learning. I'd rather not have them learn on my clubs. They really shouldn't be "learning" on any customer's clubs by themselves.
Man. I always totally appreciate sports technicians technical knowledge and passion to get things rite. Plus you can see AJ was pretty stoked with your swing test reaction. 👍👌☝️😊
I've learned a lot of very useful information from AJ. So much so that when it comes to buildimg/rebuilding my own clubs, I trust myself more than I would any of the local 'shops'.
AJ, @EFGMC is the man. I’ve learned so much from his videos and he was even gracious enough to respond to DMs I sent him when I was having trouble swingweighting a set of LAGP 120L irons. Couldn’t be a better dude 🤘🏼!
Heavy graphite shafts are tough as they tend to make SW light but there's no real space to put in tip weights. I have Steelfiber 115s and most of my clubs are slathered in lead tape. Would love to have mine done to all weight out at my preferred D4.5 without the tape.
I reshafted my own clubs with recoils. Their instructions say to cut graphite 1/2" longer. They do that to bring up the swingweight. The problem is if they're too friggin' long then having a heavier swingweight doesn't matter. In my case, I ended up loving the half in over and just kept it.
Honestly if you ask for “standard” length then it’s gonna vary because every manufacturer has a different standard length and standard length has been increasing ever so slightly over the years. Best to specify exactly how many inches you want each club to be
I agree with you to an extent. I was a certified fitter and clubmaker back in the day, if I was told standard, I would simply say, to this set? or Standard standard? and be referring to the golfworks standard (or the ping chart if ping is still very consistent, I havent looked in a while)
Yes but "standard" length for a 5-iron is never going to be 39 inches, that's just crazy. I could see them doing 0.5 over for graphite shafts, so 38.5 inches. But 39 is just wrong.
@@nova68nova mid 2000s taylormades were famously about 1/4'' over standard for more distance in fittings, consequently, they tested to upright for most golfers as well, reducing fade bias and more distance as well, sneaky boys :)
I've been subscribed to his youtube channel for quite a while now.. his video are one of the reasons I started replacing my own grips (I go through them quite quickly).. can highly recommend AJs channel for anyone that loves the see the technical side of club making.
Mass produced irons sets will often be way off re specs. You don't know until they are taken apart, as per the video. If manufacturers weight sorted their heads, shafts and grips before assembly, then dry fitted before glueing, less of this poor quality would take place. Weight sorting heads would mean no lead and no shaft tip weighting. No extra weighting also preserves the center of gravity of the head itself. Hosel weighting changes the center of gravity. The reason big brands add a half inch to their graphite offerings is because they are too lazy to sort by weight. So, there is no such thing as standard length when they have one standard for steel shafts and and another for graphite shafts. There should be a 7g progression throughout the set (#5 iron head should 7g less than the #6 iron head) to allow for the shorter shaft in the #6 iron. If you want exact specs made for you, use a small manufacturer who makes one set at a time to your specs. Such a company is Jeffmont in Seattle who make the Avian brand of irons.
I bought pulled shafts once, the lengths were correct, but every shaft had a counter weight in the butt section. It was a disaster, not to mention the club heads (which were stated standard lie) were actually 4* flat, it was a costly and time consuming mistake. Find someone you trust and be willing to pay for good work.
Love this video Matt. I like the way you’re showcasing AJ’s talent. He seems to be an excellent fitter and club builder. He’s very meticulous and precise. That’s a sign of a great club fitter and builder. I also like the way you two help each other out with your channels.
It sounds like the previous builder may have put someone else's specs on to your clubs, mistakenly. You don't have to tell us who it was, but definitely let the company who initially built the clubs know what happened so they can fix their processes.
gotta love the passion he has for the job. truelly a numbers man. not the most interesting subject, but the enthousiasm all makes up for it. very informative too.
I just established a relationship like this 2 weeks ago and I should have done it years ago! Instant improvement with swing and results with it all together.
