NASA to Cancel Starliner 1st Operational Mission After CFT-1 Failure. Here's Why!
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- NASA to Cancel Starliner 1st Operational Mission After CFT-1 Failure. Here's Why!
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intro 0:00
(The updates on Starliner’s two major issues) 0:52
(First Starliner operational mission) 3:38
outro 8:02
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NASA to Cancel Starliner 1st Operational Mission After CFT-1 Failure. Here's Why!
If you had a chance, what would you ride to get to space?
Well, the answer is a no-brainer: SpaceX Dragon.
Given the Boeing Starliner scandals, even astronauts trained to face the most dangerous situations are afraid to bet their lives on this spacecraft.
And their insecurity is escalating while the first Starliner operational mission, following its Crew Flight test, is coming closer.
Public pressure once again forced Nasa to make a vital decision: canceling this dangerous mission.
Find out everything in today's episode of Techmap.
NASA to Cancel Starliner 1st Operational Mission After CFT-1 Failure. Here's Why!
On Tuesday, June 18, Nasa and Boeing leadership held a teleconference to discuss the status of the agency’s Boeing Crew Flight Test. Additionally, they provided pre-departure details as teams prepare to return Nasa astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams to Earth from the International Space Station.
NASA to Cancel Starliner 1st Operational Mission After CFT-1 Failure. Here's Why!
The current tension mainly comes from two major hardware issues that Starliner has been facing, including five separate helium leaks and the failure of five out of 28 reaction control system thrusters.
Currently, engineers from Nasa and Boeing have still been studying two problems, and on Saturday when the vehicle went through the thruster firing test, they had an opportunity to look at both.
Talking about the fifth leak after docking, they said:
"it's a very small leak that we saw uh after docking so that's the fifth leak it's the smallest of all um that we've seen and very similar to what we saw on OF2".
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If Boeing opened a funeral parlour, people would stop dying.
I thought boing were running a funeral parlour 😁👍
Well, the caskets wouldn't stay closed anyway.
Sick of these BS click bait titles, thumbs down!
Clickbait. Nothing is cancelled
thanks for cmt
@@techmap9👎👎👎👎👎. Spreading misinformation is your hobby
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Thank you!
And yet people actually think this is real.
The only issue with Starliner is that it is a death trap.
If It is is going smoothly, why is NASA continuing to delay the return? NASA is doing damage control for Boeing.
What a embarrassment not only to Boeing but to NASA who wasted so much tax payers money...Heads should roll in Both organizations...🤮
Clickbait, NASA has NOT cancelled Starliner, your thumbnail is simply wrong.
Thanks for cmt
@@techmap9 are they right ? Changing thumbnail ?
If you read the title, it’s not the program that is cancelled, but the first operational mission.
Why I can't see the answers of the channel?
@@jeanlehoux4582 I specifically referred to the thumbnail which states "NASA CANCELED STARLINER!"
the only reason the leak rate reduces is because the tank is running low.
reminds me of apollo.
there is no leak if there is nothing to leak :D
Clickbait. You admit, they said it can return smoothly. Yet your title states the opposite. Not a Boeing fan, but also not a fan of this kind of journalism.
1. Bring back safely the astronauts on Earth (with Dragon) 2. Stop Starliner program 3. Give the money back to taxpayers 4. Dismantle Boeing
It’s impossible
Keep the crew in ISS until a Dragon can come pick them up and bring them home. In the mean time send the Starliner capsule home empty and not risk the astronauts
Absolute horseshit, no cancelation at all
thanks for cmt
I'm very happy to hear the crew are terrified to come home on that coffin. Thank God
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Boeing Space and Aircraft Co. is apparently suffering the ill effects of some poor management decisions several years ago and the chickens have come home to roost. Boeing has lost their MOJO and the premiere engineering and production company is no more. As for me, I was sacred to death to watch it launch with two humans on-board.
It seems that when Boeing merged with Mac Douglas things started going downhill with a rush and the beat goes on.
Leaky valves don't heal themselves. Not possible. The only way leaking slows down is you are running out of propellant or temperature change. That's it..
Or close a valve that's upstream from the leak.
They lied us a lot, don’t they
"Starlinner?" Why can't they pronounce it correctly?
If I was those two astronauts I wouldn’t get in that Boeing death trap. That’s exactly what happened to the two doomed shuttle missions. Both deadly missions were preventable if only they would have done the right things, not launch with faulty o-rings in cold weather and did a space walk to inspect the shuttle damage. I would definitely not trust NASA let alone Boeing. Neither are trustworthy.
