How to Aim in Bowling: 3-Point Targeting (Kegel Training Centre)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @knep24
    @knep24 Год назад +49

    I watched this video two days ago, had league tonight, and implemented this system. I shot my first 700. Thank you so much for this video.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +4

      No worries, I'm happy it helped!!!

    • @knep24
      @knep24 Год назад +6

      @@GarrettWongBowling I was skeptical when you showed it helped revs and impact angle, but holy shit did it help. My ball was going through the pins better than ever.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +4

      @koreyknepper5872 I found that it helps a lot with making adjustments so my overall ball motion improved a lot

    • @williambrownsjr.7854
      @williambrownsjr.7854 11 месяцев назад +3

      I tried it today for the first time during my Sunday quarters league and shot my best 5 game series ever with a 763 for my first three games with three different balls. My goodness, it's amazing how this system actually works

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@williambrownsjr.7854 I'm glad it worked so well for you!

  • @tonysanta3497
    @tonysanta3497 Год назад +13

    I took a lesson when Coach Slowinski was working with Kegel and somehow our conversation turned into a presentation about quiet eye. This is explained in way better detail. This is a great guide I use till this day.

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 Год назад +2

      Absolutely.
      Along with Mo Pinel, Mark Baker, Mike Jasneau, and Mike Shady, Joe Slowinski is a certified GENIUS in this sport, without a doubt.
      I'd go so far to say that Slowinski is the GOAT of bowling coaches.

  • @commonsensecatholics
    @commonsensecatholics Год назад +5

    thank you..not one person has mentioned this to met yet. Started bowling 5 months ago

  • @troyb9985
    @troyb9985 11 месяцев назад +4

    After watching and doing some math I have come to a simple solution for finding your line. ((Feet position - 6 + breakpoint) / 2)) = target at arrows
    When I start at league I stand on 25. ((25 - 6 + 12) /2) = 16
    I normally aim at 3rd arrow and adjust accordingly on ball motion and lane conditions. So after watching this it definitely checks out. This works with all other steeper angles I throw as well. This solution works in tandem with 2-1 moves after your shot. VERY COOL! I have only bowled on ths, would be interesting to see how this fairs on different patterns.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  11 месяцев назад

      Oh that's awesome, I've never thought about doing it that way!

  • @mattlivetv9246
    @mattlivetv9246 Год назад +11

    I did this for the first time yesterday and shot my first 300.

  • @vincentamaya7983
    @vincentamaya7983 Год назад +5

    This video had a profound impact on my game. Most impactful was the targeting process with quiet eye. Thank you for posting this video!

  • @mitchellportee150
    @mitchellportee150 3 месяца назад +1

    This is what I've been missing !!!! Thank you for explaining this in a way even I could understand it ❤

  • @theoutlawtube
    @theoutlawtube Год назад +3

    I will try to practice this tomorrow. Never thought about trying this. Makes sense

  • @RewindCountry
    @RewindCountry Месяц назад +1

    Thank you. This is a very detailed instruction of the concept of targeting. Any bowler who is willing to learn the concepts and practice them should see a marked difference in their ability to be more consistent not only striking but making a spare.
    To those complaining about it not being "complete" or "neglecting information", this is a general system that is based on data and science. It's not magic and it's not complete without your own decision about playing a line. As shown in the PBA example bowlers can make decisions based on their rev rate and speed to decide about angle of play. The target(s) are going to be the same down lane. How you get there can be completely different, including any line of sight target that may be off the lane instead of on a pin. The question is not why the target is out of line with the pin(s) but are you able to accurately use that target or do you need to adjust your angle of play? The targets can also change as the conditions change so you need to make decisions about your next shot with the information you have after every shot.

  • @bulneralbert6692
    @bulneralbert6692 Год назад +3

    I learn something today by watching this video, can't wait to go and practice...

  • @hermanecheverri9849
    @hermanecheverri9849 Месяц назад +1

    Great video👏🙏

  • @richprince2818
    @richprince2818 Год назад +3

    Garrett, that would be awesome to get a video on estimating the lane pattern length. BTW, thanks for the rapid response to my question. Looking forward to additional information for improving my game.