He's such a soothing presence, the man from Elite Fit Golf. I watched his reviews of the Sub70 699Pro v2 and they were what convinced me to pull the trigger. Strong content, this!
I'm really curious how this actually happens in the first place. Like if I order custom length/lie straight from a manufacturer is there potential that it has these problems?
Speaking from personal experience here. PGA Club Pro and I typically get a new set every 2 years. I know the exact specs that I want and that is how my clubs are ordered. I always check the lofts/lies as soon I get the set and I typically have to change 3-5 clubs each time. I also add lead tape to some to get the swing weights in-line. I'll fine tune the clubs for a month or so, until I get them the way I like. A good club-fitter like AJ would eliminate my having to do this.
I looked up the length of my irons vs what yours are/what is said here 38” to be standard. I play Cobra Radspeed, for this set stock 5 iron length 38.5”, w/ Arccos grip 38.75”
I sold golf equipment and did club repair for 20+ years. You would not believe the DIY club repairs or home built sets I saw and what they looked like. JB Weld was a favorite for some of the “club builders”. More than once I had to tell a customer, I’m sorry, I can’t fix that.
Years ago I had a golf repair guy that fit my clubs to me. I was getting new grips and he took it a step further and ended up adding 1/2” length , balanced swing weight , bent lie 2° upright . Those clubs felt and played great
This is one of my favorite golf channels on RUclips. I always enjoy the information that I get here. Whatever happened to the Hogan PTX Pros that you had a long time ago?
Wow. I'm a hobbyist builder and I can't believe some of the custom built clubs I have seen and redone for customers who were 'fitted' and built by a professional. It amazes me that people who are formally trained can get it so wrong.
When a person orders a set of clubs with midsize grips from one of the major companies, do the assemblers typically add a small weight at the club head end to compensate for the additional weight of the grip?
cool video, thank you for that. I'm playing since 20 years and got fitted couple of times but no fitter ever checked swingweight, so this is new to me. can someone tell me what this matters and what a wrong swingweight cause to my strokes? I'm hcp 10 player. thank you very much?
I don't need clubs fit yet cause I am not a good player in any way shape or form, but good to know this guy is in my area when the time comes! it's exciting
I will say generally graphite shafted irons are a 1/2 inch longer than steel for the same set. I hope hebdoubled checked. If you wanted them standard length for the steel version then all good. Its juat tough to have the same swing weight with such a light shaft.
Mr S which video is the follow-up to this video. I wanna see how you feel about the clubs once they all have been fixed. Oh and I've watched a lot of AJ's videos as well. I'm a golf dork so AJ's and your videos appeal to me.
Not sure if this was done or not from this video...but when you use those graphite tip weights you have to cut from the butt or the tip for that 1/4 to get back to standard length.
I bought a set of Mizunos with Aero Steelfiber shafts that the builder messed up. They forgot the tip weights in the 9 and 6 iron so they were mid C9. Expensive mistake
When converting to graphite shafts from steel, the easy way to maintain swing weights is to make each club longer. Even club manufacturers used to make graphite shafted versions of their irons with longer shafts.
This is true. However, now the clubs are longer and they might not properly fit the golfer. Length is a huge part of the fitting process. You also have to factor in the lie of the club - Effectively, when you lengthen a club, you also make the lie of the club more upright, which is also a critical factor.
I thought standard club lengths depended on the manufacturer and their headweight, and also whether it was a steel or graphite shaft. I do know that at least one component company that I have dealt with, their standard length charts were 1/2" difference between steel and graphite.
They'll typically make graphite shafted clubs longer because the shafts are lighter, which causes the swing weight to be lower. The extra length moves the balance point further out to offset this. Problem is, most golfers don't need longer clubs, so now they're more difficult to hit solid. The lengthening could be avoided by adding weight into the tip-end of the shaft, as AJ did when he re-shafted.
As a Certified GolfSmith for over 45 years no mention was made of the make or model of the Club head...This has a bearing on the net result... to add weight to the hosel end in order to increase swing weight is a no no ! It moves the centre of gravity to the toe..Not a good move! Always better to add length to the shaft length. If it was a quality head from a renown manufacturer this would not be necessary. Even for the fitting of a graphite shaft..AJ's professional workshop environment is to be commended...