Misleading Title! NASA didn't cancel Starliner yet!
Whilst it may be interesting to be a fly on the wall in Boeing. But one wonder if it is such a good idea, as the wall may not be secured properly using the wrong bolts or wrong material and falls over while you are standing on it.
Just stay away from the doors.
Anything Bill Nelson is incharge of will be a disaster!
The sensible thing thing would be returning the capsule empty and bringing the astronauts home on the dragon.
Well now, that was a big waste of tax payers money,,Again! When they first detected a Helium leak before launch they should have canceled the flight. Seems like problem after problem with this thing.Maybe they should accept their losses and start over!
Why did NASA put humans on a spacecraft with known defects? Somebody needs to explain why they shouldn't get fired.
I'd rather get an UBER from SpaceX than trust that thing to come home in.
we all share the same idea
I searched for an article saying Starliner-1 had been cancelled and there isn't one. And after dumping a metric ton of shade, you mention at the end that oh, by the way, the landing date is the 26th, and you confirm there is NO talk of a "rescue." You have to work on that truth-in-advertising thing.
I'm really afraid Starliner may kill someone.
Nothing from Boeing and NASA is good anymore. Boeing has let their accountants run the company instead of the engineers and NASA has gotten too politicized. Both are terrible from a safety viewpoint
A show down for Boeing again. It was utterly irresponsible to launch the starliner with crews to the ISS with helium leakage. The starliner project has to be scrapped as it is full of unknown problems.
It certainly wouldn’t be Boeing and their Starliner. I can’t believe they sent a space capsule into orbit knowing it had faults and that’s not only Boeing that’s NASA as well..
You must not further risk human lives on the StarLemon! Scrap the program for the sake of safety.
I never heard of Starliner being cancelled. Why the clickbait headlines?
Thats Easy Boeing Shills dont like hearing how rubbish the equipment they produce is
Cheap ploy for clicks. Accuracy secondary
scam title, channel getting on the do not recommend to me list.
Thanh for cmt
@@techmap9 what are you thanking for. Are you a bot
Same here. for that and for constantly hearing "Starlinner" 🙃
I wouldn't like to risk flying back on Starliner. Why would I when I could fly back on Spacex Dragon?
With the parachute problems earlier , I would be very skeptical of landing if I were them also. Lets hope NASA doesn't crater this POS and kill two more astronauts. They had better not certify this just to save face . Welcome to the Swamp.
The title of this video is a lie, I hate this kind of ridiculous clickbait to get you to watch ... not much.
Thanks nearly watched the vid !
Having two vehicles to transport is a great plan, but by the time the Starliner is certified the ISS program will be over.
My first lesson in aviation was my Aerospace engineer father telling me to never fly a plane when the mechanic doesn’t want to go with me. In the space game, let’s see if the engineers want to fly on this space craft? Any takers?? This is so pathetic that it’s becoming comical, which is also very dangerous.
the real question is how is NASA's confidence in starliners ability to return the crew to earth? safest option would be to let starliner return unmanned, and return the crew on dragon.
There is no talk of the crew returning to Earth in anything but Starliner, so NASA must be confident.
Of course the safety first statement is a lie.
NASA and Boeing pride will put the astronauts back in starliner to return to earth. And there's a good chance they'll pull it of, but that doesn't mean safety was the first priority.
Safety first would mean bring the Starliner down empty without crashing.
The 2 astronauts could return later with a Crew Dragon.
Hate to see this happen to a once great company but as long as we pray to the bean counters and DEI/ESG "Investment" firms like Blackrock, Vangaurd, it is only going to get worse. Separating the skills of Engineers who must follow the REAL laws of physics, electronics, chemistry from the bogus bean counters and their made up rules is a guarantee for disaster. How many of us want to ride on something made by the lowest bidder who had to follow bean counter bottom line social engineering goals rather than true engineering rules and physical laws?
Something is wrong. if I were the families of the two astronauts I'd want a face-to-face meeting with NASA/Boeing officials to explain the situation. But given how much NASA has invested in Boeing's Starliner I doubt they will walk away from it.
Thanks for cmt
I'm going to bet that Sierra Nevada's Dream Chaser space plane is going to get the go- ahead to configure their ships for manned missions after a few unmanned cargo missions to the ISS. Once the Dream Chaser proves itself, Starliner will probably get the axe from NASA after all the delays and cost over-runs. If Dream Chaser is launched using a SpaceX Falcon booster instead of a ULA booster, then both the spacecraft and booster can be re-usable, bringing the costs down even further.
the "old boy" network will never be axed!!! TOO MUCH MONEY CHANGING HANDS!!!