  • @richardsimonson5164
    @richardsimonson5164 Год назад +1

    Sweet now it’s time to go and add this to my game thanks

  • @chasbari
    @chasbari Год назад +1

    Thank you! Such a clear presentation of the concepts here.

  • @rickwaas8276
    @rickwaas8276 Год назад +2

    I just watched this video and can't wait to try it out at Monday night's league.

  • @jakethehud
    @jakethehud Год назад +1

    This is the clearest and most understanding explanation of the 3 point targeting that I've seen. Others, I wasn't quite sure how it all came together, but you cleared it up. I also was a little confused, at first, when you talked about the slide foot on board 6 to the left of your target, when it was said that it is 7 boards from the centre of your chest to your shoulder. I am getting back to bowling, after 30 years, and I'm sure this will be a tremendous help to my game.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад

      If you have any questions feel free to let me know!

    • @jakethehud
      @jakethehud Год назад +1

      @@GarrettWongBowlingWill do. Thanks.

  • @10pinsneaker75
    @10pinsneaker75 Год назад +1

    The light bulb is lit! Thank you!

  • @CheapButNotEasy
    @CheapButNotEasy 5 месяцев назад +4

    The rule of 31 isn't general enough for patterns like cheetah or shark or to achieve optimal entry angles. Breakpoints which give a 6 degree entry angle start at the gutter at 45 feet, roughly moving 1 board left for every extra foot down the lane. Alignment which comes off the pattern at a corner where the oil ratio is greatest while generating optimal entry requires downlane targeting which is either closer to the foul line or to the right of the 10pin
    Using the reflections of the pins on the lanes helps considerably. That does require knowing your eye height and then determining the distance down the lane each part of the 3-6-10 pin reflection hits. This is obviously much more intricate than rule of 31, but is also a more accurate way to determine appropriate launch angle and translating total hook into a release point.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  3 месяца назад

      That is a great point, that you for commenting that!

  • @marqjessie2746
    @marqjessie2746 Год назад +1

    Good video, thanks for posting !

  • @TLane
    @TLane 9 месяцев назад +1

    Does PL 31 also work for long patterns, 45 or 47 feet, for example? Thanks!

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  9 месяцев назад +1

      Hi! Theoretically it should as typically on patterns that long, you do not want to give away the pocket that much so your line would almost be directly at the headpin!

  • @TheeNickyT
    @TheeNickyT Год назад +4

    I’ve learned of this practice in the past, and love the concept. I have never understood though, when shifting from the baseline, does the focal point change? I thought the point of the 3 point target was to trace a straight line from lay down, through visual target, through the end of the pattern (exit point) to focal point… but if we don’t move the focal point to the right as we shift left, then we have a fragmented/angled tracer line that will go from lay down to visual target and through exit point, then angle to the focal point we began with - this seems pointless at this point. Is there a formula for calculating the correct change in visual target, focal point, lay down? Can you shed light on this?

    • @nathanielfuentes5294
      @nathanielfuentes5294 Год назад

      I was thinking the same thing the entire time I watched this.
      If I play far left, my breakpoint might be the 4 board, but my focal point would be on the adjacent lane.

    • @williamsage4822
      @williamsage4822 11 месяцев назад

      @@nathanielfuentes5294 when I went thru a kegel training road show they said that based on angles your focal point could be on the next lane. or in the gutter.

    • @nathanielfuentes5294
      @nathanielfuentes5294 11 месяцев назад

      @@williamsage4822 thanks for clarifying. Wish these videos would state that.

  • @nathanielfuentes5294
    @nathanielfuentes5294 Год назад +5

    This targeting system seems to seriously ignore that the angle seen at the approach is different than the angle seen at the foul line. AND, that the board exiting the pattern should not be your target at the pins unless you’re playing a VERY straight line. Moving left for a right hander will shift that angle substantially and move the focal point into the adjacent lane.

  • @georgemadden7268
    @georgemadden7268 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice system , your release has to be the same every time for this to be effective. I’m working on that now . I use to bowl 175 -215 and my body ,knees , shoulder and hand would be on fire . 20 mph was fun while bowling but days after body just hurts .
    I dialed it down and this system would be a help to focusing . Bowling 17 mph feels weird but my body / knee / shoulder doesn’t hurt as bad . My ball still slides into the pins but not as bad . Scores are lower but I’ll get it back

  • @mgoblue2
    @mgoblue2 Месяц назад +1

    How,do you find out what the pattern is

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Месяц назад

      Typically they will have a information sheet printed for each tournament. Otherwise ask the staff and they should have one!