Did they do correct tip trimming. It would be nice for AJ to show that. In the address position with all the clubs lined up in sequence the labels should have have half inch progressions with the wedge label closest to the floor and the longest club the farther up.
I've custom built 5 sets of irons with LA Golf shafts, you had better know what your doing or you end up with a mix bag like this and a club builder who is a scam artist. Adding head weight, proper setting of the shafts weights and measuring swing weight is the most important with LA shafts. However once you build them correctly, they feel amazing. Great video with a master club builder and a lesson to do your research on who is building your gear. Awesome.
Oh yeah. I used to build clubs for myself and friends. Done correctly, huge difference, done incorrectly and you will believe all sorts of things are wrong with your swing, when the issues are with the clubs. BTW, I hate those ferrules, so you don't have to worry about me stealing your clubs.
My two favorite golf channels in the same video? Awesome!! Love those LA Golf graphite shafts too. Have them in my Forged Tec X irons. Just about to have some BB&F ferrules put on as well!
Re gripped my whole bag at Golf Galaxy, not one of my grips is on straight -_- My dumbass didn't check the clubs before I left the store and when I came back, they refused to fix them. Never shopping there again.
MSG what was the final swing weight that had to settled on for the whole set. I'm guessing C7-C9 at the best. Just wondering for my own club making mind. Good video, thanks.
Amazing that any club builder could be so careless and incompetent. I’ve been a hobbyist club builder for 30 years and have seen some bad work also. Regarding swing weight, have you ever built to MOI matching? I do this by building with .40 length change rather than .50. It helps with not having to bend over too much with short irons. Clubs truly feel the same.
Those ferrules are sweet. AJ knows his stuff, for sure. Random question -- do you know how wide that simulator is that you tested the clubs on after they were built? I'm building a simulator room in our new house and that size looks just about perfect. Curious on height x width and/or diagonal.
AJ is a class act. Glad to see you promote a great club maker...been a fan of him for a long time! Love his new shop.
What’s the name of his shop please?
Love to see club makers/fitters like AJ go through the steps to properly fit clubs. I learned how to fit clubs the correct way 30 years ago and have accumulated the tools to do so. I reshaft and fit my own equipment so I know they’re done right. I check my lofts and lies at least twice a season, sometimes more so I know my lofts and lies are precise. It’s a shame there are butchers out there who do club fitting a disservice. It s terrific to see people like AJ out there to teach how to properly fit clubs and explain what the steps are. Well done!
Pretty common to see unswingweighted iron sets when they re shafted at big box retailers. They guys r getting paid minimum wage, probably don’t even keep on top of inventory for tip weights, and pump out too much work daily to take the extra time to do it. I do all my own custom work, but if I was taking them to somebody, I would specifically tell them to swingweight them and specify what swingweight I want them at. I would also tell them I’m in no rush and give them a few extra days. I would even flip the guy 10$ cash and tell him thanks. Ur clubs will def get done right. That’s just the way it works at places like that🤷♂️
Speaking from experience, $25 bucks would be a lot better... But, realistically, it shouldn't matter because they should want to do them right anyway.
You can tell by the cleanliness and organization of AJ's place that he's a true professional. Love those ferrules too, came out great.
Great stuff , That why am now playing PING .. east to adjust the swing weights...
C5 added 6 grams that brought you to c8 maybe c9. Still Absurdly light. Nowhere near what he calls where they are “suppose” to be. D2 d3 would be factory. Your still 6-8 grams light on the head end of the shaft. Which plays massively into how the shaft flexes and everything else. I’d keep searching for a club builder.
I recently e-mailed AJ concerning a set of irons that were on ebay. I only new him from watching his RUclips channel, and of course he didn't know me. Yet he responded to me within a day and gave me some solid advice and imparted his wisdom on my search for a new set of irons. I really appreciate his honesty and his efforts to steer me in the right direction. You are so lucky that he is near you and available to help you with your golf equipment. He is the man!