The O-ring burn through was very small, happened all the time. The foam insulation striking the wing was a mere puff. After 14 crew deaths later: the leak was a very small leak, the smallest of all, we don't understand the cause. This is Boeing, what could possibly go wrong, right ?
It is the reason I always pray for them 😰😰😰
The SRB O-ring burn through had nothing to do with Boeing. It was a Morton-Thiokol system. The external tank was also not a Boeing product but was manufactured by Lockheed Martin. But hey, this is a propaganda channel so I suppose we should expect it in the comments too.
@@margarethorrall8621 I assumed all that was obvious but hey, the point was about NASA's history of down playing 'minor issues', now throw in to the mix the exemplary safety reputation of Boeing (not!) and here we are with another fine mess.
@@tma2001 NASA definitely has a checkered history and Boeing has certainly earned criticism but you focused on Boeing, which had nothing to do with either of the accidents you pointed to and you never even mentioned NASA. I can let it go, though because yes your over arching point that there have been avoidable mistakes made in the past is correct and will continue to be made. Space X has a very spotty record too and though they haven't killed anyone yet, space travel is hard and it's only a matter of time.
@@margarethorrall8621 jeez give people some credit who watch these kinds of videos that they have some understanding of the context and don't need everything spelled out for them /sigh.
Twice the money shouldn't get you twice the PROBLEMS...good grief..🤬
They should send the capsule back to earth without passengers. Then send up the SpaceX dragon capsule to rescue the passengers.
Starliner = junk, Elon Musk is NASA, they need to give him some respect.
Sorry, I don't list emotionless AI voiceovers.
This is completely outrageous. Boeings heyday has come and gone.
Boeing's glory days seem to be behind them, and their current issues are unacceptable. It's clear that significant changes are needed within the company to prioritize safety and quality once again.
Boeing used to be a company based around engineering now it’s a company based around profit over all else.
Yawn, more click bait. No new info here.
Ya ... such a pain ... had just subscribed to these guys a couple of days ago, & just now un-subbed ... who needs another click-bait channel?
Starliner should be set as cargo and iss rebooster and a couple capsules held on standby for dire cases it should ever need to fly crew.
It will land at White sands like a missle.
Cost plus contracts encourage incompetence.
absolutely
No, this will be a big mistake to return the astronauts on star liner.
It’s a warning ⛔️ but NASA will risk the astronauts lives just to look good.
Sounds like good news. Cancel Starliner. Cancel SLS. Cancel Boeing. Don't be swayed by the sunk cost fallacy. The question is always, "what's the best thing to do now?" Keeping going with a mistake because you have done so much or spent so much on it. That is throwing good money after bad or the sunk cost fallacy.
Yeah. This is the best way for all
Will NASA have a new supplier for SLS if Boeing's space division is disbanded? No, the SLS will be canceled, and NASA will use a Falcon Heavy or New Glenn rocket with an additional methane-powered stage. But then you will have to give Blue Origin pad 39B, NASA will not have the money to convert pad 39B for the Falcon Heavy.
@@techmap9 The best way for you is to go back to the stone age and start from the beginning. You have become an obviously mentally impotent nation.
@av_kovko: So what are you suggesting? Continue using dangerous, flawed spacecraft and rocket systems? Spend vast sums of money for little return? Dragon has cost less than half of Starliner and it's proved safe and reliable. Dreamchaser is well on it's way, Blue Origin is striding ahead. There are PLENTY of options!
Oh, and look at the launch costs. The Europa mission which needs to launch later this year, will cost $3 billion on the SLS versus $178 million on Falcon Heavy. That's assuming that SLS will fly. Tell me again how Boeing are better?
I'm not a SpaceX fanboy, but right now? They do seem to be several orbits ahead! I'm waiting to see the new Ariane launch too.
@av_kovko Musk will take care of it...He doesn't waste time on incidentals...companies should support Musk instead of trying to bring him down...🖖
Starleaner without toilet is ridiculous
I want to know why Star Liner is landing on land, but Dragon is required to land on the ocean. Dragon was designed to land on land.
As far as I know, Elon wants to do that
DOWN VOTE FOR CLICKBAIT!
Get SpaceX analysis team on board ro figure it out. Apparently there teams have more experience. Just do the best and right thing to do. Everybody wins 🏆 🙌.