  • @52weekproject
    @52weekproject 5 месяцев назад

    Is there a method for finding that starting point with my feet? I am a lefty bowling on a 42ft scorpion pattern so I understand I want the break point to be around 11 and I typically look at the dots before the arrows during my approach. I feel like I have raw talent with bowling and have been bowling most of my life but in tournaments I need to learn better targeting and feel confident in where I’m standing and looking to give myself the best chance to succeed. Thank you for any info you can give!!

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  3 месяца назад

      Would you be able to provide a little bit more information on your game for me (i.e., rev rate, tilt, equipment, etc.)?

  • @rudyruiz9521
    @rudyruiz9521 9 месяцев назад +1

    Done this for a long time and I'm still horrible. The drift information may help a lot. Can't wait to try that. I didn't ever consider the drift amount may differ.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  9 месяцев назад

      It helps a lot to consider drift because it significantly impacts where you are laying the ball down!

  • @ryanballard2313
    @ryanballard2313 Год назад +1

    If I know where my exit point and focal point is..how do I find my release point?

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад

      That's dependent on where you want to play the pattern in the front part of the lane. The average person lets go of the ball 6 boards away from their ankle so you need to find out how many boards you drift. Personally, I am a right handed bowler and I drift 2 boards left. What this means is that if I want to play board 10 as my laydown point I subtract 6 board plus an additional 2 boards. Therefore I would stand on board 2 to start.

  • @jameskidd6875
    @jameskidd6875 8 месяцев назад +1

    At 11:11 mark of video: slide point is 7 or 6 boards left of exit point? As a low to medium rev "tweener" my exit point on THS is typically the 7-board or 8-board (10 or 11 board at the arrows), and in doing so my left big toe is at the 20-board on the approach. How is that?

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  15 дней назад

      Great observation! It sounds like you have a solid understanding of your positioning. The 7 or 8 board exit point makes sense for a tweener like you, especially since you’re targeting those angles at the arrows. Having your left big toe at the 20 board on the approach gives you a strong setup to help maintain consistency. Everyone's style varies, so it’s all about what feels comfortable and effective for you. Keep experimenting to see what works best!

  • @njavrg.9100
    @njavrg.9100 Год назад +1

    I must say this was amazing to watch. If more of this content comes out that’ll teach me something, I’ll subscribe no problem

  • @rlakamine1
    @rlakamine1 8 месяцев назад

    How do you determine the pattern length if the alley wont tell you? Is there a rule of thumb for looking at when the ball breaks versus the pin reflections on the lane, or something?

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  7 месяцев назад

      If you see the range finders down lane, the two closest to you start at 34 feet and end at 37 feet while the two further from you start at 40 feet and stop at 43 feet. Typically you want to throw a ball slow enough that you can see where it changes directions in respect to those markers and make an estimate based on that!

    • @t.hargrove3843
      @t.hargrove3843 6 месяцев назад

      What if the lanes are older and don't have the range finders on them? Any other way to tell the pattern length?

  • @jonathanthomas8574
    @jonathanthomas8574 Год назад +1

    Thank you

  • @teeken8850
    @teeken8850 5 месяцев назад +4

    be nice if my lanes had range finder marks..

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  3 месяца назад

      That does make it a bit more tough... are there any other landmarks on the lane or sides that you can use?

    • @burgettboys123
      @burgettboys123 3 месяца назад

      Same.

  • @JoeFulk56
    @JoeFulk56 Год назад

    I would love to get spec tested. Can It happen?

  • @daflyinhawaiian2
    @daflyinhawaiian2 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have been bowling since 1968 and I am very coachable, I am always willing to listen and try anything. However I am at a total loss and everything went over my head when you started on the chart explanation. However I got the idea of the 3 point targeting system and will try it out in tomorrow's Travel League. I am a lefty currently a 200+ average in leagues.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  11 месяцев назад

      Sounds good! If you have any questions let me know!