Most of these big box stores hire part-timers straight out of high-school. Many who don’t even play golf just to do regripping and club work. There are also reputable people there. But, it’s a gamble who will actually be working on your clubs. If you’re at all serious about your clubs, you’ve got to take it to a reputable custom shop.
I love AJ's channel. Been watching his stuff for quite a while. A real class act.
That was an awesome video. Wish there are more club making guys like AJ out there.
Club champion is the one that built the clubs.He did a video on do you need a shaft fitting. Beware who you spend your money with.
for 99% of golfers this is all BS... It's just a way to keep people employed
Such a great collab! Been following AJ for a while, dude should have wayyyy more subscribers.
Back in the old days all graphite irons were built 1/4-1/2” longer so that swing weight was the same in both graphite and steel. This is not required for many of today’s shafts because the shafts for irons are made to have a similar weight distribution as steel even when the shaft is lighter overall.
I had a similar experience recently with Golf Galaxy. Took my Stealth DHY to get reshafted with a new shaft I brought in, specified the EXACT length I wanted, which was Taylormade stock length for that club and that I wanted the TM swing weight or as close as they could get. Well, the DHY came out a full 1/2" short and 5 swing weights off. I'm beyond PISSED
I'm sorry you experienced this. Sadly, some employees take it upon themselves to do club tech work that they haven't learned or aren't qualified for. Our head club technician is phenomenal at our store. He's been doing it for decades and it's so cool to watch him work because it is second nature to him at this point.
I love builders with pride and integrity.
People that took on a profession because they enjoy their work, not just grinding away for a paycheck.
Too many times I'd check out a shop and talk to the tech, but see in the background the clubs being worked on by what looks like apprentices.
I get it, they are learning. I'd rather not have them learn on my clubs. They really shouldn't be "learning" on any customer's clubs by themselves.
Man. I always totally appreciate sports technicians technical knowledge and passion to get things rite.
Plus you can see AJ was pretty stoked with your swing test reaction. 👍👌☝️😊
Nothing better than finding someone who knows what he's doing.
You went to the right place. AJ knows his stuff. Good to see he has a nice new shop.
I've learned a lot of very useful information from AJ. So much so that when it comes to buildimg/rebuilding my own clubs, I trust myself more than I would any of the local 'shops'.
AJ, @EFGMC is the man. I’ve learned so much from his videos and he was even gracious enough to respond to DMs I sent him when I was having trouble swingweighting a set of LAGP 120L irons. Couldn’t be a better dude 🤘🏼!
Heavy graphite shafts are tough as they tend to make SW light but there's no real space to put in tip weights. I have Steelfiber 115s and most of my clubs are slathered in lead tape. Would love to have mine done to all weight out at my preferred D4.5 without the tape.
I reshafted my own clubs with recoils. Their instructions say to cut graphite 1/2" longer. They do that to bring up the swingweight. The problem is if they're too friggin' long then having a heavier swingweight doesn't matter. In my case, I ended up loving the half in over and just kept it.
Love seeing someone take pride in their craft and whom displays true professionalism. Becoming more and more rare to find quality work. Thank you sir
Honestly if you ask for “standard” length then it’s gonna vary because every manufacturer has a different standard length and standard length has been increasing ever so slightly over the years. Best to specify exactly how many inches you want each club to be
I agree with you to an extent. I was a certified fitter and clubmaker back in the day, if I was told standard, I would simply say, to this set? or Standard standard? and be referring to the golfworks standard (or the ping chart if ping is still very consistent, I havent looked in a while)
Yes but "standard" length for a 5-iron is never going to be 39 inches, that's just crazy. I could see them doing 0.5 over for graphite shafts, so 38.5 inches. But 39 is just wrong.
@@nova68nova mid 2000s taylormades were famously about 1/4'' over standard for more distance in fittings, consequently, they tested to upright for most golfers as well, reducing fade bias and more distance as well, sneaky boys :)
what was the final swingweight on the clubs up PW?