I wouldn't trust my life to Starliner! I am even becoming more and more leary of Boeing quality on their aircraft and am looking at only older planes to fly on vs the newest or just delivered.
Boeing has lost my confidence in quality control.
Our father Boeing has died for 27 years
Why wasn’t this a cargo mission ?
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.... !!! 😮
You really should quit with the clickbait headlines. It undermines your credibility.
NASA should publicly ask the two astronauts if they are willing to sacrifice their lives, taking a chance in returning to earth on Starliner, giving it is a one way trip in a vehicle that is fraught with issues, and taking the word of Boeing engineers and administrators that everything will be okay.
Good luck with bringing those astronauts back safely. Whoever made the call to send them up after all the problems that caused the delays ought to be fired.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall in Boeing
Are you sure you want to be a fly on the Boeing wall. It may not be secured properly using the wrong bolts or wrong material and falls over while you are standing on it.
A dragon is about to launch anyway soon so why take a Chance with a troubled ship. Expedite the dragon mission and pick up the astronauts. Send the starliner home without crew and see if it works. I am quite sure Elon will not even charge them as he is going to space anyway.
It's not the technical issues but rather the mindset and culture of NASA's and Boiing's focus on the goal.
Hint, it's not spaceflight.
The leak rates going down. Could it have anything to do with your pressure is dropping cause theres less fuel thus less pressure. Come on Engineers. I wouldn't fly on the damn thing cause it's garbage.
"SCRUBLINER"
The bad news is that they found a fifth leak. The good news is that it is a very small leak. Oh, Lordy.
😝😝😝 no, we have many to discuss
I remember when Gerber had glass fragments in its baby food. An executive said"Well they are very small pieces. "
Boeing gets a 10 trillion dollar bailout from NASA....
I wouldn’t bet my life on anything Boeing or Nasa had a hand in.
sure
Sounds more like teething problems. Look at Starship. Getting it right takes time. Of course we are talking about people's lives here, and Dragon seems to be the way to go. NASA's idea of a backup system looks good on paper but obviously isn't panning out to well - and it's pricey. Compared to Space X's Falcon 9, the ULA rocket isn't reusable (just like the SLS, although the SRBs could be).
TO CANCEL...EVEN I UNDERSTAD IS NOT CANCEL..
I thought capitalism dictated that the contract should go to the company that provided the best product for the least money. Boeing is doing less for more money, it's time to cut our losses and go for the best product.
This program was not designed to make a safe capsule. It was designed to maximize Boeing profit. The Artimis project, by law continued projects awarded to Boeing and Lockheed. NASA's hands were tied.
With cost plus contracts which favor using the most expensive components.
Lets take the choice of helium as a pressurizing agent. Musk is perfectly happy with nitrogen. But helium is much more expensive. And it is moredifficult to store.(And it is a difficult to replace material.) All these problems mean a larger profit for using it over nitrogen.
Dont blame NASA. Blame Congressional lobbyists.
😂 haha. Yes, pray for their safe return. This spacecraft needs all the prayers, it can get!
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At least the door stayed on during accent, wonder how much fake titanium made it into starliner.
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Oh the leaks have mysteriously lessened…. Hmm, that rarely occurs with leaks, so must be due to something. Like the freezing temps of space and the question would be does the service module get warmed up once back in flight? Well, the TestFlight accomplished it’s goal of being a TestFlight and the issues found.
In 2021, they also found a leak, do you know that?
@@techmap9 No I didn’t, but I do and did question the launch, after the scrub, with a known deficiency. Isn’t something one does in aviation as they had time to address other than a quick retorque of a flange.
The leaks have stopped....Cause the tanks are empty... I would don a parachute, lightly bump the hatch as it will easily fall off, take my chances and JUMP.
I wander if Sunny or Butch forced NASAs hand by saying I am not getting back into that thing I value my life?
HELL FOR 5.2 BILLION THEY COULD HAVE BROUGHT ONE OF THE SHUTTLES OUT OF RETIREMENT!
Billions of dollars spent...AND WE ARE ASKED TP PRAY FOR THE ASTRONAUTS ???? I thought the reason you spent billions was so NO ONE HAS TO PRAY FOR ANYONE !!!
"Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies..." -Captain Quint
How much have they spent? How soon until a missing bolt causes a door to fall off? End this useless program. End NASA funding
Spoken like someone who has no idea what NASA does. Space exploration is just a tiny piece of what NASA mission is. NASAs running budget since October 1958 is around $700 billion. We have banks more than that in one check. NASA cost each of us pennies a day. That has given us most of the electronic technology we have today . That technology has saved and or extended millions of lives around the world. Without NASA a trip to the hospital or doctors office would be much the same as it was in 1958, a wood stick in our mouth and a rubber covered finger up the dark side of our flesh moon. NASA also has a return on the money it spends ,generating $71 billion dollars each year for the economy which generates taxes. It also supports 340,000 jobs nationwide. For news and Republicans trying to cut NASAd budget didn't tell you that did they? NASAs main mission since day one is to study the Earth and it's environment to help mankind.
Passing references were made during the Teleconference to the Flight Rules. I am still unclear on the issue of the required post-undock performance of Starliner that would allow a safe Deorbit burn, Service Module jettison and Entry. I am unclear on the capability of Starliner to re-dock with the ISS if anything is off-nominal prior to the deorbit burn. I am therefore unclear on too many points to be comfortable with a Crewed Starliner Return. Some of this lack of discomfort would be dispelled if I could hear more detailed conversation on what the Flight Rules establish. They should be published in relevant sections for everyone to read before Starliner Crewed Undocking. As it stands now, I do not support a Crewed Starliner Return.
Well, we, collectively don't get a vote on the matter. So let's pray that the crew returns safely.
@@pakviroti3616 . There is not a moment that Butch and Suni are not uppermost in my thoughts. That is part of what it means to have Friends in Orbit, or anywhere else where they might be in harm's way. I believe in them. and I always hope for the best.
During the tour a few days ago they showed up close of the technology. The control panel and other components
Am I the only person that thought it looked primitive like something from the 60s. For the amount of money we have put into this it just looks like no upgrade
Compare pic of Space X vehicle and this one is troubling.
Boing is more interested in bonuse for the direction than security of flights
they found themselves in the laundry rather than in space, too
@@techmap9 Will see how well the landing will happen
The Helium leaks sound manageable but certainly not something to be allowed to be troublesome at this point of time. This level of leakage is something proper engineering should have found long ago. One leak is an annoyance, so many is a bad design flaw. The real flaw of Starliner is it is so locked into the past, being one use technology. That is a unacceptable going forward. This is a political jobs subsidy program, not a proper space program to be proud of.
Your concerns are valid. Helium leaks should indeed be managed better, and frequent leaks suggest deeper design issues. Starliner being a one-use technology is a step back compared to reusable spacecraft like SpaceX's Dragon. The political aspects of the program can also detract from the goal of a sustainable and forward-looking space program. Addressing these issues is crucial for future success.
Who built the valves and what type of materials were used. I guarantee that the valves rust in a salt air environment. It didn’t dawn on them to test the valves under those conditions. If I were Boeing, I would be heading to Grainger to swap-out the valves with ones made out of 316 Stainless Steal. Sorry but allowing people to fly on a craft that is failing like this is incredibly incomprehensible and downright dangerous. It’s risk that can be avoided but NASA rather be associated with negligence and total disregard to human safety. NASA needs new management in a hurry.
lol of coz the leak rate is going down!!!!! as it leaks pressure in the tank goes down so will push less on the leak!
when the tank reaches zero level all leaks will stop!!!
@@shibbolethsoftware827 Problem solved!
please fill in the blank.............if it's Boeing.....________________
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ボーイングは、いろいろと問題ありすぎ！NASAや政府も契約解除すべき！！！
Boeing's leadership has to go. The entire upper level.
Boeing's leadership needs accountability for their repeated failures. A complete overhaul at the upper levels might be necessary to prioritize safety and quality over profits. Ensuring rigorous engineering standards and a culture of accountability is essential for the company's future and the safety of those who rely on their technology.
Star Lener?? AI can't read apparently.
With NASA cost-plus contracts, Boeing has learned to succeed and ***profit*** by failing.
So bad
Dude, get your facts straight. It is not canceled.
I hope they make it back.🙏🙏🙏🙏
all of us hope like that
No way I would step foot in that Boeing mess. I would wait for Dragon to take me home.
Poor astronauts
Didnt hear anything about cancelling starliner program though.Clickbait!!!and lies,for a headline.
BTW have they broadcast spacex nasa communication when dragon has gone up,also?
All problem free?
No balance here im afraid.Aint batting for boeing,would dare board a 737 max,but commentary must be fair,and balanced.
Not watching this channel again.
Clickbait...