  • @julijonso
    @julijonso 11 месяцев назад

    How do you apply this to spares?

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  11 месяцев назад

      It's use in the same way, you look at the target downlane (the pin) and draw a line back through the visual target to where you are standing and that is where you should throw the ball to!

  • @richprince2818
    @richprince2818 Год назад

    Your presentation is awesome. I do have a question though. Early on in your video regarding the "PL-31". I seem to find house staff where ever I go, that do not know, so they say, what the lane pattern length is. In a fundamental level, that shunts the PL-31 formula. This formula is premised on "knowing" what the pattern lane is and there be my problem. It does not help a bowler if they are given inaccurate information or nothing at all. I do not understand why select individuals find that the "PL" is the golden nugget that only a few individual get to know and everyone else has to struggle with their bowling and scores.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +3

      There are a few ways to get a rough estimate of the length of the oil pattern during warmups. Let me know if you would like me to make a video on that!

    • @kevingreenleaf9978
      @kevingreenleaf9978 Год назад

      I would@@GarrettWongBowling

  • @electronsauce
    @electronsauce Год назад +2

    So in this example you're aiming at the 9th board at the arrows and at the focal point with the goal of hitting the 9th board at the point where the pattern breaks.
    How do you go about adjusting when moving inside? The target at the arrows has to change. How do you calculate that? Like the Tommy Jones vs Chris Barnes example

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +3

      How it was explained to me is that you choose your target downlane (e.g., the 6 pin) and you align your body according to that (you can stand wherever you want). Then draw a straight line back from that pin to where you are standing. Wherever that line crosses at your visual target (e.g., if you draw the straight line back from the pin to where you are standing and it crosses over 3rd arrow) is what you should be looking at. Hope this helps!

    • @happyguycmb2883
      @happyguycmb2883 Год назад

      But how does drawing that line back from the pin to the visual target help since hitting that exact spot produces very different contacts at the pins depending on the speed of the shot and hand position?
      Is the focal point supposed to help you get the ball to the break point where the margin of error for a strike is greater?
      If that's not right, what IS the purpose of the focal point?
      Would be great to understand this, since apparently it's helped a lot of people commenting here.@@GarrettWongBowling

    • @jdizzlef83
      @jdizzlef83 Год назад +4

      ​@happyguycmb2883 I think it's a general targeting method. The dynamics of the individual bowler will influence the end result (i.e. speed, rotation, tilt, etc). On a fresh shot, these techniques should work quite well. In regards to transition/changing lane conditions, that's a higher level form of bowler. Common understanding is that amateur bowlers look for hook from left to right, while pros watch for hook from front to back. In other words, non-pros target a board downlane where the ball should hook, while pros target their break point based on how far the ball travels before it makes a move. As lanes change and the breakpoint moves, it's rather incumbent on the bowler (pro or non-pro) to understand where their target has moved to and what physical changes are needed in order to maximize strike potential. Bowlers have a set routine, shot, and trajectory/motion based on how they throw. Based on your own attributes, try using this targeting method to fit your game, and as conditions change during your session, experiment with what targeting changes based on your style of play would be necessary to stay consistent at the pocket. Again, this is all just my opinion.

  • @jameskidd6875
    @jameskidd6875 8 месяцев назад +1

    Playing the right line, creating more room to get to the pocket is fine ... but striking with carry can be a whole different story. On most house patterns I can hit the pocket with as much as six boards of area, seemingly with my eyes closed but throwing a strike can sometimes be a never ending search via ball selection, ball speed, hand position, etc. ... soft 10, ringing 10, light pocket 7, light pocket 7-10, high flush 7 or 9, and of course everybody's favorite: the stone flush 8-pin. "Anybody can average 230 on a THS." I call BS. Not every house has the same idea of what a house is: pattern shape, pattern length, oil brand and viscosity, etc.

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  15 дней назад

      You make a great point! While finding the right line can give you room to hit the pocket, converting that into consistent strikes is a whole different challenge. It’s frustrating when you’re hitting the pocket but still leaving corners or ringing tens. Every house pattern is unique, and factors like oil brand and viscosity can really impact how the ball behaves. It’s definitely not just about averaging 230; it’s about understanding the nuances of each lane. Thanks for sharing your insights-it's a reminder that bowling is as much about strategy as it is about execution!