Hello Matt,what was the final swing weight on your irons after he added the weights? Thanks
Hey, this is awesome. I love the mobile club maker is channel is awesome. Kudos to you Matt for taking your clubs there.
AJ at 1:23: "which is not what you want?!?" That killed... :D
Very interesting insight. I'm surprised to see how off the clubs were before since they were "custom made" to begin with.
They were custom with different shafts then got new shaft put in. That’s where they all got messed up.
I love AJ's channel. I've learned a lot from him and continue to do so.
Rough experience at Club Champion too. All my lofts and lie readings were way off. Didnt think to check length of my irons. Ugh
Yeah, if you get longer clubs, they are going to automatically be more upright. Conversely, flatter for shorter clubs.
I've been subscribed to his youtube channel for quite a while now.. his video are one of the reasons I started replacing my own grips (I go through them quite quickly).. can highly recommend AJs channel for anyone that loves the see the technical side of club making.
Mass produced irons sets will often be way off re specs. You don't know until they are taken apart, as per the video.
If manufacturers weight sorted their heads, shafts and grips before assembly, then dry fitted before glueing, less of this poor quality would take place.
Weight sorting heads would mean no lead and no shaft tip weighting.
No extra weighting also preserves the center of gravity of the head itself. Hosel weighting changes the center of gravity.
The reason big brands add a half inch to their graphite offerings is because they are too lazy to sort by weight.
So, there is no such thing as standard length when they have one standard for steel shafts and and another for graphite shafts.
There should be a 7g progression throughout the set (#5 iron head should 7g less than the #6 iron head) to allow for the shorter shaft in the #6 iron.
If you want exact specs made for you, use a small manufacturer who makes one set at a time to your specs.
Such a company is Jeffmont in Seattle who make the Avian brand of irons.
I bought pulled shafts once, the lengths were correct, but every shaft had a counter weight in the butt section. It was a disaster, not to mention the club heads (which were stated standard lie) were actually 4* flat, it was a costly and time consuming mistake. Find someone you trust and be willing to pay for good work.
Love this video Matt. I like the way you’re showcasing AJ’s talent. He seems to be an excellent fitter and club builder. He’s very meticulous and precise. That’s a sign of a great club fitter and builder. I also like the way you two help each other out with your channels.
Been following his channel for awhile now. Quality content and glad to see you guys collaborating.
Why didn't you return them?
It sounds like the previous builder may have put someone else's specs on to your clubs, mistakenly. You don't have to tell us who it was, but definitely let the company who initially built the clubs know what happened so they can fix their processes.
gotta love the passion he has for the job. truelly a numbers man. not the most interesting subject, but the enthousiasm all makes up for it. very informative too.
What's with the funky ferrule...and, not just a muted black hole...geesch...it does have a lavender softness to it...which is nice...!!
This is why I use a private fitter, who also happens to be my swing coach. He isn't trying to sell me anything and he knows my swing inside and out.
I just established a relationship like this 2 weeks ago and I should have done it years ago! Instant improvement with swing and results with it all together.
Excellent! Hopefully he is a PGA Professional....
You should have included the swing weights that you were able to achieve at proper length and with the tip weights you used to try to get consistency.
Love watching a master of their craft do their thing
Love all your vids keep it up
He's such a soothing presence, the man from Elite Fit Golf. I watched his reviews of the Sub70 699Pro v2 and they were what convinced me to pull the trigger.
Strong content, this!
I'm really curious how this actually happens in the first place. Like if I order custom length/lie straight from a manufacturer is there potential that it has these problems?
Speaking from personal experience here. PGA Club Pro and I typically get a new set every 2 years. I know the exact specs that I want and that is how my clubs are ordered. I always check the lofts/lies as soon I get the set and I typically have to change 3-5 clubs each time. I also add lead tape to some to get the swing weights in-line. I'll fine tune the clubs for a month or so, until I get them the way I like. A good club-fitter like AJ would eliminate my having to do this.
I looked up the length of my irons vs what yours are/what is said here 38” to be standard. I play Cobra Radspeed, for this set stock 5 iron length 38.5”, w/ Arccos grip 38.75”
I sold golf equipment and did club repair for 20+ years. You would not believe the DIY club repairs or home built sets I saw and what they looked like. JB Weld was a favorite for some of the “club builders”. More than once I had to tell a customer, I’m sorry, I can’t fix that.
Love this one MSG! AJ’s channel has so much good info also. I need to move to Georgia.
I’m pretty sure when he did the original video, they were built by Club Champion of Atlanta.
Years ago I had a golf repair guy that fit my clubs to me. I was getting new grips and he took it a step further and ended up adding 1/2” length , balanced swing weight , bent lie 2° upright . Those clubs felt and played great
Great subject matter and for all to see what kind of work is out there and we've all ran into it! Great job!
Member of both your channels! AJ is a pro for sure!!
I did club building/repair for 5 years and almost every set of clubs that came my way were not what the customer thought they were, pretty sad!
This is one of my favorite golf channels on RUclips. I always enjoy the information that I get here.
Whatever happened to the Hogan PTX Pros that you had a long time ago?
Wow. I'm a hobbyist builder and I can't believe some of the custom built clubs I have seen and redone for customers who were 'fitted' and built by a professional. It amazes me that people who are formally trained can get it so wrong.
Big shops seem to go for speed
When a person orders a set of clubs with midsize grips from one of the major companies, do the assemblers typically add a small weight at the club head end to compensate for the additional weight of the grip?
cool video, thank you for that.
I'm playing since 20 years and got fitted couple of times but no fitter ever checked swingweight, so this is new to me. can someone tell me what this matters and what a wrong swingweight cause to my strokes? I'm hcp 10 player.
thank you very much?
Sick 3rd gen 4runner
did that big tip weight add length. looked like it...why butt trim then add length....??
I don't need clubs fit yet cause I am not a good player in any way shape or form, but good to know this guy is in my area when the time comes! it's exciting
Great video! Question though how do you ensure you find a quality club fitter in your area? Is there a certification process to ask about?
I will say generally graphite shafted irons are a 1/2 inch longer than steel for the same set. I hope hebdoubled checked. If you wanted them standard length for the steel version then all good. Its juat tough to have the same swing weight with such a light shaft.
AJ added weights in the tip end to compensate for this.
Wow! Amazing the prior club maker messed up so bad. At least you found AJ and got it corrected.
Mr S which video is the follow-up to this video. I wanna see how you feel about the clubs once they all have been fixed. Oh and I've watched a lot of AJ's videos as well. I'm a golf dork so AJ's and your videos appeal to me.
AJ built my one length Takomo 101 club set that I am using for 2023. Love them!
Nice and a Great job. But why did you not get AJ to SST your shafts???? Don't make sence when you went through all the other boxes???? Thanks...
AJ is the man!
Great setup. I play the T100S with LA Golf shafts, too.
Standard lengths on graphite shafts are generally a half inch longer than steel
Where is mr short game located so if I would like to book some lessons I know where I would have to go
Not sure if this was done or not from this video...but when you use those graphite tip weights you have to cut from the butt or the tip for that 1/4 to get back to standard length.
You would always (almost) cut from the butt end. Unless you're trying to stiffen the tip of the shaft.
whats the website for the custom ferrules?
I bought a set of Mizunos with Aero Steelfiber shafts that the builder messed up. They forgot the tip weights in the 9 and 6 iron so they were mid C9. Expensive mistake
Nothing like watching an expert craftsman at work. Very nice.
When converting to graphite shafts from steel, the easy way to maintain swing weights is to make each club longer. Even club manufacturers used to make graphite shafted versions of their irons with longer shafts.
This is true. However, now the clubs are longer and they might not properly fit the golfer. Length is a huge part of the fitting process. You also have to factor in the lie of the club - Effectively, when you lengthen a club, you also make the lie of the club more upright, which is also a critical factor.