  • @michaelrhoads6349
    @michaelrhoads6349 Год назад +1

    I love the tips except when I stared at the red dot it eventually split & I seen 2 red dots & 2 black circles

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад

      🤣

    • @michaelrhoads6349
      @michaelrhoads6349 Год назад

      I stared at the pins instead of the arrows last time out. It felt weird, but it wasn't hard to get used to. It did improve my location consistency & I didn't see multiple pins as I did the red dot. Looking forward at implementing this in a tournament on a 35ft Cheetah oil pattern. Any tips for this pattern besides aim for 4?

  • @summpwner7837
    @summpwner7837 Год назад +3

    If I want my breakpoint at 9 , why would I want to look at the 9 at the arrows? Usually to get to 9 downlane on THS, my visual target is at 12-13 at the arrows

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +2

      You don't have to look at 9 but I see where you are coming from based on the explanation in this video! How it was explained to me is that you choose your target downlane (e.g., the 6 pin) and you align your body according to that (you can stand wherever you want). Then draw a straight line back from that pin to where you are standing. Wherever that line crosses at your visual target (e.g., if you draw the straight line back from the pin to where you are standing and it crosses over 3rd arrow) is what you should be looking at. Hope this helps!

  • @razorbear4222
    @razorbear4222 Год назад +8

    Me when I go to a bowlero and there’s 30 feet of oil tryna hit -1

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +1

      AHAHAHAHAH ☠️☠️☠️☠️

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 Год назад +1

      Ehh, just loft the left cap and aim for the right cap. works every time lol

  • @piperpipe201
    @piperpipe201 Год назад +1

    ...windows 7?

  • @claudiabarry6586
    @claudiabarry6586 Год назад +1

    The only problem is our center doesn’t let you know how long the pattern is. Old oil machine , it seems to change all the time

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  Год назад +3

      You can try to see in warmups by throwing a few balls really slowly down the lane in the three different zones to see how far down the lane they pickup! This might give you a good enough ball park to work with as you start!

    • @claudiabarry6586
      @claudiabarry6586 Год назад

      @@GarrettWongBowling I’ll try

  • @tunamangelo
    @tunamangelo 7 месяцев назад +1

    according to this video I would say I’m standing way left of where I need to be

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  7 месяцев назад

      The angle is probably a bit too steep for what you want to play!

  • @wenchfisterx
    @wenchfisterx 7 месяцев назад +1

    When I stare at the red dot it splits into two and the black circle splits I to two and spreads apart lol....

  • @zaxophne
    @zaxophne 11 месяцев назад +1

    Please upgrade your computer. Windows 7 has many security flaws and isn't being patched anymore.

  • @baaadddmannn
    @baaadddmannn 2 месяца назад +1

    PBA bowlers have 25 second clock they don't have 20 seconds to focus.........so much for this system , what do pros use......

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  21 день назад

      Once you have your targets set up, it takes less than 25 seconds to implement this system

  • @631strongislandkid
    @631strongislandkid Месяц назад +1

    Im gonna stick to quantum theory

  • @pretty_flaco
    @pretty_flaco 3 месяца назад +1

    i’m just trying to be decent at birthday parties… this might be a bit too advanced for me

  • @alansabin7487
    @alansabin7487 11 месяцев назад +1

    average is subjective

  • @Harold-l3i
    @Harold-l3i 7 месяцев назад +1

    If you want to lose weight walk for 120 minutes a day and watch what you eat, and drink water after you workout. Also, when you get tired of walking try slow running, it also works. Don't run fast it doesn't work. Put time in your workouts, but workout at a pace you can workout everyday. Takes time, but it's worth it. Lost 144 pounds at a rate of 3 pounds a week. Took 48 weeks to go to 144 pounds from 288 pounds. Good Luck. Now get to it.

  • @bigdonjr37
    @bigdonjr37 Год назад +2

    None of this matter if you can't come out the ball the same way consistently

  • @keithm1961
    @keithm1961 11 месяцев назад +1

    how do you determine the pattern length?

    • @GarrettWongBowling
      @GarrettWongBowling  10 месяцев назад

      Usually through the oil pattern information sheets or ask your local proprietor!