I watch this guys videos all the time, when I really want info about golf gear I go to AJ. He has been a tremendous help, as have you been MSG.
I work at pga tour super store. We rarely ever make mistakes so I’m hoping that’s not where you went.
I thought standard club lengths depended on the manufacturer and their headweight, and also whether it was a steel or graphite shaft. I do know that at least one component company that I have dealt with, their standard length charts were 1/2" difference between steel and graphite.
They'll typically make graphite shafted clubs longer because the shafts are lighter, which causes the swing weight to be lower. The extra length moves the balance point further out to offset this. Problem is, most golfers don't need longer clubs, so now they're more difficult to hit solid. The lengthening could be avoided by adding weight into the tip-end of the shaft, as AJ did when he re-shafted.
As a Certified GolfSmith for over 45 years no mention was made of the make or model of the Club head...This has a bearing on the net result... to add weight to the hosel end in order to increase swing weight is a no no ! It moves the centre of gravity to the toe..Not a good move! Always better to add length to the shaft length. If it was a quality head from a renown manufacturer this would not be necessary. Even for the fitting of a graphite shaft..AJ's professional workshop environment is to be commended...
"Swingweight doesn't really matter as long as they're the same" is a wild statement
oh i had no clue you were in the atlanta area. ill be back in atlanta next month so i will definitely be coming to make a visit with AJ
Nice revival of the irons! looking slick once again and usable
Did they do correct tip trimming. It would be nice for AJ to show that. In the address position with all the clubs lined up in sequence the labels should have have half inch progressions with the wedge label closest to the floor and the longest club the farther up.
He would have trimmed from the butt end, not the tip.
I've custom built 5 sets of irons with LA Golf shafts, you had better know what your doing or you end up with a mix bag like this and a club builder who is a scam artist. Adding head weight, proper setting of the shafts weights and measuring swing weight is the most important with LA shafts. However once you build them correctly, they feel amazing. Great video with a master club builder and a lesson to do your research on who is building your gear. Awesome.
Oh yeah. I used to build clubs for myself and friends. Done correctly, huge difference, done incorrectly and you will believe all sorts of things are wrong with your swing, when the issues are with the clubs. BTW, I hate those ferrules, so you don't have to worry about me stealing your clubs.
Love AJs videos, I always learn a lot.
nice job club champion..... i believe you did a video when you got those.
what would something like this have cost the normal consumer?
My two favorite golf channels in the same video? Awesome!! Love those LA Golf graphite shafts too. Have them in my Forged Tec X irons. Just about to have some BB&F ferrules put on as well!
AJ is the man have been following for a long time!
That guy is great to watch!! Amazing channel.
Re gripped my whole bag at Golf Galaxy, not one of my grips is on straight -_- My dumbass didn't check the clubs before I left the store and when I came back, they refused to fix them. Never shopping there again.
AJ taught me everything I know about club building on his YT channels. Such a good dude!
@mobileclubmaker Which drill bit is that? And what did you use with the hammer for those epoxy tap outs?
MSG what was the final swing weight that had to settled on for the whole set. I'm guessing C7-C9 at the best. Just wondering for my own club making mind. Good video, thanks.
Amazing that any club builder could be so careless and incompetent. I’ve been a hobbyist club builder for 30 years and have seen some bad work also. Regarding swing weight, have you ever built to MOI matching? I do this by building with .40 length change rather than .50. It helps with not having to bend over too much with short irons. Clubs truly feel the same.
AJ is the man. I like the new shop!
Really nice work AJ😊
The crazy thing is, here in the UK, with all the major brands, you aren’t allowed to state what swing weight you require. PXG are the exception.
Those ferrules are sweet. AJ knows his stuff, for sure. Random question -- do you know how wide that simulator is that you tested the clubs on after they were built? I'm building a simulator room in our new house and that size looks just about perfect. Curious on height x width and/or diagonal.
9x14ft
Are those ferrules what I think they are?